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December 05, 2023, 01:07:13 PM
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is arbitrage still possible in crypto ? anyone has any luck with this method ?
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December 05, 2023, 01:15:27 PM
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Exchanges listed coins with different prices. Sometimes, you will see huge price difference between the same coin on different exchanges.

Exchanges also are supporting stable coins which you will use for the the trading pairs.

You can start to check some coins on different exchanges and make sure their difference can give you profit.

You will need high amount of money for arbitrage trading. But it is risky, just that small amount of money can not give huge profit.

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December 05, 2023, 02:54:19 PM
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It's still possible; it's just that the number of exchanges is still increasing or the competition is intensifying, so it will be a bit difficult to arbitrage, in my opinion, as seen in a scenario like that.

And we also know that AI is used to detect and exploit every arbitrage opportunity. So if we force it on cryptocurrency, it will be really difficult because the low margin is one of them, so it will not help. These are just some of the reasons why it is difficult.



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December 05, 2023, 02:59:37 PM
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is arbitrage still possible in crypto ? anyone has any luck with this method ?
It is still possible but with trading bots and bots for detecting differences in price for arbitrage trading, chance for you to do it manually is very slim. You will nearly can not be quick enough to find arbitrage trading opportunities and can not beat bots on it.

With centralized exchanges, you will have to depend on their withdrawal approval and processing as well as on chain confirmation time and time for another exchange to credit deposit to your account. Those factors can affect your arbitrage trading and again even on centralized exchanges, there are many bots do that tasks.

If you do it manually, you almost have to forget about arbitrage trading.

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December 05, 2023, 06:30:11 PM
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is arbitrage still possible in crypto ? anyone has any luck with this method ?
I don't think if there would be any experienced arbitrage trader here will reply because it is just so rare, but the answer to your first query is yes, we can do arbitrage trading in crypto and I came to know about AT first in crypto as I started my trading journey from crypto, instead of Forex, or stocks etc. I was aware of this term a long time ago even I came to know the best exchanges that have better offers like Korea, the rates there and here have big differences.

Leave it for now, because I was not interested in doing AT but recently I started to make accounts on other CEXs, and while doing that I observed the price of BTC was different on two exchanges Binance and KuCoin. I started to not the difference between the two in multi-app mode.

Well, the difference won't remain for a longer period and I don't think we can practically do Arbitrage trading in BTC pair especially because the sending and receiving of BTC from one exchange to another will cost us a hell of lot of money and in addition to it, the congestion on the network will delay transactions for a long time and we might lose the opportunity to make a trade. BTW I have no special expertise in AT.

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December 05, 2023, 08:29:09 PM
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It's possible, but if you plan to do it manually, then forget about it because you will be competing with trading bots that are so fast at sniffing price changes and making buy and sell orders. You will also need a huge amount of money across different exchange accounts for arbitrage trading.

Also beware that issues like wallet maintenance happen, leading to varying prices across exchanges since users can not withdraw or deposit the specific coin. The difference in price might look so big, making you to fall for the trap.

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December 05, 2023, 09:32:03 PM
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is arbitrage still possible in crypto ?
Yes.

anyone has any luck with this method ?
Not me.
But I still see people but very minimal that does this because the opportunities are hard to be seen. If you look around and find some opportunity then it's still possible but with all the high fees and slow transactions, do you think that you can do it? It's possible yes but I won't do it.


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is arbitrage still possible in crypto ? anyone has any luck with this method ?
I've tried it but I don't feel like I have much benefit from that method. Unless we really have quite large capital. Because sometimes the price difference between Cex is not that big. Or sometimes it returns to the same price quickly. But this method is still possible. But it must be an altcoin that has fast transaction speeds. Because if we do this on an altcoin that has a very slow network confirmation speed then we will be late when sending it to another exchange. But for now I don't use that method. Because it's too risky. Because sometimes we experience losses when prices decline and we actually lose in transaction fees.

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December 06, 2023, 08:11:24 AM
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Yes, but the process is so complicated (calculation of all service fees and estimated deposit/withdrawal times) that in the end you get disproportionate profits. On the other hand, high volatility is the reason why traders feel there is no need to do so.

I was aware of this term a long time ago even I came to know the best exchanges that have better offers like Korea, the rates there and here have big differences.
I've heard this term, yeah "Kimchi Premium".

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Yes, it is possible, but you must ask: Will it be profitable compared to the costs of managing the bot and running it on a fast server, in addition to withdrawal fees and trading costs? I do not think that the answer will be promising, or at least not with such profitability that would make you rely on it instead of trading.

I don't think if there would be any experienced arbitrage trader here will reply because it is just so rare, but the answer to your first query is yes, we can do arbitrage trading in crypto and I came to know about AT first in crypto as I started my trading journey from crypto, instead of Forex, or stocks etc. I was aware of this term a long time ago even I came to know the best exchanges that have better offers like Korea, the rates there and here have big differences.

I remember in 2017, the price difference was more than $2000, which represents about 50% of the price difference. With two purchase and sale transactions, you can easily achieve a profit of more than 30%.

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is arbitrage still possible in crypto ? anyone has any luck with this method ?
Yes especially if the tokens sometime got listed on cex and has a dex liquidity. Ive seen this happened before that its cheaper on dex and got a good price on cex. So many have bought on dex and deposit and sold to cex. But the only thing there is the fees and also complications such as deposit and KYC. If its worth to do then its good to do arbitrage trading.

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is arbitrage still possible in crypto ? anyone has any luck with this method ?
Yes, of course, arbitrage will never be in cryptocurrency as it has always been in other investment classes. There are a lot of things that could cause arbitrage of an asset which range from manipulations, technical issues, differences in demand and supply on dealers' platforms and many more. These can not suddenly be over in cryptocurrency, so you should expect to see arbitrage once in a while. I added "once in a while" because it's not what you should be looking for all the time, learn how to trade and invest your assets properly to make money. These are the best and right means of making money instead of looking for something like arbitrage that shouldn't be a real means of making money.

However, if you are lucky to see it, just go for it, but be sure that you engage it in the right and cautious ways. This advice is important since I am certain that brokers frown at it, therefore exchanges could frown at it as well if it's too deliberate and obvious. They will not tell you this because arbitrage trading in law is not an illegal practice, but they might sanction you to protect their business from what they believe is cheating.

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December 07, 2023, 04:09:31 AM
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When ETH fees were low sometimes you could get lucky and buy something on a dex and send to a cex and get some arb going.

However with fees this high it’s usually not worth it since most of your money will go to paying gas fees for the dex transactions. Keep in mind this is only low liquidity pairs. Something that has a large market cap you can forget about arbitraging, especially on a CEX. Would need a bot for that.

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When ETH fees were low sometimes you could get lucky and buy something on a dex and send to a cex and get some arb going.
Fees can be easily bypassed using WETH pairs and networks that have low fees such as BSC, so in arbitrage trading it does not pose a problem as much as these networks are available and the possibility of linking CEX and DEX with each other, but the upward trend in the Bitcoin price is what makes arbitrage trading unprofitable compared to other trading styles. Any time there is an expectation that the price will rise, arbitrage is not a profitable trading method.

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When ETH fees were low sometimes you could get lucky and buy something on a dex and send to a cex and get some arb going.

However with fees this high it’s usually not worth it since most of your money will go to paying gas fees for the dex transactions. Keep in mind this is only low liquidity pairs. Something that has a large market cap you can forget about arbitraging, especially on a CEX. Would need a bot for that.
Currently, it is quite impossible to do it manually, because it requires accuracy regarding how much the difference is between one exchange and another and the confirmation for each network will be different and prices will fluctuate. Using arbitrage bots is the best option, but those who use bots have transactions of thousands to hundreds of dollars, if only a few transactions are not worth the potential loss.
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It worked good when ether fee was low. That time me including my friends doing arbitrage. First bought it from an exchange with low price and then sold that altcoin where exchange offer good price. Actually in good exchange, price remain kind of stable with real value but low quality exchange or some exchanges don't have liquidity enough for that token and that's why people who using those exchange have to sold their altcoins with low price. Still have opportunity when a token listed on exchange. But nowadays i personally don't do so after increase of ether fee. Even now i don't need to do so actually cause trading goes well. And now situation is also changed. People start using bot for arbitrage and it's hard to beat the bot and sometime you will find opportunity to grab

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December 09, 2023, 06:55:06 AM
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is arbitrage still possible in crypto ? anyone has any luck with this method ?
I've tried it but I don't feel like I have much benefit from that method. Unless we really have quite large capital. Because sometimes the price difference between Cex is not that big. Or sometimes it returns to the same price quickly.
Maybe there are exchanges whose pricing is very far from the others or from the rest? Searching is only the key here but we must be very careful, as there are things that we may not like like their fees are high, or they aren't really that secure.

It is not worth the risk, but if we will just trade on a one safe exchange that we really like, a small earnings can still stack and turn into a huge one later on. Many exchanges are aware of arbitrage and I think it's prohibited for some reasons. This is why they do what they can to prevent the traders from doing it, including like what you said of minimizing the gap of the price between other exchanges.

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Good luck getting to make money if you're just an individual without the software and hardware that companies/institutions have for arbing. As an individual, your only chance in making money is to probably arb the smaller low-cap coins on bottom-of-the-barrel exchanges; though you might be screwed over by low liquidity.

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is arbitrage still possible in crypto ? anyone has any luck with this method ?

If a lot of luck is involved then I wouldn't call it a great trading strategy. Luck will always play a part in life, but I wouldn't recommend to start trading with the only hope of being lucky to become profitable. In the past I tried myself with arbitrage trading and only achieved mixed results. The price differences I noticed on a few exchanges was quite small and when trying to take advantage of them they were also short lived. It's good to keep an eye open for arbitrage opportunities, but I found that only relying on it is not going to work. It requires a lot of time to observe the markets and compare prices on various exchanges constantly. Also, there is a big competition for arbitrage trades, which is why most opportunities are going to be very quickly. Arbitrage trading is the closest we can come to a risk-free profit, because we buy and sell the same security at the same time.
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December 12, 2023, 07:51:51 AM
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is arbitrage still possible in crypto ? anyone has any luck with this method ?
It is possible but it is not easy at all, first of all forget about doing this manually, you will need a bot and you need it to be coded so it can run and execute your trades as fast as possible, you will also need the fastest server you can get as arbitrage opportunities can disappear in seconds and that can be the difference between making money or losing it, and if that was not enough you will need accounts on all exchanges and have capital there as well, so unless you can do all of that it should be better for you to forget about arbitrage.
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