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November 26, 2023, 11:34:41 AM
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  When I joined the forum newly I felt it was mostly concerning Bitcoin and making money from it, at some point I tried to act faster than my shadow by rushing to gain merits and move into the next rank, but with time I discovered I was wrong and there were a lot to learn in the forum asides Bitcoin, so I took my time to go through ethics and norms of the forum and even seek help from senior forum members, however I'm pleased to say that I don't  regret joining this forum cause there are lots of  informations and knowledge  I've gained from it, therefore I urge all newbies to learn from it as well, do not be in a haste to know about everything or move to the next rank without knowing the basics of what you're doing, the beginners and help board is the perfect place to learn and ask questions that would guide you through your journey here, as well as knowing where and where not to post.
  It is best to take baby steps to be able to fully understand the full context of the forum, and  ask questions when experiencing difficulties in the forum, the forum is a community and we are all here to share ideas and solutions, we work better as a team, of course abiding to the rules and regulations of the forum, would help as well, there are a lot to learn from the forum and lots of great ideas shared within the space with just mere asking the right questions you can achieve success from the forum.
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November 26, 2023, 12:31:28 PM
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I would say that haste is generally very rarely useful. It is clear that you need to try to get used to the forum if you want to communicate on it, because you are joining an already existing community with its own rules. "When in Rome, do as the Romans do."

But here you are talking about opening up the earning opportunities that Bitcoin offers. But in this, too, haste can lead to the fact that you may not earn, but lose. It is important to understand everything and only then begin to act actively.

So the call to take your time is good in almost any undertaking.
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November 26, 2023, 12:53:51 PM
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A major fact that applies to life in general that most people have refused to adhere to is "Everything has time" this does not only work here but in life generally, but in the case of Bitcointalk forum newbies are mostly found rushing to meet up with some who have been here for a long time.

Maybe it could a caused by the circumstances in which they heard about forum, like someone introducing the forum as a place they can earn instead of learn thereby omitting the L, Hence they start trying to rank up in order to start earning. Undermining the fact that people who are ranked up spent a very long time to learn and as a result of lessons learnt they ranked up. For the purpose of rushing to rank up has led to different negative results some could be positive if they took corrections but some negative due too spamming and other fact like plagiarism etc.

To any newbie who might be reading, stay positive and use the search button regularly and find answers to what you wish to learn. The forum have lasted over a decade and more so almost everything you which to talk about has been talk about so to avoid things like plagiarism search if it has been treated and grow gradually.

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November 26, 2023, 03:40:20 PM
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To any newbie who might be reading, stay positive and use the search button regularly and find answers to what you wish to learn. The forum have lasted over a decade and more so almost everything you which to talk about has been talk about so to avoid things like plagiarism search if it has been treated and grow gradually.

The first advice should be treat it as free place where you need to learn and maybe later help others on some difficulties. Just has you said almost everything has been treated before but still you will see some threads still getting merits because of the efforts newbies put out to that thread. The thing that gets most newbie either finding it hard to rank up or not later got caught for plagiarism is by teaching what they don’t know.

Ranking up doesn’t mean you need to create threads everyday, your posts can get you the merits you need ti rank once you learn properly first.

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November 26, 2023, 05:35:07 PM
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Ironically almost all Newbies wants to rank up and earn and with their vague knowledge will later opt to using Ai in creating post or  plagiarising, which when they are account are usually banned or given a negative tag. Those who later persevere to learn here will later earn and achieve things they never expected.
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November 26, 2023, 06:09:59 PM
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  When I joined the forum newly I felt it was mostly concerning Bitcoin and making money from it, at some point I tried to act faster than my shadow by rushing to gain merits and move into the next rank, but with time I discovered I was wrong and there were a lot to learn in the forum asides Bitcoin, so I took my time to go through ethics and norms of the forum and even seek help from senior forum members, however I'm pleased to say that I don't  regret joining this forum cause there are lots of  informations and knowledge  I've gained from it, therefore I urge all newbies to learn from it as well, do not be in a haste to know about everything or move to the next rank without knowing the basics of what you're doing, the beginners and help board is the perfect place to learn and ask questions that would guide you through your journey here, as well as knowing where and where not to post.
  It is best to take baby steps to be able to fully understand the full context of the forum, and  ask questions when experiencing difficulties in the forum, the forum is a community and we are all here to share ideas and solutions, we work better as a team, of course abiding to the rules and regulations of the forum, would help as well, there are a lot to learn from the forum and lots of great ideas shared within the space with just mere asking the right questions you can achieve success from the forum.

Merit is not all the thing. But is the useful in the forum. We can't say that we didn't need merit and it is of no use.

Still we can gain information through these forums even if we didn't have a single merit also we can join various talks and discussions and get our own benefits through these topics which we need.

My trading knowledge was so weak at the start but then I started to joining these forums discussions and now I'm almost aware most of the things that is to be done through the forums.

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November 26, 2023, 06:30:33 PM
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People have different learning ability, some are fast learners some are quite slower learners so it depends on the individual, I believe in personal growth and if we are truthfully we all know how our growth level in the forum has come up but greed and hunger to earn has forced many to go faster than their comprehension.

My suggestion is keep learning I don't care what your brain capacity is but consistency on the path to knowledge would definitely bear fruit at the end.

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November 26, 2023, 08:20:08 PM
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These threads are helpful but I doubt newbies pay any attention to them. It’s just full member and other high rank discussing on this thread.  There are plenty threads guiding newbies how to act on the forum. But all are ignited because newbies want to rank up as fast as possible, that’s every newbie’s goal. I don’t think it’s about signature campaigns or bounties that motivates the drive to rank up. They want to discard the newbie title and feel like a part of the community. I believe it’s a ego thing.

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November 26, 2023, 08:42:36 PM
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Learning does not happen in an instant. Some may even take years before they can say that they are well-knowledgeable on the forum. There's always a process and always know that this process is never easy but certainly hard and tough but you can always learn to enjoy the process while its giving you handful of information and is making you on top of others, even though competition is not encourage in the forum.

The only reason I think why people rush their learning in the forum is because of their greed to make quick and early profits. But once they get there, all they experience is frequent losing that they're even advised to get back to the basic and learn patiently.

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November 26, 2023, 08:43:05 PM
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The truth is, many newbies joined the Bitcointalk forum just to make money and not with the pure intent of learning or contributing to the growth of the forum. This explains the reason for the rush. They want to quickly catch up with the reason they joined the forum in the first place. This can be risky as they may end up going against the forum rules and of course we know this comes with consequences.

A newbie is supposed to be a novice,  someone who has very little or no knowledge about a particular field they've just entered. The right thing to do at this point is to learn first. What ever notion you joined the forum with needs to kept aside first for you to give way for self development. Open your mind to learning then merits and ranks will come naturally.

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November 26, 2023, 09:21:31 PM
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Yes. It's kind of funny how most newbies here want to move up quick and make money. I've seen it happen a bunch of times.  Folks join with such big dreams but limited skills.  They want success fast, so they cheat.  After facing consequences some leave frustrated while others decide to put in the effort to grow legitimately.  And later, goes to show hard work pays off eventually.

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November 26, 2023, 10:22:09 PM
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I think Satoshiprinces said it all; there was no better way I could have explained it than that. Most newbies fail to understand that in here there is no one in competition with any of them; all that matters is being yourself, and it will all be cool. Trying so hard for you to rank up to the next rank so that you can start feeling among other higher rank makes really no sense. Some are active, but some fail along the line.
  
No doubt a lot of them are in here for the pay, but if we are to talk about the pay alone, then some newbies could have been able to bring down their heads in order to understand how to really get down to those pay. It's not just about copying another person's style or trying to appear everywhere with almost no meaningful information to pass to the public; it's either a duplicated thread or a repeated question.
 
The most funny part of it all is that many of them don't come back to their thread to check if there are solutions provided for the question that they have asked, which is why most of them ask almost the same question over and over without a number in a different thread.

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November 27, 2023, 02:26:56 PM
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This forum is like you are in a school to study, where you are to start from the least class to learn the basics and also to read on your own for proper understanding so that you can improve yourself. It is impossible for you to start rushing in school, for instance because you want to become a nurse, and you know that after you have graduated, there is job sown awaiting you and you decided to only attend the first semester without proper seriousness and you don't care about attending the second semester and you want to jump to year three. It will be impossible.

This is impossible because learning and promotion is a gradual process or else you will have nothing to show that you went to school. The forum is a place for one to grow gradually and your growth is based on what you have learnt, because when you don't dedicate some of your time to learn, you will not grow. Newbies should put making money first in their mind because this will be a big distraction to them and they wouldn't want to stay focus to learn but rather they will be looking for every means to get merits without improving themselves so that the merits can start flowing in.

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November 27, 2023, 02:42:15 PM
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Instead of trying to quickly rank-up your account to join signature campaigns,  currently it is best for all newbies to find a way to buy Bitcoin quickly. If the price rises to more than $100,000 during the next 16 months, then every dollar you invest now may be worth $4 in the future, and you can easily buy Bitcoin again at the bottom of the current cycle, therefore, for every beginner, signature campaigns are appropriate at the end of each cycle and after the price begins to correct, and it is not good as bitcoin Halving approaches.

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November 27, 2023, 02:55:33 PM
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Instead of trying to quickly rank-up your account to join signature campaigns,  currently it is best for all newbies to find a way to buy Bitcoin quickly. If the price rises to more than $100,000 during the next 16 months, then every dollar you invest now may be worth $4 in the future, and you can easily buy Bitcoin again at the bottom of the current cycle, therefore, for every beginner, signature campaigns are appropriate at the end of each cycle and after the price begins to correct, and it is not good as bitcoin Halving approaches.

Agreed, but they can do both at the same time. If they are newbies now, they can use the forum responsibly without worrying too much about climbing the ranks but doing it little by little nonetheless, and also save what they can to invest in bitcoin and take advantage of the bull run. I think it's completely compatible.

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November 27, 2023, 05:06:51 PM
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Instead of trying to quickly rank-up your account to join signature campaigns,  currently it is best for all newbies to find a way to buy Bitcoin quickly.
But does most of us have that kind of money to invest? I don't think so. Personally I don't. Bitcointalk has users from all over the world. And you'll be surprise to know that, in some parts of the world people are sustaining their family only throughout the signature campaign. If I were in America or Canada or other developed countries 150$/week would be a mere pocket money for me (just saying you know), but if I were in a developing country like Bangladesh for me, 150$/month is a massive amount for me. For this reason, users from lower income countries tends to rank up rushing and joins signature campaigns. My point of view.  Wink

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November 27, 2023, 07:36:10 PM
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  When I joined the forum newly I felt it was mostly concerning Bitcoin and making money from it, at some point I tried to act faster than my shadow by rushing to gain merits and move into the next rank, but with time I discovered I was wrong and there were a lot to learn in the forum asides Bitcoin, so I took my time to go through ethics and norms of the forum and even seek help from senior forum members

The intention with which you first arrive at a place will determine how you act in that place.  However, if you seek to learn deeply, you will discover that there are other things more important to know about than what brought you there. The knowledge one can gain in this forum cannot be overstated; it is a school full of knowledge and reliable information to help you become a better bitcoin enthusiast. When you're open to learning frequently, you just have to love the forum as time passes.

Instead of trying to quickly rank-up your account to join signature campaigns,  currently it is best for all newbies to find a way to buy Bitcoin quickly.
But does most of us have that kind of money to invest? I don't think so. Personally I don't. Bitcointalk has users from all over the world. And you'll be surprise to know that, in some parts of the world people are sustaining their family only throughout the signature campaign. If I were in America or Canada or other developed countries 150$/week would be a mere pocket money for me (just saying you know), but if I were in a developing country like Bangladesh for me, 150$/month is a massive amount for me. For this reason, users from lower income countries tends to rank up rushing and joins signature campaigns. My point of view.  Wink

As you have stated, this is correct. But I think what he's trying to say is that if they can invest some money in it, they'll be able to reap a bigger profit later than they would have gotten from a signature campaign altogether their stay there. If they have another source of money and can invest as little as possible in bitcoin, ranking up should be their secondary goal while first learning how to keep their bitcoin investments safe while learning that from exploring the forum.

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November 27, 2023, 09:04:13 PM
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I think Satoshiprinces said it all; there was no better way I could have explained it than that. Most newbies fail to understand that in here there is no one in competition with any of them; all that matters is being yourself, and it will all be cool. Trying so hard for you to rank up to the next rank so that you can start feeling among other higher rank makes really no sense. Some are active, but some fail along the line.
  
No doubt a lot of them are in here for the pay, but if we are to talk about the pay alone, then some newbies could have been able to bring down their heads in order to understand how to really get down to those pay. It's not just about copying another person's style or trying to appear everywhere with almost no meaningful information to pass to the public; it's either a duplicated thread or a repeated question.
 
The most funny part of it all is that many of them don't come back to their thread to check if there are solutions provided for the question that they have asked, which is why most of them ask almost the same question over and over without a number in a different thread.
   Very true, some even lack the patience of working hard to build their profile, and those that are money driven will head up making irrational mistakes thereby putting their account in jeopardy. There are due process in following up the forum. With gradual progress and guidance you will end up making it to the top of the forum. The forum is more of just being yourself and sharing your ideas. Everyone has a different opinion to the view of things, we come here to share those opinions educate ourselves as well.
   Newbie should be more about learning the basics of the forum instead of being money driven. Understand your way around the forum. The Do’s and Don’t of the forum, and not just being everywhere. Personally I feel like we all had a Guardian one way or the other giving us helpful tips about the forum. We definitely have those who personally take it upon themselves to guide the newbie, answering what ever questions they might be having trouble with. It is important for newbie to understand that they can’t  skip the process, they just need to follow the trend.
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November 27, 2023, 09:18:51 PM
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It all depends on your orientation before to joining this forum, which I am sure determined your aim on this forum. In certain countries, the economic situation is quite poor, with no work for graduates and no money for upkeep, thus in quest of anything to do, some people stumble across this forum, possibly through someone or the internet. Usually, the intention is to learn bitcoin so that you do not get scammed, but when you see people making money from the forum through signature campaigns and other means, knowing that you are looking for a way to make money, you will want to join them, which is why you start looking for ways to rank up and get more exposure to start earning as others.

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It all depends on your orientation before to joining this forum, which I am sure determined your aim on this forum. In certain countries, the economic situation is quite poor, with no work for graduates and no money for upkeep, thus in quest of anything to do, some people stumble across this forum, possibly through someone or the internet. Usually, the intention is to learn bitcoin so that you do not get scammed, but when you see people making money from the forum through signature campaigns and other means, knowing that you are looking for a way to make money, you will want to join them, which is why you start looking for ways to rank up and get more exposure to start earning as others.

For newcomers who can't easily rank up as it is quite difficult now because of the merit system,
do remember that there are other ways to earn money aside from participating in sig campaigns.
If you have other skills such as programming, being a graphic artists and others (as you can see in services section),
you can also look for those opportunities and offer what you think you can do.
It may be hard from the start but as you build your portfolio, people will look for you and ask for your services.
Also, there is trading, staking or mining that you can venture but definitely, you need to learn also on how to do these things.
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