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December 02, 2023, 02:10:18 PM
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I was guilty of this when I was a teenager not on online casinos but in a popular game on Fiesta It is a color game using dice, I was introduced here by my childhood friend and I had a lot of losses with this game, I'm using my school allowance so every time I lose money I blame my childhood for leading me to this color game I do it in a fun way as if I'm just joking but deep inside I hate it whenever I lose. I struggled to fight the temptation but the excitement led me to play again and again.
How about have you at any time blamed the one that led you to gambling in your mind, or even told him face to face?

I am of the opposite as I decided to stay away from gambling.

My father used to bring me and my brother to cockpit arenas to watch him fight various tournaments. Before the said fight, people would bet between the two (2) chickens, either "A" or "B" and the minimum bet was around $10 on our area. As you can see, my brother started with $20 and he ended up with $100; while I started with only $10 and lost the very first time I betted.

While I do understand that there were some moments when I still attempted to gamble and won a couple of times, I just cannot get myself to be addicted to a dangerous venture. Also, while others may be lucky, I just really consider myself as unlucky in these types of games which made me really decide to not to gamble.
In your case I risk saying it was good to lose on the first bet, so you didn't go ahead. Because if you had won and went further on the game, like your brother did, the fall would have been much more harmful later, once you had achieved a sweet profit, losing everything right after. Then you would feel much more tempted to chase losses, potentially accumulating more losses yet on the process. Maybe your father wouldn't let you do that too, so we never know.

Between playing by yourself and partnered with a trusted person more experienced than you, I think the later is the best alternative, as he will prevent you from acting impulsively during the gambling session. That can save your life and your finances until you calm down yourself and start thinking rationaly once again.

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December 02, 2023, 03:31:01 PM
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In your case I risk saying it was good to lose on the first bet, so you didn't go ahead. Because if you had won and went further on the game, like your brother did, the fall would have been much more harmful later, once you had achieved a sweet profit, losing everything right after. Then you would feel much more tempted to chase losses, potentially accumulating more losses yet on the process. Maybe your father wouldn't let you do that too, so we never know.
What you have said is also true because when you experience your first defeat or bitter experience when you first enter gambling, you can be more careful with the fear of experiencing defeat again.
This will work well in the future and can really help anyone who experiences it, but quite few gamblers who experience defeat on their first gamble try to recover and really can't accept the loss.
However, in my thinking I more inclined to say that whether winning or losing is the same and the impact, good or bad, depends on the gambler himself whether they have the right approach or not.

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Between playing by yourself and partnered with a trusted person more experienced than you, I think the later is the best alternative, as he will prevent you from acting impulsively during the gambling session. That can save your life and your finances until you calm down yourself and start thinking rationaly once again.
But it is not easy to find people like that who can be trusted and have experience in gambling because not all gamblers who are also our colleagues are wise people.
It like you are gambling in an environment that is filled with people who like to gamble, but not necessarily one or two of them can be trusted and have wise attitude.
Moreover, when they actually exist, they don't necessarily want to help us in gambling to be able to control all aspects of gambling.

Nowadays there are quite lot of people around us who actually feel happy when we experience failure and they feel jealous if we succeed.
Trusted people are very difficult to find in this era.

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December 02, 2023, 05:23:48 PM
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But it is not easy to find people like that who can be trusted and have experience in gambling because not all gamblers who are also our colleagues are wise people.
It like you are gambling in an environment that is filled with people who like to gamble, but not necessarily one or two of them can be trusted and have wise attitude.
Moreover, when they actually exist, they don't necessarily want to help us in gambling to be able to control all aspects of gambling.

Nowadays there are quite lot of people around us who actually feel happy when we experience failure and they feel jealous if we succeed.
Trusted people are very difficult to find in this era.
It's true, it's really hard to find good companies who are happy with your personal success and who will advise you wisely on the difficult moments. Not everyone find such good people on their way, but once you find, you have to care and cultivate this relationship the best you can, because it might be an unique opportunity in your life.

Unfortunatelly, besides being so hard to find this kind of relationship, people who finally do end wasting this by being treacherous or careless with the friend or familiar who always lent a hand.

Regards gambling, sometimes a good friend or tutor is just trying to help by advising the person to stop, and instead of being thankful for the orientation, the gambler ends turning against the person for no reason at all.

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December 03, 2023, 02:29:19 AM
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Not really. I started playing slots with friends as a teenager, it's something we did together and I don't remember anyone specifically introducing me to it. We just watched other people play, some of us started to try it and we all tried it.

I guess I don't hold grudges because over time I got a good understanding of how gambling works and it hasn't given me any problems.
This mean that you don't blame anyone for the gambling you have done because you and your friends know about it yourself through other people's who play it and you and your friends try to access the gambling via their respective cellphones and you can learn about gambling yourself.

I myself also don't blame anyone for the gambling that I do because it is my desire to get to know the type of games in casinos. Indeed, sometimes my friends tell me about bets that provide a chances of winning and I also bet on the game they say, but if it didn't works or I didn't make a profit. I don't blame my friend who told me about the bet because I did it with pleasure and we definitely know that everyone has different luck and gambling is a game that can be won because of luck.

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December 03, 2023, 03:10:08 PM
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It's true, it's really hard to find good companies who are happy with your personal success and who will advise you wisely on the difficult moments. Not everyone find such good people on their way, but once you find, you have to care and cultivate this relationship the best you can, because it might be an unique opportunity in your life.

Unfortunatelly, besides being so hard to find this kind of relationship, people who finally do end wasting this by being treacherous or careless with the friend or familiar who always lent a hand.

Regards gambling, sometimes a good friend or tutor is just trying to help by advising the person to stop, and instead of being thankful for the orientation, the gambler ends turning against the person for no reason at all.
That why it won't be easy for us to find someone trustworthy who can help each other so that we can always be in control when gambling. Moreover, if are the wrong person then when they see us gambling they won't give advice but they will also be curious and join in gambling.
After thinking about it, the best option is to learn individually to control every attitude, behavior and decision in gambling so that we can easily face all difficult situations.
That way we will not be dependent on other people.

Isn't it that when we experience something like that, it can actually be disappointing and maybe we experience an increase in emotions towards anyone, the worst impact is that we will lose our sense of trust in other people.

Usually they are someone who is also gambler, but they have had enough experience and have experienced the bitterness and sweetness of gambling so that they already know how gambling really works.
People like this will always give their best and will always provide the right advice and education when gambling.

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December 03, 2023, 05:06:49 PM
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Without a doubt the environment can shape the beliefs and actions of a person, so in the places where gambling is forbidden by the culture, religion or both, a person will grow up thinking it is wrong and doing what they can to avoid it, but at the places in which the opposite happens and gambling is encouraged as a way to increase the economy activity there, then a person will grow up thinking gambling is a good thing and that they should be free to enjoy it whenever they want.
Even though being a gambler myself, I think it should be avoided at any cost. It's not just about good or bad. People may start gamble as a medium for fun but as times passes, the motives becomes something else. The money the greed the addiction, consumes a gambler destroying everything. Cultural and religious practices are important when it comes to young people. Yes you are correct. It helps gives them to give them a clean direction, a purpose, one that is beneficial to them.
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I was guilty of this when I was a teenager not on online casinos but in a popular game on Fiesta It is a color game using dice, I was introduced here by my childhood friend and I had a lot of losses with this game, I'm using my school allowance so every time I lose money I blame my childhood for leading me to this color game I do it in a fun way as if I'm just joking but deep inside I hate it whenever I lose. I struggled to fight the temptation but the excitement led me to play again and again.
How about have you at any time blamed the one that led you to gambling in your mind, or even told him face to face?
I don't blame anyone for being involved in gambling because it all came from my awareness by finding out for myself. After all, I was curious about the posts, and every person who gambles, whether it was introduced by a friend, can't blame that person because the decision is still in your hands to gamble or don't gamble, and blaming other people for introducing you to gambling won't change anything because you are already involved in gambling and the important thing is to control yourself so you don't get too involved in gambling.

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December 04, 2023, 09:17:31 AM
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Until one gambles and losses what is more valuable and intolerable to loose, one would either find loosing funds in the gambling as fun probability a cause of an inability to realize how much have lost if accumulated.

My gambling beginning history is that I have been going to the gambling field with a friend who doesn't have a gambling budget. So sometimes he runs out of fund and will ask me to borrow him some money which I sometimes do and at then he could bet and recover all that he has lost untill he will be emptied again because he has refused to hear me when I asks him let's walk away from the gambling boards since he has recovered his lost stakes.
But he will always ask me to give him little time so he can count atleast some bit profits.

I was hope to believe that if I was to be him there is no way I can get lost on the gambling board so I decided to try bet with some tolerable denomination as part-time of waiting for my friend to finish up so we can just go home. Then I began to develop interest in gambling til I began going to the gambling board all by myself.

At this point of time I don't know how to classify how I got into gambling on who to be blamed but one thing sure is that I only regret gambling at when lost but always feels that joy at my winning .

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December 04, 2023, 10:53:32 AM
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I don't blame anyone for being involved in gambling because it all came from my awareness by finding out for myself. After all, I was curious about the posts, and every person who gambles, whether it was introduced by a friend, can't blame that person because the decision is still in your hands to gamble or don't gamble, and blaming other people for introducing you to gambling won't change anything because you are already involved in gambling and the important thing is to control yourself so you don't get too involved in gambling.
When people don't want to take responsibility for their actions, they always blame someone. Matured gamblers are the ones who can endure losses and enjoy gains. This is why I am sceptical about introducing people to anything. I prefer to allow people to make choices so that they will have nobody to blame. As much as nobody coerced you to gamble with your money, you should take full responsibility and not blame anybody.

Recently a relative was chasing her 18yrs son's friend from the house. She was shouting angrily that her son's friend was the person who introduced her son to gambling and now the boy stole his grandma's ATM and withdrew a large amount. This woman shouldn't blame anybody for her son's misbehaviour because her son has reached and even passed the statutory gambling age in my country.  Every adult should be willing to take full responsibility for our actions.
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I always wonder why I don't have anyone in my life teaching me something,  it's always like people sees me like a rare one, and they decide not to ever teach me anything even when they know that I am suffering, until one day I had to ask my father, and he told me that I am special, that whatever I try to get or learn will always work for me the way I want it, I never doubted my father and I just kept going harder.

No mentor, nothing, the first time I run a node I grab the hardware from a local church member who have no use to it then, but for me to gain the experience I got it done, it was same with mining Bitcoin and investing, I have always been the boss of myself.

The only tool I could consider to be a good teacher for me was using Google search engine, it was even how I found the forum too, as for gambling, no one introduce me to it, in fact no one introduce me to anything in crypto space and financial investments.

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December 04, 2023, 01:02:38 PM
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Without a doubt the environment can shape the beliefs and actions of a person, so in the places where gambling is forbidden by the culture, religion or both, a person will grow up thinking it is wrong and doing what they can to avoid it, but at the places in which the opposite happens and gambling is encouraged as a way to increase the economy activity there, then a person will grow up thinking gambling is a good thing and that they should be free to enjoy it whenever they want.
Even though being a gambler myself, I think it should be avoided at any cost. It's not just about good or bad. People may start gamble as a medium for fun but as times passes, the motives becomes something else. The money the greed the addiction, consumes a gambler destroying everything. Cultural and religious practices are important when it comes to young people. Yes you are correct. It helps gives them to give them a clean direction, a purpose, one that is beneficial to them.
We don't need to blame other people who introduced gambling to us because that will be our responsibility in deciding whether to gamble or not to return to gambling forever. They only introduce it, and if we get deeper into gambling because of the fun we get, it will be our fault because we cannot control ourselves in gambling. But if we can control ourselves well, we won't experience any problems and can instead use gambling as a fun pastime. Indeed, we should use gambling as a medium to have fun but not to try to make money from gambling because gambling is not for that. As long as we can use gambling properly, we will be fine and can enjoy gambling.

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December 04, 2023, 01:49:39 PM
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Without a doubt the environment can shape the beliefs and actions of a person, so in the places where gambling is forbidden by the culture, religion or both, a person will grow up thinking it is wrong and doing what they can to avoid it, but at the places in which the opposite happens and gambling is encouraged as a way to increase the economy activity there, then a person will grow up thinking gambling is a good thing and that they should be free to enjoy it whenever they want.
Even though being a gambler myself, I think it should be avoided at any cost. It's not just about good or bad. People may start gamble as a medium for fun but as times passes, the motives becomes something else. The money the greed the addiction, consumes a gambler destroying everything. Cultural and religious practices are important when it comes to young people. Yes you are correct. It helps gives them to give them a clean direction, a purpose, one that is beneficial to them.

In fact, even though gambling is prohibited in some countries, it is related to the applicable laws and jurisdiction. even if it is covered by a religious prohibition, it does not prevent someone from carrying out their desire to gamble. especially, in the internet era like today. with just a smartphone and the internet, someone can surf to find online casinos in various ways. especially, in several countries that adhere to strict religious teachings. in several other countries, gambling is legalized and has become a risky form of entertainment. this condition is used by the state or government to contribute to or improve the economy there. plus, provides employment opportunities. and in this era, it should be time for gambling to be separated from negative things and become part of modern entertainment.



@goxcraft, if gambling is not good for you. as you said you should be able to avoid it, especially as you say, no matter what. and in my opinion, the point you are making is the opposite of gambling in the past. In the past, we didn't have a broad understanding of gambling. So, the idea that we have in mind is nothing other than what you said. Gambling today is not a matter of greed, money, or even addiction. but rather entertainment in the midst of an increasingly modern era. with common sense, and intellectually we can think more rationally.
and the point of the theme content of the title of this thread, not as in our discussion in this post. OP asks "Have You At Any Point In Time Blame Who Taught Or Led You To Gambling?" I would answer, not at all. and why should we blame someone who taught us, after all we are the ones who are interested in this entertainment.

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December 04, 2023, 01:57:56 PM
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Actually, there is no need to blame other people, in this case, because the one to blame is ourselves, why do we want to try the gambling game ourselves, because at first we try, after winning once, we will feel curious so we do it over and over again until we lose and lose everything.

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December 04, 2023, 02:28:43 PM
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Even though being a gambler myself, I think it should be avoided at any cost. It's not just about good or bad. People may start gamble as a medium for fun but as times passes, the motives becomes something else. The money the greed the addiction, consumes a gambler destroying everything. Cultural and religious practices are important when it comes to young people. Yes you are correct. It helps gives them to give them a clean direction, a purpose, one that is beneficial to them.
Staying true to the initial intentions that led to your gambling habit is a very important and key factor that most newbie gamblers find difficult especially when you are not stable financially, because you have to attain a level of financial stability to make fun out of gambling but when it turns out you aren't stable enough it influences your approach towards gambling.

Financial stability has a lot to do with how well you approach gambling, if aren't stable enough, you will definitely be gambling to probably raise money for your next project or something else but when you have some level of stability derived from your job you could consider gambling as an entertainment you can afford but otherwise you are definitely going to have a change of motive along the lines because you are not at the level to see it as an entertainment

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December 04, 2023, 02:43:10 PM
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Without a doubt the environment can shape the beliefs and actions of a person, so in the places where gambling is forbidden by the culture, religion or both, a person will grow up thinking it is wrong and doing what they can to avoid it, but at the places in which the opposite happens and gambling is encouraged as a way to increase the economy activity there, then a person will grow up thinking gambling is a good thing and that they should be free to enjoy it whenever they want.
Even though being a gambler myself, I think it should be avoided at any cost. It's not just about good or bad. People may start gamble as a medium for fun but as times passes, the motives becomes something else. The money the greed the addiction, consumes a gambler destroying everything. Cultural and religious practices are important when it comes to young people. Yes you are correct. It helps gives them to give them a clean direction, a purpose, one that is beneficial to them.
To make it short, let the young ones be innocent of gambling. But there comes the problem in this era, you don't need a friend to tell you to gamble because the damn application in Android phones is injecting advertisements with either gambling or sometimes mild pornography in it. I don't know why it is not filtered and the other problem is, that ad blockers don't work there.
Then there's the popular streaming service which also relied on the watch history of their members. If you watch more sports then there's a chance you will bump into betting platforms which I think should not happen. I have been checking my kids' watch histories and I can also see some bad video recommendations when I click them.
This era is very different from when the internet was not yet popular. Now, we have to be aware of what they watch and not just their friends anymore because there's a high chance they will have knowledge about gambling the online way.

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December 05, 2023, 01:40:52 AM
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We don't need to blame other people who introduced gambling to us because that will be our responsibility in deciding whether to gamble or not to return to gambling forever. They only introduce it, and if we get deeper into gambling because of the fun we get, it will be our fault because we cannot control ourselves in gambling. But if we can control ourselves well, we won't experience any problems and can instead use gambling as a fun pastime. Indeed, we should use gambling as a medium to have fun but not to try to make money from gambling because gambling is not for that. As long as we can use gambling properly, we will be fine and can enjoy gambling.
We ourselves can take advantage of what gambling is like, people introduce gambling because we live in an era where people interact with each other via cell phones and when we gather we are not far from our cell phones, even if other people don't introduce gambling, we will be able to learn it ourselves and when your friend is playing gambling, you happen to know and you want to try to experience the game.
It's natural because we don't live alone, we have friends with different views, there's no need to blame other people if gambling is around your friendship, if you don't follow it you will still be safe, but if you participate in playing, use it wisely and don't get too involved in gambling so that don't cause thing that are out of control, gambling can cause addiction if you get too involved in the fun, so use it appropriately.

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December 05, 2023, 03:12:06 AM
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Without a doubt the environment can shape the beliefs and actions of a person, so in the places where gambling is forbidden by the culture, religion or both, a person will grow up thinking it is wrong and doing what they can to avoid it, but at the places in which the opposite happens and gambling is encouraged as a way to increase the economy activity there, then a person will grow up thinking gambling is a good thing and that they should be free to enjoy it whenever they want.
Even though being a gambler myself, I think it should be avoided at any cost. It's not just about good or bad. People may start gamble as a medium for fun but as times passes, the motives becomes something else. The money the greed the addiction, consumes a gambler destroying everything. Cultural and religious practices are important when it comes to young people. Yes you are correct. It helps gives them to give them a clean direction, a purpose, one that is beneficial to them.

You are right, this must be avoided, even if we were initially invited to gamble by friends and friends also introduced gambling, it feels like this should be avoided, because it is also unethical if we blame other people or friends. Maybe at the beginning of gambling we made an introduction to gambling, and if there is a feeling of wanting to gamble again it is not the pull of friends, I think it is the pull of gambling itself where we cannot resist it so we gamble again on the basis of our own will so it makes no sense if we blame friends for gambling again.

 After all, if they become addicted it's because of their own doing, like you said, with the beginning just to try or for fun, but over time the motive has changed, no longer for fun but that's how they did it themselves. So it doesn't make sense for them to blame others for what they did themselves.

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December 05, 2023, 11:10:56 AM
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We ourselves can take advantage of what gambling is like, people introduce gambling because we live in an era where people interact with each other via cell phones and when we gather we are not far from our cell phones, even if other people don't introduce gambling, we will be able to learn it ourselves and when your friend is playing gambling, you happen to know and you want to try to experience the game.
It's natural because we don't live alone, we have friends with different views, there's no need to blame other people if gambling is around your friendship, if you don't follow it you will still be safe, but if you participate in playing, use it wisely and don't get too involved in gambling so that don't cause thing that are out of control, gambling can cause addiction if you get too involved in the fun, so use it appropriately.
With technological advances that have developed more rapidly than a few years ago, we will also see advertisements for gambling, and maybe we will also try it ourselves without anyone introducing it to us. So when a friend introduces us to gambling, we should be wise in responding to it and not need to blame him because it is true that the responsibility is entirely in our hands. We have to be responsible if we really want to gamble and don't need to blame other people. Apart from that, we also don't have to gamble if we don't like it because there is a factor of losing money when we gamble. Yes, I agree that we can remain in control when our friends introduce something because they tell us that something, and then we will decide. And if we want to know more about gambling, we must be able to control ourselves so as not to be influenced by what is in the casino. By remaining wise in gambling, we can enjoy it more and will not use gambling as a place to make money.

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Well, in the things we do within a casino many things can be taken into consideration, first, it is true that a player who is somewhat experienced can realize many things, among them the risks he can assume, and it is just as it is. You say, life is like one of those things that we always decide, so when we see that there are different paths, we must know how to choose, because when we see that things are quite difficult because we have to take on the casualties no matter how big and unpleasant they may be. Sometimes we make decisions that are not appropriate and that has its repercussions and for this reason it is that we must assume it, in this life not only in our cases, in the game things work that way, we should not be so emphatic that we can To do it this way, there are better ways to do it, everything is based on this, of course they are one of the things that we as humans who always make mistakes must learn.

I have seen many people who are always complaining that person I see that someone takes me to a ravine and tells me to jump because he already did it, I'm not going to jump , I say no , but if I jump it's my problem and it's not because the person has taken me to the place Maybe there was some bad intention because he knows that at a time a person can be weak, people can be weak in a casino and do things they shouldn't, like bet all their money and put many things at risk, but That is not the fault of whoever took that person to the casino, because just as they took them to a casino, they can take them to a church or another activity and the person participate for a while and then go from time to time, but if they don't know how to say no It's difficult, because things don't work that way, you have to assume everything.

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December 05, 2023, 04:31:42 PM
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Actually, there is no need to blame other people, in this case, because the one to blame is ourselves, why do we want to try the gambling game ourselves, because at first we try, after winning once, we will feel curious so we do it over and over again until we lose and lose everything.

Actually, blaming oneself when comes to gambling, drinking and other potential addictions is very difficult, easier said than done. Most of the people with problems will continue to perpetuate in them by not acknowledging it. The only few instances someone would blame their situation on the first person who introduced them  gambling, would be if the person introduced is pretty close to rock bottom.
To me, it does not matter how much one has lost to gambling, in the end is how close to the financial ruin which opens one's eyes to reality.

A person in Asia can lose 1000$ and be completely crushed about it, blame his family member who introduced him to gambling. While someone in USA could lose up to 3000$ and still continue to play and feel nothing.

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