sMerit should be sent out in 2's to allow for 1 sMerit to be born

[wallet4bitcoin]

I understand the merit system in the forum is not to be appealed for as it violates the very understanding and purpose of the merit system, hence, I am not directly or indirectly appealing for it and I also made a comment to state what should trigger merits as I believe it conforms to the norms of the forum.

The merit system is awarded based on meaningful contribution but not being a source of merit limits one from awarding merits in some cases. One must get two merits from a source for one sMerit to be birthed and only then can one send sMerit to a quality post.

The merit sources can not reach everyone/every board in the forum at all times as they are few  but people who have received more than one merit can send out sMerit to posts/comments in various boards much easier and faster, it becomes a division of labour in the forum and the merit system circulation will flow easily.

I didnt give much attention to merit sending and I am not the only one in this shoe, which is actually a fact stated by LTU_btc  in this comment until a few days ago when I came across a thread about merits and it struck me, I promised I was going to pay attention to merit system after that day and I started by giving out a few I had, and I noticed that giving 1 merit didn't mean much as compared to when I gave more. I got 2 merits from comments and posts from the likes of Cryptomultiplier, Pmalek, Pooya87 and Truthlovecoins although I also got 1 merit in two different posts from JayJuanGee which also helped to birth another. These merits helped increase my sMerit which is what helps me reachout to quality posts even better and that has changed my perspective after I did brainstorm on it.

I'm grateful for the knowledge I have now about the merit system and all those who have helped me arrive at this juncture. Henceforth, I will take it upon myself to scout the forum in search of quality and informed content and ensure the merit in my custody is appropriated in accordance with this stated concern.


Conclusively, I suggest merits should be sent in 2's by sources and others rather than 1, to enable sending to other quality posts possible and easier.

Just my humble opinion and suggestion and not an appeal for merit in anyway.




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[Helena Yu]

What's the point of this thread? alright you've learn a new thing about merit and it's good to make you familiar with the forum's system, now what?

Even you don't have sMerit and see there's a post deserved to be merited, you can report it here [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source

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No suggestions in the topic, which makes it not necessary. I think OP just want to post something/topic today and posted this. But it has nothing useful.

Now he add it.

Conclusively, I suggest merits should be sent in 2's by sources and others rather than 1, to enable sending to other quality posts possible and easier.

Not necessary, giving sMerit doesn't mean the user who receive it must pass to other user.

[_act_]

What's the point of this thread? alright you've learn a new thing about merit and it's good to make you familiar with the forum's system, now what?

No suggestions in the topic, which makes it not necessary. I think OP just want to post something/topic today and posted this. But it has nothing useful.

[BenCodie]

Conclusively, I suggest merits should be sent in 2's by sources and others rather than 1, to enable sending to other quality posts possible and easier.

I am quite sure that if you receive 1 merit from one user on Tuesday, then another single merit from another user on Friday, on Friday you will have 1 sMerit to spend.

In other words, you do not need to accrue 2 merits in one go to gain 1 sMerit. You will receive 1 sMerit per 2 that you accumulate, no matter when you accrue the 2 individual merits.

The suggestion will probably not be implemented, and since (as far as I know) this is how the system works, there is really no need for it.

I'm sorry you wasted your time creating this thread 

[hugeblack]

Personally, I send 2, 4, 6, sometimes 3 and 5, so I rarely send a single Merit for a high-quality post.
Everyone can help whatever they can, but unless you are a merit source, then your help is limited.
Your suggestion is good, but it varies from one user to another. and if it is difficult for you to obtain more sMerit, then suggest any posts that deserve merits to merit sources.

[DdmrDdmr]

<…> Conclusively, I suggest merits should be sent in 2's by sources and others rather than 1, to enable sending to other quality posts possible and easier <…>

Well, theoretically, if a post is decent enough it could receive multiple sMerit TXs from different people, which would lead to a similar effect per se, be it by accumulation on a single post, or by accumulation over multiple posts. Obviously giving out 2 sMerits per post has a potential quicker possibility of generating sMerits for the recipient to send over to others, but each person has his own scale of thoughts on how much to award, some being in ranges way above 1 sMerit/post on average.

This is a summary of everyone’s sMerit/TX habits during 2023 insofar:
https://public.tableau.com/shared/XN6SJC685?:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link
You’ll notice that there is quite a mix, ranging from averages of 1,03 to 10,72 in the top tier of sMerit senders.

sMeriting habits are going to depend both on personal preferences/scales and the amount of sMerits available, combined with time on the forum and a certain degree of tacticism (specially from accounts with few sMerits available).

[un_rank]

Conclusively, I suggest merits should be sent in 2's by sources and others rather than 1, to enable sending to other quality posts possible and easier.

To my understanding, the primary goal of the merit system is to reward quality posts, smerits were created as a consequence of necessity, to make it possible for merits to continually be sent after the initial airdropped merits, merit sources were also created to help this on.

Users have the option to give out 2, 6, 10 or 50 merits to a user at a particular time, but should not be burdened with what smerits are generated or what the user does with them after. If we get to a point where merits in circulation drops massively more merit sources will be added to complement the system.

Merit sources should merit based on their quality judgement, if a post earns 1 or 50 merits, they should give it to the user.

- Jay -

[LoyceV]

I suggest merits should be sent in 2's by sources and others rather than 1, to enable sending to other quality posts possible and easier.

That makes no sense. If you receive 2 Merits, you have 1 sMerit to give. Based on your suggestion, you would still have to wait until you receive 2 more Merits before you can send 2 Merits by yourself.
Adding complications doesn't improve the Merit system.

[un_rank]

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In their defense, sources do not have to wait to get merits before they can give (unless they have run out or source merits), and the suggestion only includes merit sources.

- Jay -

[Majestic-milf]

I didnt give much attention to merit sending and I am not the only one in this shoe, which is actually a fact stated by LTU_btc  in this comment until a few days ago when I came across a thread about merits and it struck me, I promised I was going to pay attention to merit system after that day and I started by giving out a few I had, and I noticed that giving 1 merit didn't mean much as compared to when I gave more. I got 2 merits from comments and posts from the likes of Cryptomultiplier, Pmalek, Pooya87 and Truthlovecoins although I also got 1 merit in two different posts from JayJuanGee which also helped to birth another. These merits helped increase my sMerit which is what helps me reachout to quality posts even better and that has changed my perspective after I did brainstorm on it.

Wow, good for you! Well, it still doesn't change anything. Users here would give merits how it suits them and if I've noticed how sone users dole their merits, some give in twos and after a period of time, give another set of twos. This pattern is peculiar to @DdmrDdmr meanwhile others have their ways but it doesn't mean your sMerit won't come. Sometimes, after about two or three users must have merited you say 1 merit each, you end up having 1 sMerit and  for me it doesn't make any sense for you to "suggest" how one should give his/her merits.

[EarnOnVictor]

First, I wonder why a Senior Member like you would not know how the merit system works, that means you have not been paying attention to the forum's rule which should have been the first thing to read. Regardless, it's nice that you now know and I hope you will send the ones you have judiciously.

But for the number of merits to be sent, I think it's 100% self-discretion based. The merit sources need to check the worth of that quality post to ascertain the best merits for it.

Although, this is not often applicable, still, it's not all posts that are worth 2 merits and above, and it's not all posts that should be down-appreciated with just 1 merit.

[LoyceV]

In their defense, sources do not have to wait to get merits before they can give (unless they have run out or source merits), and the suggestion only includes merit sources.

Good point, I missed the "sources" in my own quote. But still, it's better to leave it up to the sources. In that case, OP should complain to theymos:

If they complain about amounts, tell them to complain to me.

It's best if sources try to exhaust their source allocations, even if it means giving posts higher amounts than is typical. If you have 150 source merit and you only see 3 merit-worthy posts in a month, then I'd rather you over-give each of them 50 merit than let the merit expire. That way there are more people capable of sending merit, and the "merit economy" is less top-down.

As a Merit source, I started by giving one at a time. Nowadays I mostly give 4 or more, because I can't keep up with less. So it will depend on the user's source amount.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I understand the merit system in the forum is not to be appealed for as it violates the very understanding and purpose of the merit system, hence, I am not directly or indirectly appealing for it and <snip ca ca>

I'm sorry OP, but I have to stop right here and give you a suggestion: if you're creating a thread to ask a simple question or to address an issue that doesn't require a ton of elaboration, don't blow up your first post like a blimp, i.e., fill it with all of this bloated nonsense.  Especially if your grasp of English is tenuous.

What's the point of this thread?

It's a very thinly-veiled merit grab attempt.  That's it.

[wallet4bitcoin]

That makes no sense. If you receive 2 Merits, you have 1 sMerit to give. Based on your suggestion, you would still have to wait until you receive 2 more Merits before you can send 2 Merits by yourself.

I understand that every 2 merits recieved births 1 sMerit!

My post was birthed from my active engagement of merit issuance in the past 4-5 days and targeted majorly at sources and  not everyone.

Not everyone will have 2 merits to gratify posts with, and they shouldn't wait for 4 merits to enable them send out two merits also. Logically, they are not included in this context.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

I join those who say that this thread is pointless, and at best an unfruitful attempt to gain merit. I have reported it for 'long post but low value', so it should at least be locked, if not trashed, as I think Meta should be a particularly clean section of the forum.  We will see how that goes.

[EFS]

My post was birthed from my active engagement of merit issuance in the past 4-5 days and targeted majorly at sources and  not everyone.

Not everyone will have 2 merits to gratify posts with, and they shouldn't wait for 4 merits to enable them send out two merits also. Logically, they are not included in this context.

Most merit sources already send 2 or even number of merits to increase circulation but you can't force any source to send 2 or more merits.
Don't try to dictate what sources do. If you want you can apply for being a merit source and if you are accepted you can send merits however you want.

[Cryptomultiplier]

It is a brilliant suggestion OP, because merits seem harder to accumulate if they aren't sent in 2s. There is however no hard and fast rule to sending out merits in 2s unless you make it a point of concern and enact it on your own.

It would also make more sense to consider that seniors in the forum be restricted to sending at the least, 2 merits mostly to the newbies and lower ranking members.