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[pinkfloyd]

I got another question if someone could help me.   When I did the bump fee on the bluewallet, a new transaction was created and the old was gone.    I have another bitcoin transaction from last week that I didn't bump fee becausee I wasn't in a hurry to receive it.   I just checked that transaction and mempool shows that it has been replaced by another transaction with 13 confirmations.  Someone did a RBF.  I checked my wallet, the fund isn't there and pending transaction disappeared.    What happened to the fund that I'm supposed to receive?

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[Charles-Tim]

I got another question if someone could help me.   When I did the bump fee on the bluewallet, a new transaction was created and the old was gone.    I have another bitcoin transaction from last week that I didn't bump fee becausee I wasn't in a hurry to receive it.   I just checked that transaction and mempool shows that it has been replaced by another transaction with 13 confirmations.  Someone did a RBF.  I checked my wallet, the fund isn't there and pending transaction disappeared.    What happened to the fund that I'm supposed to receive?

You mean you want to receive coins on Electrum, but it is unconfirmed, later you did not see the transaction? What would have caused that is that the transaction which you did not see again got replaced. Increasing the transaction fee will make the old transaction become invalid. I thought you know that already. Also a transaction can drop from mempool in a way the coin can be spent again in another transaction which can also cause it.

[pinkfloyd]

I got another question if someone could help me.   When I did the bump fee on the bluewallet, a new transaction was created and the old was gone.    I have another bitcoin transaction from last week that I didn't bump fee becausee I wasn't in a hurry to receive it.   I just checked that transaction and mempool shows that it has been replaced by another transaction with 13 confirmations.  Someone did a RBF.  I checked my wallet, the fund isn't there and pending transaction disappeared.    What happened to the fund that I'm supposed to receive?

You mean you want to receive coins on Electrum, but it is unconfirmed, later you did not see the transaction? What would have caused that is that the transaction which you did not see again got replaced. Increasing the transaction fee will make the old transaction become invalid. I thought you know that already. Also a transaction can drop from mempool in a way the coin can be spent again in another transaction which can also cause it.

Yes, I understand that the once the sender increased the transaction fee the old transaction was invalid.   It's replaced by another transaction that got confirmed.   But the fund isn't in my wallet.   does it take a while for the fund to appear?

[Charles-Tim]

Yes, I understand that the once the sender increased the transaction fee the old transaction was invalid.   It's replaced by another transaction that got confirmed.   But the fund isn't in my wallet.   does it take a while for the fund to appear?

If you did not double-spend the coins in a new transaction, in which the transaction is not replaced, you will still be able to see the unconfirmed or confirmed transaction. Check your transaction history on the wallet and see that no transaction was made unknowingly to you.

[hosseinimr93]

Yes, I understand that the once the sender increased the transaction fee the old transaction was invalid.   It's replaced by another transaction that got confirmed.   But the fund isn't in my wallet.   does it take a while for the fund to appear?

Note that it's possible to replace an unconfirmed transaction with a new one paying higher fee and sending the fund to a different address.
Check the replacement transaction on a block explorer and see if the receiving address is same as the replaced transaction.

[khaled0111]

I have another bitcoin transaction from last week that I didn't bump fee becausee I wasn't in a hurry to receive it.   I just checked that transaction and mempool shows that it has been replaced by another transaction with 13 confirmations.  Someone did a RBF.  I checked my wallet, the fund isn't there and pending transaction disappeared.    What happened to the fund that I'm supposed to receive?

Your wallet balance is supposed to be updated as soon as your wallet knows about the incoming transaction.
Does the transaction mempool says it replaced your original unconfirmed transaction appears in your wallet's transaction history tab?
If not then the sender has bumped it and sent the coins to a different address. Are you sure you didn't spend those coins yourself?
On mempool check if the receiving address and the amount are the same as for the original transaction.

[pinkfloyd]

No, I didn't spend the money.   My receiving address shows zero on all lines "received" "sent" "balance", 

[pinkfloyd]

I have another bitcoin transaction from last week that I didn't bump fee becausee I wasn't in a hurry to receive it.   I just checked that transaction and mempool shows that it has been replaced by another transaction with 13 confirmations.  Someone did a RBF.  I checked my wallet, the fund isn't there and pending transaction disappeared.    What happened to the fund that I'm supposed to receive?

Your wallet balance is supposed to be updated as soon as your wallet knows about the incoming transaction.
Does the transaction mempool says it replaced your original unconfirmed transaction appears in your wallet's transaction history tab?
If not then the sender has bumped it and sent the coins to a different address. Are you sure you didn't spend those coins yourself?
On mempool check if the receiving address and the amount are the same as for the original transaction.

the transanction mempool does show a replaced transaction, but my wallet doesn't show any history of it.     Can i post the transaction on here and have you guys take a look?

[hosseinimr93]

the transanction mempool does show a replaced transaction, but my wallet doesn't show any history of it.    

As I said in my previous post, it's possible that the replacement transaction has been made to a different address.
If the receiving address used in the replacement transaction doesn't belong to your wallet, it's normal that the transaction is not displayed in your wallet.

Do you know the sender? Maybe, you got scammed.

Can i post the transaction on here and have you guys take a look?

Yes, post your transaction ID.

[pinkfloyd]

the transanction mempool does show a replaced transaction, but my wallet doesn't show any history of it.    

As I said in my previous post, it's possible that the replacement transaction has been made to a different address.
If the receiving address used in the replacement transaction doesn't belong to your wallet, it's normal that the transaction is not displayed in your wallet.

Do you know the sender? Maybe, you got scammed.

Can i post the transaction on here and have you guys take a look?

Yes, post your transaction ID.

It's not a scam.  It's a payout from a sportsbook.   here's the transaction ID. 

0a17046452462d68882f4cda2007d17a5a17029336e8ef1cbe06599ae377b927

[hosseinimr93]

The transaction is no longer valid.

There were two receiving addresses in the transaction in question. bc1qyetavzj5a626hn9knws6v3feas2mjm54yck06x and bc1q6wk6ld89e7k2ezma0wqxeqh4awxth68w0z5u9r
One of these two addresses is owned by you. Right?

If so, you haven't received any fund and the only thing you can do now is to contact the sender and tell them the withdrawal transaction is not valid.

[pinkfloyd]

The transaction is no longer valid.

There were two receiving addresses in the transaction in question. bc1qyetavzj5a626hn9knws6v3feas2mjm54yck06x and bc1q6wk6ld89e7k2ezma0wqxeqh4awxth68w0z5u9r
One of these two addresses is owned by you. Right?

If so, you haven't received any fund and the only thing you can do now is to contact the sender and tell them the withdrawal transaction is not valid.

yes, the second address is mine.  I've contacted the sender, but it's not going anywhere.  They use a third party processor for payouts.

[logfiles]

It's not a scam.  It's a payout from a sportsbook.   here's the transaction ID.  

0a17046452462d68882f4cda2007d17a5a17029336e8ef1cbe06599ae377b927

The inputs in the first transaction were spent in the second transaction and sent to two addresses that are not the same as the first address you might have entered when trying to withdraw, hence the zero balance in your wallet, so I suggest you contact the sportsbook about this error so that they rectify it.

Show them the address you wanted the funds to go to and where the funds have ended up.

Here is the second transaction; https://mempool.space/tx/94936255061c32136136b6d330a707dcabc31bdc5717b7a38afcc2c3324e822d

They use a third party processor for payouts.

Do you know about the payment processor?

[pinkfloyd]

It's not a scam.  It's a payout from a sportsbook.   here's the transaction ID.  

0a17046452462d68882f4cda2007d17a5a17029336e8ef1cbe06599ae377b927

The inputs in the first transaction were spent in the second transaction and sent to two addresses that are not the same as the first address you might have entered when trying to withdraw, hence the zero balance in your wallet, so I suggest you contact the sportsbook about this error so that they rectify it.

Show them the address you wanted the funds to go to and where the funds have ended up.

Here is the second transaction; https://mempool.space/tx/94936255061c32136136b6d330a707dcabc31bdc5717b7a38afcc2c3324e822d

They use a third party processor for payouts.

Do you know about the payment processor?

I dont know much about the processor.  I can't contact them.   I can only talk to the sportsbook.   The problem is that it is showing the payout got processed on the sportsbook side and its very difficult trying to explain to them because as little i know about crypto i'm an expert compared to them.
  but I've asked them to ask the processor to review it.   

[logfiles]

I dont know much about the processor.  I can't contact them.   I can only talk to the sportsbook.   The problem is that it is showing the payout got processed on the sportsbook side and its very difficult trying to explain to them because as little i know about crypto i'm an expert compared to them.
  but I've asked them to ask the processor to review it.   

This should be the responsibility of the sportsbook, though (If you don't mind, what's the name of the sportsbook? I could help give you some guidelines on how to open a dispute.)
The point is, the Bitcoins never arrived to the wallet you had entered on withdrawal. They should be able to sort their mess if all you stated here is true.

Blockchain.com explorer shows the first invalid transaction containing your deposit address. That should be a good starting point for your argument.

[pinkfloyd]

I dont know much about the processor.  I can't contact them.   I can only talk to the sportsbook.   The problem is that it is showing the payout got processed on the sportsbook side and its very difficult trying to explain to them because as little i know about crypto i'm an expert compared to them.
  but I've asked them to ask the processor to review it.   

This should be the responsibility of the sportsbook, though (If you don't mind, what's the name of the sportsbook? I could help give you some guidelines on how to open a dispute.)
The point is, the Bitcoins never arrived to the wallet you had entered on withdrawal. They should be able to sort their mess if all you stated here is true.

Blockchain.com explorer shows the first invalid transaction containing your deposit address. That should be a good starting point for your argument.

I spoke with them again and the customer rep said the processor is reviewing it...it's progress.   The invalid transaction was a good starting point.   

[logfiles]

I spoke with them again and the customer rep said the processor is reviewing it...it's progress.   The invalid transaction was a good starting point.   

Yeah, sure, I hope everything works out in your favor. Please do not hesitate to update us here on how thing worked out for you or not, and it would also be great to know what crypto sportsbook that is so that members can avoid it (that is, if they refuse to process for you your funds)

[khaled0111]

I can only talk to the sportsbook.   The problem is that it is showing the payout got processed on the sportsbook side and its very difficult trying to explain to them because as little i know about crypto i'm an expert compared to them.

You don't really need much technical knowledge on how cryptocurrencies work to explain your problem to them.
I assume the transaction ID you mentioned in one of your previous posts is the one the sportsbook gave to you and it's supposed to be the id of the withdrawal transaction, right?
Are you certain the address (the one you gave to them to recieve your withdrawal) is one of the two receipient addresses that appears on mempool.space?
If yes, then they did send you the coins and the problem is at your end.
if not then you need to contact them and tell them to give you the id of the transaction sending to your address.

[hosseinimr93]

If yes, then they did send you the coins and the problem is at your end.

No. That wasn't pinkfloyd's fault.
According to what pinkfloyd said, he/she requested a withdrawal to bc1q6wk6ld89e7k2ezma0wqxeqh4awxth68w0z5u9r and the following transaction was made to process that.

0a17046452462d68882f4cda2007d17a5a17029336e8ef1cbe06599ae377b927

But the same coins were spent in other transactions and that transaction is now invalid.

[pinkfloyd]

I appreciate everyone's help.  I've learned a lot from you guys.   They just fixed the issue and paid me a few minutes ago.   I'm unlucky because the payout from 10 days ago was for .223 btc , but since the price of bitcoin has gone up  so it's .192 btc today...lost out about $1300.  But I'm just glad I got paid.