Do you think that this is aperfect analogy of how gambling addiction starts?

[Natsuu]

What that start gambling addiction is not about people that do not understand probability. When I was addicted, I understood everything and how I can lose, but I want to earn and make daily income from gambling. I thought I was better and looking for ways to earn money from it, but at the end, it was not a good story at all and I had to quit gambling for a year. This makes me think that others that are addicted is because they want to make money from gambling, looking for different strategies to increase the probability to earn than lose as I did when I was addicted but still nothing worked out as planned but losing money frequently.

I think its because of desperation right? We keep playing thinking that we’ll make up with the losses and we justify our losses just as what OP said, it is because we’re having fun. So, whether it's chasing losses or just enjoying the game, it's this mix of hope and fun that keeps us going, even when the odds might not be in our favor. Thats where addiction start.

[swogerino]

Dopamine is the real addiction kicker,let me tell you a real life example from my personal experience,I asked once a person who played slots with the mechanics of Big Bass/Club Tropicana (you can google those but they give you increasing multiplier and 10 extra free spins if you get the special character 4 times in 10 spins) and he told me,you cannot tell people how you really feel when you are passing all those multipliers and going to the final one,your brain is in great comfort and feeling very good and this is very difficult to undo once you feel that at least once,this is what I mean by dopamine being the real addiction kicker,it does not start out of nowhere.

[dothebeats]

I have come to realize that gambling is remotely fun when you're not winning. You will have to get a lot of wins in order to get the thrill and the dopamine from it. That's why I think a lot of beginner gamblers win - it's for them to get lured and be caught off guard by the system to gamble more and win more. Once that's established, the gambler will then have the choice to decide if gambling is worth it or not. If they only play for entertainment, great. If not, then there will be a problem eventually, for sure.

[Lanatsa]

What that start gambling addiction is not about people that do not understand probability. When I was addicted, I understood everything and how I can lose, but I want to earn and make daily income from gambling. I thought I was better and looking for ways to earn money from it, but at the end, it was not a good story at all and I had to quit gambling for a year. This makes me think that others that are addicted is because they want to make money from gambling, looking for different strategies to increase the probability to earn than lose as I did when I was addicted but still nothing worked out as planned but losing money frequently.

I think its because of desperation right? We keep playing thinking that we’ll make up with the losses and we justify our losses just as what OP said, it is because we’re having fun. So, whether it's chasing losses or just enjoying the game, it's this mix of hope and fun that keeps us going, even when the odds might not be in our favor. Thats where addiction start.

Chasing losses would really be that the main reason on why you would really be that keeping on playing because if you dont and you do see that you are already losing that much then for sure you would stop
but once you've been creating that kind of motive and desperation in mind then it is really that impossible for you to stop until you do get wrecked. This is why gambling industry is really that profitable because
people are really that emotional and really that impulsive when it comes to gambling. Once they do lost, they do get angry and when they do get angry then they would be spending more and the cycle
continues and this is something a very typical thing that do happen in gambling field.

The most important thing is that you shouldn't really be making yourself that get addicted because if you do then it would really be a sure thing that you would
be experiencing financial problems or hardship and this is something that we dont really like for it to happen into our situation. So better to have that
good control if you do like that everything would be smooth.

[Wexnident]

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Louder! I swear the amount of bias people get from people sharing big wins, not to mention their own possible wins, is insane to the point that they'd argue that it's worth the money, time, and effort to continue doing so FOR money. I've always advocated that if you gamble, make sure it's for fun since it never is fun if you only lose money after all. As I've also shared before, people only share wins because they're rare but never losses because it's the usual occurrence for a gambler, so they never really notice said losses.

Well people can still gamble regardless of whatever their goal is. Just don't expect it to return anything to you. It's a game, the most you'd usually expect is thrill and enjoyment. The wins? Just take those in as bonuses.

[Onyeeze]

Nobody that will not give you an excuse of be addicted in gambling because theirs one action I condemn for people who is a gambling addicted bit the don't know how come they managed to be addicted in the gambling so I believe that for someone to be addicted in gambling the person who is addicted contributed at least twenty percent of what makes him or her to be addicted in gambling but sometimes some people don't believe that they are addicted in gambling until people living around there began to tell them what's obtainable in the gambling and why they say that its addicted in gambling

[danherbias07]

I don't think it's just about those who don't understand probability. Gambling addiction is like a sickness that is difficult to erase although I believe there's no pleasure in it anymore. I have a belief that everything that is too much is not enjoyable anymore. It's like a person is just being called to do it without any big reason at all. Habit could become the spark of gambling addiction.
At that moment, the decision-making becomes cloudy, they will forget about probabilities, and would possibly be just playing because they feel like they are being called.
I think those types of gamblers can easily be spotted in today's era when a person directly goes to his computer and starts gambling early in the morning. The inappropriate time spent in gambling will be the red flag that addiction might have affected them.

[avp2306]

Read this transcript of Andreas Analogy of how gambling addiction kicks off and tell me if you think he is right or not. Basically, your opinion.

Gambling is a tax for people who don't understand the mathematics of probability. If you understand how probability works,  you can't ever rationally gamble. The only reason you would gamble is if you decided, "I am going to lose money; the fun I have while I am losing money is worth it." "I am paying a fee for temporary fun." But most people cannot do that. Once you become drawn into the game, the gambling process triggers these responses. You start getting confirmation bias, selection bias, and survivor bias. These are known cognitive biases. The person who wins thinks they were lucky, but they don't think about all the times they lost. As you are doing this, it is triggering your dopamine centers.

People will not think about anything since majority of people gambling addiction comes from curiosity. They usually want to try new things that came out from their mind or outsource anywhere since they caught up on the idea that its fun to gamble or either this is the fastest way for them to earn money. But they didn't know little by little they gat caught up and came to the point that they can't stop since they always think about gambling then their day is not complete without playing this. That's how they get addicted and its so harmful to be on that situation especially if we are dealing with this experience for the first time since we are denial and don't want to get help since we think we are still fine.

[livingfree]

It is a good analogy that you can think of so that you can accept your losses. There are gambler that can't accept themselves when they've been losing a lot.

That's the reason why many are looking for a reason to do this because they think that it's a good consolation for them and it's gonna help them accept lightly their losses.

But if it comes to the point that you're being addicted, that's harder than what it seems to be.

[letteredhub]

Before people starts gamble they  knew that they are gonna lose money only that they refuse to accept that they should lose therefore chasing every loss in the verge for recovery which is how addiction gradually draws in without the gambler knowing. Humans are created with a winning instinct and attachment that's why losing at anything disturbs their mind but when this losing is happening in gambler I think it's better to let it go and not fight it thinking you can recover you'll just get wasted. So it's really not about a gambler not knowing about probability in gambling it's about the gambler as a human being able to accept defeat (losing his money) to not chasing it.

. The person who wins thinks they were lucky, but they don't think about all the times they lost. As you are doing this, it is triggering your dopamine centers.

Yea it's common for gamblers not to think of all the past losses when they hit a  huge win but what about those gamblers that get lucky at their first time to gamble they win  a huge amount of money in the casino. What can you say about this.

[Casdinyard]

I would agree with what he's saying. But the thing is that most gambling addicts are well aware of the chances of them winning from the get-go. The real reason why people are falling off of the deep-end in gambling is primarily the lack of discipline. It's like you know you're gonna get paid anyway the next 2 weeks so you can go a little overboard on the budget as a treat to yourself, and then it snowballs into taking out loans on credit cards and your bank, then to your friends, and then eventually to even shadier situations and people.

I reiterate, I don't think the common gambler's stupid. They have a basic grasp of the odds of them winning. It's the thought that somehow they'd win in their sessions so they should just keep going that's causing them to become addicted to gambling in the process.

[TimeTeller]

I have come to realize that gambling is remotely fun when you're not winning. You will have to get a lot of wins in order to get the thrill and the dopamine from it. That's why I think a lot of beginner gamblers win - it's for them to get lured and be caught off guard by the system to gamble more and win more. Once that's established, the gambler will then have the choice to decide if gambling is worth it or not. If they only play for entertainment, great. If not, then there will be a problem eventually, for sure.

Just like most games, gambling is indeed entertaining and with money involved, it is more thrilling.
To be addicted here is no surprise. Just compare it to how you can easily be addicted with some simple games.
There is no complex reason on this aspect. So even if we don't know such analogy it is quite easy to understand this behavior.
So there may be no perfect analogy explaining the behavior behind such addiction but in my opinion, it is not difficult to explain.

[qwertyup23]

Read this transcript of Andreas Analogy of how gambling addiction kicks off and tell me if you think he is right or not. Basically, your opinion.

Gambling is a tax for people who don't understand the mathematics of probability. If you understand how probability works,  you can't ever rationally gamble. The only reason you would gamble is if you decided, "I am going to lose money; the fun I have while I am losing money is worth it." "I am paying a fee for temporary fun." But most people cannot do that. Once you become drawn into the game, the gambling process triggers these responses. You start getting confirmation bias, selection bias, and survivor bias. These are known cognitive biases. The person who wins thinks they were lucky, but they don't think about all the times they lost. As you are doing this, it is triggering your dopamine centers.

I agree with him.

The problem of gambling stems from the hope that it can potentially give to a certain player. The best example here are slots where you can see dozens of slot machines, each having a significant amount of a grand prize worth millions of dollars respectively. In the eyes of a gambler, this is an opportunity where they can potentially win. Whenever they lose, they think that by gambling again, they can recover their losses.

I just really hope that people should start listening more about the horrors of gambling. It is already the 20th century yet people are still addicted to it. Even if all the resources are available, people still fall victim to gambling, which is very unfortunate.

[bettercrypto]

What that start gambling addiction is not about people that do not understand probability. When I was addicted, I understood everything and how I can lose, but I want to earn and make daily income from gambling. I thought I was better and looking for ways to earn money from it, but at the end, it was not a good story at all and I had to quit gambling for a year. This makes me think that others that are addicted is because they want to make money from gambling, looking for different strategies to increase the probability to earn than lose as I did when I was addicted but still nothing worked out as planned but losing money frequently.

Didn't you find it difficult to recover or get out of the addiction situation that you had when you were addicted to gambling in cryptocurrency? It's good that you overcame these circumstances to get out of this situation.

And probably by now, even if you gamble, you maximize what you do, and you do it as a responsible gambler in the crypto space. Because in reality, once a gambler starts to become an addict, it's really hard to get rid of it. For sure, you had strong determination and dedication in that matter, so you managed the problem of gambling addiction. You made a good decision.

[Iroh]

I have come to realize that gambling is remotely fun when you're not winning. You will have to get a lot of wins in order to get the thrill and the dopamine from it. That's why I think a lot of beginner gamblers win - it's for them to get lured and be caught off guard by the system to gamble more and win more. Once that's established, the gambler will then have the choice to decide if gambling is worth it or not. If they only play for entertainment, great. If not, then there will be a problem eventually, for sure.

Yes, you would have to play and win for you to get some thrill but I think there could also be fun also when winning. And I agree with your opinion on beginners getting lured and sucked into the world of gambling with their first win. That win could motivate just anyone to play more.
For some who choose to indulge in gambling as a means of making an income,  this is the point where their money problems begins. While for others who simply play purely for entertainment purposes are quite safe. Sadly, a whole lot of people have and continuously do gamble in a bid to earn some extra income.

[lionheart78]

Read this transcript of Andreas Analogy of how gambling addiction kicks off and tell me if you think he is right or not. Basically, your opinion.

I highly agree with Andreas Analogy, it is not simply his own analogy but it is based on research of human behavior.  His explanation is backed by sciennce and intensive research on how people get addicted to gambling.

Gambling is a tax for people who don't understand the mathematics of probability. If you understand how probability works,  you can't ever rationally gamble. The only reason you would gamble is if you decided, "I am going to lose money; the fun I have while I am losing money is worth it." "I am paying a fee for temporary fun." But most people cannot do that. Once you become drawn into the game, the gambling process triggers these responses. You start getting confirmation bias, selection bias, and survivor bias. These are known cognitive biases. The person who wins thinks they were lucky, but they don't think about all the times they lost. As you are doing this, it is triggering your dopamine centers.

I suppose this process is happening to every one. Just look at how many replies on different threads that gambling is for entertainment.  This simply meet the condition of  "I am paying a fee for temporary fun.". even with those who are playing for fun, it also triggers the next responses Andreas explained.

[Darker45]

That's why whether we like it or not, gambling is designed to make the gambler lose and the gambling operator win. That's the basic rule in gambling. There's the jackpot, however, and most people find it worth trying to win. But that proverbial jackpot is only hit very seldom. Luck is the word. And luck is unreliable. You simply can't rely on it to make money. So whenever one gambles he/she better have fun. Otherwise, gambling isn't worth it.

[Queentoshi]

The person who wins thinks they were lucky, but they don't think about all the times they lost. As you are doing this, it is triggering your dopamine centers.

If gamblers will think about how many times they have lost and compare it to the number of times they have won, and also the amount they have used gambling which they lost with the amount they have won, it will help them to make the resolve to strike a balance with the amount of money to gamble with and the number of time they will be gambling in a day or week, so that they do not lose so much money. Maintaining a balance is important to stay in control and addiction free from gambling.

[Assface16678]

The person who wins thinks they were lucky, but they don't think about all the times they lost. As you are doing this, it is triggering your dopamine centers.

If gamblers will think about how many times they have lost and compare it to the number of times they have won, and also the amount they have used gambling which they lost with the amount they have won, it will help them to make the resolve to strike a balance with the amount of money to gamble with and the number of time they will be gambling in a day or week, so that they do not lose so much money. Maintaining a balance is important to stay in control and addiction free from gambling.

That's when monitoring is a must. I mean, as a responsible gambler, I think it is important to monitor or record every game or bet you make, the expense, and the win or loss. Many gamblers play only without worrying about their balance until they see it when it reaches zero balances, which will make them eager to recover the loss, and that's when what the OP says about how many gamblers ended up being led to their addiction. So it is very important to be wary and responsible about your account balance before engaging in gambling, because without awareness of your balance or ignoring it, it will make your fun into misery and far worse.

That's why gamblers, or those who want to try gambling out of curiosity and to have fun, should first practice self-control and money management to become aware of their expenses and to limit themselves if needed.

[len01]

I support some of the opinions of people here who say that gambling addiction is actually caused by excessive dopamine, whereas excess of anything causes bad things.
I mean when a gambler cannot control himself to control a mindset that is not too focused on gambling, dopamine certainly will not increase to a greater extent and some of the real supporting factors for me that can make a gambler addicted are just money.

we bet using money and we lose because of money and win also because of money. so the main factor is indeed dopamine and the supporting factor is money which might make us feel loss or pleasure when we win.

so I often say gamble and value whatever money you have to avoid increasing the hormone dopamine in the brain.