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November 21, 2023, 09:36:39 AM
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A very lucky man despite the troubles that he experienced. At least he managed to get what he deserved. It's best that you don't let tickets hang around or let anyone near it that could destroy it unless it's already invalid. Great win plus the benefits of the additional percentage. Woo.
This incident happened to our country and this is a real life story, 9 years is too long but he's very persistent to claim his prize even if it took so long> I don't know if the news mentioned how much he spent for all the court hearing and lawsuit but 12Million pesos is a huge amount on this day for an average person. The money he won can be used to start a business or use it in buying property and investment. About the rift of the winner to his daughter, I think 9 years is enough for not be able to forgive his daughter. In the first place, It's not a good idea to ruin your family just because of money and unexpected circumstances.



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November 21, 2023, 09:42:18 AM
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If I have all the evidence that prove that I won the bet, I will take the case to anywhere to get justice that will make me to have access to the money because what the court need if case like this come to them, they will carry out their investigation to check all the documents presented before court. And the judges will look into the case and give justice to who justice is due base on the evidence they present before the court and the guy that won the bet will gain full access to his lotto reward.

I guess something like this happened in my area some years ago, but with the help of court and other strong politicians she was able to achieved her benefits that worth $20,000 , but the case lasted for 7 years and some months before she finally got justice from the court.

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November 21, 2023, 10:03:54 AM
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My questions are :
Do you think it's worth the wait, he's getting 6% interest per annum but he still has to pay a lot of money and suffers a lot even to the point of having a rift with his daughter
Will you do the same thing and fight for your rights to claim the prize
The amount of money he won is enough to start living a better life. Even selling properties and sacrificing his time and work to attend the hearing/s was worth it. The amount of money he won has paid for all the sacrifices and efforts he made. Additionally, the interest he got will act as a bonus for winning.

Let's just say, subtracting all the expenses and the tax he paid for winning 12 million pesos, all expenses are around 4-5 million pesos. The remaining amount is enough to start a small business and have a house to comfortably live with.

If the same situation happened to me, I would also do the same. I'll fight for my rights and claim for the amount I've won. Even how long it will take.


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November 21, 2023, 10:29:41 AM
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If the same situation happened to me, I would also do the same. I'll fight for my rights and claim for the amount I've won. Even how long it will take.

I'd do the same because if I did not, I have something to regret in the latter years of my life so if I still can I will fight for my rights and hopefully it will fade off just like what happened to the winner, everything side with him because all the evidence pointed that he won the 12 million pesos, it's a long battle I'm sure he will enjoy the fruit of waiting for 9 years.
I'm sure he will value every cent of the prize because it is blood and sweat just to get it, and also this is a big lesson not to do anything with a winning ticket to avoid the same scenario.
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November 21, 2023, 10:53:32 AM
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A very lucky man despite the troubles that he experienced. At least he managed to get what he deserved. It's best that you don't let tickets hang around or let anyone near it that could destroy it unless it's already invalid. Great win plus the benefits of the additional percentage. Woo.
This incident happened to our country and this is a real life story, 9 years is too long but he's very persistent to claim his prize even if it took so long> I don't know if the news mentioned how much he spent for all the court hearing and lawsuit but 12Million pesos is a huge amount on this day for an average person. The money he won can be used to start a business or use it in buying property and investment. About the rift of the winner to his daughter, I think 9 years is enough for not be able to forgive his daughter. In the first place, It's not a good idea to ruin your family just because of money and unexpected circumstances.

This sounds like a viral story in your country, even, I tried to look it up using some keywords, but was able to find few blog articles on the event. There is no place it's written on the article I read, the amount he spent on the case. In 9 years, which isn't a transient period, pursuing a court case should cost him lots of cash. But, it shouldn't be close to his reward. It's quite disheartening to spend 9 years with the person who burnt or rumpled the bet ticket. Seeing his daughter as the facilitator of his stress and trouble, wouldn't cease to visit his mind. It'll lodge in his subconscious. Thereby, worsening a new day, between the both; father and daughter. You have got a reasonable thought, about not allowing money to build a foundation of argument and hatred in your home. Imagining the difficult days and trauma the father passed through, from day 1 of the event down to 9 years. Only a few percent of men would not take offense on the main genesis of the problem, regardless of who or what the person is to them. Don't forget he's a gambler. And the jackpot would have been his all time favorite breakfast. That morning, she ruined his happiness. On the second flip, nothing supersedes family. Money may try to, but it's not worth the angst behind a broken home. Somewhere in his heart, today, he'll be regretting his actions on his daughter. The delay, brought him more fame, and respect  from the worldwide gambling community. Many victims of delay can corroborate, the wait is always worth it, as it comes alongside multiple rewards.

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November 21, 2023, 10:59:26 AM
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Do you think it's worth the wait, he's getting 6% interest per annum but he still has to pay a lot of money and suffers a lot even to the point of having a rift with his daughter


He fought to claim his winnings, and I think it's worth the wait. Twelve million pesos is still a lot of money; he's now one of the millionaires in the Philippines, so he should be happy with that. The 6% interest per annum is another bonus, so I guess he'll now live a good life with the money he won from the lottery.

The good thing is that the court has honored his winnings. I thought when a ticket is already destroyed, it's automatically non-acceptable, but the ruling of the court favors him but the sad part is after nine long years. What kind of justice system is that?
Talking millions in terms of local currency is really that always be worth of, not all would really be having the opportunity or having the chance on holding up such huge money.
Even he had spend out some money for having that kind of legal fight or case or something like that but it is really that worth it i guess. The winner itself isnt dumb on spending up tons
just to get a small amount. As a winner then you would really be that normally be that be eager on fighting for your right, you are a winner and there's no way
that they would be holding those winnings for those possible reason or whatever. I havent read up the whole story on the reason for such long hold.
Imagine it is almost a decade for fighting for your right. What kind of law system does Philippines had.
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November 21, 2023, 11:00:15 AM
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Were there no records of the bet beforehand in the lottery system in the first place? Though idrk how it works so they may not even have that kind of system, or even if they did, they never save stuff in the first place. Anyway, I reckon 200k usd is pretty big once converted into php. It might be a different thing depending on the costs he had though, considering it was a 9 year fight and lawyers are by no means cheap. I reckon they had no choice but to proceed though after a certain point so it just lasted till 9 years. I'd say still worth it though, as I said, it's still a lot of money if you consider the cost of living in the PH.

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November 21, 2023, 12:06:31 PM
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However, what irks me about this story is that it took them a delay of 9 years to reach a decision on such a simple case. Considering it's a government agency involved, you'd think they could have expedited the investigation.
The time is reasonable if we look at the process.
- The Regional Trial Court ruled in favor of the bettor but the PCSO appealed and brought it to the Court of Appeals.
- The Court of Appeals upheld the decision of the RTC but the PCSO still not convinced so they went to the highest court.
- The Supreme Court upheld the decision of the two lower courts.

The PCSO have all the resources so they exercised all their legal options and that's why it took a total of 9 years to come to a decision with finality. That means there will be no more appeals.


I totally get the legal process, but if we had a similar case like this in our countries, I doubt it would take even close to 5 years before the final decision is released. I understand that the Supreme Court is the highest court in the Philippines, and its decisions are final and can't be appealed. However, waiting for 9 years, in my opinion, is still way too long.

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November 21, 2023, 12:16:23 PM
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I'm sure he will value every cent of the prize because it is blood and sweat just to get it, and also this is a big lesson not to do anything with a winning ticket to avoid the same scenario.

Value is an understatement because over the 9 years he would have spent money close to the winning prize so except he goes after damages and expenses on the case against the lottery company, if he didn't succeed on that it means he only succeeded in making the headlines. However, he and more people have learnt their lessons on the reason to safeguard gambling tickets because you never know the ticket that will be declared winner. There is a native saying that you don't know the foetus that will be crown king, meaning every child is important. Likewise, every ticket is important.

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November 21, 2023, 01:10:12 PM
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However, what irks me about this story is that it took them a delay of 9 years to reach a decision on such a simple case. Considering it's a government agency involved, you'd think they could have expedited the investigation.
The time is reasonable if we look at the process.
- The Regional Trial Court ruled in favor of the bettor but the PCSO appealed and brought it to the Court of Appeals.
- The Court of Appeals upheld the decision of the RTC but the PCSO still not convinced so they went to the highest court.
- The Supreme Court upheld the decision of the two lower courts.

The PCSO have all the resources so they exercised all their legal options and that's why it took a total of 9 years to come to a decision with finality. That means there will be no more appeals.


I totally get the legal process, but if we had a similar case like this in our countries, I doubt it would take even close to 5 years before the final decision is released. I understand that the Supreme Court is the highest court in the Philippines, and its decisions are final and can't be appealed. However, waiting for 9 years, in my opinion, is still way too long.

That's how the system works if you don't have that money and right people to help you, it will b quicker if you knew someone who have higher authority or if that person use socia media to create attentions, the process might be speed up since the court don't want any negative criticizm and for sure there are many so called righteous people who will ride with this case to help speeding up the process.

But since the winner patiently waits and continues to follow that so called legal process, it took him 9 years before he could finally enjoy the money that he deserves.

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November 21, 2023, 01:18:45 PM
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[....]
However, what irks me about this story is that it took them a delay of 9 years to reach a decision on such a simple case. Considering it's a government agency involved, you'd think they could have expedited the investigation.
The time is reasonable if we look at the process.
- The Regional Trial Court ruled in favor of the bettor but the PCSO appealed and brought it to the Court of Appeals.
- The Court of Appeals upheld the decision of the RTC but the PCSO still not convinced so they went to the highest court.
- The Supreme Court upheld the decision of the two lower courts.

The PCSO have all the resources so they exercised all their legal options and that's why it took a total of 9 years to come to a decision with finality. That means there will be no more appeals.


I totally get the legal process, but if we had a similar case like this in our countries, I doubt it would take even close to 5 years before the final decision is released. I understand that the Supreme Court is the highest court in the Philippines, and its decisions are final and can't be appealed. However, waiting for 9 years, in my opinion, is still way too long.

That's how the system works if you don't have that money and right people to help you, it will b quicker if you knew someone who have higher authority or if that person use socia media to create attentions, the process might be speed up since the court don't want any negative criticizm and for sure there are many so called righteous people who will ride with this case to help speeding up the process.

But since the winner patiently waits and continues to follow that so called legal process, it took him 9 years before he could finally enjoy the money that he deserves.

It appears that the PCSO is unwilling to assist the winner, despite him having all the necessary evidence to prove his win. While I understand that it's a substantial amount of money, the PCSO generates significant daily revenue from the lottery. It would be more than fair to award the rightful winner, not only as a matter of justice but also to inspire bettors who consistently place bets in the hopes of winning the jackpot prize one day.

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November 21, 2023, 02:05:14 PM
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[....]
However, what irks me about this story is that it took them a delay of 9 years to reach a decision on such a simple case. Considering it's a government agency involved, you'd think they could have expedited the investigation.
The time is reasonable if we look at the process.
- The Regional Trial Court ruled in favor of the bettor but the PCSO appealed and brought it to the Court of Appeals.
- The Court of Appeals upheld the decision of the RTC but the PCSO still not convinced so they went to the highest court.
- The Supreme Court upheld the decision of the two lower courts.

The PCSO have all the resources so they exercised all their legal options and that's why it took a total of 9 years to come to a decision with finality. That means there will be no more appeals.


I totally get the legal process, but if we had a similar case like this in our countries, I doubt it would take even close to 5 years before the final decision is released. I understand that the Supreme Court is the highest court in the Philippines, and its decisions are final and can't be appealed. However, waiting for 9 years, in my opinion, is still way too long.

That's how the system works if you don't have that money and right people to help you, it will b quicker if you knew someone who have higher authority or if that person use socia media to create attentions, the process might be speed up since the court don't want any negative criticizm and for sure there are many so called righteous people who will ride with this case to help speeding up the process.

But since the winner patiently waits and continues to follow that so called legal process, it took him 9 years before he could finally enjoy the money that he deserves.

It appears that the PCSO is unwilling to assist the winner, despite him having all the necessary evidence to prove his win. While I understand that it's a substantial amount of money, the PCSO generates significant daily revenue from the lottery. It would be more than fair to award the rightful winner, not only as a matter of justice but also to inspire bettors who consistently place bets in the hopes of winning the jackpot prize one day.
I don't think that it's not about the PCSO being unwilling to assist the winner. They have to proceed to the legal process which is where the process takes longer up to 9 years. There's a problem with the ticket, and it's hard to identify if his holding ticket is the winning ticket for the grand prize. It's a huge sum of money and they can't just easily give it to the one claiming to be the jackpot winner. If only the daughter of the winner hadn't ironed the ticket with a piece of cloth covering it, there would be no long waiting like this.

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November 21, 2023, 02:10:53 PM
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Were there no records of the bet beforehand in the lottery system in the first place? Though idrk how it works so they may not even have that kind of system, or even if they did, they never save stuff in the first place. Anyway, I reckon 200k usd is pretty big once converted into php. It might be a different thing depending on the costs he had though, considering it was a 9 year fight and lawyers are by no means cheap. I reckon they had no choice but to proceed though after a certain point so it just lasted till 9 years. I'd say still worth it though, as I said, it's still a lot of money if you consider the cost of living in the PH.
My mother used to work for a lottery house back then and I think they do have a system that records it so either the lottery teller was bad at her job or that the person behind it was just plain stupid that they've got this problem. 9 years of his life was wasted on this, I think that any sane person would just go for it because that amount money I think is still worth a lot even after all those fees for the case, and we can't forget that he was also a expatriate worker which means that he's got the money at the least in all of this, definitely worth it as you've said I live in the Philippines so I know what you are talking about in terms of cost of living and it's damn expensive especially if you are a breadwinner for the family and you don't really have a big salary for your work.



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November 21, 2023, 02:12:50 PM
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I don't think that it's not about the PCSO being unwilling to assist the winner.

As per this post from ;

The time is reasonable if we look at the process.
- The Regional Trial Court ruled in favor of the bettor but the PCSO appealed and brought it to the Court of Appeals.
- The Court of Appeals upheld the decision of the RTC but the PCSO still not convinced so they went to the highest court.
- The Supreme Court upheld the decision of the two lower courts.

The PCSO have all the resources so they exercised all their legal options and that's why it took a total of 9 years to come to a decision with finality. That means there will be no more appeals.


The holder of the ticket had already won all the trials but it's the PCSO who keeps appealing, that was in 3 court, RTC, COP and SC, all of them favored the holder of the ticket that wasn't honored, so that's the reason why the winnings was release. So if PCSO was willing to give, they should have not appealed after the RTC already made a decision.

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November 21, 2023, 02:50:02 PM
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It's been a long time, but it's been validated. Right, the ticket has an expiration date of 6 months; how come the duration of claiming his lottery winnings was extended?

But even so, almost a decade later, the owner of the ticket still fought. That means the wait is still worth it, and the lottery winner has not lost hope. Maybe the son who paid some part of the ticket seems like he can't forgive himself because of what happened. I'm just wondering if I'm the one in the child's situation that caused the problem with the ticket.



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November 21, 2023, 02:58:00 PM
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I will do the same as him and fight for that right to win, especially if there is evidence that confirms that I have the right to receive the winnings. And now that there is the internet, we can ask for support from people while showing the accurate evidence that we have. If they all support what we are doing, it doesn't seem like it will take long to get the winning money.

He deserved this winning, especially since he had fought for 9 years to resolve the case. Even though he has lost a lot from solving the case, he still has his winnings so he can start his life, and maybe he can even open his business with the winnings.

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November 21, 2023, 03:06:16 PM
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it was worth it to wait that long and win the case in the end. $217k is still a lot of money in the philippines and with that money he can build his life for the better. i salute the court and the lawyers who fought for him to be able to give him justice. and it is very rare to be able to win against a gambling platform in court because you know that the gambling platform has the resources and influence that they can use to fight, and it seems that the courts there still have integrity and dignity that cannot be bought.

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November 21, 2023, 03:41:04 PM
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$217K is a whole lot of money mate, so if you're asking if the wait, the struggle, the sacrifices was worth the wait, hell yeah it was. This only proves that you gotta make huge sacrifices and give up stuffs before you get what you want, sometimes even before you get what you truly deserve. I can only imagine the frustration the dude must have been through tryna fight for what's really his. Prove that sometimes life just wanna screw you over lol.

I remember having similar experience some time ago in the past. I made a huge win of almost $2k but misplaced the ticket and the company refused to pay the win when I returned to claim the win, on the ground that I can't claim my win without my ticket because there's no way to confirm that I am really the owner of the win. It was really frustrating I must say, I tried the best I could but all efforts proved abortive so I had to just let it go. I bet if the money was up to that $217k you bet I wouldn't just let it go, I would've fought tooth and nail to make sure I get money no matter how long it'd take or how much I had to sacrifice to make sure I get my money. It did teach me a lesson though, never to loose a ticket.

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November 21, 2023, 04:20:26 PM
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Do you think it's worth the wait, he's getting 6% interest per annum but he still has to pay a lot of money and suffers a lot even to the point of having a rift with his daughter


He fought to claim his winnings, and I think it's worth the wait. Twelve million pesos is still a lot of money; he's now one of the millionaires in the Philippines, so he should be happy with that. The 6% interest per annum is another bonus, so I guess he'll now live a good life with the money he won from the lottery.

The good thing is that the court has honored his winnings. I thought when a ticket is already destroyed, it's automatically non-acceptable, but the ruling of the court favors him but the sad part is after nine long years. What kind of justice system is that?
Justice system in the Philippines is rubbish, if you are innocent and get jailed I think if the opposition is rich and hired a good lawyer then good luck you might end up suffering long long years of prison before proven innocent. Same with what had happened to the lottery winner though he accidentally altered the ticket but still 9 years is for me a very long wait though it is still worth the wait of course since the court finally recognized him as the lucky winner  for that jackpot.



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November 21, 2023, 06:00:41 PM
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A lotto winner in the Philippines who won 12 million pesos in 2014 worth $217k now, can finally claim his lotto winning and this is after 9 years of legal battle
That is a long battle to win a lottery and i wonder how much he paid in lawyer fees for all these years to get $217k in return. Hope it is worth the battle because it does not sound like a lot of money to battle for 9 years considering how much legal fees you will be paying in a situation like this.

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I remember having similar experience some time ago in the past. I made a huge win of almost $2k but misplaced the ticket and the company refused to pay the win when I returned to claim the win, on the ground that I can't claim my win without my ticket because there's no way to confirm that I am really the owner of the win. It was really frustrating I must say, I tried the best I could but all efforts proved abortive so I had to just let it go. I bet if the money was up to that $217k you bet I wouldn't just let it go, I would've fought tooth and nail to make sure I get money no matter how long it'd take or how much I had to sacrifice to make sure I get my money. It did teach me a lesson though, never to loose a ticket.
How would you fight tooth and nail if you are not having the ticket ? You lost the ticket, you do not get the win, end of story !!!
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