Where the mixers will promote their projects?

[robelneo]

After read this thread Mixers to be banned, there's a question popped into my head.

Which site or forum that these centralized mixers will promote their projects?

Or these mixers will don't have any medias to promote except volunteering by themselves? maybe hire someone who willing to shills/spams?

AFAIK there's no rule to promote other site or forum in Bitcointalk, maybe if someone know about decentralized place, feel free to suggest and it might help the mixers.

As long as they have a market they will continue to exist and as long as there are communities and platforms where they can drop and lay out their mixing service, mixer users will look for them, the only problem users will face is finding the legit Bitcoin mixer to fake ones, in the case of Sinbad the issue is there are too many fake sites and phishing sites imitating them.

If you Google the word Bitcoin mixer you will see many reviewers and bloggers, reviewing and blogging about them they will always have platforms to advertise as long as there are platforms that will accept payment to advertise and review their service, if the authorities become aggressive in persecuting these mixers that will be time that their visibility will be limited.

And as long as the general belief is Crypto mixers are not inherently illegal, and as long as there's a market for this tool.

[wallet4bitcoin]

After read this thread Mixers to be banned, there's a question popped into my head.

Which site or forum that these centralized mixers will promote their projects?

Or these mixers will don't have any medias to promote except volunteering by themselves? maybe hire someone who willing to shills/spams?

AFAIK there's no rule to promote other site or forum in Bitcointalk, maybe if someone know about decentralized place, feel free to suggest and it might help the mixers.

The ban of Mixers will expose the mixers to other alternatives ways of marketing and this time, it might be exploited for negative reasons.

Firstly, the chief eason why it's been banned might become the major reason why it will be accommodated elsewhere.

The concerns stated by the Feds have further opened up channels through which it can be used. Most people didn't know that mixers existed in the first place. And now they know it can also be used for negative reasons, this is more than an awareness campaign if you ask me

[NotATether]

I have some spare hosting capacity at Hostinger that I could allocate for this project, but I need to check to make sure my hosting account won't get banned for that (LOL!)

Hostinger is not a good idea, have much more look in depth. There are tons of pirate websites in Russia and it looks like Russian government is more than open to allow someone to host something that has a negative impact or is against the US policy. It would be wiser to use Russian local host that will allow this but it wont' be easy to find if you don't understand Russian.

Isn't Russia trying to pass a regulation to require people to submit their ID before they can buy a VPS?

[Synchronice]

I have some spare hosting capacity at Hostinger that I could allocate for this project, but I need to check to make sure my hosting account won't get banned for that (LOL!)

Hostinger is not a good idea, have much more look in depth. There are tons of pirate websites in Russia and it looks like Russian government is more than open to allow someone to host something that has a negative impact or is against the US policy. It would be wiser to use Russian local host that will allow this but it wont' be easy to find if you don't understand Russian.

Isn't Russia trying to pass a regulation to require people to submit their ID before they can buy a VPS?

Russia is Russia. Russia isn't trying to pass any regulation, if Putin wants, it will be done without like trying to get votes Also, if you know someone and can pay, you can feel free to bypass the law. Russia is not Denmark, Norway or Sweden. What do you think, will Russian pirate websites go down if they require from people to submit their ID before they can buy a VPS? There are professional studios in Russia that make dubs on pirated content. No offense but Russia is really a different beast when it comes to laws and law protection .

[Solosanz]

Yeah I understand the mixers can still promote their projects through Google ads, social medias, someone else articles etc, but unfortunately I don't think they're legit. They're not like Bitcointalk when there's someone get scammed, people will know if the site is scam. They can use trustpilot or attacking their social medias, but I don't trust stranger.

If the site is using weird domain e.g. g00dmixer.com or greatmlxer.com, I know it must be phishing.

But if the domain looks legit enough e.g. goodmixer.com or greatmixer.com, I have no way to make sure it's legit or scam except they're a copycat.

There are few decentralized place such as Nostr. Although i've no idea how mixers should promote their service on such place while remain on-topic on place they visit.

Interesting, but I don't really sure if such place can be used to promote a project, not user friendly and much more like discussing a news. If I want to add, maybe Stacker News is another option.

[Learn Bitcoin]

Probably x.com or Facebook, Google ads?
No? why not? As far as I can see, those services do not even verify what they show in their ads. There was a thread in this forum where someone posted that x.com approved scam or phishing ads. I have seen many times that they do not verify the services. Scammers promote their services through social media. They care about money only.

So, as long as mixers have money to advertise, it won't be hard to continue advertising. But the problem they may face is, they have to find a targeted audience. Everyone is not Bitcoin users on social media.

[examplens]

I've seen some recommendations to go to the altcointalks.com forum.
This is fun, bitcoin services are moving to the altcoin forum, while on the Bitcoin forum, we can't defend against alt/nft/token spam.

The most important question is, will some mixing services make fundamental modifications to be compatible with the changes that have occurred to the forum?

I don't know how this will be feasible, because each of them has forbidden words in the domain name. mixtum, unijoin, mixero, tumbler, yomix... The only thing is that they do everything from the beginning, which means throwing away everything they have invested in their brand so far.

Interestingly, one of the few whose name was not associated with the Bitcoin mixer is Sinbad, who was sanctioned.

[davis196]

Where to promote BTC mixers?
Forums like Cracked.io and Nulled.io(or even hackforums.net). The internet is full of blackhat/hacking/cracking forums.
Discord servers. Telegram groups. Social media profiles on Instagram, X, Facebook. Darkweb directories.
Why do you even care about the promotion of BTC mixers? The owners of those mixers will definitely find a clever way to promote them.
The problem is that nobody would be able to prove the legitimacy of those mixers. Most of them will end up being exit scams and some of them might even be controlled by FBI/CIA.
Or maybe it's time for the Bitcoin mixers to die and all the online criminals will just move to private altcoins like monero.

[tranthidung]

I've seen some recommendations to go to the altcointalks.com forum.
This is fun, bitcoin services are moving to the altcoin forum, while on the Bitcoin forum, we can't defend against alt/nft/token spam.

I joined some forums but Bitcointalk is the best. I like it interface and simplicity than other forums, that is first impression and I never like other forums because of their interfaces and too many ranks, icons that looks very messy. Next is more important, quality posters are in Bitcointalk and other forums can not compete with it.

If you mention about altcoinstalks.com forum, why don't mention about Bitcoingarden forum?
I don't like it too but I summon it here because the admin and owner of Bitcoingarden has an account on Bitcointalk and he is still actively. Maybe waiting for chances to get some prominent members from Bitcointalk to Bitcoingarden. 

This user S3cco

[dkbit98]

Which site or forum that these centralized mixers will promote their projects?

Probably websites with most traffic, but it's their problem to solve.
I speculated that someone will fork bitcointalk forum and move it on different domain, maybe even onion link.
That doesn't mean that anyone should ever use same login details like in bitcointalk forum if that ever happens.

Probably x.com or Facebook, Google ads?

Have you ever seen something like this advertised on google ads?
I almost never see any ads when I browser internet because I use uBlockOrigin and/or DNS blocker, but I saw fake scam mixers being pushed on top of search before.

[Potato Chips]

Speaking of other forums, Royse777 is planning to move one of their campaigns in another platform

From January 1st we will move the campaign to another platform. To get the update please subscribe to my Telegram Channel. We will disclose it very soon and existing participants will receive an offer to partner with the new Mixero promotion.

My guess is it's either on altcointalks or bitcoingarden. I'm not on other forums but perhaps I'll check them out and test the waters. I remember visiting other forum/s yeaaaars ago, there wasn't much activity for stuff I'm interested on but perhaps things have changed now (or will change?).

It'll be interesting to see how this will all play out 

[Learn Bitcoin]

Probably x.com or Facebook, Google ads?

Have you ever seen something like this advertised on google ads?
I almost never see any ads when I browser internet because I use uBlockOrigin and/or DNS blocker, but I saw fake scam mixers being pushed on top of search before.

I am being honest here; I have never seen any mixer ads on Google or Facebook. But I have seen a lot of phishing websites, Ponzi scheme websites were on sponsored slots. Which means those were promoted by paying to the platform. If you talk about a search result, fake websites often appear in the first result, and I don't think Google cares about it.

Usually, I do not use adblockers, and I never needed them because I do not browse the internet for any reason. I mostly spend my time here and sometimes on Facebook and Twitter.

Maybe real mixers did not need to promote their service on those platforms. But, if they want, they might be able to do it as long as they have money.

[PrivacyIsImportant]

I have launched a mixer directory site: mixhub.to / yroltzbszl45er3ii2fhwt4grrcy3mqhsyovveufuhtyqi5oswpu2uid.onion

Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5476445.0

It has the following features:

• Registering and commenting as a Bitcointalk user (in fact the only way to post comments)
• Mixer admin access
• Support ticketing system for data suggestions

The platform already got 3 mixer reps registered and verified today and I expect almost all the listed mixers have their reps onboarded by the end of this month.

[sunsilk]

If they will move on another forum, yeah there could be a rise of the traffics there due to the promotion but it won't be for long. They will just be dissatisfied with the result because Bitcointalk is still different entirely from the other existing bitcoin forums.

And if they're going to do that with the social medias, there's a bigger tendency that they might get locked up due to these centralized social media platforms.

So, like what's said they're likely go to the darknet / deep web.

[NotATether]

I have launched a mixer directory site: mixhub.to / yroltzbszl45er3ii2fhwt4grrcy3mqhsyovveufuhtyqi5oswpu2uid.onion

Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5476445.0

It has the following features:

• Registering and commenting as a Bitcointalk user (in fact the only way to post comments)
• Mixer admin access
• Support ticketing system for data suggestions

The platform already got 3 mixer reps registered and verified today and I expect almost all the listed mixers have their reps onboarded by the end of this month.

It looks great but why are you including Bitcoin addresses in that list?

I don't think these are donation addresses or anything, and also, each user gets their own address for mixing. Because if that wasn't the case then we all know what happens next (for those who don't: trivial identification of which users sent funds to a mixer). So I don't see the need for it.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

Which site or forum that these centralized mixers will promote their projects?

There are platforms indeed that are available for making such promotions if they so wish, but there's this certainty that they can achieve the same result they have been having while on bitcointalk, platforms like cryptotalk may be available for them, despite that they may but experience the level of moderation they would have expected, some mixers may also change their decisions in continuation of mixing service and go for something else when the pressure is too much on regulations from governments.

[PX-Z]

platforms like cryptotalk may be available for them,

That site is no way in compare to other crypto-related forums and its considered as dead, almost no new post there upon checking it. Bitcoingarden or altcointalk and reddit is much more considerable than that cryptotalk.

[Potato Chips]

I have launched a mixer directory site: mixhub.to / yroltzbszl45er3ii2fhwt4grrcy3mqhsyovveufuhtyqi5oswpu2uid.onion

Bookmarked! but could you add fee rates plus minimum deposit amount as well?

It looks great but why are you including Bitcoin addresses in that list?

Most likely for the signed messages/letter of guarantee. I checked a couple of letter of guarantees I had and they matched.

[salad daging]

platforms like cryptotalk may be available for them,

That site is no way in compare to other crypto-related forums and its considered as dead, almost no new post there upon checking it. Bitcoingarden or altcointalk and reddit is much more considerable than that cryptotalk.

The same I see Bitcoingarden forum looks quiet visitors and only a few active posts today means this forum can not be compared with bitcointalk and obviously the difference is too striking.

While altcointalk seems to be filled with spammers and duplicate accounts, just visiting altcointalk there is a Hhampuz account fraudster by launching a freebitcoin signature campaign. 

I'm sure one day they will find a good forum platform for mixer promotion.

[ABCbits]

platforms like cryptotalk may be available for them,

That site is no way in compare to other crypto-related forums and its considered as dead, almost no new post there upon checking it. Bitcoingarden or altcointalk and reddit is much more considerable than that cryptotalk.

But i wonder how many people or user of those website actually care about their privacy? At least on this forum, we know some member claim they take privacy seriously (some even on paranoid level).