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December 07, 2023, 08:38:00 PM
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While we keep reminding them not to gamble if they can't afford it and they don't have money to gamble. Much better for them to simply stop and don't do anything at all because aside from losing, if they're going to have ways to gamble.
Then, it's easier to have ways not to gamble because you have no reason for it and you have no money at all. You're just going to complicate things when you ask for a loan to gamble.
Yep. If there is no safe money for gambling anymore, the best way is to stop temporarily. Why we must try to continue gambling if we use unsafe money, right? Gambling isn't a safe place to risk money, no guarantee to win the prizes. Even we tend to lose money because the chance to win is quite small, specifically for the luck-based games.

Sure, no reason for gambling if we risk ourselves, it won't be fun anymore. I think we only can gamble as long as it bring an entertainment for us. Although people must expect money from gambling, fun should be an important part in gambling. If gambling never bring the entertainment and we never feel fun during playing gambling, so why we keep gambling? It is true that we shouldn't lead ourselves into a complicated situation in gambling.


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December 07, 2023, 09:23:18 PM
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While we keep reminding them not to gamble if they can't afford it and they don't have money to gamble. Much better for them to simply stop and don't do anything at all because aside from losing, if they're going to have ways to gamble.
Then, it's easier to have ways not to gamble because you have no reason for it and you have no money at all. You're just going to complicate things when you ask for a loan to gamble.
Yep. If there is no safe money for gambling anymore, the best way is to stop temporarily. Why we must try to continue gambling if we use unsafe money, right? Gambling isn't a safe place to risk money, no guarantee to win the prizes. Even we tend to lose money because the chance to win is quite small, specifically for the luck-based games.

Sure, no reason for gambling if we risk ourselves, it won't be fun anymore. I think we only can gamble as long as it bring an entertainment for us. Although people must expect money from gambling, fun should be an important part in gambling. If gambling never bring the entertainment and we never feel fun during playing gambling, so why we keep gambling? It is true that we shouldn't lead ourselves into a complicated situation in gambling.
We can gamble if we want to as long as the money that will be gambled is ours and not from anyone or someone else or from loan.

That's where those gamblers get it wrong when they think of loaning to gamble because that's already a mistake in the first place. Instead of them making some decisions not to gamble with a money that should be for other things.

They're adding some burden to themselves by borrowing and using it for gambling. The fun might be there but it is no fun when you lose and there is the interest that you're obliged to pay.

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December 07, 2023, 09:59:04 PM
Last edit: December 07, 2023, 11:30:50 PM by Sandra_hakeem
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Some people go as far as gambling with loaned money and that doesn't sound right at all... I'm just wondering the pressure I passed through when I borrowed some cash from the bank way back 2017 - I didn't default the loan but I was pressured to the point that I never thought of missing the loan(it wasn't any pressure from the bank..I thought I shouldn't dare to default)...so I'm wondering why someone would borrow money and the next option I'm Thier minds would be spending it on nuisance..

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December 07, 2023, 10:23:27 PM
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Taking out a gambling loan is never the right move. Since there is a matter of profit and loss, once faced with loss and addicted to gambling, it is always risky. I have been gambling for a while and have experienced some losses and gained some benefits. Averaging the losses is high so I am currently taking a break from gambling. People who become emotionally addicted to gambling are more prone to losses.
One of the worst mistakes you will make is taking a loan and gambling. Most of the people who do that are addicted to gambling. People who gamble just for fun will gamble freely, and I am sure they won't be taking a loan just because they want to gamble. If you can take a loan to gamble, the chances of losing money are kind of high because there will be pressure on the gambler, and there are some silly mistakes that the gambler will be making that will lead to losing money. So I notice that addicted gamblers are always losing more because, even when gambling and losing, they will never give up, they will want to keep on gambling till everything is gone.

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December 08, 2023, 03:29:59 AM
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Some people go as far as gambling with loaned money and that doesn't sound right at all... I'm just wondering the pressure I passed through when I borrowed some cash from the bank way back 2017 - I didn't default the loan but I was pressured to the point that I never thought of missing the loan(it wasn't any pressure from the bank..I thought I shouldn't dare to default)...so I'm wondering why someone would borrow money and the next option I'm Thier minds would be spending it on nuisance..

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Actually, everyone knows that borrowing money from the bank just to gamble is the wrong decision and could have bad consequences in the future, but they forget all the risks involved and do whatever they think is right.
But actually there are two main factors that make them dare to borrow money just to gamble.
- The first is the idea that they have job or business that can make money so they think that even if they borrow they can still pay the bills and will not experience difficulties in the future.
- Second, they think they can win and their goals will be realized so that when they win they can immediately return the loan money, but they forget that gambling is full of uncertainty and defeat is always on their side.
These two things make gamblers brave enough to borrow money without considering everything, including the pressure they might feel, but only when they feel the difficulties can they realize all that.

It like when you take out loan and feel various pressures, but after it all over and you feel it, the awareness arises not to do it again.
Experiences and consequences must be truly experienced by gamblers so that they can think and act well.

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December 08, 2023, 03:42:54 AM
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Gambling addiction set back my normal life by 2 years. I am a victim of real experience and I am sharing my real experience with you.  Don't make the same mistake I did.  And never decide to gamble with a loan. If you do, your situation may be similar to mine. so beware of gambling
It's really unfortunate to hear this from you. The feeling of loss is incredibly tough, especially when it affects your life and family. I've had a somewhat similar experience in the past, though not as severe as yours since I didn't have a family back then, and the losses I incurred could be recovered in a few months of work.

I'm sure your current state of mind is filled with regret, and I hope this won't happen again. However, I know that a few months down the line, when things stabilize, there might be a different mindset, and there's a chance you might be drawn to gambling again. So, I hope you have a long-term plan for repaying debts and avoiding a repeat of this mistake.

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December 08, 2023, 04:02:31 AM
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Sometimes we become blind for a moment when faced with our biggest enemy, namely greed when gambling, the average gambler has experienced this, and I have too. We become like hypocrites because on the one hand we give advice not to take gambling seriously, but we gamble without thinking about the impact in the future. But what can we do, the rice has become porridge, we cannot turn back time and we can only deal with the problem as best we can. I hope the best for you.

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December 08, 2023, 05:55:50 AM
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Some people go as far as gambling with loaned money and that doesn't sound right at all... I'm just wondering the pressure I passed through when I borrowed some cash from the bank way back 2017 - I didn't default the loan but I was pressured to the point that I never thought of missing the loan(it wasn't any pressure from the bank..I thought I shouldn't dare to default)...so I'm wondering why someone would borrow money and the next option I'm Thier minds would be spending it on nuisance..

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Actually, everyone knows that borrowing money from the bank just to gamble is the wrong decision and could have bad consequences in the future, but they forget all the risks involved and do whatever they think is right.
But actually there are two main factors that make them dare to borrow money just to gamble.
- The first is the idea that they have job or business that can make money so they think that even if they borrow they can still pay the bills and will not experience difficulties in the future.
- Second, they think they can win and their goals will be realized so that when they win they can immediately return the loan money, but they forget that gambling is full of uncertainty and defeat is always on their side.
These two things make gamblers brave enough to borrow money without considering everything, including the pressure they might feel, but only when they feel the difficulties can they realize all that.

It like when you take out loan and feel various pressures, but after it all over and you feel it, the awareness arises not to do it again.
Experiences and consequences must be truly experienced by gamblers so that they can think and act well.
It's strange how, despite our logical understanding of risks, we emotionally go right into them. Consider your first point: using a steady income to make debts from gaming acceptable. We see this as an overconfidence in one's financial sense. It sounds like, "I'm unstoppable because I have a stable job." But do they really? In actuality, demands in life and income levels change. Although you may be aware of the rules, are you really able to forecast the changes?

"I'll win it all back!" Traditional human arrogance, yes? Can we see this as a frantic attempt to maintain control in an unpredictable world? They are placing bets not only on cards or dice, but also on life to give them some relief. Though everyone is aware that the house always win, hope is a powerful remedy. The excitement of "what if" is what prevents people from seeing the harsh reality of "what usually is." Gamblers chase dreams, but more often than not, they're just running on a treadmill, making progress but remaining stagnant

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December 08, 2023, 06:55:05 AM
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Sometimes we become blind for a moment when faced with our biggest enemy, namely greed when gambling, the average gambler has experienced this, and I have too. We become like hypocrites because on the one hand we give advice not to take gambling seriously, but we gamble without thinking about the impact in the future. But what can we do, the rice has become porridge, we cannot turn back time and we can only deal with the problem as best we can. I hope the best for you.

Greed will cover everything and control everything, and if greed has controlled then bad things cannot be avoided, whether they want to or not they have to accept it. and with the greed they follow makes them lose their money and when they lose their money, they can take out a loan to be able to return to gambling, but this will be very risky of course for themselves. they will get into debt and they may not pay it because all they have is the principle of gambling to get a big win, and how they can keep gambling.

I myself gamble only on weekends, because I already know what the end will be like, so I don't really expect to win, I'm not hypocritical, I want to win, but I don't gamble by desperately pursuing victory to the point of daring to borrow money just to gamble it is not a solution to the defeat that is obtained, if they want victory then they must stop hoping for gambling, throw away the thought that gambling can provide victory easily and can make someone's life change for the better because of the victory in gambling. This kind of thinking is the disease, where they will continue to gamble by expecting a big win or jackpot that they will get. even though they only spend a lot of money by playing games that can make them upset themselves with the loss of money they have. So do not let us gamble using borrowed money, it is not recommended.

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December 08, 2023, 08:45:23 AM
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Sometimes we become blind for a moment when faced with our biggest enemy, namely greed when gambling, the average gambler has experienced this, and I have too. We become like hypocrites because on the one hand we give advice not to take gambling seriously, but we gamble without thinking about the impact in the future. But what can we do, the rice has become porridge, we cannot turn back time and we can only deal with the problem as best we can. I hope the best for you.
Yes, and I also think that as gamblers, we wanted to take that risk with the money that we loan. I have done  this several times though, not that huge amount maybe just around $100, borrow from someone with interest and then I will just go play it online or even in traditional based casino.

And as the risk goes, sometimes I will win, but majority I will just ended up losing everything and when I thought I have the money already to repay and then win some. But sometimes greed takes over, so instead of the money that I should have won that night, I ended up with nothing.

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December 08, 2023, 11:13:50 AM
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Sometimes we become blind for a moment when faced with our biggest enemy, namely greed when gambling, the average gambler has experienced this, and I have too. We become like hypocrites because on the one hand we give advice not to take gambling seriously, but we gamble without thinking about the impact in the future. But what can we do, the rice has become porridge, we cannot turn back time and we can only deal with the problem as best we can. I hope the best for you.
Yes, and I also think that as gamblers, we wanted to take that risk with the money that we loan. I have done  this several times though, not that huge amount maybe just around $100, borrow from someone with interest and then I will just go play it online or even in traditional based casino.

And as the risk goes, sometimes I will win, but majority I will just ended up losing everything and when I thought I have the money already to repay and then win some. But sometimes greed takes over, so instead of the money that I should have won that night, I ended up with nothing.

If you have already your loan money then you need to think carefully about what you're going to do with that money, You can use it for something more meaningful or you can spend it all on gambling, or you can used both. its your choice, but since you have said that you want to take a risk by using it in gambling, so you need to be more open on the consequences that may happen. From the very beginning, It is not advisable to use loan money in gambling because it can cause you a trouble and big debt because of the interest. What if you don't have a stable job? How will you pay all the money you borrowed for gambling? think carefully.



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December 08, 2023, 11:23:03 AM
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Sometimes we become blind for a moment when faced with our biggest enemy, namely greed when gambling, the average gambler has experienced this, and I have too. We become like hypocrites because on the one hand we give advice not to take gambling seriously, but we gamble without thinking about the impact in the future. But what can we do, the rice has become porridge, we cannot turn back time and we can only deal with the problem as best we can. I hope the best for you.
Greed is part of gambling. I don't think anyone could just control that. I mean, that's why people get loans, they want higher profits so they will bet as high as possible so that once they hit a jackpot prize it's all over. But, there will be those who will keep on trying even though they already won their bets not knowing what comes next is the system trying to win back what we took from them.
I mean it when I say it because I've been there a lot of times. There was even a moment that I made it to 10x my capital and yet I was still not satisfied with it. Greed.  
I think that's also why I keep on telling friends to never ever borrow money when they gamble. They will just dig their own grave because at one point they will lose and will never find any means to pay back what they borrowed.

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December 08, 2023, 01:10:10 PM
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but of course, you will see some gamblers around you who do activities like that. Previously they played with their own money, but when their money runs out and they still want to play they will borrow money from anyone, maybe even you, to continue playing. maybe the value is not large but the smaller the amount borrowed, the longer it will take to pay it back. maybe even just forget about it.
even though it guarantees payments that will be obtained from future work, however, borrowing money to gamble is an activity that increases the risk of gambling.
Yes, I've seen that happen around me, and I've even advised them not to borrow money from anyone, but they don't listen to my advice and keep borrowing money from friends they know. And I also don't force my suggestions on them because it is the responsibility of each person who wants to continue gambling. And I can already guess the final result where they can only win a little money, but by going back to gambling, they again experience loss, which wastes all their money with nothing left. I couldn't lend them money to be able to go back to gambling again, and they also finally realized that what they did was wrong, but everything had happened and couldn't be turned back. They had to return all the money they borrowed, and fortunately, they brought their ATM cards, so they immediately took the money and handed it over to the person who gave them the loan.

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December 08, 2023, 01:26:12 PM
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Sometimes we become blind for a moment when faced with our biggest enemy, namely greed when gambling, the average gambler has experienced this, and I have too. We become like hypocrites because on the one hand we give advice not to take gambling seriously, but we gamble without thinking about the impact in the future. But what can we do, the rice has become porridge, we cannot turn back time and we can only deal with the problem as best we can. I hope the best for you.

Not only that but emotions are also involved and these two things, emotions and greed are usually what always give results that turn out to be much worse than what was imagined, yes that's right I think almost most gamblers will experience phases where emotions and greed control themselves which makes them almost completely unable to think using logic. Haha yes it is true that you admit your own mistakes and not only you sometimes I still do it unconsciously, but I think it doesn't matter if we give advice to others even though sometimes we also make the same mistakes.

I think it's still reasonable because humans are fallible and it's also very difficult to be able to control the emotions that are in us. Rice has become porridge and yes that means maybe we are a little late because time cannot be turned back, but I think it doesn't matter because this is an experience, and the question is whether we can make this bitter experience a lesson or not, if we can then obviously we will be able to become a better person again, especially in gambling involvement which will not be too excessive, regret will always be at the end hopefully we or they can fix everything.

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December 08, 2023, 01:44:33 PM
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I have always advised people not to take gambling seriously but I myself became heavily addicted to live blackjack from stake.com and kept winning and losing. In this case I will not blame the gambling site because they give live cards. I started the game with just $20 but gradually I got addicted to it and wanted to gamble and win bigger amounts by depositing bigger amounts. I lost $1700 playing this way then I decided to play with a much bigger amount and recover all the losses then quit gambling for this I borrowed 270000 BDT ($2180) from the bank and deposited there. But unfortunately I lost them. Now I am financially so weak that it has become very difficult to meet my family expenses and I owe the bank $2180 which will take me a long time to pay off. Now it will take about 2 years for my financial situation to be normal again. Gambling addiction set back my normal life by 2 years. I am a victim of real experience and I am sharing my real experience with you.  Don't make the same mistake I did.  And never decide to gamble with a loan. If you do, your situation may be similar to mine. so beware of gambling

I am guilty of this several years ago even if it’s just a small amount of money. Sometime in 2016 while at a computer shop, I’m out of money already so I asked my friend to lend me some.

He did gave me some small amounts only, but spending it in a wrong way by means of gambling. Unfortunately, I have lost almost all of it but good thing I have paid it back a week after. But it was one of those lessons that I have ever learned of not to borrow or loan money just for the purpose of gambling.

Right now I am just gambling with my extra money that I can afford to lose and I do not spend way beyond my limits.

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December 08, 2023, 02:18:03 PM
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That is why it is not recommended to borrow money from anyone to gamble. Those who do this will only get into trouble, especially if they lose at gambling, so they can't pay back the loan. There are more risks behind borrowing money as there is a desire to borrow from someone other than the first so that they can continue gambling and recover their losses. However, if they lose again, it will continue because there is a possibility that they will look for someone else to borrow the money to gamble again.

Yes. It's a dirty loophole where a gambler can destroy his own life and his family too. Gambling addiction is too bad and can cause serious trouble. Op's case is an example of how gambling addiction and taking a loan can cause harm. He has to work for at least a year to pay the debt. But it's nice to see that he realized that it's not too late to stop. He did not take further loans to cover the previous one. I would suggest he not take another loan to cover this one. If he does, he will be trapped in a loophole. This is not the first time we heard such a story. Often people do these things and get into serious trouble.
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December 08, 2023, 02:31:20 PM
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Sometimes we become blind for a moment when faced with our biggest enemy, namely greed when gambling, the average gambler has experienced this, and I have too. We become like hypocrites because on the one hand we give advice not to take gambling seriously, but we gamble without thinking about the impact in the future. But what can we do, the rice has become porridge, we cannot turn back time and we can only deal with the problem as best we can. I hope the best for you.
Yes, and I also think that as gamblers, we wanted to take that risk with the money that we loan. I have done  this several times though, not that huge amount maybe just around $100, borrow from someone with interest and then I will just go play it online or even in traditional based casino.

And as the risk goes, sometimes I will win, but majority I will just ended up losing everything and when I thought I have the money already to repay and then win some. But sometimes greed takes over, so instead of the money that I should have won that night, I ended up with nothing.

If you have already your loan money then you need to think carefully about what you're going to do with that money, You can use it for something more meaningful or you can spend it all on gambling, or you can used both. its your choice, but since you have said that you want to take a risk by using it in gambling, so you need to be more open on the consequences that may happen. From the very beginning, It is not advisable to use loan money in gambling because it can cause you a trouble and big debt because of the interest. What if you don't have a stable job? How will you pay all the money you borrowed for gambling? think carefully.

I think if they have taken a loan it is better to use the money for other purposes in life and outside of gambling, they must realize that it is borrowed money that they have to return to the person who gave the loan anyway, so of course I think it is better to use it for other useful needs. I don't prohibit anyone from putting the borrowed money into gambling but I think consider first before they decide, don't let you act rashly by putting the money into gambling in the hope that "hopefully the amount will multiply", I understand that there is a chance of winning but on the other hand it is very difficult and requires a lot of experiments to be able to achieve pretty good luck.

It does come back to yourself about which one you will choose, but here maybe I just slightly suggest that it is better to use the money wisely, nothing else because the fear is that you are very likely to regret it at the end of the session when the results really lose. They must understand that in gambling the risks are greater than the chances of winning  and that is what makes more people suffer defeat than victory. Right, the point is that gambling with borrowed money is really not recommended because it will only make a lot of new problems come to you, especially depression due to debt.

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December 08, 2023, 02:47:50 PM
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Right now I am just gambling with my extra money that I can afford to lose and I do not spend way beyond my limits.
You have correctly used money that you can afford to lose, meaning money that is not used so there is no need to borrow money from anyone to finance your gambling, gambling with money from debt will never end well so your ability to gamble must match the money you have don't go over the limit like other gamblers do because that will only waste money unnecessarily.

There are many cases of addicted gamblers who are in debt and all their assets have also been used up so they don't know how to pay their debts even though they don't have anything, that's why there are many cases where addicts like that usually end their lives by committing suicide and ultimately end up becoming a losers, that's why never gamble beyond the limits of gambling with money that we are ready to lose, let's say we go to an entertainment venue and have to pay for that entertainment. think of gambling like a place of entertainment.

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December 08, 2023, 02:57:40 PM
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That is why it is not recommended to borrow money from anyone to gamble. Those who do this will only get into trouble, especially if they lose at gambling, so they can't pay back the loan. There are more risks behind borrowing money as there is a desire to borrow from someone other than the first so that they can continue gambling and recover their losses. However, if they lose again, it will continue because there is a possibility that they will look for someone else to borrow the money to gamble again.

Yes. It's a dirty loophole where a gambler can destroy his own life and his family too. Gambling addiction is too bad and can cause serious trouble. Op's case is an example of how gambling addiction and taking a loan can cause harm. He has to work for at least a year to pay the debt. But it's nice to see that he realized that it's not too late to stop. He did not take further loans to cover the previous one. I would suggest he not take another loan to cover this one. If he does, he will be trapped in a loophole. This is not the first time we heard such a story. Often people do these things and get into serious trouble.
I read some forum posts where a member shared their story of borrowing money to recover their losses from gambling. They were fortunate enough to eventually win back the lost amount. It is important to keep in mind that winning with borrowed money is not always guaranteed and it's important to have a plan to repay the loan in case you lose while gambling. It's advisable to have a reliable source of income to fall back on.
If you want to avoid ruining your own life and your family's, it's best to stay away from borrowing money or gambling permanently.
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December 08, 2023, 03:20:30 PM
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While we keep reminding them not to gamble if they can't afford it and they don't have money to gamble. Much better for them to simply stop and don't do anything at all because aside from losing, if they're going to have ways to gamble.
Then, it's easier to have ways not to gamble because you have no reason for it and you have no money at all. You're just going to complicate things when you ask for a loan to gamble.
Yep. If there is no safe money for gambling anymore, the best way is to stop temporarily. Why we must try to continue gambling if we use unsafe money, right? Gambling isn't a safe place to risk money, no guarantee to win the prizes. Even we tend to lose money because the chance to win is quite small, specifically for the luck-based games.

Sure, no reason for gambling if we risk ourselves, it won't be fun anymore. I think we only can gamble as long as it bring an entertainment for us. Although people must expect money from gambling, fun should be an important part in gambling. If gambling never bring the entertainment and we never feel fun during playing gambling, so why we keep gambling? It is true that we shouldn't lead ourselves into a complicated situation in gambling.



That's a good thing you say, actually, for the gamblers here in crypto gambling. That's why the problem with other players is that when they become greedy, they can't stop themselves from continuing to gamble.

And sometimes, because they are greedy, it becomes a way for them to borrow money so that they can recover their losses in gambling. This often happens, which is not a good habit for a gambler to have in reality.



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