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December 08, 2023, 06:05:45 PM
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Indeed, it is a business and of course, the house doesn't let gamblers win more than their profit. If we lose, it doesn't mean that the house is cheating on us but instead, we accept the fact that this is how gambling looks like were only get lucky and win the prize while more gambler lose their money. That is why if we think that gambling is a good way of making money, then we have not to do that because that is impossible. Only the house and casino owners make money while gamblers (us) only get fun and experience.
I do not know why to some gamblers find this is so difficult to understand, every single business out there needs to obtain profits to keep their doors open, if you go to a restaurant it is obvious the restaurant is charging you more for the food and the drinks than the actual costs that went into making them, and no one really complains about it, but when it comes to the casinos many gamblers think it is unfair for the casino to give themselves an edge, something that does not really make sense.

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December 08, 2023, 07:11:28 PM
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Indeed, it is a business and of course, the house doesn't let gamblers win more than their profit. If we lose, it doesn't mean that the house is cheating on us but instead, we accept the fact that this is how gambling looks like were only get lucky and win the prize while more gambler lose their money. That is why if we think that gambling is a good way of making money, then we have not to do that because that is impossible. Only the house and casino owners make money while gamblers (us) only get fun and experience.

That's a fact but unfortunately only a small percentage of gamblers are aware of this, casinos are businesses owned by bookmakers, their goal is to make a profit from losing gamblers, and that's a big reason why most gamblers lose more often than they win. There are no free dinners for gamblers, everything costs money and requires sacrifice, it is very difficult to win if you only contribute with one bet, it is quite impossible and you will only win when you have lost several bets.

Therefore, never carry the assumption or idea that you come to earn, it's nothing more than you want to trap yourself unknowingly. Casinos have complicated and unpredictable algorithms, the systems they apply to gambling can make you lose your mind subconsciously and that is why many gamblers are stuck on a cycle of chasing losses to chase the almost impossible break-even point. There is no other way to get better unless you can be sincere with all that you have lost, this is a very important understanding that all gamblers especially beginners must understand that gambling is not a place to earn.

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December 08, 2023, 07:25:14 PM
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Gambling is a double edged 2 sided bet, I mean there is a 50% chance of winning and a 50% chance of losing.
I don't seem to agree with you totally on this because the percentages are not exactly like this. 50-50 is only for games like dice, single bets and dual option games. The percentage is totally different for accumulators and sharply increase against winning as the number of accumulations increases.

So gambling is rarely 50% chance of winning and 50% chance of losing because the probability of losing is far higher and increases as the odds also increases.  At some point, it is even safer to put the percentage of losing as high as 80%. This is why a good plan of action is needed to remain in profits. With a good plan in place, few winnings should be able to cover many loses and still ensure player is in profit.



Gambling as we know is designed to mostly favor the casino,  so saying the chances of winning and loosing is the same is what I cannot agree with, if you check vry well the rates of losses is way more higher than the wins in the gambling world, which probs the ods of loosing is higher. The only way I believe that one can truly make more profits is to be on the receiving side, that is to own a casino yourself, that way you're sure of making steady income from gambling.

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December 08, 2023, 08:25:28 PM
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Gambling is a double edged 2 sided bet, I mean there is a 50% chance of winning and a 50% chance of losing.
I don't seem to agree with you totally on this because the percentages are not exactly like this. 50-50 is only for games like dice, single bets and dual option games. The percentage is totally different for accumulators and sharply increase against winning as the number of accumulations increases.

So gambling is rarely 50% chance of winning and 50% chance of losing because the probability of losing is far higher and increases as the odds also increases.  At some point, it is even safer to put the percentage of losing as high as 80%. This is why a good plan of action is needed to remain in profits. With a good plan in place, few winnings should be able to cover many loses and still ensure player is in profit.



Gambling as we know is designed to mostly favor the casino,  so saying the chances of winning and loosing is the same is what I cannot agree with, if you check vry well the rates of losses is way more higher than the wins in the gambling world, which probs the ods of loosing is higher. The only way I believe that one can truly make more profits is to be on the receiving side, that is to own a casino yourself, that way you're sure of making steady income from gambling.
The natural truth is that making consistent profits in gambling is very hard. We need to understand that so we don't deceive ourselves that making consistent profits is easy and everyone can achieve that. We need to know that not everyone can achieve making consistent profits in the betting so when we find ourselves making loses, we should not see it as a wrong time or there is something we are not doing well. Sometimes we might keep trying adjusting bets to fit the manner that would bring profits to us and we might never make that profits due to so many factors.

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December 08, 2023, 09:01:23 PM
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As you've read the thread title, I'll continue the explanation here, as it cannot accommodate additional text. I've come across numerous topics and posts where gamblers express disbelief in the idea of consistently making profit through gambling. It makes me question whether these individuals are truly involved in gambling or if they're posting without the real experiences and knowledge. Personally, I firmly believe that there are people who have achieved real success in gambling. What perplexes me is why many discourage gambling as a means of making money. Instead of outright saying no, they could guide gamblers with the right strategies on how to stay disciplined, enhance skills, minimize the risk of bankruptcy, and increase the chances of winning.

If you're someone who doesn't believe anyone can be profitable in gambling, you might as well consider yourself not welcome in this thread. I'm looking for people who maintain optimism about their chances in gambling so they can share valuable insights.

Now, let's hear your opinion. In 3...2...1... go!

It's definitely possible, but only under certain conditions: good examples are pro poker players and sports betting gurus. So in order to make consistent profit you'll need lots of experience, skill, expertise, talent etc. It's certainly not for everyone.
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December 08, 2023, 11:51:52 PM
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Gambling is a double edged 2 sided bet, I mean there is a 50% chance of winning and a 50% chance of losing.
I don't seem to agree with you totally on this because the percentages are not exactly like this. 50-50 is only for games like dice, single bets and dual option games. The percentage is totally different for accumulators and sharply increase against winning as the number of accumulations increases.

So gambling is rarely 50% chance of winning and 50% chance of losing because the probability of losing is far higher and increases as the odds also increases.  At some point, it is even safer to put the percentage of losing as high as 80%. This is why a good plan of action is needed to remain in profits. With a good plan in place, few winnings should be able to cover many loses and still ensure player is in profit.



Gambling as we know is designed to mostly favor the casino,  so saying the chances of winning and loosing is the same is what I cannot agree with, if you check vry well the rates of losses is way more higher than the wins in the gambling world, which probs the ods of loosing is higher. The only way I believe that one can truly make more profits is to be on the receiving side, that is to own a casino yourself, that way you're sure of making steady income from gambling.

By papers 50/50 is what we believe but in terms of incoming profits, casino was designed to earn with H.E  they always have that money to earn when gamblers uses their platforms, I see exactly what you are pointing and we all know that if chances happen you can win but there's always emotions that influence the outcome.

If you are good in terms of controlling your emotion, you will earn but if you are not good on that surely you'll lose a lot.

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December 15, 2023, 06:24:48 PM
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As you've read the thread title, I'll continue the explanation here, as it cannot accommodate additional text. I've come across numerous topics and posts where gamblers express disbelief in the idea of consistently making profit through gambling. It makes me question whether these individuals are truly involved in gambling or if they're posting without the real experiences and knowledge. Personally, I firmly believe that there are people who have achieved real success in gambling. What perplexes me is why many discourage gambling as a means of making money. Instead of outright saying no, they could guide gamblers with the right strategies on how to stay disciplined, enhance skills, minimize the risk of bankruptcy, and increase the chances of winning.

If you're someone who doesn't believe anyone can be profitable in gambling, you might as well consider yourself not welcome in this thread. I'm looking for people who maintain optimism about their chances in gambling so they can share valuable insights.

Now, let's hear your opinion. In 3...2...1... go!

It's definitely possible, but only under certain conditions: good examples are pro poker players and sports betting gurus. So in order to make consistent profit you'll need lots of experience, skill, expertise, talent etc. It's certainly not for everyone.
Becoming a professional gambler is definitely not for everyone, many gamblers have the dream of leaving their jobs and becoming a gambler, a dream that in a way surprises me as professional gamblers do not have a fixed salary they can get each month, with the possibility of not getting anything or even losing money for a longer period of time than that, and most people will be unable to deal with a situation like that so it should be better for them if they gave up on such an unrealistic dream.

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December 15, 2023, 06:28:44 PM
 #188

As you've read the thread title, I'll continue the explanation here, as it cannot accommodate additional text. I've come across numerous topics and posts where gamblers express disbelief in the idea of consistently making profit through gambling. It makes me question whether these individuals are truly involved in gambling or if they're posting without the real experiences and knowledge. Personally, I firmly believe that there are people who have achieved real success in gambling. What perplexes me is why many discourage gambling as a means of making money. Instead of outright saying no, they could guide gamblers with the right strategies on how to stay disciplined, enhance skills, minimize the risk of bankruptcy, and increase the chances of winning.

If you're someone who doesn't believe anyone can be profitable in gambling, you might as well consider yourself not welcome in this thread. I'm looking for people who maintain optimism about their chances in gambling so they can share valuable insights.

Now, let's hear your opinion. In 3...2...1... go!

It's definitely possible, but only under certain conditions: good examples are pro poker players and sports betting gurus. So in order to make consistent profit you'll need lots of experience, skill, expertise, talent etc. It's certainly not for everyone.
Becoming a professional gambler is definitely not for everyone, many gamblers have the dream of leaving their jobs and becoming a gambler, a dream that in a way surprises me as professional gamblers do not have a fixed salary they can get each month, with the possibility of not getting anything or even losing money for a longer period of time than that, and most people will be unable to deal with a situation like that so it should be better for them if they gave up on such an unrealistic dream.
Professional gambler would really be just be able to fit into those people who are really that dealing with strategic type of games like sports betting and some card games on which this would really be that a matter of skills and experience towards it on which there would really be those individuals who could really actually be able to make a living with it. This is why some gamblers would really be trying out to reach out that kind of success but just like been said that it isnt for everyone and this is why it wouldnt really be that a good idea if you are trying out to reach out that kind of
position or condition because you would be finding yourself that too desperate. This isnt something to be applicable into those games who do really relying heavily on luck on which
it is really that not ideal if you do pursue out on things which are impossible to happen.

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December 15, 2023, 08:09:20 PM
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Personally, I firmly believe that there are people who have achieved real success in gambling. What perplexes me is why many discourage gambling as a means of making money. Instead of outright saying no, they could guide gamblers with the right strategies on how to stay disciplined, enhance skills, minimize the risk of bankruptcy, and increase the chances of winning.

For sure there are lots of gamblers already that achieved in success in gambling. There is no doubt about that.

But that kind of fortune can't be applied to everyone here in gambling world. It's good for me to discourage others from doing gambling and let their curiosity find the answer why other people are like that. These successful gamblers don't have to guide gamblers with the right strategies. I mean, why they should spend time on that? It's not their obligation to do that because in the first place, I'm sure most of them didn't go that way but instead they worked for it that's why they achieved success.

Let these successful gamblers just enjoy where they are now. These newbie gamblers on the other hand should worked on their way up.
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December 15, 2023, 08:26:12 PM
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As you've read the thread title, I'll continue the explanation here, as it cannot accommodate additional text. I've come across numerous topics and posts where gamblers express disbelief in the idea of consistently making profit through gambling. It makes me question whether these individuals are truly involved in gambling or if they're posting without the real experiences and knowledge. Personally, I firmly believe that there are people who have achieved real success in gambling. What perplexes me is why many discourage gambling as a means of making money. Instead of outright saying no, they could guide gamblers with the right strategies on how to stay disciplined, enhance skills, minimize the risk of bankruptcy, and increase the chances of winning.

If you're someone who doesn't believe anyone can be profitable in gambling, you might as well consider yourself not welcome in this thread. I'm looking for people who maintain optimism about their chances in gambling so they can share valuable insights.

Now, let's hear your opinion. In 3...2...1... go!
If I don't see gambling as a profitable one, then I should not be gambling in the first place. It's useless to stay on what you're doing when you don't even have faith on it. Those who fail to achieve profits in gambling are clearly not real gamblers, and they don't even know how to win an edge in gambling, most probably they are not patient enough to wait for their luck to favor on them.

Hearing disbeliefs from gamblers are actually normal, most especially for those who have suffered from consistent losses. But if they kept acting that way, I suggest they better stop gambling if they want to live without losses.
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December 15, 2023, 09:34:14 PM
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As you've read the thread title, I'll continue the explanation here, as it cannot accommodate additional text. I've come across numerous topics and posts where gamblers express disbelief in the idea of consistently making profit through gambling. It makes me question whether these individuals are truly involved in gambling or if they're posting without the real experiences and knowledge. Personally, I firmly believe that there are people who have achieved real success in gambling. What perplexes me is why many discourage gambling as a means of making money. Instead of outright saying no, they could guide gamblers with the right strategies on how to stay disciplined, enhance skills, minimize the risk of bankruptcy, and increase the chances of winning.

If you're someone who doesn't believe anyone can be profitable in gambling, you might as well consider yourself not welcome in this thread. I'm looking for people who maintain optimism about their chances in gambling so they can share valuable insights.

Now, let's hear your opinion. In 3...2...1... go!

I believe that someone really wins big in gambling, it's true. There are successful people and I can also say that I am one of them because even if the winnings are small, as long as you win in gambling and avoid losing big, I can say that you are successful in gambling. Experience will shape you, help you win.

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I believe that someone really wins big in gambling, it's true. There are successful people and I can also say that I am one of them because even if the winnings are small, as long as you win in gambling and avoid losing big, I can say that you are successful in gambling. Experience will shape you, help you win.
You are right, there are gamblers who have really won big in gambling and there are gamblers who have been successful but we will never know how much gambling capital they have spent gambling because gamblers tend to hide their total losses and they will show off low profits. However, my opinion is that successful gamblers have made high profits but they withdraw all the profits and still gamble within the limits of funds, they do not gamble on all types of gambling but focus on sports gambling that has been analyzed to have a high chance of winning, successful gamblers can also handle risk of loss and not force them to gamble if they feel hesitant to bet.

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December 15, 2023, 09:51:52 PM
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You are right, there are gamblers who have really won big in gambling and there are gamblers who have been successful but we will never know how much gambling capital they have spent gambling because gamblers tend to hide their total losses and they will show off low profits. However, my opinion is that successful gamblers have made high profits but they withdraw all the profits and still gamble within the limits of funds, they do not gamble on all types of gambling but focus on sports gambling that has been analyzed to have a high chance of winning, successful gamblers can also handle risk of loss and not force them to gamble if they feel hesitant to bet.
Yes, that makes sense. A different scenario would just keep him in the same situation, meaning he loses again after winning. There are gamblers who can win bets consistently, but I think the ratio is 1:1000, if there is one. All skill-based betting categories have a higher chance of winning than others, but to win all bets consistently they require 100% luck.

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December 15, 2023, 10:05:56 PM
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I believe that someone really wins big in gambling, it's true. There are successful people and I can also say that I am one of them because even if the winnings are small, as long as you win in gambling and avoid losing big, I can say that you are successful in gambling. Experience will shape you, help you win.
You are right, there are gamblers who have really won big in gambling and there are gamblers who have been successful but we will never know how much gambling capital they have spent gambling because gamblers tend to hide their total losses and they will show off low profits. However, my opinion is that successful gamblers have made high profits but they withdraw all the profits and still gamble within the limits of funds, they do not gamble on all types of gambling but focus on sports gambling that has been analyzed to have a high chance of winning, successful gamblers can also handle risk of loss and not force them to gamble if they feel hesitant to bet.

What do you mean, people who are successful in gambling are those who know how to control themselves? It's not necessary to win a large amount of money.
Yes, that's it. Even if you win big in gambling, you won't be a success if you don't know how to control yourself. I have seen people win big and continue to gamble with all the money they just won. And they lost everything. They even borrow money to continue wanting to get back the money they lost. I also won, and I bet big again. The result is no different. Therefore, successful people in gambling are those who know how to stop at the right time, no matter whether you win or lose.

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You are right, there are gamblers who have really won big in gambling and there are gamblers who have been successful but we will never know how much gambling capital they have spent gambling because gamblers tend to hide their total losses and they will show off low profits. However, my opinion is that successful gamblers have made high profits but they withdraw all the profits and still gamble within the limits of funds, they do not gamble on all types of gambling but focus on sports gambling that has been analyzed to have a high chance of winning, successful gamblers can also handle risk of loss and not force them to gamble if they feel hesitant to bet.
Yes, that makes sense. A different scenario would just keep him in the same situation, meaning he loses again after winning. There are gamblers who can win bets consistently, but I think the ratio is 1:1000, if there is one. All skill-based betting categories have a higher chance of winning than others, but to win all bets consistently they require 100% luck.

And luck oftentimes can't be found around.  So this means that it is impossible to win consistently in gambling.  What is worse is that chance-based gambling solely rely on luck so we see people who are playing these chance-based games often deplete their bankroll and rarely wins huge amount of money.  I believe the trigger point to be on the positive end on gambling is the ability to control ones self and bankroll.

As we all know lossing in gambling is way more frequent but it can be recovered by a single huge win.  So controlling oneself and bankroll management is the key to keeping our gambling venture in the green side.  Know when to stop is the key.  If we feel luck is not on our side in our session, it is better call it a day than push things out.  This way we can minimize losses while maintaining a healthy bankroll.

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December 16, 2023, 11:15:06 AM
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As we all know lossing in gambling is way more frequent but it can be recovered by a single huge win. 
That's not what I want to experience in gambling. With that kind of strategy, you rely so much on luck so you can win big and you'll be in profit, as for me, I like to enjoy a slow and consistent winning in gambling, but as what most people have shared, this doesn't happen to us, so I'm here trying to prove it's possible but only until I can show some proof.


So controlling oneself and bankroll management is the key to keeping our gambling venture in the green side.  Know when to stop is the key.  If we feel luck is not on our side in our session, it is better call it a day than push things out.  This way we can minimize losses while maintaining a healthy bankroll.

Green side means profit for you? Well, bankroll management alone could not help, there's a lot more to consider particularly on being smart in choosing your bet, and of course choosing the right game for you.

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December 16, 2023, 01:38:54 PM
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You are right, there are gamblers who have really won big in gambling and there are gamblers who have been successful but we will never know how much gambling capital they have spent gambling because gamblers tend to hide their total losses and they will show off low profits. However, my opinion is that successful gamblers have made high profits but they withdraw all the profits and still gamble within the limits of funds, they do not gamble on all types of gambling but focus on sports gambling that has been analyzed to have a high chance of winning, successful gamblers can also handle risk of loss and not force them to gamble if they feel hesitant to bet.
Yes, that makes sense. A different scenario would just keep him in the same situation, meaning he loses again after winning. There are gamblers who can win bets consistently, but I think the ratio is 1:1000, if there is one. All skill-based betting categories have a higher chance of winning than others, but to win all bets consistently they require 100% luck.

And luck oftentimes can't be found around.  So this means that it is impossible to win consistently in gambling.  What is worse is that chance-based gambling solely rely on luck so we see people who are playing these chance-based games often deplete their bankroll and rarely wins huge amount of money.  I believe the trigger point to be on the positive end on gambling is the ability to control ones self and bankroll.

As we all know lossing in gambling is way more frequent but it can be recovered by a single huge win.  So controlling oneself and bankroll management is the key to keeping our gambling venture in the green side.  Know when to stop is the key.  If we feel luck is not on our side in our session, it is better call it a day than push things out.  This way we can minimize losses while maintaining a healthy bankroll.
It's important to keep in mind that gambling should not be a means to an end, but rather a pleasure. We are entering perilous territory the instant it becomes more than a game and less than a fun way to win large. Have you ever observed that experienced gamblers frequently have a cool, composed attitude? They understand that gambling is a journey rather than a sprint. Bankroll management is a lifeline, not just a tactic. It's critical to exercise strict financial discipline. Has the saying "Don't put all your eggs in one basket" ever occurred to you? That is relevant in this case. It's critical to diversify plays, establish clear boundaries, and stick to them. It's all about the long game, not about victories or loses in each session. Have you given any thought to establishing a win/loss cap for every session? It's a wise decision. You're not simply gambling by doing this; you're also planning. Making thoughtful decisions is important, not just winging it. Recall that knowing when to walk away is just as important as knowing when to play

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December 16, 2023, 02:56:01 PM
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As we all know lossing in gambling is way more frequent but it can be recovered by a single huge win. 
That's not what I want to experience in gambling. With that kind of strategy, you rely so much on luck so you can win big and you'll be in profit, as for me, I like to enjoy a slow and consistent winning in gambling, but as what most people have shared, this doesn't happen to us, so I'm here trying to prove it's possible but only until I can show some proof.
Yes, getting slow wins is possible but it seems very difficult to get consistent wins. We know that winning is not easy so we don't need to hope too much to win. After all, we use gambling only as entertainment but if anyone continues to use gambling to make money, that is up to them and they have to bear the risk. But when we want to recover from defeat, we must realize it will be even more difficult because winning one game or match is not easy. So it's best to avoid trying to get consistent wins because it will be challenging. We should just enjoy the gambling game so we won't get frustrated if we lose.

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December 16, 2023, 03:12:13 PM
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It's important to keep in mind that gambling should not be a means to an end, but rather a pleasure. We are entering perilous territory the instant it becomes more than a game and less than a fun way to win large. Have you ever observed that experienced gamblers frequently have a cool, composed attitude? They understand that gambling is a journey rather than a sprint. Bankroll management is a lifeline, not just a tactic. It's critical to exercise strict financial discipline. Has the saying "Don't put all your eggs in one basket" ever occurred to you? That is relevant in this case. It's critical to diversify plays, establish clear boundaries, and stick to them. It's all about the long game, not about victories or loses in each session. Have you given any thought to establishing a win/loss cap for every session? It's a wise decision. You're not simply gambling by doing this; you're also planning. Making thoughtful decisions is important, not just winging it. Recall that knowing when to walk away is just as important as knowing when to play

If you seek to earn in gambling on a regular basis, you should not strive to do everything to get a big win. It is better to consistently get small winnings - it is through stability you can become a good player. Through stability develops a sense of confidence and calculation
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As you've read the thread title, I'll continue the explanation here, as it cannot accommodate additional text. I've come across numerous topics and posts where gamblers express disbelief in the idea of consistently making profit through gambling. It makes me question whether these individuals are truly involved in gambling or if they're posting without the real experiences and knowledge. Personally, I firmly believe that there are people who have achieved real success in gambling. What perplexes me is why many discourage gambling as a means of making money. Instead of outright saying no, they could guide gamblers with the right strategies on how to stay disciplined, enhance skills, minimize the risk of bankruptcy, and increase the chances of winning.

If you're someone who doesn't believe anyone can be profitable in gambling, you might as well consider yourself not welcome in this thread. I'm looking for people who maintain optimism about their chances in gambling so they can share valuable insights.

Now, let's hear your opinion. In 3...2...1... go!

I believe there are gamblers who are able to generate consistent income from gambling.
But the question is whether the amount of money he holds is enough to support the consistency of his game?
Most people hope to consistently win at gambling, then use the results to meet their living needs.
In my opinion, a consistent gambler is a gambler who has money specifically allocated for gambling, he will not use money for family needs and will not even use borrowed money.

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