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December 06, 2023, 02:17:26 PM
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The same I see Bitcoingarden forum looks quiet visitors and only a few active posts today means this forum can not be compared with bitcointalk and obviously the difference is too striking.
Well, yeah it looks like it, and yeah it's given, no forum can be compared to this forum, even the forum of bitcoin.com that was recently stopped its operation, i mean a year or two years ago i guess.

But i wonder how many people or user of those website actually care about their privacy?
There should be someone who are into it too, but that's something to be speculated, i knew some users here have accounts there as well.

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December 06, 2023, 03:06:28 PM
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Where the mixers will promote their projects?

Is this forum the center of the internet universe? Of course not, which means that there are countless possibilities that mixers are already using, and now they will be additionally motivated to explore some new ones. As things have turned out, I would not only focus on currently banned services, but also on the fact that we can expect that in the future any service that does not have KYC and can in any way serve for illegal activities will be banned on this forum.

I have no doubt that someone will come up with the idea and make bitcointalk V2, of course in such a way that they will not have to be afraid of Big Brother and the consequences resulting from their actions.

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December 06, 2023, 05:41:13 PM
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How can you say that sinbad currently has ACTIVE status when both of their website domains are seized and service is shut down?
Even if they start service again I doubt they are going to use the same name, like they previously changed the name from blender.
I think that even their telegram channel is gone.



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December 06, 2023, 08:29:32 PM
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Is this forum the center of the internet universe?
Interestingly it seems everyone is thinking that this is the center of the internet universe. People are thinking it's the dead end for mixers. They will find a suitable place. I don't think this forum is the only place for them to advertise. They already are advertising in different platforms or how are they making their money?

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December 06, 2023, 08:37:31 PM
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The same I see Bitcoingarden forum looks quiet visitors and only a few active posts today means this forum can not be compared with bitcointalk and obviously the difference is too striking.

While altcointalk seems to be filled with spammers and duplicate accounts, just visiting altcointalk there is a Hhampuz account fraudster by launching a freebitcoin signature campaign.  Grin

I'm sure one day they will find a good forum platform for mixer promotion.
I completely forgot about Bitcoingarden forum. I have account there, they used to send email newsletter once in month, but now I haven't noticed it for a while.
But other forums can't be seriously considered as alternative platforms for advertising. Look at Bitcoingarden forum - what's the point to advertise there when there isn't much activity. I don't even talk about Cryptotalk - it's completely dead spam forum, except Russian board where there is still some activity.

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The same I see Bitcoingarden forum looks quiet visitors and only a few active posts today means this forum can not be compared with bitcointalk and obviously the difference is too striking.
Well, yeah it looks like it, and yeah it's given, no forum can be compared to this forum, even the forum of bitcoin.com that was recently stopped its operation, i mean a year or two years ago i guess.
That's not an argument as nothing can be compared to bitcointalk. I think those companies(mixers) that want to continue to run their campaigns will find other way but even if they launch it with those alternative forums, they'd find little to no success there.

I'm sure one day they will find a good forum platform for mixer promotion.
Maybe or they'll keep their presence hidden from the clearnet and will have to stay on the dark shadows of the underground forum websites that can't be tracked(?).

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December 07, 2023, 03:02:00 AM
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How can you say that sinbad currently has ACTIVE status when both of their website domains are seized and service is shut down?
Even if they start service again I doubt they are going to use the same name, like they previously changed the name from blender.
I think that even their telegram channel is gone.

Because the mixer's admin logged in here on 30th made a post promising an update, but then theymos banned them and locked the topic. Some people said their channel was active after 30th and there is a new .onion link, however, since I don't use Telegram I couldn't confirm that. I've set the state to 'SEIZED' while there is no information on a new .onion.
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But other forums can't be seriously considered as alternative platforms for advertising. Look at Bitcoingarden forum - what's the point to advertise there when there isn't much activity. I don't even talk about Cryptotalk - it's completely dead spam forum, except Russian board where there is still some activity.
Other forums such as altcoinstalks are starting to get crowded, some of the old forum members have started to teleport to other forums (altcoinstalk) see the picture below is no longer familiar some names have registered there, so it is likely that mixer advertising will be there.



Royse has also launched a mixero signature campaign on altcoinstalks and they will start the campaign from December 31st but the thread has been launched today.

You can see the thread here: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=312833.0

Our managers are also discussing or considering continuing the campaign on bitcoingarden and altcoinstalks, this is just waiting for the agreement of the owners and managers.

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Royse has also launched a mixero signature campaign on altcoinstalks and they will start the campaign from December 31st but the thread has been launched today.

You can see the thread here: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=312833.0

Our managers are also discussing or considering continuing the campaign on bitcoingarden and altcoinstalks, this is just waiting for the agreement of the owners and managers.
The wage rate in the new version of the Mixero campaign that Royce launched today on altcointalk is very low, and I do not think that anyone will be encouraged to join it. $1 per post, with an increase in the minimum number of posts per week (30 posts).
If Altcointalk is the best forum in the market in terms of activity and traffic after BitcoinTalk, then it cannot be an alternative to it as an advertising market on which advertising campaigns are able to achieve the best results. Perhaps some companies will be encouraged by the idea of moving the campaign to another forum, but this is only as an experiment and I do not think they will continue with this option for a long time.
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The wage rate in the new version of the Mixero campaign that Royce launched today on altcointalk is very low, and I do not think that anyone will be encouraged to join it. $1 per post, with an increase in the minimum number of posts per week (30 posts).
If Altcointalk is the best forum in the market in terms of activity and traffic after BitcoinTalk, then it cannot be an alternative to it as an advertising market on which advertising campaigns are able to achieve the best results. Perhaps some companies will be encouraged by the idea of moving the campaign to another forum, but this is only as an experiment and I do not think they will continue with this option for a long time.
It's justified if you ask me; I hadn't heard of Altcointalks till now, so I'm guessing it's nowhere as popular as Bitcointalk, and its userbase must be far smaller. From a quick look-around I did, it's certainly not as active, and this probably justifies the lower pay. I don't think I'd bring myself to change forums to join a signature campaign, especially with such a petty amount of money compared to the standards we're used to here, but also because the other forums that have been mentioned here don't inspire me.

Some services will certainly move to other forums, but they're not receiving anywhere close to the traffic we're receiving, so I have my doubts regarding their advertising efficiency.

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Other forums such as altcoinstalks are starting to get crowded, some of the old forum members have started to teleport to other forums (altcoinstalk) see the picture below is no longer familiar some names have registered there, so it is likely that mixer advertising will be there.


Wow this is really interesting, they might can't compete this forum, but having signature campaign obviously will increase the traffic especially if there are more projects are joining to run a signature campaign.

Yeah most of the usernames are really familiar, but I'm not yet see the "big guys" in that forum or they might never ever want to join on there.

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Other forums such as altcoinstalks are starting to get crowded, some of the old forum members have started to teleport to other forums (altcoinstalk) see the picture below is no longer familiar some names have registered there, so it is likely that mixer advertising will be there.


Wow this is really interesting, they might can't compete this forum, but having signature campaign obviously will increase the traffic especially if there are more projects are joining to run a signature campaign.

Yeah most of the usernames are really familiar, but I'm not yet see the "big guys" in that forum or they might never ever want to join on there.
Forget that bud, the big names you are looking for are probably all there already, but you won't know, many of them are already well established on that forum even before now, so, you don't expect their names to appear in the list of new sign-ups.

For example, I have been a users in altcoinstalk since 2020, that is why my name isn't captured on that list, I believe same also, is it with the big names you are looking for, they are all there already, and for those who are already there, they will later on join quietly, at their own convinient time.

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The wage rate in the new version of the Mixero campaign that Royce launched today on altcointalk is very low, and I do not think that anyone will be encouraged to join it. $1 per post, with an increase in the minimum number of posts per week (30 posts).
There are already 4 pages of applications for signature campaign there, so there's obviously interest despite the lower rate. Keep also in mind that on altcointalk there is a "teleport" option so when you create a new account, you can simply sort of transfer your bitcointalk rank so you don't have to start from scratch.

Another thing, just few years ago $50 per week was a bitcointalk signature campaign standard so for many people what altcointalk offers is not bad at all, especially if you see it as side gig, next to the one on bitcointalk.



I wonder if Twitter allows mixers promotion as at the moment that's the most popular platform for crypto advertisement.

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Other forums such as altcoinstalks are starting to get crowded, some of the old forum members have started to teleport to other forums (altcoinstalk) see the picture below is no longer familiar some names have registered there, so it is likely that mixer advertising will be there.


Wow this is really interesting, they might can't compete this forum, but having signature campaign obviously will increase the traffic especially if there are more projects are joining to run a signature campaign.

Yeah most of the usernames are really familiar, but I'm not yet see the "big guys" in that forum or they might never ever want to join on there.
Don't know if it will be a competitor to bitcointalk, but imo that will never happen as bitcointalk will remain the main forum for bitcoin discussions etc.

It was also said by the admin of Altcoinstalks that the forum is not a replacement but an escape for the repressive community, maybe you can see the new policy here: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=312821.msg1452562#msg1452562

It is possible that the forum's big contributors will but here and never teleport, but now we know enough that some users have started to enter the Altcoinstalks forum.

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Other forums such as altcoinstalks are starting to get crowded, some of the old forum members have started to teleport to other forums (altcoinstalk) see the picture below is no longer familiar some names have registered there, so it is likely that mixer advertising will be there.


Wow this is really interesting, they might can't compete this forum, but having signature campaign obviously will increase the traffic especially if there are more projects are joining to run a signature campaign.

Yeah most of the usernames are really familiar, but I'm not yet see the "big guys" in that forum or they might never ever want to join on there.
Don't know if it will be a competitor to bitcointalk, but imo that will never happen as bitcointalk will remain the main forum for bitcoin discussions etc.

It was also said by the admin of Altcoinstalks that the forum is not a replacement but an escape for the repressive community, maybe you can see the new policy here: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=312821.msg1452562#msg1452562

It is possible that the forum's big contributors will but here and never teleport, but now we know enough that some users have started to enter the Altcoinstalks forum.

admin of that forum is very accomodating. anyone who wants to teleport, the admin can do it in less than an hour. if mixers are not welcome here anymore altcoinstalk will take them. although they may not haave a huge number of visitors a month, it will eventually increase when more users are going there.

kind of an active forum when there are tons of logged in users.  once this forum becomes popular too, they will screen advertisers as well.









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Other forums such as altcoinstalks are starting to get crowded, some of the old forum members have started to teleport to other forums (altcoinstalk) see the picture below is no longer familiar some names have registered there, so it is likely that mixer advertising will be there.


Wow this is really interesting, they might can't compete this forum, but having signature campaign obviously will increase the traffic especially if there are more projects are joining to run a signature campaign.

Yeah most of the usernames are really familiar, but I'm not yet see the "big guys" in that forum or they might never ever want to join on there.
Don't know if it will be a competitor to bitcointalk, but imo that will never happen as bitcointalk will remain the main forum for bitcoin discussions etc.

It was also said by the admin of Altcoinstalks that the forum is not a replacement but an escape for the repressive community, maybe you can see the new policy here: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=312821.msg1452562#msg1452562

It is possible that the forum's big contributors will but here and never teleport, but now we know enough that some users have started to enter the Altcoinstalks forum.

admin of that forum is very accomodating. anyone who wants to teleport, the admin can do it in less than an hour. if mixers are not welcome here anymore altcoinstalk will take them. although they may not haave a huge number of visitors a month, it will eventually increase when more users are going there.

kind of an active forum when there are tons of logged in users.  once this forum becomes popular too, they will screen advertisers as well.

You are right, altcoinstalk have been from way back, Infact, let me confess that I actually started with that forum, I was like the second or third person that signed up on that forum when they launched newly, the admin made me a global moderator back then, but due to lack of activity on the forum, I stopped logining in there, and 2020 when I returned back on that forum, they have achieved a lot and I discovered that I can no longer remember my username, nor the password or the email address I signed up with, I had to create a new account which Is the one I am currently using.

From my long experience on altcoinstalk, the admin is indeed a very good person, a fellow that is very accommodating just as you have said, and I perceive he's very humble too.

I honestly can not see altcointalk ever replacing this forum as long as this forum remains online, but what is certain is that, altcoinstalk may possibly become big too with the right users, engagements and promotions, the admin of that forum is always open to new ideas and upgrade, did you guys notice the general chatbox on the site? That's an amazing feature to be honest.

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Royse has also launched a mixero signature campaign on altcoinstalks and they will start the campaign from December 31st but the thread has been launched today.

You can see the thread here: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=312833.0

Our managers are also discussing or considering continuing the campaign on bitcoingarden and altcoinstalks, this is just waiting for the agreement of the owners and managers.
The wage rate in the new version of the Mixero campaign that Royce launched today on altcointalk is very low, and I do not think that anyone will be encouraged to join it. $1 per post, with an increase in the minimum number of posts per week (30 posts).
If Altcointalk is the best forum in the market in terms of activity and traffic after BitcoinTalk, then it cannot be an alternative to it as an advertising market on which advertising campaigns are able to achieve the best results. Perhaps some companies will be encouraged by the idea of moving the campaign to another forum, but this is only as an experiment and I do not think they will continue with this option for a long time.

Well, these forums like altcointalks and bitcoingarden are no way near the comparison with bitcointalk in terms of number of users being active on the forum and the traffic that bitcointalk has, these forums are no way near to it.

So it is obvious that the mixer's campaigns won't be willing to pay good rates if they are unable to get a good ROI. It will be an experiment to start a campaign there and they will only continue if they see that people are being directed to the mixers from this marketing.

However, I do feel that ban of mixers on this forum and moving the campaigns to that altcointalks or bitcoingarden forum is more beneficial for these forums as compared to the projects themselves. All of a sudden, these forums have started to gain traffic.  Smiley

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December 07, 2023, 07:32:47 PM
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Royse has also launched a mixero signature campaign on altcoinstalks and they will start the campaign from December 31st but the thread has been launched today.

You can see the thread here: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=312833.0

Our managers are also discussing or considering continuing the campaign on bitcoingarden and altcoinstalks, this is just waiting for the agreement of the owners and managers.
The wage rate in the new version of the Mixero campaign that Royce launched today on altcointalk is very low, and I do not think that anyone will be encouraged to join it. $1 per post, with an increase in the minimum number of posts per week (30 posts).
If Altcointalk is the best forum in the market in terms of activity and traffic after BitcoinTalk, then it cannot be an alternative to it as an advertising market on which advertising campaigns are able to achieve the best results. Perhaps some companies will be encouraged by the idea of moving the campaign to another forum, but this is only as an experiment and I do not think they will continue with this option for a long time.

Well, these forums like altcointalks and bitcoingarden are no way near the comparison with bitcointalk in terms of number of users being active on the forum and the traffic that bitcointalk has, these forums are no way near to it.

So it is obvious that the mixer's campaigns won't be willing to pay good rates if they are unable to get a good ROI. It will be an experiment to start a campaign there and they will only continue if they see that people are being directed to the mixers from this marketing.

However, I do feel that ban of mixers on this forum and moving the campaigns to that altcointalks or bitcoingarden forum is more beneficial for these forums as compared to the projects themselves. All of a sudden, these forums have started to gain traffic.  Smiley

Yeah, it is indeed beneficial to the forum right about now, but also check it out in the long term, the table will still turn around and the mixers will benefit from their the forum as well when those forums start gaining the traffic as well.

I personally believe that with the presence of mixers and other high paying service on such forum, admin of those forum will be more encouraged to work harder to see that their forums start gaining high traffic, so as to make sure that the services being promoted on the forum get a good return on their investment, which will in turn encourage them to advertise much longer on the forum, and as well, attract other services too.
This is not something that will happen over night though, it will sure take some time.

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December 07, 2023, 09:37:29 PM
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Royse has also launched a mixero signature campaign on altcoinstalks and they will start the campaign from December 31st but the thread has been launched today.

You can see the thread here: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=312833.0

Our managers are also discussing or considering continuing the campaign on bitcoingarden and altcoinstalks, this is just waiting for the agreement of the owners and managers.
The wage rate in the new version of the Mixero campaign that Royce launched today on altcointalk is very low, and I do not think that anyone will be encouraged to join it. $1 per post, with an increase in the minimum number of posts per week (30 posts).
If Altcointalk is the best forum in the market in terms of activity and traffic after BitcoinTalk, then it cannot be an alternative to it as an advertising market on which advertising campaigns are able to achieve the best results. Perhaps some companies will be encouraged by the idea of moving the campaign to another forum, but this is only as an experiment and I do not think they will continue with this option for a long time.

Well, these forums like altcointalks and bitcoingarden are no way near the comparison with bitcointalk in terms of number of users being active on the forum and the traffic that bitcointalk has, these forums are no way near to it.

So it is obvious that the mixer's campaigns won't be willing to pay good rates if they are unable to get a good ROI. It will be an experiment to start a campaign there and they will only continue if they see that people are being directed to the mixers from this marketing.

However, I do feel that ban of mixers on this forum and moving the campaigns to that altcointalks or bitcoingarden forum is more beneficial for these forums as compared to the projects themselves. All of a sudden, these forums have started to gain traffic.  Smiley

Not exactly. Because simply launching signature campaigns on these forums will not lead to the traffic they need to at least compete with bitcointalk, even if just a little. Traffic is nothing but members participating in signature campaigns on bitcointalk who want to continue participating in the group on another forum, and whose number in total I do not expect to exceed 100 members, given the number of campaigns that intend to move to another forum and taking into account members who do not have accounts with upgraded memberships on those forums.
Perhaps these forums will become more important to users in crypto communities after the number of posts increases and the quality improves, which means more traffic.
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December 08, 2023, 11:09:00 AM
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There are already 4 pages of applications for signature campaign there, so there's obviously interest despite the lower rate. Keep also in mind that on altcointalk there is a "teleport" option so when you create a new account, you can simply sort of transfer your bitcointalk rank so you don't have to start from scratch.

I'm not sure, but I think that I had a profile on that forum a long time ago, as well as on some other forums - but what I'm interested in is the "teleport" option, that is, how exactly does their admin verify that someone is really the one whose profile want to transfer - anyone can say they are Lucius and give my unique profile number?

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