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November 23, 2023, 05:26:50 AM
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The old 'chasing losses' routine! Serious gamblers consider it a rite of passage. Self-control loss? Friends, its game. Consider: whats a bet without an emotional ride? Gambling is unexpected, heart-pounding, and exciting. Self-control? Please. Not a monastery, but a casino. Riding the highs and lows is key. Accepting loss is for quitters. A true gambler knows the next big victory is imminent.

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Yes, it has become a kind of routine that gamblers do every time they want to start gambling so it will only lead to loss of self-control. Every time they gamble, it will increase emotional impulses, but if they can control themselves, they will not be provoked to exceed their limits. However, many gamblers end up crossing their limits until they become addicted to gambling. Only with good self-control can gamblers avoid losing a lot.

A gambler who can control himself will smile to see that he can anticipate a lot of losses and can take good care of himself while he is gambling. Especially if he has had bad experiences before and really wants to learn good self-control so that he will not lose control of himself and can even enjoy gambling as usual. He also won't be tempted to use too much money in gambling because he knows it won't give him good results.

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November 23, 2023, 06:58:08 AM
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There is an opinion that the greatest dependence on gambling is formed at the moment of a big win. The player understands that money can be earned LIKE THIS. This is a fairly common opinion.

But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.

What do you think about it?
In cases like this there are many moments that can make a person lose control of gambling, even though he already has financial restrictions, what you mentioned is one example that indeed such things often happen to gamblers that ultimately make someone continue gambling, because they want to return to the best state before.

And usually because of that, their mentality also becomes bad, because they think they can return to their previous situation, even though they are even more in a downturn, and at that time what they have built before gambling to follow the rules is all destroyed by such a small mistake. emotional control is very important in cases like this, which if you have good emotional control, you will always be wiser in trying your luck even after winning, you play once more and then lose, you will still stop because you feel that the benefits of the previous multiples are still mostly on your side.

I think this kind of mistake is more likely in slot gamblers. Grin

I think they lose control when they get a small win, because at that time they will be confused about continuing the game or cashing it in. But most of those who continue the game because of a small win think that their luck has not run out, so they decide to continue the game even though by continuing the game, it is not necessarily going to get another win, instead it can spend the winnings they got at the beginning.
What often happens, when they continue the game, and most of the gamblers who continue the game they get a win that makes them upset and want to return the winnings they have gotten, but it needs to be underlined, with the loss of the winnings they get, based on their own choices, so they should be able to accept it instead of getting upset and wanting to gamble again. And this in my opinion can be said to be the moments when they lose control.
If attracted from these two views, in my opinion there is a common thread that we can conclude as the main context of the habit of losing control, which is greed, I think it's a more appropriate sentence for your two views and op, no matter the big or small victory Get, if basically has greedy properties it will crash into a stone that makes them lose what has been won.

But it should also be remembered that it happened to those who wanted a victory from the gambling they did or could be said the purpose of gambling from the beginning, but for those who seek pleasure in gambling I think winning and losing for them is not the main thing, and certainly not There is the term loss to those who have such principles in gambling, so there is no loss of money from the defeat that is pursued or seeking victory in gambling.

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November 23, 2023, 11:24:33 AM
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There is an opinion that the greatest dependence on gambling is formed at the moment of a big win. The player understands that money can be earned LIKE THIS. This is a fairly common opinion.

But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.

What do you think about it?

Yes, that's all true, many gambling addicts become that because they want to recover their initial losses, they don't realize that what they are doing has actually plunged them into bad behavior. In fact, not all gamblers are able to return their initial capital, they only do things in vain and many even incur large debts. However, trying hard to return gambling capital is a hard job, it is not that easy, it even tends to create traps which leads to gambling addiction.



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November 23, 2023, 11:41:40 AM
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There is an opinion that the greatest dependence on gambling is formed at the moment of a big win. The player understands that money can be earned LIKE THIS. This is a fairly common opinion.

But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.

What do you think about it?
When we get big profits, of course the money has no value because we will continue to play and want to make bigger profits. And I have felt this. Likewise, when we experience defeat we continue to chase or recover the losses we have so that what happens we cannot control which makes the losses even bigger, I have also experienced this. But now I have learned from experience and can control every game, both when I lose and when I win.

I think we have been in both positions as you describe, not being able to control when gambling or losing control and this is normal. However, for those who want to think and reflect, they will not want to be trapped twice in the same problem, because they have turned their mistakes into experience for the future.

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November 23, 2023, 11:55:20 AM
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There is an opinion that the greatest dependence on gambling is formed at the moment of a big win. The player understands that money can be earned LIKE THIS. This is a fairly common opinion.

But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.

What do you think about it?
When we get big profits, of course the money has no value because we will continue to play and want to make bigger profits. And I have felt this. Likewise, when we experience defeat we continue to chase or recover the losses we have so that what happens we cannot control which makes the losses even bigger, I have also experienced this. But now I have learned from experience and can control every game, both when I lose and when I win.

I think we have been in both positions as you describe, not being able to control when gambling or losing control and this is normal. However, for those who want to think and reflect, they will not want to be trapped twice in the same problem, because they have turned their mistakes into experience for the future.
On the time that you are in the verge n winning big then you would really be mainly thinking that winning is just easy, you do still have funds on your wallet which do came from in thin air.
Therefore, you would really be making yourself that confident and ends up on playing even further and trying out to seek for another win and this is a very typical scenario or situation.
You would really be able to lose control if you are a type of person whose really that not good when it comes to handling your emotion or having that disciplined mind.

You are really that prone to mistakes and errors just because you arent really minding about those probabilities or cases on which you would really be that trying out to achieve
even if its already not a viable or have those possibilities to happen. Losing up control is a no go in gambling field, you should really be that responsible as much as possible
specially with your finances because if you dont then expect huge losses.

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November 23, 2023, 12:18:04 PM
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There is an opinion that the greatest dependence on gambling is formed at the moment of a big win. The player understands that money can be earned LIKE THIS. This is a fairly common opinion.

But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.

What do you think about it?

        -  Since I have never been addicted to gambling, maybe I was almost led in the direction of becoming an addict because I felt the urge to continue playing when I experienced a series of wins, but the amount I was winning was only small.

That's why my desire to continue is increasing, and I feel the heat that it's really good to play gambling and make easy money only when you experience the feeling of being lucky on the day you play gambling. But when I noticed that it wasn't right, I realized that I shouldn't continue with that feeling.

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November 23, 2023, 01:23:50 PM
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But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.


This seems to be a common situation for gamblers who don't grasp the risks involved and refuse to acknowledge that losses are part of the game. It's an undying issue in the gambling world for many irresponsible gamblers spending more than their actual budget. Unfortunately, some even reach the point of blaming gambling for their misfortunes rather than reflecting on their own approach to it.

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November 23, 2023, 01:36:09 PM
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But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.


This seems to be a common situation for gamblers who don't grasp the risks involved and refuse to acknowledge that losses are part of the game. It's an undying issue in the gambling world for many irresponsible gamblers spending more than their actual budget. Unfortunately, some even reach the point of blaming gambling for their misfortunes rather than reflecting on their own approach to it.
It's very funny when you go in playing for profits and after the loses inquired, the whole feeling of profits gets out of your head and the fight for your own funds start kicking and on that moment you are emotional destabilize and nothing you will ever try will work out for you. And if you don't know how to control yourself you could go all out and lose your whole bank role in just few seconds. The gambler is just eager to recover from his lost and forget the more he tries the deeper he gets involved.

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November 23, 2023, 01:56:25 PM
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What do you think about it?
For me, I was emotional and lost control, it came unexpectedly and suddenly, when I was carrying out gambling activities, I experienced bad luck.

As the OP said, there is also some truth in 'loss' but other things can also happen when we prioritize greed in gambling, I can also feel that it is out of control, when I want to reach level to level and want to achieve big profits.

Other things that can happen out of control can also happen when you want to try playing another game, which according to belief can achieve big wins and things out of control happen when we hope never happen, that's why it's important to be able to control yourself in gambling, to prevent things getting out of control.

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November 23, 2023, 02:13:40 PM
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That is why they gamblers are always greedy when they get a win and never feel enough with what they have managed to get, instead of getting a bigger win but what happens is unexpected, yes all their initial winnings are back up and there is no other feeling they feel except regret. And also when they lose, they will be curious and continue to re-deposit with the intention as you mentioned above, like struggling to catch up with defeat with the aim of chasing a break-even point that never ends.
That's what chasing of losses is.

Most gamblers do that because they are looking at the part that they can make more money and if they're successful with that, they forget to secure their profits and do more as they think that there's so much more to do.

After that, when they lose everything and can't do that much anymore. That's where they realize that they should have never touched their profits and should have been contented on that when they're still on a winning streak.

Greed will never end if you don't limit it yourself, yes that's right some gamblers are greedy because they are too serious in terms of seeing the chances of a bigger win, are you sure that the next time luck is still on your side? what makes you sure and will you not regret it if it all doesn't go your way in the end? I always ask these two questions to some of my friends when they want to act greedy, if they understand the real concept of gambling and still have a little awareness then they will obey my reasonable words, and if they are still very hard with the wrong mindset then honestly I will not force them and I will just let it go, but do you know what happened at the end of the session? yes I saw him very upset and emotional to the point of shouting to let out his frustration because instead of getting a bigger win but the opposite happened, everything was gone, and do you know what they said in that condition? they said "if only I had withdrawn at the beginning maybe this wouldn't have happened", haha I just laughed at it. The question is do you want to have the same fate as my friend? go ahead.


So in essence there is nothing better they can do except trying to apply a lot of restrictions or even stop, that's better.
Even so, because those restrictions will be forgotten later on.

Although boundaries and self-control are very important for a gambler, and even if they have prepared for it, sometimes it won't always be able to close the possibility of a bad ending, that's because the excitement and thrill of gambling is very likely to make you forget all the boundaries you have prepared beforehand. They need to be very assertive in every session, and also if possible if you are accompanying your friend who is gambling then I hope you can help them realize when they want to act out of control or do something that they cannot be held accountable for. Therefore, it is quite difficult to be able to apply limits when you are dominated by lust, as I said earlier, there is nothing better than you try to stop or just reduce it.

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November 23, 2023, 02:22:17 PM
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What do you think about it?
For me, I was emotional and lost control, it came unexpectedly and suddenly, when I was carrying out gambling activities, I experienced bad luck.

As the OP said, there is also some truth in 'loss' but other things can also happen when we prioritize greed in gambling, I can also feel that it is out of control, when I want to reach level to level and want to achieve big profits.

Other things that can happen out of control can also happen when you want to try playing another game, which according to belief can achieve big wins and things out of control happen when we hope never happen, that's why it's important to be able to control yourself in gambling, to prevent things getting out of control.

I agree with you - it's very easy to lose control. I remember myself playing before - I launched slots and the standard bet there was 2 bollars per spin. I played the slots five times and lost $10. And then I took the bet on the spin to 5 dollars to win back. Then I lost money again - about $30 in total. Then I raised the bid to 10. In a word, in minutes I was losing control at a tremendous speed. And I wanted more and more.

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November 23, 2023, 02:32:15 PM
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I agree with you - it's very easy to lose control. I remember myself playing before - I launched slots and the standard bet there was 2 bollars per spin. I played the slots five times and lost $10. And then I took the bet on the spin to 5 dollars to win back. Then I lost money again - about $30 in total. Then I raised the bid to 10. In a word, in minutes I was losing control at a tremendous speed. And I wanted more and more.

This is a common problem, I have same experienced too. IMO, Because our initial mindset is not to play for fun, but to try our luck to get more money. So when we are getting loss, in the end we will start not to accept that, because we feel that the initial intention of playing was to win, not to lose. So when we are loss, we will trying to add some of deposit and bet with bigger bets with the aim of winning more. this can be happens because, for some people, it is very difficult to gamble just for fun. That's why many people lose control when playing slots.

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November 23, 2023, 03:41:25 PM
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I agree with you - it's very easy to lose control. I remember myself playing before - I launched slots and the standard bet there was 2 bollars per spin. I played the slots five times and lost $10. And then I took the bet on the spin to 5 dollars to win back. Then I lost money again - about $30 in total. Then I raised the bid to 10. In a word, in minutes I was losing control at a tremendous speed. And I wanted more and more.
Losing control will be much worse in gambling because we can no longer control the gambling, it feels strange if you increase your bet in a losing position because usually people will increase their bet when they see the potential for winning in the previous round. I played slots before, but rarely played in bigger rounds because usually I would start from a small table first and if there was potential for winning, I would increase the bet slowly. This method is believed to have more potential to survive the slot rounds and not experience rapid losses caused by the account balance running out.

I also experienced the same thing and when I started increasing the bets bigger it would eventually end in a total loss that I couldn't sustain. Therefore, it is important to control gambling and if in the previous round we win, it is better to stop for a moment and take advantage of the win and this is always practiced by my friends me when they gamble.

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That's why they say that ludoman is primarily characterized by the fact that he has to pay for relatives who are ready to endlessly pay loans and credits for him. But what is money for a ludoman? They have no meaning for him, they are just candy wrappers.
But I would like to note that any ludomaniac is curable if he knows how to empathize or who experiences shame or reflection.
I can't imagine how the relatives would react if they had to pay endless loans and credits to the gambler because that means he has to be able to prepare a sum of money, which might become larger if the gambler is determined to borrow large amounts of money. Gamblers can be cured, even those who have a serious gambling addiction can also be cured, but it certainly won't be easy because they definitely don't want to admit that they are addicted to gambling. They will definitely avoid it, will continue gambling, and will experience losses that they cannot imagine. Gamblers who lose control will not be able to think clearly because all they can think about is gambling and having more money to gamble with. They may not want to think about where their money comes from.

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November 23, 2023, 04:17:06 PM
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There is an opinion that the greatest dependence on gambling is formed at the moment of a big win. The player understands that money can be earned LIKE THIS. This is a fairly common opinion.
This is the truth because if you interview many gamblers, you will realised that they got into gambling as a result of a huge win from them or from someone else. It is this winning that gives them the motivation to enter into gambling and continue in it. Hope is an important ingredient in any business and that is exactly what winnings or testimony of it gives.

But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.

What do you think about it?
I don't think I agree with you completely. Losses only embolden gambling addicts who will decide to chase losses which will end up doing more damages. For the new gamblers and normal players, losses create some kind of fear that discourages them from taking further risk.

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November 23, 2023, 04:41:38 PM
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He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.

Revenge gambling can be dangerous most at times because when you gamble and you notice that you don't win and have lost huge amount maybe one finds himself into lose he has no option that to keep trying at this point of trying, he even endangering himself the more because he wanna recover some money. Here is where to know a responsible gambler because he don't quite at that point he noticed shortage of funds or out of funds he doesn't need to prove himself to at least streak a winning.


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November 23, 2023, 05:17:42 PM
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winning or losing can be an incentive to lose control but it all depends on the mindset of each gambler.
Yes, that's right, because mindset determines gamblers' behavior and how they play, whether gambling for entertainment and fun or seeking wealth or making gambling a source of permanent income, but when gambling doesn't have the right goal and mindset, it usually gets out of control, it's hard to determine where to go. which way we gamble, at least we have to know the purpose of why we have to gamble.

At least don't lose control when gambling because winning and losing are part of gambling, not something that should make your feelings go haywire, the point is to gamble responsibly and wisely so you can control yourself well when gambling because it is very important to be able to control yourself when gambling. while gambling.
well, more precisely the purpose of gambling.
I mean if a gambler has a goal of just trying their luck with a small amount, they certainly won't lose control because they will simply consider losing or losing as normal and those who gamble with the aim of just trying their luck are usually more responsible and know when to right.
there are lots of gamblers who lose control and it has been explained several people here that they even lose control more often when losses come in succession which makes their emotions higher and encourages a gambler to chase these losses.

key to not losing control really depends on how a gambler handles this bad thing.

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November 23, 2023, 05:18:33 PM
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He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.

Revenge gambling can be dangerous most at times because when you gamble and you notice that you don't win and have lost huge amount maybe one finds himself into lose he has no option that to keep trying at this point of trying, he even endangering himself the more because he wanna recover some money. Here is where to know a responsible gambler because he don't quite at that point he noticed shortage of funds or out of funds he doesn't need to prove himself to at least streak a winning.

Not only is it dangerous but if you gamble with the intention of revenge it is the same as you digging a hole to bury yourself, do you want to beat the house? what is the strong reason you do that? while on the other hand everything that goes on in gambling is regulated by the casino itself, if you want to go against the provisions that have been designed by the casino then it is the same as you want to commit suicide or deepen your slump. I understand you are very upset with the results that are always not in accordance with what you want, but on the other hand do you not realize that this is gambling?

Therefore correct your mindset, I think it is a natural downturn that you experience because you come with intentions and goals that should not be, you come to make money while gambling is intended to seek pleasure or entertainment, why? because this is a business for casinos and the name of the business means there is a profit that the casino is after, simply put is if you lose then it is a profit for the casino and the casino always wants the gamblers to lose. Therefore it is obvious that the more you gamble, the more losses you will get, in fact the occasional win you get is just to make you addicted, that's how smart casinos are.

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November 23, 2023, 05:38:46 PM
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There is an opinion that the greatest dependence on gambling is formed at the moment of a big win. The player understands that money can be earned LIKE THIS. This is a fairly common opinion.

But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.

What do you think about it?
I think both are true. A gambler may choose to gamble depending on big wins while many gamblers gamble to recoup their losses. There are some people who win in gambling they bet more to get more so naturally this is what attracts a gambler more. But I rely on my gambling mainly for my losses which you mentioned. I lost a large amount in gambling so I realized that if I want to earn that money in any other way then I need a lot of time but if I earn through gambling it can be very easy but of course it needs luck to win. The more one loses in gambling, he will try to depend on it. It is not possible for everyone to walk away with huge losses as long as he is able to continue his gambling.

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November 23, 2023, 06:29:24 PM
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But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.


This seems to be a common situation for gamblers who don't grasp the risks involved and refuse to acknowledge that losses are part of the game. It's an undying issue in the gambling world for many irresponsible gamblers spending more than their actual budget. Unfortunately, some even reach the point of blaming gambling for their misfortunes rather than reflecting on their own approach to it.

It is not surprising that many people "blame gambling" when they get a defeat and assume that the gambling site behaves fraudulently and does not apply fairly to its visitors. And often they say it spontaneously, because they have lost too often.

But what makes me unable to think, even though they often get defeated and always mock gambling, but the next day they deposit again to play gambling and even they prefer to play than breakfast. And they never think and learn how to control their emotions in playing gambling, and never think about how to anticipate so that this gambling activity does not become something too detrimental.
Because in essence, if you are unable to make this gambling activity a profitable activity, then you must try to turn this gambling into something that is not too detrimental but very enjoyable.

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