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November 22, 2023, 03:56:50 PM
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One of the things when the world carry know us wela for the world stage be say we de very religious, as a matter of fact, nija follow for one of the first 10 most religious country for the world and I doubt say anybody go fit argue am because an average person for we country be either Christian, Muslim, traditionalist or believe in one thing or the other. Personally, I no see anything when de  wrong to believe in a supernatural power but na how we de take follow am na where the problem take de.

Apart from the fact say our leaders de very bad with there decisions and policies, one of the major problem we de face as a nation na product of religious differences when don separate us and don course serious division for families and between societies.

E get some religion when de restrict her members from doing certain things and even when doing such things go bring food for the table of the person, they will prefer to suffer just to be in obedient to such believe system.

 Apart from the fact say the government no accept Bitcoin for we country, you know say e get certain persons when no go still accept am even if it is approved by the government as long as there religious leaders kicks against it.

I get some cousin sis when no gree go school because for there faith, them no de allow person go university and even when i don try to talk sense into her head at several instances, she no de gree hear me because of The amount of brain washing she done receive from those religious teachers.

I be religious person also but I feel say if person de exposed enough, e go help am to make use of the teachings him de receive from the religious circle in the right way.

Of course, I know say of recent most of our religious organisation don de improve on so many sectors and we don de see them introducing certain things for there programs when de geared towards educating their audience on so many matters as it relate to real life and financial issues and this na a very good thing because, as most of our people don de believe in almost everything these religious leaders de talk, na to push strategies when fit better our country into that angles of the society so them fit use that way influence good policies that would be of benefit to the country.

If churches and mosque begin to talk about saving her offering in bitcoin or even receiving bitcoin as donation into the church or mosque wallet, e no go take time before most government parastetals go have a second thought on advocating for bitcoin adoption in the country.

This is purely my humble opinion and it's open to criticism and discussion.

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November 22, 2023, 05:56:55 PM
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Religion is supposed to be a personal thing, a tool to guide individual's character, which should be unconnected to politics. Unfortunately, we tend to mix religion with politics, thereby creating religious supremacy that has complicated our plural society instead of making it better.

I don't think religion has helped us so much in Nigeria, there are people even thinking that for the case of Nigeria, religion is being used as another form of colonialism because people are more loyal to their religion than their country and even humanity.

What we need is total reorientation to enable us know that our greatest responsibility is to humanity. We can't continue to experience religious multiplicity when our humanity is depreciating.

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November 22, 2023, 10:23:10 PM
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E get some religion when de restrict her members from doing certain things and even when doing such things go bring food for the table of the person, they will prefer to suffer just to be in obedient to such believe system.

I get some cousin sis when no gree go school because for there faith, them no de allow person go university and even when i don try to talk sense into her head at several instances, she no de gree hear me because of The amount of brain washing she done receive from those religious teachers.
The kind mentality we Nigerians get towards Religion eh, permit me to say it's kind of abnormal and excessive. Religion never started from Nigeria but the way we use dey carry am for head e too much and sometimes due to say we dey blinded by this religion we dey miss out on so many benefits from the society and community.

Of a truth, if we are capable of keeping this religions aside and regard ourselves first as human, there will be positive result from such a decision digging down to our economic sector


If churches and mosque begin to talk about saving her offering in bitcoin or even receiving bitcoin as donation into the church or mosque wallet, e no go take time before most government parastetals go have a second thought on advocating for bitcoin adoption in the country..
This one go hard for the aspect of Churches or Mosques to save her offerings as Bitcoin no easy cos this our churches are mostly headed by Elderly people and is very difficult for them to accept the use of Bitcoin and even when u try to teach they feel less concern and unwiling, talking about the stress of trading from Naira to Btc when dey can easily deposit the money in banks and make easy withdrawals when needed


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November 22, 2023, 11:30:28 PM
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Religion to some people is the total way of life why to some people is just a part of their faith and to increase their closeness to the creator. What we should all understand and know is that humanity is much greater than religion, without humanity, the point of religion has no meaning. People have been hiding under the shade of religion to destroy other people or a nation. No religion teaches violence or any negative impact to the society, if it was so, it won’t be a religion to be practiced in the first place. It his just time for people to begin to perceive as what it his in the society and act according to the teaching of the religions which they all promote positivity and no negativity in them.

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November 23, 2023, 05:19:49 AM
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I get some cousin sis when no gree go school because for there faith, them no de allow person go university and even when i don try to talk sense into her head at several instances, she no de gree hear me because of The amount of brain washing she done receive from those religious teachers.

Wetting you talk  about Christianity na true,  but the one wey really catch my attention na this one. I believe most of this things wetting dey cause am na believe people choose to believe. Nowadays people choose to believe in general overseas (GO) more than God's word. Reason being the magic they parform. Wetting me I see they cause all this religious manipulation na this so-called men of God wey go acquired power, dey perform wounders, and those wounders Dem dey perform they blind fold Church members not to know the reality from fantasy. As head of any public organization I believe they get influence. wetting Dem talk dey always get recognition and people dey like follow am. And whenever these men declare must surely get inpact on the members either positive or negative. Na this thing  dey make people dey confuse about wetting Christianity be, and come dey creat the wrong impression say na oyibo man use Christianity decived us. Where as na we make an be like say Dem decive us.

One thing about we 9ja people be say, we too dey over Doo things. I think say no be only Christianity oyibi bring come 9ja but also other things. But the only one people dey mostly emphasis on na Christianity. And I no blame them because Christianity talks about love, unity, peace and togetherness, now e come be like say wetting Dem talk na the opposite. But wetting on go understand be say in every 12 there is A Judah. And everything wey also dey happen na to accomplish the word of God. E get one church wey no dey drink medicine because there religion no parmit such. And this thing don cause most deaths of citizen base on what dey chose to believe. Some of this ducterine is no proposed by God, but Nan and due to man's ignorance not to understand the principle of life, they end up Choosing a part that can change their mental faculty all in the name of religion. So these things naim be the reason of religious discrimination. And Christians dey channel every problem to government not knowing say them too get a negative influence to the society also. Most churches don't turn to a place of defruading people in the name of Christianity. Tanishing the image of God.

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November 23, 2023, 09:33:00 PM
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Religion is a good thing just that we Nigerians don too attached ourselves to the religion and the thing come dey affect us somehow. In our politics today their is religious sentiment,  even in the military too. Normally religion suppose bring us together with love but wetin the religion come dey do now is to disunite us. The way the religion matter come dey go e come be like say if to say the religions no dey exists for this our country the country for even better pass the way e dey now. I think this our religion of a thing dey really drag us back.

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November 23, 2023, 09:47:35 PM
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Op you are quite correct considering your subject, now adays, a lot of people listen and practice more of what their religious leaders told them rather than what any other person or government tells them. In the society we are now, so many people believe in what they are being thought in religious places and it would have helped us a lot had it been we all practice a single religion but since we have different religions and doctrine it is very difficult for everyone to agree together on something and achieve it but however, the commitment of individuals in their various religious beliefs is a good one.

Apart from the fact say the government no accept Bitcoin for we country, you know say e get certain persons when no go still accept am even if it is approved by the government as long as there religious leaders kicks against it.

See there is no religious institution that is above the government so whichever decision that the federal government makes, it has to be implemented by every citizen of that particular country irrespective of their various religion as no religion superceed the decision of the government.

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One of the things when the world carry know us wela for the world stage be say we de very religious, as a matter of fact, nija follow for one of the first 10 most religious country for the world and I doubt say anybody go fit argue am because an average person for we country be either Christian, Muslim, traditionalist or believe in one thing or the other. Personally, I no see anything when de  wrong to believe in a supernatural power but na how we de take follow am na where the problem take de.

Apart from the fact say our leaders de very bad with there decisions and policies, one of the major problem we de face as a nation na product of religious differences when don separate us and don course serious division for families and between societies.

E get some religion when de restrict her members from doing certain things and even when doing such things go bring food for the table of the person, they will prefer to suffer just to be in obedient to such believe system.

 Apart from the fact say the government no accept Bitcoin for we country, you know say e get certain persons when no go still accept am even if it is approved by the government as long as there religious leaders kicks against it.

I get some cousin sis when no gree go school because for there faith, them no de allow person go university and even when i don try to talk sense into her head at several instances, she no de gree hear me because of The amount of brain washing she done receive from those religious teachers.

I be religious person also but I feel say if person de exposed enough, e go help am to make use of the teachings him de receive from the religious circle in the right way.

Of course, I know say of recent most of our religious organisation don de improve on so many sectors and we don de see them introducing certain things for there programs when de geared towards educating their audience on so many matters as it relate to real life and financial issues and this na a very good thing because, as most of our people don de believe in almost everything these religious leaders de talk, na to push strategies when fit better our country into that angles of the society so them fit use that way influence good policies that would be of benefit to the country.

If churches and mosque begin to talk about saving her offering in bitcoin or even receiving bitcoin as donation into the church or mosque wallet, e no go take time before most government parastetals go have a second thought on advocating for bitcoin adoption in the country.

This is purely my humble opinion and it's open to criticism and discussion.
   The country takes religion more serious than every other factor. I don't know why Nigerians tend to take more serious the words of their spiritual fathers than doing directly what their heart says. They say too much of everything is not good. There's not an issue with the fact that one has a spiritual doctrine or not but as a people we should not always put in this doctrines in judging every random situation. In some cases, these doctrines are not needed but we tend to always involve them in all our endeavors.
   We are such a set of religious people and are so bent to it that every affirmation contrary to our so called religious beliefs will pose a danger to our relationship with people around us thereby leading to conflicts that are unnecessary. We can live as a nation, putting aside every difference and lend a one voice. There ought to be no room for favouritism all because of spirituality whatsoever. We should be united in our dealings, that's actually what will give the beauty in our diversity.
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One of the things when the world carry know us wela for the world stage be say we de very religious, as a matter of fact, nija follow for one of the first 10 most religious country for the world and I doubt say anybody go fit argue am because an average person for we country be either Christian, Muslim, traditionalist or believe in one thing or the other. Personally, I no see anything when de  wrong to believe in a supernatural power but na how we de take follow am na where the problem take de.

Apart from the fact say our leaders de very bad with there decisions and policies, one of the major problem we de face as a nation na product of religious differences when don separate us and don course serious division for families and between societies.

E get some religion when de restrict her members from doing certain things and even when doing such things go bring food for the table of the person, they will prefer to suffer just to be in obedient to such believe system.

 Apart from the fact say the government no accept Bitcoin for we country, you know say e get certain persons when no go still accept am even if it is approved by the government as long as there religious leaders kicks against it.

I get some cousin sis when no gree go school because for there faith, them no de allow person go university and even when i don try to talk sense into her head at several instances, she no de gree hear me because of The amount of brain washing she done receive from those religious teachers.

I be religious person also but I feel say if person de exposed enough, e go help am to make use of the teachings him de receive from the religious circle in the right way.

Of course, I know say of recent most of our religious organisation don de improve on so many sectors and we don de see them introducing certain things for there programs when de geared towards educating their audience on so many matters as it relate to real life and financial issues and this na a very good thing because, as most of our people don de believe in almost everything these religious leaders de talk, na to push strategies when fit better our country into that angles of the society so them fit use that way influence good policies that would be of benefit to the country.

If churches and mosque begin to talk about saving her offering in bitcoin or even receiving bitcoin as donation into the church or mosque wallet, e no go take time before most government parastetals go have a second thought on advocating for bitcoin adoption in the country.

This is purely my humble opinion and it's open to criticism and discussion.

Naturally we all subscribe to one form of religion or the other, everbody, wether you like it or not, wether christian or Muslim, or Buddhist, etheist etc no one person on planet earth is neutral, we all believe in something somewhere but what I really don't agree with is the fact many people think that the kind of religion you practice is what defines your character as a person and I find this very appalling. For example I have come across so many self acclaimed righteous people from different places and from other religious background yet it still doesn't change the fact that these individuals are people of questionable character that's why it is wrong to judge somebody based on their religious background but by their character they possess.

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If churches and mosque begin to talk about saving her offering in bitcoin or even receiving bitcoin as donation into the church or mosque wallet, e no go take time before most government parastetals go have a second thought on advocating for bitcoin adoption in the country.

This is purely my humble opinion and it's open to criticism and discussion.
It would be worst to expect a church to manage the Bitcoin wallet because is going to become an avenue for most of the people that would be in charge on monitoring those transactions to easily stole from the church because the rate at which computer illiterate is very common in the country introducing it in the church may not be a wise decision because those in charge could made away with all the money and claim they were hacked by scammers.

So by using church to accept Bitcoin will never encourage the government to do so but instead they will hate it the more because most people are full of greed and you will be surprise on what they will be using the Bitcoin to do.

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Nigerians are religious freaks, some people in Nigeria are hiding in the name of religion and committing a lot of atrocities, just imagine some politician coming to their locality to tell their people or constituents that some people are not believers of their religion, and because of this, they should not be elected even though they know that what we have here is selection, this politician use this strategy to weaken the mind/heart of their local so that they can rig election freely without obstruction, ordinarily religion would have been a thing that would have changed our mindset to love one another, do things in common because we are coming from one creator who loves us too and this love and one accord is suppose to coexist within us, this religious sentiment would have done more good than bad if not for our leader's behavior.

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It would be worst to expect a church to manage the Bitcoin wallet because is going to become an avenue for most of the people that would be in charge on monitoring those transactions to easily stole from the church because the rate at which computer illiterate is very common in the country introducing it in the church may not be a wise decision because those in charge could made away with all the money and claim they were hacked by scammers.

So by using church to accept Bitcoin will never encourage the government to do so but instead they will hate it the more because most people are full of greed and you will be surprise on what they will be using the Bitcoin to do.
i doubt I ageee with you that people that would be assigned to monitor the transaction willll still the funds. If we consider the conventional way most churches use in saving there money for instance,  the people that are mostly assigned to take care of the money are mostly individual that are of good reputation and it's always on a rear occasion that you will notice that church funds has been stolen from the banks.

If we also consider the part of computer illiteracy being much in the church, I think if you are careful to observe the structure of most churches, you will notice that there are lots of skilled individuals in the church and what most of the churches so is that they assign individual that are good in tye technical aspect of the church work into the technical unit while the ones that are computer literate are assigned mostly into tye media and secretary unit. If bitcoin is being accepted as a medium of making payment in the church/ mosque, it will only take some form sensitization to be done for tye members and the rest of the job would be handled by people that knows about bitcoin in thee church.

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One of the things I learnt while on campus is that there is a difference between religion and spirituality. Religion has to do with the practice of going to church attending several Christian events and the engagement in those things while spirituality is your personal relationship with a divine being which we call God.

What we see in our Nigerian context today is that most Nigerians are very religious but they lack spirituality which is a personal relationship with God their creator. This is why we are the way we are we go to church and mosque but we are not spiritual. Pastors steal, the congratulations are involved in a lot of atrocities. We call God with our mouths but our hearts is far from him.

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One of the things I learnt while on campus is that there is a difference between religion and spirituality. Religion has to do with the practice of going to church attending several Christian events and the engagement in those things while spirituality is your personal relationship with a divine being which we call God.

What we see in our Nigerian context today is that most Nigerians are very religious but they lack spirituality which is a personal relationship with God their creator. This is why we are the way we are we go to church and mosque but we are not spiritual. Pastors steal, the congratulations are involved in a lot of atrocities. We call God with our mouths but our hearts is far from him.
   The country takes religion more serious than every other factor. I don't know why Nigerians tend to take more serious the words of their spiritual fathers than doing directly what their heart says.They say too much of everything is not good. There's not an issue with the fact that one has a spiritual doctrine or not but as a person we should try and be more human in treating others and not being sentimental in judging every random situation.
   In some cases, these doctrines are not needed but we tend to always involve them in all our endeavors. We are such a set of religious people and are so bent to it that every affirmation contrary to our so called religious beliefs will pose a danger to our relationship with people around us thereby leading to conflicts that are unnecessary. We can live as a nation, putting aside every difference and lend a one voice. There ought to be no room for favouritism all because of spirituality whatsoever. We should be united in our dealings, that's actually what will give the beauty in our diversity.
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Omo make we leave religion matter. I remember Karl Marx say religion na the opium of the masses. Pastors dey comot members mind from reality.

No be pastor make members fast to death say dem go see God.

Some pastors self in the name of anointing and miracle go dey baff the female members of the church make dem for dey see their nakedness. Things dey happen for the religious settings.

Politicians go thief finish and go religious houses dem go dey praise dem. Make we just dey use our head and follow our heart because religion folllow keep this country like this because if to say the religious leaders both Christians and Muslims dey advise deir members and expose dem for their embezzlement den tins for no be like this, those politicians na members of one political party or the other.

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Op,  this religion of a thing has turned into something else seriously only Naija has several religions  and beliefs, different people observe different belief and it is now like socialization making it difficult for people who are into  it to treat others as human being because they have acquired this knowledge and belief from when they are tender but somehow I don't blame them because that's what they grew up with. 
However, almost everyone are Xenocentric believers in Naija that is why it is very difficult for things to move well in this country but I think change in environment can be of help.

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Well spoken OP!
Nigerians have a very tight inclination with religion and it related activities. Of course religion serves as a source of truth and guidance for many of the country men and women. In my opinion, the general attitude of the government, religious leaders and common men/women towards religion contribute greatly to how it shaped us and our society. You all could agree with me that religion in our society is like a tool that have been weaponize by various forces ranging from government down to religion leaders and the general populace. Religion in the country is sadly a tool for causing divide, difference and control among the populace.

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Normally, I no dy like to talk about religious matter because we wey be Nigerians, we come carry religion for head like dadar, we come even serious pass isreal and Saudi Arabia wey both of them originate from, just imagine how person go dy sick seriously, base on say no money to go to hospital, instead of the church members to contribute and take that of their member to hospital after prayers, Dem go carry grounfnut oil, in the name of anointing oil, give person mama to drink, last last the sickness go still dy, but when them wey be men of God sick, Dem go go hospital.

Some women dy even respect their pastors more than their husbands, Dem no know say, every body get their role in someone's life, and each of Dem get their own level of respect, no go carry respect you surpose give ur husband use give ur pastor,  if not peace no go rain, as e be so, na only God go help us for we country, because for we country our holiness don pass God own, but na we wicked pass.

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If not the fact that this conversation is Bitcoin related I would have love to point out so many things that aren't helping the society at all based on religion, or religious beliefs.

So many things are messed up not really because of religionism but from the root of Nigeria as a country. Nigeria was never ment to be a country, it's the combination of different countries either 3 countries of 4 that are all ment to be on their own with their own believes that would have help Dem develop but the europeans used this three major religions to scatters us all, the hausas became muslims and can. ot help you except you are a Muslim, Christians the worst of it all they are even against themselves because of what one man of God (self acclaimed) has told them. different church different people. what a confused country this Europeans have created.

Now looking a the religious practices in the country you will notice that if all the capitals spent in building this churches are spent on human capital development, china would not be compared to Nigeria in terms of productivity, dubai would not be compared to Nigeria in terms of beauty. For instance, imagine how many church we have in the country are all turned in to educational centers for children and adults to come learn how to produce anything that is produce able, build skills on each child and the ones that ment for school go to school, just imagine such thing and you will find out religion has rubbed us alot but we are so convinced (brainwashed) by our selfish men of God to only thing of how to put offering and sole seeds.

In regards to Bitcoin adoption perhaps you have a good idea that can lead to Bitcoin adoption in Nigeria but how can they know about Bitcoin when they are business buying lands to build more church in an area where families can not feed properly but the church pastor will have 3 cars, oh what a finished country. In a church there will be pipe burn water but people who lacks water can not fetch it only ment to be catch by its members or their calibers, in mosques people who are Muslims are only allowed to fetch water from the pipe burn water in the environment.

but all this I believe with the rate of awareness people will begin to look outside this and help one another to become successful country.


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Normally, I no dy like to talk about religious matter because we wey be Nigerians, we come carry religion for head like dadar, we come even serious pass isreal and Saudi Arabia wey both of them originate from, just imagine how person go dy sick seriously, base on say no money to go to hospital, instead of the church members to contribute and take that of their member to hospital after prayers, Dem go carry grounfnut oil, in the name of anointing oil, give person mama to drink, last last the sickness go still dy, but when them wey be men of God sick, Dem go go hospital.

Some women dy even respect their pastors more than their husbands, Dem no know say, every body get their role in someone's life, and each of Dem get their own level of respect, no go carry respect you surpose give ur husband use give ur pastor,  if not peace no go rain, as e be so, na only God go help us for we country, because for we country our holiness don pass God own, but na we wicked pass.

Baba in as much as medicine na the cure to sickness, if you no believe in healing then just leave am rather than to dey talk generally without being specific. I know say we don get so many scam wey dey pretend to stand by God, but that no mean say you go talk am like say na general thing. With my own self I don witness healing without taking drugs, but from prayer.

The fact say Nigeria carry religion for head na good thing because, we no know wattin the future holds, serving our creator with joy and dedication na very sweet thing wey you your self go confirm the benefits korokoro, so no talk like that.

Then for the case of woman and their husbands, even the bible talk am clear say the husband naim be the head of a woman no be anybody, so women Dem supposed to dey give their husband that maximum

I no know why them go even bring religion matter come board sef, una they forget say this na general board all religion dey inside, una go just open mouth they talk wattin una brain just just think, they cast una self. No be only our own bad pass so make una stop am. Na so una take dey cast una house matter for outside? Tomorrow una go call una self christians yet una dey here dey talk una believe down. I am ashamed of people posts wey I read for here.

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