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January 27, 2024, 06:43:52 PM
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Don't make the same mistake I did.  And never decide to gamble with a loan. If you do, your situation may be similar to mine. so beware of gambling
It might be more accurate to say don't get addicted to gambling. That is a very bad thing. I often see threads that say something about gambling addiction affecting people close to you and you have also said that gambling will affect your finances. As an adult this is your own responsibility and I think I can say that none of the children on this forum are underage children. But still you have reminded everyone here that don't get addicted to gambling, let alone ask for a loan to gamble because that is much riskier than trading Bitcoin itself.

I think all gamblers don't want to end up with an addiction because after all this is a very bad and worrying situation and you already mentioned one of the effects which is that gambling addiction can make a person experience unusual financial problems, losing financial balance due to excessive allocation on gambling and this is the worst impact that gambling can have which can make you have no enthusiasm for life. Everyone doesn't want to be in a situation of addiction but unfortunately not everyone can do things that can prevent themselves and keep themselves away from addiction, such as always being consistent in applying limits whether it is in terms of budget or time of involvement, instead more of them are aggressive in their approach to gambling and one of them is to use loans as an alternative to funding their gambling when they run out of money, and obviously this will make a stronger push for them to end up with addiction. I think it's pretty simple if you want to avoid addiction, it's either you become a responsible gambler and understand the risks or you never touch gambling.
A good gambler will always play with full awareness and with this you can control yourself and the game, not the game controlling you.
It's not easy because most people are only obsessed with winning or chasing losses which makes them lose consciousness and continue playing and make gambling their activity. And these gamblers will very easily become addicts, and will most likely take out loans when they no longer have money and also don't have goods or anything to use as money just for gambling capital, and borrowing is the solution.
And currently there are lots of online loans that make it easy for them to get money with very easy conditions, and there are lots of cases like this now which make addicts suffer even more and are also threatened.
It is very sad to see that easy access to online gambling and online loans makes addicts suffer even more, all because they cannot play with full awareness which they actually know there are signs.

What should be is that we all control gambling activities and not gambling that controls us, maybe you understand what I mean because if gambling controls us then that means we are like losing consciousness and just being carried away without a specified time, and of course if it turns out that they are still fine even though they have been involved for a long time in gambling then that means they have unusual management of gambling activities, meaning they have good management that can keep themselves safe from bad possibilities like those experienced by gambling addicts.

Yes, this is always the problem, meaning that the chances of winning are always the main focus of most gamblers, they think that winning is easy to get when in fact it is far from that, in gambling the percentage of losses is much higher than wins and that is the reason why if you are too serious in involvement by doing a lot of experiments then what will happen is that you will experience a dominating defeat and when they run out of money then the main thing that comes to mind is "loans" I am sure that most addicted gamblers always make loans as an alternative to funding their gambling activities so with this then the problem will increase that is most likely they will suffer from debt problems due to excessive gambling. On the other hand, yes it is true that the existence of online loans seems to make it easier for gamblers to act even crazier, when unconsciously this is actually like digging a hole to bury themselves at the end of the journey.

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January 27, 2024, 07:38:08 PM
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Don't make the same mistake I did.  And never decide to gamble with a loan. If you do, your situation may be similar to mine. so beware of gambling
It might be more accurate to say don't get addicted to gambling. That is a very bad thing. I often see threads that say something about gambling addiction affecting people close to you and you have also said that gambling will affect your finances. As an adult this is your own responsibility and I think I can say that none of the children on this forum are underage children. But still you have reminded everyone here that don't get addicted to gambling, let alone ask for a loan to gamble because that is much riskier than trading Bitcoin itself.
You are right to have narrowed it down to the general advice of not getting addicted because if one is addicted, there is no advice that will enter into his ears again, it will just be a matter of hearsay, and it will never have any meaning or deep root with them. Anyone who is addicted to gambling can do anything, they can lie to get money, they can beg to get the money, they can borrow to play, they can also use friends' money or project money to gamble among many more. This is why it is good to nip it in the bud from the beginning before one tries to heal it. I believe that most people are not starting gambling the right way, they lack preparation as they just dabble into it believing is just that simple without preparing for the psychological part of it.

But this is the most important part that can get the bettor aware from the beginning to preserve the psychology. Gambling is such that will infest your mind and spirit if care is not taken, especially if the person is desperate for the money to be made there. That is the mistake most people make, they often believe that it is gambling that will give them their lifetime prosperity and even pass it to the next generation but they forget to look around them if it is truly possible. Many would have been made rich by now if it was so. Nonetheless, gambling can earn you money, but it is when you apply wisdom by using the right techniques and manage your account well even as you manage yourself also.

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January 27, 2024, 08:14:42 PM
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Of course, as a gambler, we must be able to limit our money when betting and adjust to the financial budget we have, in other words, don't force bets if we can't afford it because if this continues then we will definitely get into trouble. of the impact of the risks involved in gambling. .
And in my opinion, if you don't have extra money to gamble, you shouldn't borrow from the bank because that is a fatal mistake.
There is no best nest using borrowed money for gambling. If you expect to double the borrowed money then it is better not to gamble. Most of the people who lost assets in my area (land, house, gold) other valuables were due to gambling. They cannot do capital management, mentally, so they do not have the awareness to stop to increase suffering. But I also believe there are 1 in 100 people who can succeed with borrowed money. But I'm sure they mastered mentality and management. They are not addicted, but they can make gambling a job.
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January 27, 2024, 08:30:47 PM
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Of course, as a gambler, we must be able to limit our money when betting and adjust to the financial budget we have, in other words, don't force bets if we can't afford it because if this continues then we will definitely get into trouble. of the impact of the risks involved in gambling. .
And in my opinion, if you don't have extra money to gamble, you shouldn't borrow from the bank because that is a fatal mistake.
There is no best nest using borrowed money for gambling. If you expect to double the borrowed money then it is better not to gamble. Most of the people who lost assets in my area (land, house, gold) other valuables were due to gambling. They cannot do capital management, mentally, so they do not have the awareness to stop to increase suffering. But I also believe there are 1 in 100 people who can succeed with borrowed money. But I'm sure they mastered mentality and management. They are not addicted, but they can make gambling a job.
ITS SUICIDE!

If you are playing gambling on making use of LOAN money then its never been advisable and its never been that ideal.If you are really that able to pay up those loans then it wont really be that an issue.
But it is really that reasonable that you would really be making use of loan amount to gamble if its better that you should really be that using it on somewhere else but if you are really that prepared on spending those funds into gambling then there would really be no issue since its your money from the start. It is really just that there are those people who are really that not been able to repay those loans
but still they do continue on doing such act on which they do have those hopes and wishes that they could really be able to make themselves recover on what they have lots or simply trying out to
make those loan amount bigger and could paid it up easily.

Regrets is always at the end and it would really be just that wise that you should really be that knowing on how you would really be that making yourself adjust accordingly
basing up into the situation or condition that you are into.

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January 27, 2024, 08:33:47 PM
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Of course, as a gambler, we must be able to limit our money when betting and adjust to the financial budget we have, in other words, don't force bets if we can't afford it because if this continues then we will definitely get into trouble. of the impact of the risks involved in gambling. .
And in my opinion, if you don't have extra money to gamble, you shouldn't borrow from the bank because that is a fatal mistake.
There is no best nest using borrowed money for gambling. If you expect to double the borrowed money then it is better not to gamble. Most of the people who lost assets in my area (land, house, gold) other valuables were due to gambling. They cannot do capital management, mentally, so they do not have the awareness to stop to increase suffering. But I also believe there are 1 in 100 people who can succeed with borrowed money. But I'm sure they mastered mentality and management. They are not addicted, but they can make gambling a job.

spending brrowing money is not pretty good enough but we won't say that all gamblers can do that cause is he is gonna take that money and start playing there's a high chance of lossing and once it will happen then there's a chance that s gambler can't find a way to pay with those money,  cause if he loss today then they have a big chance to loss again nextime. So it better to not hold the money next time cause maybe it will be gone once the gambler will loss.

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January 27, 2024, 09:33:19 PM
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It almost ends in loan for most gamblers. A good reason to stay careful with those rush and fierce entangling with the minds of gamblers who has lost a lot of money. Looking at other scenarios of losing out money in a business, most people would want to get the money back by consistently trying the business, with hopes of getting to the top of the business someday. If a gambler is careful with his newly developed habit, he can easily find a better means of moderately chasing for his loss, without thoughtless heads as you said. The mistake emerges from doing things with no reason or responsibility for our money. What is most important as gamblers is the money and mental health. Both may be interconnected in the human brain, losing money and mental health. Such that when one continuously loss money, his mental health would be affected. Gambling is a choice, not like a con, players should take charge of the privilege.
Your understanding of the balance between financial loss and emotional health is touching. I've seen many gamblers and non-gamblers dance to it without realizing it. As you noted, risk management is key, not avoidance. Gamblers with discipline and a firm awareness of their limits can chase losses without becoming irresponsible. You must control the adrenaline, not let it overwhelm you.

I believe gambling can be fun and even transformative if done properly. Recognising the game as such is key. A place to test one's luck, learn decision-making under pressure, and most importantly, discover oneself. We must protect our financial and mental health as we move through this place, as they are interwoven. Gambling, like any other endeavor, requires balance, self-awareness, and accountability.

Activities like gambling shouldn't encourage the use of gambling without strong emotional control. Once a person is safeguarded emotionally, he's stop fighting and enjoy his family. Most people have seen gambling as a way of making more money but forget that such state of mind isn't conducive for the player. Commencing for the first time in gambling, ignorantly, the newbie would make series of unresolvable mistakes. Gambling is a faceless game. lots of gamblers around the world, but players haven't known the person's origin or whereabout. Instead of stressing oneself in gambling, it's better to reconsider our choices as humans. To adapt to the new invented gambling rules. So, if a person finds it difficult resolving his loans, he should work very hard to pay back. No need being a part of this, if you're not capable of gambling often times without getting attached to it at anytime.

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January 27, 2024, 10:46:57 PM
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Of course, as a gambler, we must be able to limit our money when betting and adjust to the financial budget we have, in other words, don't force bets if we can't afford it because if this continues then we will definitely get into trouble. of the impact of the risks involved in gambling. .
And in my opinion, if you don't have extra money to gamble, you shouldn't borrow from the bank because that is a fatal mistake.
There is no best nest using borrowed money for gambling. If you expect to double the borrowed money then it is better not to gamble. Most of the people who lost assets in my area (land, house, gold) other valuables were due to gambling. They cannot do capital management, mentally, so they do not have the awareness to stop to increase suffering. But I also believe there are 1 in 100 people who can succeed with borrowed money. But I'm sure they mastered mentality and management. They are not addicted, but they can make gambling a job.

Obviously, if someone uses borrowed money to gamble, it is not a good behavior for him, but he will fall into the abyss of decline in life. Yes, that's right, don't expect too much money from gambling because gambling is not a way to make money but to spend money quickly. For people who are addicted, they clearly cannot control their thoughts and mentality when gambling, it could be that emotional feelings and greed take over them so they cannot use their common sense properly.
Returning to each person's personality, if there is 1 in 100 people who are able to control themselves in gambling then they will not experience anything bad from the effects of the risks of gambling, but I am sure they will not make gambling a form of it. work but only as entertainment for himself.

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Obviously, if someone uses borrowed money to gamble, it is not a good behavior for him, but he will fall into the abyss of decline in life. Yes, that's right, don't expect too much money from gambling because gambling is not a way to make money but to spend money quickly. For people who are addicted, they clearly cannot control their thoughts and mentality when gambling, it could be that emotional feelings and greed take over them so they cannot use their common sense properly.
Returning to each person's personality, if there is 1 in 100 people who are able to control themselves in gambling then they will not experience anything bad from the effects of the risks of gambling, but I am sure they will not make gambling a form of it. work but only as entertainment for himself.
However, there are still gamblers who use loans to gamble because their mindset is dominated by greed and uncontrollable emotional control, so they only have one choice after losing at gambling, namely using borrowed funds to continue gambling. In my opinion, only gamblers who are financially rich can avoid loans but some gamblers with a middle economy still prioritize loans for gambling, although the loan amount varies but generally can be paid on the next winning bet, they do not apply for high loans, but maybe only for some low bets because they have not reached satisfaction when gambling but have experienced losses.

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January 27, 2024, 10:58:15 PM
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Borrowing money just for gambling is not an option, if you don't have any money, just keep quiet. Don't do anything that will make your head hurt. There are many other things to do there besides gambling.
I don't know what most people use to convince themselves that gambling with money that does not belong to them is a good idea. In a game in which the outcome can be anything, you want to gamble with loan money that can come with interest.
 
The only kind of people I always see who can go as far as gambling with money that's not there are those who are addicted to gambling but won't admit it. Even if you have the money for the main event and you don't have access to it, I can't even advise the person to borrow to gamble. When we are short on cash, we should see it as not an eligible day for us to gamble.

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January 27, 2024, 11:09:07 PM
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Obviously, if someone uses borrowed money to gamble, it is not a good behavior for him, but he will fall into the abyss of decline in life. Yes, that's right, don't expect too much money from gambling because gambling is not a way to make money but to spend money quickly. For people who are addicted, they clearly cannot control their thoughts and mentality when gambling, it could be that emotional feelings and greed take over them so they cannot use their common sense properly.
Returning to each person's personality, if there is 1 in 100 people who are able to control themselves in gambling then they will not experience anything bad from the effects of the risks of gambling, but I am sure they will not make gambling a form of it. work but only as entertainment for himself.
However, there are still gamblers who use loans to gamble because their mindset is dominated by greed and uncontrollable emotional control, so they only have one choice after losing at gambling, namely using borrowed funds to continue gambling. In my opinion, only gamblers who are financially rich can avoid loans but some gamblers with a middle economy still prioritize loans for gambling, although the loan amount varies but generally can be paid on the next winning bet, they do not apply for high loans, but maybe only for some low bets because they have not reached satisfaction when gambling but have experienced losses.

Yes, we often hear that there are still gamblers who use borrowed money because they have become addicts, because people who are addicted have the wrong mindset and all that exists is the wrong behavior and mindset, namely playing greedily and excessively.
Yes, your opinion may be correct, only rich people gamble, avoid borrowing money, obviously they have a lot of money, but for people with middle to lower financial levels, it is possible to borrow money to gamble. And what is certain is that gambling by borrowing even small amounts of money is a mistake because it is not certain that he will win the gambling bet and be able to return the money.

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January 27, 2024, 11:20:47 PM
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For me, this is one of the most silliest decisions to make as far as I'm concerned because this doesn't need any kind of explanation or experience really before you would know that it is a wrong move for you to carry a loan that you acquired to play gambling. Could it be as a result of you thinking that you are sure of what you are gambling about and then you need to get the odds right or you already have the odds right and because of that you now want to play gambling with the money that you loaned. That is a very wrong decision.

Considering the fact that there's no assurance when you gamble, the results that comes out of it, whether positive or negative. Or as 50/50. So because of the high risk, taking a loan in the name of gambling for anyone who is doing that right now, I think it will only be a brotherly advise to inform that person, not to engage in things like that because that will result to acquiring more depth and financial troubles to yourself than you already have.

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Obviously, if someone uses borrowed money to gamble, it is not a good behavior for him, but he will fall into the abyss of decline in life. Yes, that's right, don't expect too much money from gambling because gambling is not a way to make money but to spend money quickly. For people who are addicted, they clearly cannot control their thoughts and mentality when gambling, it could be that emotional feelings and greed take over them so they cannot use their common sense properly.
Returning to each person's personality, if there is 1 in 100 people who are able to control themselves in gambling then they will not experience anything bad from the effects of the risks of gambling, but I am sure they will not make gambling a form of it. work but only as entertainment for himself.
However, there are still gamblers who use loans to gamble because their mindset is dominated by greed and uncontrollable emotional control, so they only have one choice after losing at gambling, namely using borrowed funds to continue gambling. In my opinion, only gamblers who are financially rich can avoid loans but some gamblers with a middle economy still prioritize loans for gambling, although the loan amount varies but generally can be paid on the next winning bet, they do not apply for high loans, but maybe only for some low bets because they have not reached satisfaction when gambling but have experienced losses.

Yes, we often hear that there are still gamblers who use borrowed money because they have become addicts, because people who are addicted have the wrong mindset and all that exists is the wrong behavior and mindset, namely playing greedily and excessively.
Yes, your opinion may be correct, only rich people gamble, avoid borrowing money, obviously they have a lot of money, but for people with middle to lower financial levels, it is possible to borrow money to gamble. And what is certain is that gambling by borrowing even small amounts of money is a mistake because it is not certain that he will win the gambling bet and be able to return the money.

A person who borrows money and participates in gambling is actually living in a fool's paradise. A person who is really addicted to gambling can never think about these things, because his thoughts only go towards gambling. Once faced with a loss, one can imagine how big the loss will be, the gambler will never be able to pay off the loan without dying, but again, the bank loan. Bank loans are at a stage where money can't be withdrawn without proof, so I forbid gamblers.

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Your story sounds somehow funny but I like people that have experienced something before advising others because using oneself as an example really means you don't want others to have same experience as you do so one thing that takes people backwards in life is loans because at a time you are to think ahead of what to do with your money, you will be thinking of repaying a loan which is not advisable to anyone not to talk of taking the loan to play a gamble. Some gamblers are fond of this act because I've actually known someone that me mt me years back for me to borrow him money that he has a sure odd and even promise to bring some of his home appliances including his fridge as collateral I gave him the money but the game failed and he came back crying I just had compassion on him and gave him back his collateral later on he repayed the money. So taking loans to play gamble is a very bad habit that can lead to incessant debts that you may not even be able to pay back.

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I agree with that, because my friend did something unreasonable in the middle of the night, he borrowed money under the pretext of medical treatment and an emergency, but I didn't really believe it myself so I asked close relatives and in the end it was all lies. How annoyed I was when he was willing to argue that it was an emergency and required immediate treatment. this is very unreasonable. Not only this, he also lost many of his belongings, including his watch and laptop. It's true that you said borrowing money to gamble has become the culture of gambling addicts.
Your friend should be the one to be cured because if he continues to be allowed to continue to have debts everywhere, the family should know about your friend and make him aware that he has gone too far so he cannot control himself to continue financing his gambling and spending money there, after all what is your friend looking for in gambling, even though it is clear that there is no successful gambler in this world except a bookie.

If you want your friend to stop borrowing money from you, you should tell his family to stop it and not go too far and make decisions, debt breaks friendships and even family relationships, it's a good idea for such people to be made aware immediately and treated so they don't get addicted. gambling, it seems he has a high level of gambling addiction so it will take a long time for him to recover, don't let that happen continuously. You and his family as the closest people have access to your friend's healing, I believe he can recover if he has the desire to recover from gambling. always say that gambling cannot make us rich.  Wink

I don't care about it, but people like him must be able to recover because it's for his own good too, I agree with you, no one can be successful by gambling if they are not a dealer, those who are only player based will not be able to make profits like dealers who always getting big profits is also clear. I'm sure what he's looking for is a big win, but even so, it doesn't guarantee that he can stop if he gets a big win, it could be that by getting that he becomes more confident in gambling, to the point where he still can't stop. unless he himself finds a moment where it can wake him up, but who knows when that moment will come and who knows what it will be like. So I think it will be difficult for him to recover from his addiction, even with support from family or close friends, it will be difficult.

That makes sense, maybe with that he will be given direction and advice by his family, also the other side is like he will be scolded by his family because of his behavior that has gone too far beyond normal limits.  I'm sure with that  he will take a long time to get rid of his addiction, because it's not easy to get rid of the gambling addiction  I myself will not always give him advice if he himself does not have awareness  so I will just silence him until he feels a point that can make him realize by himself.

I agree with that, because my friend did something unreasonable in the middle of the night, he borrowed money under the pretext of medical treatment and an emergency, but I didn't really believe it myself so I asked close relatives and in the end it was all lies. How annoyed I was when he was willing to argue that it was an emergency and required immediate treatment. this is very unreasonable. Not only this, he also lost many of his belongings, including his watch and laptop. It's true that you said borrowing money to gamble has become the culture of gambling addicts.
Your friend should be the one to be cured because if he continues to be allowed to continue to have debts everywhere, the family should know about your friend and make him aware that he has gone too far so he cannot control himself to continue financing his gambling and spending money there, after all what is your friend looking for in gambling, even though it is clear that there is no successful gambler in this world except a bookie.

If you want your friend to stop borrowing money from you, you should tell his family to stop it and not go too far and make decisions, debt breaks friendships and even family relationships, it's a good idea for such people to be made aware immediately and treated so they don't get addicted. gambling, it seems he has a high level of gambling addiction so it will take a long time for him to recover, don't let that happen continuously. You and his family as the closest people have access to your friend's healing, I believe he can recover if he has the desire to recover from gambling. always say that gambling cannot make us rich.  Wink
That's the most logical thing that could happen, but we have to look at things from Another Point of view, maybe from the most logical Point of view, and that he has an Addiction , right now, no matter how much we tell him all those things, maybe He will say yes, or he will nod his head saying that he is right in everything that is said, but the Addiction is very strong, sometimes the risks are not measured, the person who is in that danger of Addiction and does what he does to That person is fine with taking all those risks, they simply do not stop at the dangers that come, they are not afraid of things, they are not afraid of losing Anything , because that period where addiction is like that, the Things may seem very difficult for them to fix, but as the debts progress, the things that they could be losing when they begin to come to their senses is When the bad thing begins, the thought of how they can recover, that Andie will give them loans, all that begins.

The moment we accept all those things, and we delve into how an addicted person can think, we know that the first step and that Person must go Quickly to treat their Problem so that they Continue to fall into more debts in more things than It should not, so in this order of ideas, sometimes the problem of people like this becomes dangerous, that's why I choose because when a person is like this, different things should be done, for example there is a Center of Attention and well when it comes to make solutions, for me the main thing will always be to do "sleep cures", some will say that it is for squid or that it serves for people who are Aggressive , but no , I see that it serves to quell anxiety, make the person touch and tell Yourself that what you are doing is wrong, to give you time to doThings better and change your attitude, I say that this helps you be more aware of Things.

That's right, our point of view with people who are addicted is different, where we have a point of view that is positive to be able to make people aware of those who do negative things and harm themselves, but for those who are addicted it is a need because they are already addicted so that's what being negative has become a need for themselves therefore people who are addicted tend not to pay attention to advice from other people,  because according to themselves, maybe what they are doing is right, and indeed if they are like this, their addiction is very strong because they cannot accept it. advice from other people as well as his closest family it is also true that this will be difficult to fix.

To overcome this problem in my opinion,  the thing that must be paid attention to is awareness because that will make them see the loss they feel, the large number of losses they feel will make them think that they have lost a lot of money but not made big profits so from That's if I myself focus more on awareness because if he himself is not aware of the risks that occur then it will be difficult for him to be aware of what he is doing.

In my opinion those who dare to take or carry out dangerous actions do so because of strong hopes that encourage them to continue gambling even though the gambling they do always ends in defeat. they dare to take the action of borrowing money to gamble in my opinion that is something that has gone too far, where they only think about their desire to gamble without thinking about the bad impact that could happen to themselves.

I don't think they will ever record their losses, because I think it's rare for people who gamble with them to record their losses, if at all I think those people are very careful. and I don't think it makes sense for them to record their losses, unless they record their daily expenses. In my opinion only they themselves know the strong reasons, and only they themselves know their motives for gambling.  even so, they will never easily realize that what they did was a big mistake that caused them to suffer big losses.

I am am also of the opinion that most of them with such gambling urge tends to go that extra miles to do the unthinkable as it pleases them to do so. Looking at gambling and loan at the same time, the both are very risky not to talk of taking a loan to gamble when you d not know how the end results would be if in your favour or against you.

It is true that only the gamblers can tell the reasons why they go as far as taking loans to gamble when they themselves know the repercussion involved in the game. That is why I do not bother asking questions anymore whenever I hear such complaints or information.
People who are addicted seem to do things that they think are fun, even though there are big losses, but people who are addicted, in my opinion, won't see that side, because all they think about is winning and winning, so it's possible that they won't see it. side of the losses they experience from gambling. and indeed these two things are very risky, in my opinion this helps each other in a bad way, where when they are addicted to gambling they direct themselves to take out loans, and with these loans they help an addict's desire to gamble, but the loans and gambling do not solve problems that occur.

I'm sure those who take loans to gamble are aware of the big risks that will occur, but on the other hand they don't care about it, because it is still a loss and can still be covered up by their strong desire to gamble, so they don't think about the risks that will occur. with the actions they take.

In my opinion those who dare to take or carry out dangerous actions do so because of strong hopes that encourage them to continue gambling even though the gambling they do always ends in defeat. they dare to take the action of borrowing money to gamble in my opinion that is something that has gone too far, where they only think about their desire to gamble without thinking about the bad impact that could happen to themselves.

I don't think they will ever record their losses, because I think it's rare for people who gamble with them to record their losses, if at all I think those people are very careful. and I don't think it makes sense for them to record their losses, unless they record their daily expenses. In my opinion only they themselves know the strong reasons, and only they themselves know their motives for gambling.  even so, they will never easily realize that what they did was a big mistake that caused them to suffer big losses.

I am am also of the opinion that most of them with such gambling urge tends to go that extra miles to do the unthinkable as it pleases them to do so. Looking at gambling and loan at the same time, the both are very risky not to talk of taking a loan to gamble when you d not know how the end results would be if in your favour or against you.

It is true that only the gamblers can tell the reasons why they go as far as taking loans to gamble when they themselves know the repercussion involved in the game. That is why I do not bother asking questions anymore whenever I hear such complaints or information.
Decided to ignore loan-backed gambling's whys? Dare I disagree. We start solving this complex problem by understanding why. It's not just about gambling; it's about institutions that facilitate and often unintentionally encourage high risks. Not all gambling is evil. The lack of boundaries and safety net makes it a sinkhole for some. We can educate people about the risks and how to gamble properly. It's about recognizing your limitations, investing only what you can lose, and never using borrowed money

Financial institutions also contribute. It's about preventing impulsive purchases like gambling loans. A gambler and the institutions that control the purse strings are responsible. The goal is to shift the debate from prohibition to education, judgment to support. Understanding reasons allows us to give solutions that stop the bleeding rather than just bandaging it

In fact, gambling is not bad if we or those out there do it well, but those who respond wrongly can cause all the bad impacts to happen, such as taking out loans, of course this is not recommended by gambling parties, because gambling parties do not will care about what the players do, they just wait for people to come and bring money to gamble, because the goal is profit. However, they respond wrongly to gambling and end up taking inappropriate actions because of themselves. and as many people have said in this thread, we should be able to gamble with limits,  budget limits and time limits.

Moreover,  someone who takes out a loan or applies for a loan is unlikely to have the excuse of borrowing the money to gamble,  because I don't think anyone will give a loan if the reason is like that so in my opinion they also apply for a loan for other, more logical reasons.

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January 28, 2024, 06:56:34 AM
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Yes, what you said is correct. that when someone is in a gambling place they can get carried away by the games they see there and if they are not equipped with good control then they are easily influenced by temptation there. It is true that the temptation in gambling places is so great that it can even change thoughts and behavior that were previously good and appropriate but instead turn bad.
Yes, we should be smart in saving the money we have and if we are curious about gambling then we also have more money to use for gambling and not use our savings, and that is the right and good behavior for gamblers to do. But it comes back to each person's personality and how they gamble carefully.
Many factors will influence it, even though what you have said is true, they are too happy and feel the excitement so they lose control and don't pay attention to the budget used in gambling and in the end they run out of all their money.
Too ambitious in winning so they place more bets with bigger amounts but they always lose and in the end also lose all the gambling budget that has been set, all of this can lead someone to be affected.
In the end they will borrow some money to pursue what they have hoped for, but this is reckless action because when they experience consecutive losses the only good method is to stop and leave instead of borrowing money to continue betting.
Mistakes like this often occur and are taken for granted by them, of course they will receive appropriate consequences from the decision they have taken.

It just that if you think about it logically, all of this has something to do with self-control and of course gamblers with good control will definitely not make mistakes like that.

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January 28, 2024, 08:49:35 AM
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Of course, as a gambler, we must be able to limit our money when betting and adjust to the financial budget we have, in other words, don't force bets if we can't afford it because if this continues then we will definitely get into trouble. of the impact of the risks involved in gambling. .
And in my opinion, if you don't have extra money to gamble, you shouldn't borrow from the bank because that is a fatal mistake.
There is no best nest using borrowed money for gambling. If you expect to double the borrowed money then it is better not to gamble. Most of the people who lost assets in my area (land, house, gold) other valuables were due to gambling. They cannot do capital management, mentally, so they do not have the awareness to stop to increase suffering. But I also believe there are 1 in 100 people who can succeed with borrowed money. But I'm sure they mastered mentality and management. They are not addicted, but they can make gambling a job.

Obviously, if someone uses borrowed money to gamble, it is not a good behavior for him, but he will fall into the abyss of decline in life. Yes, that's right, don't expect too much money from gambling because gambling is not a way to make money but to spend money quickly. For people who are addicted, they clearly cannot control their thoughts and mentality when gambling, it could be that emotional feelings and greed take over them so they cannot use their common sense properly.
Returning to each person's personality, if there is 1 in 100 people who are able to control themselves in gambling then they will not experience anything bad from the effects of the risks of gambling, but I am sure they will not make gambling a form of it. work but only as entertainment for himself.
Many gamblers always feel that gambling loans will be settled quickly after they win and besides, they have another insurance which is their monthly salary, that makes them worry less about the results later but from these small loans, they fall into pressure behind, in addition to living expenses, they shoulder additional expenses from the loan and moreover, the loan does not stop at just one number, it advances exponentially. When it comes to loans and gambling, it is like we will have huge debt levels in the future when these are indecipherable problems.

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Borrowing money just for gambling is not an option, if you don't have any money, just keep quiet. Don't do anything that will make your head hurt. There are many other things to do there besides gambling.
I don't know what most people use to convince themselves that gambling with money that does not belong to them is a good idea. In a game in which the outcome can be anything, you want to gamble with loan money that can come with interest.
 
The only kind of people I always see who can go as far as gambling with money that's not there are those who are addicted to gambling but won't admit it. Even if you have the money for the main event and you don't have access to it, I can't even advise the person to borrow to gamble. When we are short on cash, we should see it as not an eligible day for us to gamble.


Aside from those addicted gamblers, there are also some who are hoping that they can quickly earn money by gambling just a pair of luck. They will be able to multiply that capital and repay the loan that they took, but most of the time, those gamblers are the one who suffer a lot, not intending to loan or not being plan with their finances. Surely they will be suffering from miss-managing their savings.

Unplanned loans/debt is still needed to repay, and the problem is that if they did not place that in their budget even they are receiving their monthly salaries, it would be tough to balance their expenses.

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January 28, 2024, 01:23:17 PM
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Of course, as a gambler, we must be able to limit our money when betting and adjust to the financial budget we have, in other words, don't force bets if we can't afford it because if this continues then we will definitely get into trouble. of the impact of the risks involved in gambling. .
And in my opinion, if you don't have extra money to gamble, you shouldn't borrow from the bank because that is a fatal mistake.
There is no best nest using borrowed money for gambling. If you expect to double the borrowed money then it is better not to gamble. Most of the people who lost assets in my area (land, house, gold) other valuables were due to gambling. They cannot do capital management, mentally, so they do not have the awareness to stop to increase suffering. But I also believe there are 1 in 100 people who can succeed with borrowed money. But I'm sure they mastered mentality and management. They are not addicted, but they can make gambling a job.
ITS SUICIDE!

If you are playing gambling on making use of LOAN money then its never been advisable and its never been that ideal.If you are really that able to pay up those loans then it wont really be that an issue.
But it is really that reasonable that you would really be making use of loan amount to gamble if its better that you should really be that using it on somewhere else but if you are really that prepared on spending those funds into gambling then there would really be no issue since its your money from the start. It is really just that there are those people who are really that not been able to repay those loans
but still they do continue on doing such act on which they do have those hopes and wishes that they could really be able to make themselves recover on what they have lots or simply trying out to
make those loan amount bigger and could paid it up easily.

Regrets is always at the end and it would really be just that wise that you should really be that knowing on how you would really be that making yourself adjust accordingly
basing up into the situation or condition that you are into.
About loans? Thats where I draw my line. Temptation is real, I know. "What if?" How about the big win, turnaround, or glory on the next bet? From someone who's seen the ups and downs, gaming should be enjoyment, not financial recovery. If you can, have fun flipping. Note that your money is at stake. Most important? Gamble for fun, keep your budget in mind, and never stay up late.

The power of responsible enjoyment has always impressed me. Its too brief not to enjoy life's pleasures, including a gamble. Bet your money, not borrowed fantasies. That way, win or lose, you're always safe, keeping the enjoyment alive, and insuring tomorrow's delight and laughter. Maintain levity and appropriately enjoy the good times.

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January 28, 2024, 03:34:12 PM
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There is no best nest using borrowed money for gambling. If you expect to double the borrowed money then it is better not to gamble. Most of the people who lost assets in my area (land, house, gold) other valuables were due to gambling. They cannot do capital management, mentally, so they do not have the awareness to stop to increase suffering. But I also believe there are 1 in 100 people who can succeed with borrowed money. But I'm sure they mastered mentality and management. They are not addicted, but they can make gambling a job.

I see lots of people asking others for more money to play so that they can just minimize the risk. Still, most of them have forced others to give them more money to play. In the end, they were being avoided because they cannot seem to understand that they are not asking anymore but nagging others to give them is what makes other people avoid them for good and this is itself the worst-case scenario for a person because in reality he is also losing some real friends as well. But taking a loan for gambling is one of the worst-case scenarios because if he loses it, he will end up taking more loans.

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January 28, 2024, 04:01:25 PM
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Of course, as a gambler, we must be able to limit our money when betting and adjust to the financial budget we have, in other words, don't force bets if we can't afford it because if this continues then we will definitely get into trouble. of the impact of the risks involved in gambling. .
And in my opinion, if you don't have extra money to gamble, you shouldn't borrow from the bank because that is a fatal mistake.
There is no best nest using borrowed money for gambling. If you expect to double the borrowed money then it is better not to gamble. Most of the people who lost assets in my area (land, house, gold) other valuables were due to gambling. They cannot do capital management, mentally, so they do not have the awareness to stop to increase suffering. But I also believe there are 1 in 100 people who can succeed with borrowed money. But I'm sure they mastered mentality and management. They are not addicted, but they can make gambling a job.

Obviously, if someone uses borrowed money to gamble, it is not a good behavior for him, but he will fall into the abyss of decline in life. Yes, that's right, don't expect too much money from gambling because gambling is not a way to make money but to spend money quickly. For people who are addicted, they clearly cannot control their thoughts and mentality when gambling, it could be that emotional feelings and greed take over them so they cannot use their common sense properly.
Returning to each person's personality, if there is 1 in 100 people who are able to control themselves in gambling then they will not experience anything bad from the effects of the risks of gambling, but I am sure they will not make gambling a form of it. work but only as entertainment for himself.
Many gamblers always feel that gambling loans will be settled quickly after they win and besides, they have another insurance which is their monthly salary, that makes them worry less about the results later but from these small loans, they fall into pressure behind, in addition to living expenses, they shoulder additional expenses from the loan and moreover, the loan does not stop at just one number, it advances exponentially. When it comes to loans and gambling, it is like we will have huge debt levels in the future when these are indecipherable problems.
The gambler who thinks in this direction is unwise because a loan can only make you spend your future money faster and it is never an insurance for gamblers. Even if you would spend future money faster through loans, it shouldn't be on gambling, this is an activity that is never uncertain, it is not an investment but a risk-taking activity that will either end with a good or bad outcome. If such is not certain, then why are gamblers securing loans to gamble if they are wise and truly with their senses? This is just absurd to me and addiction at work, it shows a higher degree of irresponsibility because gambling will never be substituted for a business or an investment or a project which loan taking is rightly known for, it is such that will ever be subjected to a low probability of winning, so why eat your future because of it?

It pains me when I hear the unspeakable things that people are doing because of gambling, this could only be emotion at work and not themselves anymore. If it gets to that level, I believe that everyone should just pause and ask themselves if they are still normal. And if carefully self-diagnosed, I know that the answer will always be negative (No). This means that they are not normal again and it is clear from the way they handle their gambling to the point of securing a loan to gamble which has a high possibility that they will lose. They will now be paying the money painfully and still pay interest on it. It could also be worse if it's the loan app that granted them the loan, which means that they will be paying an insane interest along with it.

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