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November 24, 2023, 01:17:37 PM
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It isn't bad to be optimistic to make a profit in gambling. I have a friend who is very lucky in gambling and is making it as his source of income while we were still college students back then. It was very helpful for him because he can survive with his daily winnings. He was able to buy his necessities and his wants without having to rely much on his allowance, which made me think that if you are just really knowledgeable, skilled, and lucky enough, you will really make a profit in gambling. Of course, resources play a role too. So maybe it was his initial deposit that paved way to consistent profit.

While I can attest it can indeed work for some, it doesn't necessarily mean that it will work for everyone. Take it with a grain of salt that not everyone can be your forte. Some might make money and even be successful in gambling, while some won't. And that is the reality we can't really control. People have different experiences, financial status, strategies, skills, knowledge, and luck. So it will really vary depending on your approach. If someone badly wants to continuously make money from gambling, of course it will not be easy. It will take time and experience as well as guidance from other gamblers.
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November 24, 2023, 01:37:20 PM
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Sports betting is distinct because it involves real players in actual play; it doesn't rely on an algorithm like a game designed and created by a casino. Therefore, when you have skills, you should avoid games that are solely reliant on luck.
Sports betting requires skills as well as luck, to be honest, you can make shit tons of money only if the underdog beat a champion side or what you call the odds. I mean you need to bet on a team with an odd of 5.69 playing against a team with an odd of 1.21 in a sport it won't happen every day and when that happens you need to bet on that underdog which all comes to the point of luck.

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November 24, 2023, 01:52:40 PM
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As you've read the thread title, I'll continue the explanation here, as it cannot accommodate additional text. I've come across numerous topics and posts where gamblers express disbelief in the idea of consistently making profit through gambling.
The disbelief is because many of them have tried to have the believe that they can consistently win when they gamble, so that believe motivates them to keep trying to gamble, and they keep loosing because of no strategy, no skills. You cannot have just the believe that you will consistently win from gambling, and then do not make any effort to try to develop a strategy and skill for it.

You can consistently win from gambling if just as there is the believe, there is an equal energy to match up to what is required for it, which is a good strategy and improved skills.

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November 24, 2023, 01:58:04 PM
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OP, you must force people to believe that they can use gambling to be successful because it is very rare to see a successful gambler. Recently I have a colleague at work who won $10000 in sportbets and he is keeping it as a secrete because he doesn't want any one to ask him for funds. Only this has convinced me that one can win big with gambling, but this doesn't mean that they have become successful in life.

The reason why I said that they are not successful is because, they might end up using the money to gamble again and wouldn't invest to in order to make them use the money wisely. They will believe that they still still more funds to win and they will be carried away with their greed. It is very hard to see a successful gambler because gambling is based more of luck that skills.

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November 24, 2023, 02:01:03 PM
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There are things you still need to understand about gambling.. being optimistic is not on the side of gambling the main thing is accept reality about gambling. Don't quote me wrong neither I am my quoting you badly rather you are misunderstanding something here, if will asked do you know that this consistent gambling is what actually gives births to addictive gambling?
Yes this is true, as a gambler whenever you always optimistic about the positive outcome you would be tempted to regularly gamble because of trying to break the house of either a higher out come causing to lose hence you don't have any options than to go borrow to gamble. Everyone has a general overview of how they understood gambling rather making someone to have this belief they would make it from gambling or as they constantly gamble they would win, although this depends on personal choice and hunger to make it out through gambling.

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November 24, 2023, 02:06:35 PM
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It's not that there aren't any people who became successful at gambling, it's just that the chances are abysmally low if you consider the huge amount of gamblers out there that there's no point in trying to chase it especially if you consider how the only chance you got being increased is the amount of money you have. The richer you are, the higher the chances (or tries really) that you have to make it big with gambling and at that point, why even bother gambling since you're already rich?

And I guess for tips, it's really just bankroll management. You can't exactly sway the odds in gambling casinos, so it's just how you try to spend money while earning. In sports, it can be a lot easier though since it's based on games outside of luck. It mostly comes down to knowing and reading the game itself. I'd 100% recommend sports on people who budget money, and just pure luck type of games if you can and have the budget for it.

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November 24, 2023, 02:07:37 PM
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As you've read the thread title, I'll continue the explanation here, as it cannot accommodate additional text. I've come across numerous topics and posts where gamblers express disbelief in the idea of consistently making profit through gambling. It makes me question whether these individuals are truly involved in gambling or if they're posting without the real experiences and knowledge. Personally, I firmly believe that there are people who have achieved real success in gambling. What perplexes me is why many discourage gambling as a means of making money. Instead of outright saying no, they could guide gamblers with the right strategies on how to stay disciplined, enhance skills, minimize the risk of bankruptcy, and increase the chances of winning.

If you're someone who doesn't believe anyone can be profitable in gambling, you might as well consider yourself not welcome in this thread. I'm looking for people who maintain optimism about their chances in gambling so they can share valuable insights.

Now, let's hear your opinion. In 3...2...1... go!
First of all, gambling is based on luck and you can't constantly be lucky. It's based on luck because long-term, with traditional gambling, you are going to lose, you only profit when you win jackpot and then isolate yourself from gambling, so, you need luck! House Edge and RTP give casino an advantage over time, just pure mathematics, numbers, you can't enhance your skill in any way to beat slot machine. I just wonder, how are you going to beat it? What kind of skill will help you to get the desired result 777? None.

Just because you wear a signature of casino, that doesn't mean you have to play devil's advocate. No, I don't say casinos are evil or something like that, I am just saying that gamble for fun, that's all. Don't think that you don't have to work and can make a successful career in gambling, no, it's not engineering or sport. If people were to constantly make money from gambling, casinos wouldn't exist.
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November 24, 2023, 02:30:42 PM
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Instead of outright saying no, they could guide gamblers with the right strategies on how to stay disciplined, enhance skills, minimize the risk of bankruptcy, and increase the chances of winning.
Are these the guarantees gamblers can make consistent profit gambling? To be disciplined minimizes the risk of bankruptcy, because the gambler isn't going to play more than he can afford to lose. But to be responsible, plus skilled don't change the fact this is a game of luck, with an enhancer against the gambler, that is the house edge, which prevents the player from overcoming the casino on long term. This is a simple math concept which do really forbids gamblers from winning consistently. You can't deny or go against facts. If it worked like you said, there would be many more winners here sharing their personal experiences.

What can happen is a gambler to be very lucky to hit a huge prize at once, so he will be in profit for the rest of his life, if he manages the earned sum wisely and efficiently. In every cases, it has nothing to do with consistent winnings along several gambling sessions. It's an event once in a million, let's say.

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November 24, 2023, 03:01:58 PM
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The reason why I said that they are not successful is because, they might end up using the money to gamble again and wouldn't invest to in order to make them use the money wisely. They will believe that they still still more funds to win and they will be carried away with their greed. It is very hard to see a successful gambler because gambling is based more of luck that skills.
Yeah it's because they don't have skill.

There's a big difference between a poor person receive $1 Million at once without any effort and a poor person receive $10,000 every month with high effort. The first poor person isn't have an ability to manage his money, so he will use that money for anything that he likes. While the second poor person can change his life because he know it's hard to make money and careful to use his money.

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[....]I've come across numerous topics and posts where gamblers express disbelief in the idea of consistently making profit through gambling. It makes me question whether these individuals are truly involved in gambling or if they're posting without the real experiences and knowledge.
What do you mean by "consistently making profit"? You have to be more specific if that means winning every bet or staying in profit every week or every month.

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Personally, I firmly believe that there are people who have achieved real success in gambling. What perplexes me is why many discourage gambling as a means of making money. Instead of outright saying no, they could guide gamblers with the right strategies on how to stay disciplined, enhance skills, minimize the risk of bankruptcy, and increase the chances of winning.
Yes there are some but at what percentage of the total gambling population? There's nothing wrong with being optimistic but you cannot really make an argument for the extreme minority. The chances of losing in the long run is high so it would be more practical to just say that upfront so the new gamblers know what they are getting into. If they are still interested after that then they can be guided with the basics.
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Personally, I firmly believe that there are people who have achieved real success in gambling. What perplexes me is why many discourage gambling as a means of making money. Instead of outright saying no, they could guide gamblers with the right strategies on how to stay disciplined, enhance skills, minimize the risk of bankruptcy, and increase the chances of winning.

If anyone wants to profit on gambling then he/she should keep away on slot games since this game is purely based on luck especially those high volatility slot game like Hacksaw. I lose a lot of money on slot even though I rarely play it but sometimes I won big too that makes me just breakeven or in minor loss. Skills on gambling is only applicable some games like sportsbet, poker and blackjack while the rest of the gambling games is based on luck which is almost impossible to become successful in profit in the long run.

I really like the optimistic part because that's what I always do before I gamble to maintain my cool headed mind. Gambling is not a money maker but an entertainment maker. it's really possible to make money here but there's always a chance to lose it all at some point because the RTP of the game will always kicks in.

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November 24, 2023, 03:42:43 PM
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As you've read the thread title, I'll continue the explanation here, as it cannot accommodate additional text. I've come across numerous topics and posts where gamblers express disbelief in the idea of consistently making profit through gambling. It makes me question whether these individuals are truly involved in gambling or if they're posting without the real experiences and knowledge. Personally, I firmly believe that there are people who have achieved real success in gambling. What perplexes me is why many discourage gambling as a means of making money. Instead of outright saying no, they could guide gamblers with the right strategies on how to stay disciplined, enhance skills, minimize the risk of bankruptcy, and increase the chances of winning.

If you're someone who doesn't believe anyone can be profitable in gambling, you might as well consider yourself not welcome in this thread. I'm looking for people who maintain optimism about their chances in gambling so they can share valuable insights.

Now, let's hear your opinion. In 3...2...1... go!

This is a general forum that promotes freedom of speech and everyone is free to express himself based on personal experience or other learning experience. If you ask ten gamblers the same question I am sure that you might have five to six different answers. Hence your gambling experience is different from mine which is why you will not get the same response. Nobody is discouraging people from gambling but the truth should always be told. It is possible to have consistently wins for a long period but you and I know that sometimes you lose your bet. There are sometimes you become so unlucky that you might win nothing for months but we always hope that the future will be better that's why we keep gambling.

The qualities OP listed are very important in gambling. Every gambler needs to be disciplined by having a plan on how to manage time and money. Without learning and improving on betting skills gamblers might not be able to win bets. Having and strictly following a gambling budget will limit uncontrollable gambling thereby reducing the chances of bankruptcy.

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November 24, 2023, 03:43:19 PM
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The ugly truth is that most persons acknowledge these losses but they're optimistic that one day they could be lucky and their big win might be able to cover for their losses.  


Lol unfortunately the deed keeps happening. It takes someone who has a lot of control to stop gambling especially when you are now in this state of chasing back your losses. Truth to this is that to get to a jackpot is very difficult to get to. I know gamblers who have been saying they can only quit when they have recovered to a great extent their losses and so it keeps happening to them as if they are watching some movie. This has been the gambling story and the reason many believe it is just a lucky games.
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The ugly truth is that most persons acknowledge these losses but they're optimistic that one day they could be lucky and their big win might be able to cover for their losses.  


Lol unfortunately the deed keeps happening. It takes someone who has a lot of control to stop gambling especially when you are now in this state of chasing back your losses. Truth to this is that to get to a jackpot is very difficult to get to. I know gamblers who have been saying they can only quit when they have recovered to a great extent their losses and so it keeps happening to them as if they are watching some movie. This has been the gambling story and the reason many believe it is just a lucky games.

If a person has a state of mind that he will chase and recover this loss, and then quit gambling, in that case, i am afraid that it is not possible at all because the gamblers will usually never recover their losses and this way, they may never be able to cut the gambling. Yes, they may win some games and but then they will lose more games and in a nutshell, they will always remain in a loss. The only exception to this is if someone gets a jackpot which may recover all their previous losses.

I think as the gamblers get experienced, they will understand that making consistent income is impossible in gambling and only the new gamblers may have this feeling which they will change over the passage of time.

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Personally, I firmly believe that there are people who have achieved real success in gambling. What perplexes me is why many discourage gambling as a means of making money.

Now, let's hear your opinion. In 3...2...1... go!

Your suggestion is that people can go underwater for 30 minutes straight with no equipment, yes it's possible and done by one or two individuals it doesn't mean it's an ideal situation for everyone that rule is what applies here too. You can make money in gambling which is true but making money from gambling consistently isn't possible or least from my personal experience.

I won't suggest anyone to to start gambling if they are looking for a way to make money.
With this topic, it is technically true. A gambler COULD be successful in gambling 'coz there are people already who did. But the idea of caution against such mindset in gambling is also valid. How many people do you think, have lost huge money in gambling? Also with stories that some gamblers needed to sell some of their properties just to pay their debt in gambling loss. The idea here is that, you could be successful in gambling but there's always a tendency for you to lose; which makes gambling, a "gamble" of your luck. You have to do things 'right' if you want to succeed in this industry. Things won't happen in an instance and easily. Problem is that people are assuming of an instant jackpot which makes them greedy and frustrated of their way in this industry.

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November 24, 2023, 04:15:03 PM
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There are indeed some people who have achieved real success from gambling, but it's still not ideal to advice people to solely depend on gambling alone for income. It is true that some gamblers do make consistent income from gambling, but then, this is just their luck, as we still have people also who play gambling consistently and still end up with nothing.

In the end, it all boils down to what works for one, some people have that luck of winning in gambling, while there are those who don't have such luck, if you are among those who have such luck, then utilize it, help as many as you can and be happy.
But if you are someone who does not have such luck, then it's better not to force, get something else doing as a main source of income and only play gambling when ever you have money you can afford to lose.

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November 24, 2023, 05:15:03 PM
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If you're someone who doesn't believe anyone can be profitable in gambling, you might as well consider yourself not welcome in this thread. I'm looking for people who maintain optimism about their chances in gambling so they can share valuable insights.

Now, let's hear your opinion. In 3...2...1... go!

Based on fact, many people are not profitable since they have start gambling, it's just the truth, saying they don't belong here is like telling them to lie about their gambling experience, it's been over a year that I have been gambling with hard earned money but my experience is not that satisfying, I can boldly say that gambling isn't that profitable for me because I lose more money than I've win, I have my happy days in gambling but not enough to cover up all I've lost in the past, maybe this could change in the future I don't know, but now this is the reality that I am facing with gambling.

The reality you don't want to hear or listen to from gamblers like you, tell me, how is your gambling journey so far? If it's going smooth for you then you are born to be very lucky, just make sure you accept the fact that not everyone will be as lucky as you are, and don't be too proud of it either.

Thanks to my bankroll management skill, if not, maybe I would have gone broke, there is no gambling strategy that seem to work for me than me using what I can afford to lose, in fact I have turned my gambling activities into something I do for fun, I have channeled my energy into creativity and other things, I have a dream of building something that everyone in the world will use someday, that kinda dream, so I am a less active gambler who enjoy doing it for fun sake only, maybe if you have a better strategy you can share with us.
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November 24, 2023, 05:36:21 PM
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Most gamblers do not believe they can consistently make money, that's why...
That's why, many of us here have varied experiences in gambling, maybe you think gambling can produce results consistently, of course that's your experience, but not for some others, gambling is a disaster for their lives consistently, gambling is good for you and bad for other people.

If everyone involved in gambling here could make good money, of course we would never see complaints about this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0, because it is consistent.

The point is: I've been gambling for years, never making consistent profits, instead all I get is winning and losing, that's what I felt while I was doing gambling activities and it didn't just happen to me personally, my friends who have been gambling for years also had the same fate.

OP, I would love to see your screenshots of your 1,2,3 consecutive winnings in gambling for one day, in several types of bets that you place, if you can show maybe other people don't think about the opinion about gambling, unfortunately I have never found those who produce consistently.

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November 24, 2023, 05:43:24 PM
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As the point goes, no matter how experienced a gambler is, he cannot make a profit by gambling consistently. He applies all his experience to his gambling but if luck does not help him then he will be defeated by his luck.

Sometimes we witness some events that we would not have understood if it had not happened to us. If you are a gambler I don't think you can say you have ever won consistently. Maybe you have a record of multiple gains but those gains were never consistent. I still gamble quite cautiously and I tend to gamble more on the ones I have a higher chance of winning but it still happens that I have a lot of accidents that result in us losing a certain win. So it is difficult to accept that a gambler has consistently won money.

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November 24, 2023, 06:17:24 PM
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Do you know that there are a lot of gamblers that have win hug amount of money but they still end up losing more than what they won.
Just in a few days, a friend of mine won good amount of money from gamble but didn't use it to do anything, why because as you are a gambler, there are some kind of money that you will have but you will like or want to use it to gamble.
If you can use your salary to gamble, do you think that you will be say not to gamble with the same money you win? (No you are not).
A lot of gamblers are in such position that's why they find it difficult to withdraw the money they win from gamble and do something good for them self.
One can make better money from gambling but he might still finds it difficult to use it to do something for him or her self, it is not only the addicted gambler that are doing this but both the new gamblers too, imagine you are a new gambler won a million box of dollars just at your first stake or your first prediction, you will still try to win more because at that point in time, you will he thinking that you can win more money to the previous one.

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