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November 28, 2023, 10:03:06 AM
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Recently I observed that symmetric, formerly known as Ratimov fell out of love with some of the forum activities. I do not know why because he didn't make any thread to why.
I also know he had two threads which helped newbies and other ranks close to the next rank with upto 25 to 50 merits.
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Although I haven't benefited from any of the threads because it wasn't difficult for me to get my first 100 merits. Going to senior member, my movement is as slow as a snail and that reminds me that I will be needing a help at some points and likewise other low rank members.
I know people are missing the kind gesture already but they might be afraid to speak up not to get into troubles.

The reason for this thread is plead with any merit source to re-start a similar thread. I have seen some merit sources who say they don't exhaust their merit allocation. Such a thread could help ease their merit distribution stress and also serve as a reference point where other merit sources could look into to spray some merits.

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November 28, 2023, 10:09:52 AM
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Yes that thread was a beneficial one, but it wants Ratimove personal decision, there are other merit sources that have their own way of distributing their merits example is The Sceptical Chymist who prefers PM for personal review and also hugeblack who has his own thread for local Board. Some of this things are not easy as you see and are tiring or could even affect the merit source outside forum schedule. So I will say they should do there thing

Also there is another thread by Fivestar4everMVP on merit countdown that members can drop their application because other merits sources also go there to help

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November 28, 2023, 10:11:38 AM
Merited by The Sceptical Chymist (3), fillippone (3), Xal0lex (2), ABCbits (1)
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The topic that perfectly same like you asked:
1. [v2][Self Moderated] In Merits, Count Down To Your Next Rank...

Bonus (related to meriting someone post):
1. [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source
2. *Restarted* Post history review offer
3. [Merit] Share your best posts/threads with Fillippone to be merit assessed

So, what you need next? every merit source has it's own policy, rule or subjectivity to merit someone post.
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November 28, 2023, 10:20:52 AM
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The topic that perfectly same like you asked:
1. [v2][Self Moderated] In Merits, Count Down To Your Next Rank...

Bonus (related to meriting someone post):
1. [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source
2. *Restarted* Post history review offer
3. [Merit] Share your best posts/threads with Fillippone to be merit assessed

So, what you need next? every merit source has it's own policy, rule or subjectivity to merit someone post.
There is one more to add to it.

[Merit] Help posts in local boards that did not receive enough merits

Another thing is that theymos should increase the merit sources. He can also remove some merit source. I hardly notice 50 active merit sources among the 109 merit sources that we have.

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November 28, 2023, 10:38:57 AM
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So, what you need next? every merit source has it's own policy, rule or subjectivity to merit someone post.

What is your point exactly?
If any merit source decides to open a similar thread like this one, does it defy any policy or rule. Will it be a bad idea if any merit source decides to open such a thread, even if there are similar threads.. Or do you like to counter every possible idea?

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November 28, 2023, 10:55:54 AM
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Another thing is that theymos should increase the merit sources. He can also remove some merit source. I hardly notice 50 active merit sources among the 109 merit sources that we have.
I feel like merit distribution is always increase every year, there are many unknown users ranked up easily by merit sharing with their alts or friends. Instead of asking a new merit source, I'd ask a de-merit feature.

If any merit source decides to open a similar thread like this one, does it defy any policy or rule. Will it be a bad idea if any merit source decides to open such a thread, even if there are similar threads.. Or do you like to counter every possible idea?
And this is what the Beginners & Help or Reputation sections looks like when many merit sources to create their own thread. Then you or any user will request theymos to create a dedicated board for merit giveaway, when it's not necessary at all if the first problem wasn't created.

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November 28, 2023, 11:01:00 AM
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Recently I observed that symmetric, formerly known as Ratimov fell out of love with some of the forum activities. I do not know why because he didn't make any thread to why.

You still haven't learned that the forum is much bigger than the few boards you mostly visit? The reason you are looking for is in the Reputation board.

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The reason for this thread is plead with any merit source to re-start a similar thread. I have seen some merit sources who say they don't exhaust their merit allocation. Such a thread could help ease their merit distribution stress and also serve as a reference point where other merit sources could look into to spray some merits.


I have never considered this a desirable way of distributing merits, although I understand that some members simply remain out of reach of most merit sources because they reduce their activities mainly to boards that are full of spam and megathreads. Maybe all those who so eagerly want merits should change their strategy a little, and not look for their "success" in an easy way.

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November 28, 2023, 11:07:44 AM
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I'm not sure if Ratimov's thread can be replaced or any other merit source can continue from where he stopped.
I really don't know him that much like some of you members who have stayed for long in this Forum but I don't know or understand why things with him hasn't been the same, like he left without any better explanation. Ratimov thread really helped so many members in this Forum, wish he could come back.

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November 28, 2023, 11:19:52 AM
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I remember that Ratimov stopped sending merits for about several months ago and the current stop may be temporary but merit sources spend merits on a voluntary basis and therefore just like the majority of people whenever they have free time they will spend.

I created this topic -----> [Merit] Help posts in local boards that did not receive enough merits , but it is the end of the year, and in my country, in the last two months, the work will be more, as the previous budget is closed, so I do not have enough free time. As soon as I have it, I may return one of @Ratimov’s ideas if he does not do so.

The most important thing is to focus on making high-quality posts and the merits will come sooner or later.

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November 28, 2023, 11:20:56 AM
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I also know he had two threads which helped newbies and other ranks close to the next rank with upto 25 to 50 merits.
I made this post earlier this month:
I've been slacking (and ill), and my source sMerits keep building up. I'm planning to do this:
If you have 150 source merit and you only see 3 merit-worthy posts in a month, then I'd rather you over-give each of them 50 merit than let the merit expire. That way there are more people capable of sending merit, and the "merit economy" is less top-down.
I don't think I'll drop 50 sMerits on a random Newbie, higher ranks are welcome too.

I'm still a tad critical who to accept, but anyone with decent posts is more than welcome to post a few links. Make it easy on me, don't make me read through your post history.

Bonus (related to meriting someone post):
1. [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source
I opened that thread 2.5 years before Ratimov opened his. I did it to prove a point: not many good posts go unmerited.

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November 28, 2023, 11:38:47 AM
Merited by philipma1957 (50)
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I have my own merit distribution thread.
I am using it when my merit bag start growing too much.
Lately I am on a constant low level of merits, I found myself dry of merits for a few days, so I have been slacking on that thread.
I am sorry a merit source gave up sending merits, yet I feel the forum has plenty of opportunities for a good post to be noticed.

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November 28, 2023, 01:13:23 PM
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It is better for merit sources to just go around and look at topics and try to dump their merits where they see fit instead of calling everyone (including spammers / alt-accounts and such people) to their own thread. That is the approach which I use, and it is not like Ratimov is the only merit source on this forum anyway.

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November 28, 2023, 02:27:58 PM
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I'm not sure if Ratimov's thread can be replaced or any other merit source can continue from where he stopped.
I really don't know him that much like some of you members who have stayed for long in this Forum but I don't know or understand why things with him hasn't been the same, like he left without any better explanation. Ratimov thread really helped so many members in this Forum, wish he could come back.
You are quite right about this and I'm sure there are users who wish the same thing the op has said but for me, it's best to not depend on these merit sources for your next rank up because it may make you not put inore effort to hustle for yours and you'd easily get affected if such an action gets stopped.
It can be quite telling to do such things and still maintain your online presence and while we really can't place or give a reason for Ratimov going AWOL, I feel the guy needs a break to process.  Grin

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What is your point exactly?
If any merit source decides to open a similar thread like this one, does it defy any policy or rule. Will it be a bad idea if any merit source decides to open such a thread, even if there are similar threads.. Or do you like to counter every possible idea?
Don't ever worry about it - you should not depend on such threads if you have good knowledge and skills in creating quality posts. Not only will you get merit from merit sources - while other users who have sMerit will also pay attention to your posts, so again don't rely on such things. Several other merit thread are still active - in fact you can still use them to get some merit if you have quality posts.

Of course creating such a thread isn't against the rules - but forcing merit source to do might not be a good idea. I see a lot of merit sources really ddon't like being forced to spend the sMerit they have - but of course it would be good if you found a powerful way to get your posts noticed by merit sources, especially because of their quality.

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November 28, 2023, 03:07:46 PM
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So, what you need next? every merit source has it's own policy, rule or subjectivity to merit someone post.

What is your point exactly?
If any merit source decides to open a similar thread like this one, does it defy any policy or rule. Will it be a bad idea if any merit source decides to open such a thread, even if there are similar threads.. Or do you like to counter every possible idea?

Seems like he made his point clear and basically answered your questions already.  It's not like Ratimov kicked off the first merit-sharing thread here, and he likely won't be the last one either.  So pretty obviously there ain't exactly rules against people starting up these kinds of threads if they want, regardless of whether they are merit sources or not.

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November 28, 2023, 03:39:26 PM
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I read OP and as far as I understand, it seems you are seeking other forum members especially merit sources to give you merits and if you ask me what it means is that you are gettingi them to send you merits and because of that, you can see that no one merited you here. When I read the OP, I thought you are going to start the same thread or similar thread that you have mentioned. It's not against the forum where you create threads like that either you are s merit source or not.

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November 28, 2023, 03:40:19 PM
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I feel the guy needs a break to process.  Grin

He needs a break?
I don't think he needs a break. If you feel he needs a break, what would you say to other merit source? They need a vacation? Common, everyone of them (merit sources) choose to take that responsibility to serve the public (at least to merit any quality post) of being a merit source and they know the pressure that comes with it so I don't really think I'd agree with you on what you said about Ratimov needing a break.
Yes he might need a break but not by shutting down what he has already started, something isn't right.

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November 28, 2023, 04:04:37 PM
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I feel like merit distribution is always increase every year, there are many unknown users ranked up easily by merit sharing with their alts or friends. Instead of asking a new merit source, I'd ask a de-merit feature.
Its not that merit shared is increasing, its more about having fever active members each year (especially new ones) which then gives impression that amount of merit shared has been constantly increasing. Before theymos did the last merit readjustment 2 and a half years ago (and basically doubled monthly merit allocation) there were 50%+ more active members and 50%+  fewer merit sent (those numbers are probably even bigger) on the monthly basis, which then made it much harder to rank up. Situation now is diametrically opposite which makes it much easier for shitposters to rank up, especially since its usually not their first account so they are experienced when it comes to merit farming.

At the same time, some parts of the forum are still undermerited and I hope that theymos will sort that out as well in the future, along with maybe decreasing merit allocation for some boards.

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November 28, 2023, 04:18:23 PM
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I read OP and as far as I understand, it seems you are seeking other forum members especially merit sources to give you merits and if you ask me what it means is that you are gettingi them to send you merits and because of that, you can see that no one merited you here. When I read the OP, I thought you are going to start the same thread or similar thread that you have mentioned. It's not against the forum where you create threads like that either you are s merit source or not.

Not exactly what he said but rather just to continue what Ratimov doing by providing merits to those who's near to rank up. Ratimov does a great job on his merit thread because he is the one who checks each user profile voluntarily without the need to request on him as long as your merit is within the range he set.

This is indeed a great service but time consuming and I doubt that all merit source is willing to spare their free time just browse those users that near to rank up and review all of their post history.


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November 28, 2023, 04:24:21 PM
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What is your point exactly?
If any merit source decides to open a similar thread like this one, does it defy any policy or rule. Will it be a bad idea if any merit source decides to open such a thread, even if there are similar threads.. Or do you like to counter every possible idea?
I think that's not what Despairo was trying to do here, as you solely talked about Ratimov's thread so maybe He(Despairo) thought you might not be aware of any other merit source threads from where you can get merits by applying. I hope that's what he was trying to say because besides this I don't see him counter this idea.

As a matter of fact, I also benefited from Ratimov's thread AFAIR I also applied in that and gained merit to rank to the nearest position. I liked the thread as it is really motivating for newbies and those who are stuck on merits and not getting any thus not achieving new ranks.

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