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November 20, 2023, 10:44:29 AM
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There is an opinion that the greatest dependence on gambling is formed at the moment of a big win. The player understands that money can be earned LIKE THIS. This is a fairly common opinion.

But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.

What do you think about it?

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November 20, 2023, 10:50:28 AM
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When I was addicted, if I win I continue to gamble, if I lose, I still continue to gamble. Why? Because I want to earn money. That is the cause of the irresponsible gambling.

I was not also having gambling budget which was another mistake.

One of the worst time is the time of losses, you will continue to deposit into your gambling account and continue to lose. It even happen that some people will not have any money left and start to borrow money which is a very bad idea.

Gambling budget solves this. Just 5% of weekly income is enough for gambling.

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November 20, 2023, 11:44:02 AM
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But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.

What do you think about it?

Evidently yes. Gamblers lose control they start to lose in money because they want to get it back along with thinking earning potential. Having a desire to win more and recover loss at the same time gives the gambler confusion on what’s the real goal on gambling and that is having fun.

The problem is gambling games is designed to be that way. They allow player to win at some point then later on recover it all by continuous loss while player keep increasing bets to intensify more losses.

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November 20, 2023, 11:45:58 AM
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It is a normal if there are thoughts from gamblers who want to continue gambling whatever the results they have experienced. They just want to continue gambling because they have found joy in gambling. But they have to be careful because if they have the desire to continue gambling even though they have won, that means greed has come to them, and they have to be able to control themselves so they don't follow their desires. But if they have lost and want to recover their losses, it is also because of their desire not to be able to accept their defeat. Everything can trigger a gambling addiction, and usually, gamblers do not admit this and think that they can still control themselves well while gambling.

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November 20, 2023, 11:47:34 AM
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Profit is what makes so many gamblers run at loss because they think that gambling is a means of making profit. This makes them to keep on playing even when they are winning or losing. When they are losing, they think that it is time for them to win more due to their greed and wjen they are losing, they will still continue playing to win back what they have lost.

Gambling is based on luck and that is why one must accept losses and gamble responsible to avoid becoming an addict. Only gamble with the amount that you can afford to lose and also have a time limit for your gambling activities, to prevent you from much loss.

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November 20, 2023, 11:48:48 AM
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Winning or losing are two events that can make gambler lose control when gambling.
But it is bigger and it often happens that gambler loses control if they experience loss like you said, they lose certain amount of money and their emotional feelings increase so they cannot accept the loss until they try to recover it.
In conditions like this, gambler forgets the risk of forgetting limits and they are not aware that emotions have controlled them to continue fighting for victory in order to get back the amount of money they have lost.

There are quite lot of cases like this that have happened and been experienced by gamblers everywhere, in fact most of them even worse, have actually experienced financial ruin and all the wealth they had was lost in gambling.
It is very sad to hear that gambler has experienced ruin or bankruptcy just because of gambling, but all of this has consequences from the risks of gambling and they have to accept it.

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We have all experienced a loss of control when it comes to gambling. Perhaps in my experience, this has happened several times and could happen again. It only happens when you forget to be responsible for the decisions you make. The biggest reason I see is the desire to win because we all know that money is involved. Sometimes, I think fate might favor me now to win because I've had a series of losses in the past. But if we continue trying to recover, the losses may only increase. While you may not be able to control the urge to gamble, at least you should be able to control your limits, especially when it comes to the amount of money you can afford to lose.

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November 20, 2023, 11:53:30 AM
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There is an opinion that the greatest dependence on gambling is formed at the moment of a big win. The player understands that money can be earned LIKE THIS. This is a fairly common opinion.

But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.

What do you think about it?
It cannot be denied that when we experience a loss there will be an urge to bet bigger to cover the previous loss if we win the next bet. But sometimes this works and sometimes this actually makes us experience more losses. But that's only sometimes. Well sometimes I also lose control in this matter. But because it's for fun so sometimes I don't care. Because I only use limited funds. So I can still meet my living needs and can still save and invest. But there are times when I get a big win then I become more greedy and want more so I make a bigger bet. But after I thought about it, it turned out that I always lost control when I was having some problems in my life. So I try to forget it with this.

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November 20, 2023, 12:03:27 PM
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We have all experienced a loss of control when it comes to gambling. Perhaps in my experience, this has happened several times and could happen again. It only happens when you forget to be responsible for the decisions you make. The biggest reason I see is the desire to win because we all know that money is involved. Sometimes, I think fate might favor me now to win because I've had a series of losses in the past. But if we continue trying to recover, the losses may only increase. While you may not be able to control the urge to gamble, at least you should be able to control your limits, especially when it comes to the amount of money you can afford to lose.
This is the most important thing in gambling, to use what you can afford to lose to gamble. Before we use any money for gambling, we should make sure it will not affect us in any way at all especially financially. We can be lucky and win big but if we do not win big, the losses should be bearable in a way we are not going to think about it at all. The reason some people are not able to control their losses and they continue to gamble more and lose more is just because money is involved as you said but it is not only because of that, it is also becuase they do not think about the consequences until they lost so much.

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November 20, 2023, 12:36:47 PM
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I agree. Both ways actually. It will depend on the gambler. If the person is greedy then he goes back and forth even though he already received a multi-win.
Chasing losses though might be a big factor for those who are addicted to gambling. Simply because most gamblers lose more and there's only a little window for one to win.
Many of us are in the same boat, we just want that money back that was taken from us. This kind of perspective could lead to more losses which means a gambler will not stop unless he gets that one jackpot that would bring him back to whatever the amount that was taken from him.
It's easier to remember the losses than the winnings. We don't even need that spreadsheet to calculate all because it's all in our brain and it's one of the reasons why a gambler cannot just stop. Revenge.

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November 20, 2023, 12:43:38 PM
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There is an opinion that the greatest dependence on gambling is formed at the moment of a big win. The player understands that money can be earned LIKE THIS. This is a fairly common opinion.

But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.

What do you think about it?
oh yeah, it easier for a gambler to quit for the day after a big win to when he's losing in his game. The tendency to chase the losses is triggered by the idea of recovery back to previous financial state, and in that condition anxiety steps in affecting your gambling decisions leading to blunders that originates extra losses.

Losing can be very painful and disappointing equally when you claim to play for fun too, it is natural in human as an innate nature to disgust losing, and when we care too more about our losses we are moved to beat the loss and the chances are that we tend to lose more in such circumstance than we do recover. At that stage admittance by accepting the day as your losing day is the better option instead of chasing the losses.

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November 20, 2023, 12:54:29 PM
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But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.

I'll say both and this is because we have different type of individuals who are gamblers and they have different ways of thinking therefore we can't use one way of thinking to judge everybody and come to a conclusion. Some gamblers gets their biggest dependence moment in gambling when they win big as they want to continue gambling so they can win more while other individual gets theirs when they lose as they keep playing with the hope that they'll win one of their next games.

Neither way of thinking is good because both habits can lead to big losses that can make any gambler to lose more. As gamblers we shouldn't be greedy and we shouldn't practice revenge gambling. Picking one I'll say we have more gamblers that believe they can win after losing then those that keep playing after they win. Individually I'll be smart and take a break when I win or lose therefore I'm not dependent on continue gambling.

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November 20, 2023, 12:56:04 PM
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OP a bit too wordy so let's keep the arguments simple.
- gambling addiction could come from the thought that it's easy money so you keep coming back
- gambling addiction could come from chasing losses

It could be a mix of both. Some people just cannot stop because they just love the thrill that gambling gives so they continue to play regardless if they are winning or losing.

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November 20, 2023, 01:03:17 PM
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There is an opinion that the greatest dependence on gambling is formed at the moment of a big win. The player understands that money can be earned LIKE THIS. This is a fairly common opinion.

But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.

What do you think about it?

Loss of control occurs due to losing a lot of money. He tried to continue making deposits and continue playing so that his losses could be returned. Usually those who chase losses are people who have already had a big win, they keep playing and try to get it back.

I think all gamblers have experienced this, they get angry, emotional and lose control. Usually they will realize when the money they have is gone and they can only regret their actions. But unfortunately, even though we have experienced something like this, sometimes we repeat it once or twice. Controlling emotions is difficult

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November 20, 2023, 01:06:53 PM
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It depends on the gambler...

Some loses control right after they see their friend cashing out big amount of money, they lose their sense of responsibility and they want to try the method of their friend, they forget instantly how it's very important to abide by your own limits and gambling strategy.  

Some losses control after they lost just like you said, it's because they aren't prepared to lose that money, such people don't understand the word gambling, they are new and decide to gamble just because they believe it's that easy, so they start chasing their losses hoping to recover it back at least.

Some losses control after they win, this is very common to few numbers of people that I know, they get very happy and they build full confidence in gambling, thinking that everyday will be the same, it's even possible that they will get reckless with gambling after the win, some set goal and limit amount they can afford to lose but wait till they win a round, they will start increasing the amount, they will do the calculation in their head that if they have risked a higher amount in the first place they would have made bigger money.

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November 20, 2023, 01:15:31 PM
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When the first time I tasted the online casino and won I remembered that even though my winnings were not huge it made me think that I could earn that much money in just a short period rather than working 8 hours if I was at the office. If I continued to play and win I would have a lot of free time for my family as I could win it in just 2 hours. With this kind of mindset, you'll start to lose control because if you can't win that specific amount you'll then play more until you reach it and it's worse that you'll lose huge.
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November 20, 2023, 01:22:38 PM
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There is an opinion that the greatest dependence on gambling is formed at the moment of a big win. The player understands that money can be earned LIKE THIS. This is a fairly common opinion.

But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.

What do you think about it?
I tend to agree more with your first paragraph because if you take a survey among gamblers, you will realise that many people got lured into gambler by winning they had or that of others. People follow results that is why you can easily convince a person to join gambling with evidence of your winning than stories of losses. It is actually stories of loses that discourages people from gambling.  I don't know how gambling is designed but many people easily win in their early days in gambling and that is how they got stocked in it.


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November 20, 2023, 01:39:29 PM
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Both factors affect gamblers. Because winning makes some players feel in control of the game and staying in control is always interesting. Hence, they won't stop easily, even when the wins stop flowing. At the moment of losses, since they've been winning, they'll think of being lucky and that more wins would follow. Until nothing else is left to play. They've never been a time when a gambler kept winning without losing. So, the player will definitely face the both factors in one day. While gambling. Therefore, no need of picking the side that actually makes a player to lose control. Win or lose wash each other's hands in gambling. They appear accordingly, unplanned and unexpected. Their duty is to destabilize the player in ways they can't comprehend. Unless in card games where the winner is expected to continue playing, the right thing to do after winning is to play a little more, then stop. No player has ever gained profits out of losing control in gambling. He would embrace void decisions, because his emotion is not stabilized. That's why players should deposit little amount of money, such that even though they've lost control. The lack of money in their balance would help them get back to their control. And, they'll have nothing to lose or regret on the long run.

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November 20, 2023, 01:52:38 PM
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Both factors affect gamblers.

Loses is the worst of it IMO. If a gambler is winning most likely he may keep winning and even if he has lost control and start betting higher then it is to his advantage because he keeps making money. Moreover if he later start to lose, he is likely to run off with the remaining profit with him, at this stage he has the control to guide himself but not when he is losing. Losing in gambling makes you take even more wrong decisions because you want to either try other pattern to see if you will be lucky which is significant of the confirmation that you have lost control.

So someone who is winning his bet is likely not to change his system indicative of being in control but a losing person continuously changes system, indicative of losing control.

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November 20, 2023, 02:00:48 PM
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If a gambler is winning most likely he may keep winning and even if he has lost control and start betting higher then it is to his advantage because he keeps making money.

So someone who is winning his bet is likely not to change his system indicative of being in control but a losing person continuously changes system, indicative of losing control.
The reality there's nothing like that, when a gambler is winning, he will lose since the more you gamble the more probability you will lose. Either the winner or loser is gamble with self control, the result will not change.

Every gamblers are used to face losses, but not every gamblers can comeback and beat their own feelings/emotions.

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