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November 28, 2023, 03:05:05 PM
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I've get to know that not all gamblers need to be a responsible gambler, some knows, they are not hypnotized by gambling, they are fully awake and they still choose to be a reckless gambler.

You forgot to mention what’s the financial of this guy whether he is ultra rich, poor or middle class because this understandable if he has a lot of money to spare on gambling in exchange for entertainment but this is alarming if he is just poor or average wealth that has family to support.

We have different reasons on why we gamble and probably this guy has something he believes that’s why he keeps on trying. His action is really alarming for us but we don’t know the full story and his financial status to make a proper assessment on his action.

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November 28, 2023, 03:17:44 PM
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Its hard to tell if he has a secret stash of wealth, given that he seems indifferent to losing large sums of money. It's not impossible, as weve seen some people in the crypto world become quite wealthy after investing in a seemingly worthless coin and selling it at its peak. We don't know the full extent of his situation, nor do we understand the reasons for his behavior. If hes truly addicted to gambling and doesn't care about the consequences, it's best to leave him alone and focus on some people who would listen to your advice or need your advice.
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November 28, 2023, 03:22:56 PM
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I've get to know that not all gamblers need to be a responsible gambler, some knows, they are not hypnotized by gambling, they are fully awake and they still choose to be a reckless gambler.

You forgot to mention what’s the financial of this guy whether he is ultra rich, poor or middle class because this understandable if he has a lot of money to spare on gambling in exchange for entertainment but this is alarming if he is just poor or average wealth that has family to support.

We have different reasons on why we gamble and probably this guy has something he believes that’s why he keeps on trying. His action is really alarming for us but we don’t know the full story and his financial status to make a proper assessment on his action.
This is true, if he's still that playing until now then it do basically means that he's a rich guy on which sustaining for too long despite of losses instead of win then it is safe to assume that he do have
tons of money because if someone who do have less or not really that financially capable then it is really safe to say that someone is really just that poor or average.
Just let him be on what are the things that he would be planning to do because if we do tend to look at at it then it would really be that just that normal that its none of our business on how they would be spending their money. If they dont care about their losses then so be it.

People would usually stop on the time that they are experiencing hardship but if not then expect that they will continue as they please, as long they do have the money
that they could spend and have the funds that they could be able to make use on. People would usually be that stopping completely if they werent that
capable on doing so and this had been always the concept.

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November 28, 2023, 03:31:36 PM
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Usually people's habits like this are the result of having a large source of income, they never seem to care about whatever results they get, as long as they can entertain themselves in their own way, they will continue to spend their money even though they often lose. To me, this type of person doesn't seem strange, I often encounter gamblers who are reckless and continue to play even though they often lose. As long as his passion is channeled and can feel the excitement afterwards, he will continue to gamble his money even though it seems crazy to other people. He played his own way, he also risked money he was ready to lose. So there is nothing wrong with this person, as long as he does not harm others, that is his responsibility.

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November 28, 2023, 03:48:19 PM
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People are subjective on their approaches regards different contexts and situations they face in life. It may look uncommon and curious for us to see someone losing 6 figures and still not displaying any concern about their losses and the directions their lives are taking, but it does happen and there isn't much we can do about it. You can try encouraging him to change his behavior and to seek for help to treat his addiction, but since he doesn't care at all, I believe he will hardly ever listen to you.

It makes me guess money isn't an issue for this guy, as he can lose hundreds of thousands without any regrets, but I also know people who don't have any pennies on their pockets and still behave the same way spending money with gambling and alcohol in a daily basis. So, only a very deep and careful study over each of those individuals can bring us a clearer conclusion about these cases.

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November 28, 2023, 03:54:50 PM
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There is some certain amount of money that you will lose and you will be so pissed and probably quit, but not this guy.

I've been talking a lot about how people should learn to be a responsible gambler but there is a crazy gambler that I just meet, from a friends friend, the crazy thing about this person is how about how much he has lost in gambling, enough to go south in the ear of others and he has never made any big gains to cover what he has lost, the crazy part is...

This guy is giving me a weird vibe, like a different gambling breed, he knows he have the gambling addiction problem but he just doesn't care, like for real, he doesn't care, the amount he has lost is in six figures but very weird how he is able to handle it.

It's weird as you narrate the story but I think he is a kind of person that is responsible, not just about gambling but I mean his life because on a normal day, he will sit down for some minutes and think about his life and give it some thoughts and find a good solution to it, no way. You can't be gambling and be having losses and then you keep playing despite knowing that you are doing the wrong thing, I don't think the money he wager are from his pocket, you can't waste your hard earned money carelessly.

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Some gamblers are different breed to be honest, they don't care about what their present situation is, if they are breathing they are good, anyone know crazy gambler who don't care if they lose big amount of money and they still gamble?

I've get to know that not all gamblers need to be a responsible gambler, some knows, they are not hypnotized by gambling, they are fully awake and they still choose to be a reckless gambler.

I think he is either influence because of friends or he is a spoilt brat, an average person that works hard take his money will not bet carelessly, even if you are doing it for the fun, there is a limit to how you play and when you play. Trust me, in some years to come, he is going to regret things he has done, if he has used that money to feed his belly, it's even better than waste it or perhaps better use to invest into something tangible, not gambling.

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November 28, 2023, 04:00:57 PM
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I've get to know that not all gamblers need to be a responsible gambler, some knows, they are not hypnotized by gambling, they are fully awake and they still choose to be a reckless gambler.

That guy can be considered a one-in-a-thousand gambler, as a gambler you know it hurts when you lose some gamblers feel it even if it is a small amount, and some gamblers stop playing for a period of time when they lose a big amount of money.
For a gambler to lose a huge amount of money and not feel the hurt of losing that amount, this guy is not playing for the outcome anymore, he is playing for the perks or for the thrill and he doesn't care about the money.
He can do this because he has the mean, I have read stories of this kind of stuff from super-rich people from oil-rich countries, they don't care about the amount of money because money keeps flowing to their bank.

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November 28, 2023, 04:12:52 PM
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It is obvious that the guy in the story believes so much in gambling and is hoping to cash out big someday. 
I see no different in his approach from a business owner who makes losses and still, he/she invests more because they believe in the idea and there's a growth stage that would require much investing in.

More than an addiction, this gambling issue to this guy is a hobby, an obsession and am sure not gambling in a day would have same effect as a drug addict who hasn't had their drugs for the day.

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November 28, 2023, 04:15:47 PM
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I believe you already know how someone who is addicted to something behave, not to talk about addicted gambler, you see, if someone is addicted to gamble to the extent of selling landed properties or something very important just because of a selfish reason, I think it will be very hard for such person to quit bets.
Losing in gamble is not something one will not feel for, even though you are gambling for fun or for profits you must feel bad when you lose, but those who allows the love of gamble to take over their mindset are not thinking straight at all.

That guy can be considered a one-in-a-thousand gambler, as a gambler you know it hurts when you lose some gamblers feel it even if it is a small amount, and some gamblers stop playing for a period of time when they lose a big amount of money.
For a gambler to lose a huge amount of money and not feel the hurt of losing that amount, this guy is not playing for the outcome anymore, he is playing for the perks or for the thrill and he doesn't care about the money.
He can do this because he has the mean, I have read stories of this kind of stuff from super-rich people from oil-rich countries, they don't care about the amount of money because money keeps flowing to their bank.
I agree with what you have said, even if the gambler is receiving free money that he or she do not worked for, he or she will still feel it sometimes, I believe that nobody in this world sees losing as gaining, so if the gambler is losing and not gaining, I think some days he might have be talking to him self to stop but since he has no discipline he's finding it difficult to stop gamble or give it a break.

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November 28, 2023, 04:16:01 PM
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Most of these things has a lot to do with choice and intent, from your story it's obvious the guy isn't gambling to make money, most likely he is gambling just for fun and entertainment so whenever he loses it doesn't get to him that much, again probably because he might have more than enough.

The reason of his craziness in gambling can be for varring reasons but then it's a really huge loss, I mean loosing in six figures is such a huge loss that it will take someone with more than enough or someone who is filthy Rich to handle it without much emotions and further intent to quit. There are also people out there who just enjoy gambling a d are passionate about it so regardless of the amount they loose they will always come back.

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Some gamblers are different breed to be honest, they don't care about what their present situation is, if they are breathing they are good, anyone know crazy gambler who don't care if they lose big amount of money and they still gamble?

I've get to know that not all gamblers need to be a responsible gambler, some knows, they are not hypnotized by gambling, they are fully awake and they still choose to be a reckless gambler.

I have heard about such kind of gamblers as well, but never met anyone like that in person. How can you sustain a life of gambling addiction where you are losing so much money? I know addictions are terrible and the people suffering from it are not acting rational anymore, but how could you ever let get it so far? Personally, I like to keep track of my gambling spending as much as possible, this includes writing down how much money I spend each month and give myself a fixed budget for each week to gamble with. Like that I try to keep in control of my gambling habits over the last few years and avoid the risk of accumulating large losses. It is one thing to have a few bad weeks and lose 500 or even 1,000 USD in gambling, but once that number gets close to 10,000 or even 100,000 USD we should be realising that something is terribly wrong. I mean that is so much money, that even if we are running really lucky for a long period of time it's not realistic to recover from such a loss. Eventually we need to accept reality and give in to the losses we piled up over the past, because chasing losses is just going to lead to even higher losses. Everybody can have a reckless night of gambling, especially after drinking some alcohol I found myself gambling way out of my limits. Once, I sobered up the next day I realised that I took it to far and should not do the same mistake again. It's important to be responsible and reflect on our gambling journey to try and learn from our mistakes.

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I don't think it's an example to follow or to be "proud".
I also know people who use drugs indiscriminately and don't care about all the consequences with evil addiction, but I don't think they are people to be appreciated for what they do.
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Gambling is about entertainment after all is said and done. Surely there are rich people who just enjoy the ride and don’t need to worry about being in it for the money. Some people spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in a strip club during a night and thing that it was money well spent. Everything is relative and some perspectives are just different.

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Some people remember from previous posts that I sometimes read gamblers stories. So, of all the ones I read, I was most surprised by one of them. He is already 40 years old and he streams gambling, he is forced to do this because he is deeply in debt and drives even more people there and he doesn't care at all that they can ruin their destinies. He can lose any amount of money. And as you said, he doesn’t care about anything as long as he’s breathing or until he’s physically affected (for example, they put him behind bars and he won’t be able to play). Until they doing this, he will always find a computer and do this constantly. I don’t understand what’s going on in his head, but there are such people and they are among us, although you don’t meet them often. I don’t understand how his parents will feel when they find out about the amounts he lost. These are the people I would call completely addicted to gambling. They are dangerous to society, it seems to me that he could break loose at one moment, although they look very harmless.

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November 28, 2023, 07:47:10 PM
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It's difficult for a person when they're playing not to care about the losses, what people have done is disguise the feelings they have during the game, for example if a person is in the physical casino and is losing money, then that person cannot crying in the casino, that would be shameful and the casino security guards would take that person out of the casino and probably ban him from returning to that same casino. If a person goes to a physical casino and loses money and can't win and then gets angry and starts fighting with other players and also destroys things in the casino, then that person risks being arrested and will have to pay for the damage he has done. at the casino. Therefore, there is no point in acting out of emotion in the casino.

I don't think it's an example to follow or to be "proud".
I also know people who use drugs indiscriminately and don't care about all the consequences with evil addiction, but I don't think they are people to be appreciated for what they do.
A gambler who gambles so much that he loses such amounts could more than anything else "bet" in other aspects of life and not just in betting.

There are people who spend a lot of money traveling and stay in the most expensive hotels and these people are not criticized, when these people travel they are not investing the money, the money they spent on traveling will not come back, when people spend a lot of money when staying in hotels luxury, that money will not come back. This is no different from taking the same money you would pay for a luxury hotel and playing in a casino. When people spend money buying beers, they don't make any profit from it, but if someone takes the same amount of money that other people take to buy beers and goes to play in a casino, then that person will be criticized. people have a tendency to demonize gambling

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November 28, 2023, 07:52:18 PM
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Some people remember from previous posts that I sometimes read gamblers stories. So, of all the ones I read, I was most surprised by one of them. He is already 40 years old and he streams gambling, he is forced to do this because he is deeply in debt and drives even more people there and he doesn't care at all that they can ruin their destinies. He can lose any amount of money. And as you said, he doesn’t care about anything as long as he’s breathing or until he’s physically affected (for example, they put him behind bars and he won’t be able to play). Until they doing this, he will always find a computer and do this constantly. I don’t understand what’s going on in his head, but there are such people and they are among us, although you don’t meet them often. I don’t understand how his parents will feel when they find out about the amounts he lost. These are the people I would call completely addicted to gambling. They are dangerous to society, it seems to me that he could break loose at one moment, although they look very harmless.

i don't see them as a danger to society but only to themselves. but if they have responsibilities like a wife and kids, he really needs to be slapped. parent will get hurt but thats just what they can do.  it will hurt them more if the person is in prison.

i know one gambler from my childhood, he used to be my buddy in my old town. he is the son of a fisherman, considerably middle class who owns a big boat but he turned out to be a gambler. i go out to college and he stays in the fishing community so when i got back after years, i saw him already a banker in a mini gambling house in our area.

one story i heard about him from friends also was that he won a huge amount and then suddenly spends like a sailor in our village. when all his money was gone, no friends came to help him. his wife died hungry hugging an empty casserole but this part i made it up.  Grin









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There is some certain amount of money that you will lose and you will be so pissed and probably quit, but not this guy.

I've been talking a lot about how people should learn to be a responsible gambler but there is a crazy gambler that I just meet, from a friends friend, the crazy thing about this person is how about how much he has lost in gambling, enough to go south in the ear of others and he has never made any big gains to cover what he has lost, the crazy part is...

This guy is giving me a weird vibe, like a different gambling breed, he knows he have the gambling addiction problem but he just doesn't care, like for real, he doesn't care, the amount he has lost is in six figures but very weird how he is able to handle it.

Some gamblers are different breed to be honest, they don't care about what their present situation is, if they are breathing they are good, anyone know crazy gambler who don't care if they lose big amount of money and they still gamble?

I've get to know that not all gamblers need to be a responsible gambler, some knows, they are not hypnotized by gambling, they are fully awake and they still choose to be a reckless gambler.
Well, as you've said that he's in deep gambling addiction, so he is now unable to control himself anymore and just gamble whenever he wanted to gamble. If he lose, that's okay because he's actually ready for it, and probably he knows that he can never take an edge over the casino house so he just gamble just to feel satisfied even if it means losing a lot of money.

I guess there's no weird about him, that's how most gambling addicts behave most especially if they have a lot of money to bet and lose. And if ever all his funds have already used up, I don't think he'd be able to gamble again, unless if he has still some assets to bet.

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November 28, 2023, 08:21:01 PM
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I've get to know that not all gamblers need to be a responsible gambler, some knows, they are not hypnotized by gambling, they are fully awake and they still choose to be a reckless gambler.
Some gamblers have accepted their fate which is a responsible gambling. They know they do it, they know that they are addicted to it and you have accepted it. For them it is what is the worst that can happen. After all, they have lost everything and have nothing else to use. Trying to advise or tell them why they should gamble responsibly is veaste of time. When I meet these people, I leave them alone with whatever idealogy that's behind their gambling. It's live and let live.

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November 28, 2023, 08:26:12 PM
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There is some certain amount of money that you will lose and you will be so pissed and probably quit, but not this guy.

I've been talking a lot about how people should learn to be a responsible gambler but there is a crazy gambler that I just meet, from a friends friend, the crazy thing about this person is how about how much he has lost in gambling, enough to go south in the ear of others and he has never made any big gains to cover what he has lost, the crazy part is...

This guy is giving me a weird vibe, like a different gambling breed, he knows he have the gambling addiction problem but he just doesn't care, like for real, he doesn't care, the amount he has lost is in six figures but very weird how he is able to handle it.

Some gamblers are different breed to be honest, they don't care about what their present situation is, if they are breathing they are good, anyone know crazy gambler who don't care if they lose big amount of money and they still gamble?

I've get to know that not all gamblers need to be a responsible gambler, some knows, they are not hypnotized by gambling, they are fully awake and they still choose to be a reckless gambler.
He lost that much and still has the financial capacity to continue then therefore he just can afford his losses. Details are lacking, have you asked him if he is still under his control or not. Maybe that's just his betting habits and if that's so we cannot do anything to change it. Also, how did you confirm that he's addicted and that he's aware of it? 'coz if this is just an assumption then you're the wrong one here.

I've get to know that not all gamblers need to be a responsible gambler, some knows, they are not hypnotized by gambling, they are fully awake and they still choose to be a reckless gambler.
Some gamblers have accepted their fate which is a responsible gambling. They know they do it, they know that they are addicted to it and you have accepted it. For them it is what is the worst that can happen. After all, they have lost everything and have nothing else to use. Trying to advise or tell them why they should gamble responsibly is veaste of time. When I meet these people, I leave them alone with whatever idealogy that's behind their gambling. It's live and let live.
Unless that person is important to you. It would be a normal response to be concerned of him and to offer help to make possible changes. But if it is total strangers the  unfortunately, he'd only change by his initiative and no other people would be able to do that.

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November 28, 2023, 08:31:13 PM
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Its hard to tell if he has a secret stash of wealth, given that he seems indifferent to losing large sums of money. It's not impossible, as weve seen some people in the crypto world become quite wealthy after investing in a seemingly worthless coin and selling it at its peak. We don't know the full extent of his situation, nor do we understand the reasons for his behavior. If hes truly addicted to gambling and doesn't care about the consequences, it's best to leave him alone and focus on some people who would listen to your advice or need your advice.
I think the person is wealthy and he don't care if he wins or not, only a wealthy man can stick to gambling to that extend, and if he doesn't give a damn I don't see any need convincing the person. It's best to advice the people who are willing to learn and change. But to be honest I think with the amount of advice you give to an addict that person will never change so it's best to let them do what they know best

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