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Well, most of the time, when someone invented something new most people think they don't need it, Internet, Blockchain, there are so many people skeptical about those, yet as the time goes by, we can't live without Internet, and now we shill blockchain. -snip-
Indeed, many people are too skeptical of new things, even they have not used it. In context, when we refer to a new technology like Blockchain, it looks strange and people don't understand Blockchain enough. Blockchain or some new technology in crypto is bad news for those who don't like freedom. Even the government will not be too supportive with decentralization. But over time all of that will be needed and used as new ideas to develop and build new projects. Now things that are not really needed finally become a starter that will give birth to many new projects.
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December 07, 2023, 06:19:35 PM |
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This also happens in my country, where many people always prioritize style over their basic daily needs, also they are not aware of their limited financial situation. Many young people are currently competing in style because they want to be seen by many people, maybe it's to appreciate themselves, but unfortunately there are some of them who borrow money just to buy luxurious goods for the purpose of being seen by others and maybe want to get praise from others, even though not everyone will judge it positively. There are even rich people who have a lot of money who only look sober without prioritizing style, but it is human nature where they have a prestige that makes them embarrassed maybe if they look sober. "Difficult economy, elite style" is indeed a pat on young people today who always prioritize style in their daily lives, not a problem for me but I am confused by those who are willing to make loans just to meet the current trendy style. If they force themselves to be stylish because of the prestige that young people currently have, it will only torment them, especially financially. So I don't think they have to be prestigious or ashamed of what they have, just enjoy it, don't care what other people say. It is the circle of friends that makes them like that, where they proudly show off their parents' gifts and wealth, while not having the ability to earn any money, they can only ask. But that doesn't mean I forbid someone who is financially incapable of being friends with someone who is rich. because even without my prohibiting it, this has formed by itself where the rich only hang out with the rich and the poor can only hang out with the poor. Social inequality is what makes this situation happen. And in fact, if you think about it, having high prestige is not a problem, because this can be a motivation and can encourage someone to work harder and increase their income so that they can get what they want. However, what happens to young people today is that they prioritize style, even though they don't have income. And in the end, to be able to fulfill his lifestyle, he pestered his parents to buy him what he wanted and told his parents to work harder, so that their child's wishes could be fulfilled.
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December 07, 2023, 07:05:03 PM |
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That’s how the world is structured, someone buys, and someone sells. The financial system is designed in such a way that people have to work and produce goods and services, and this is basically what economics is, and I also forgot about taxes, where would we be without them. I agree about garbage, in developed countries they are effectively fighting it, whereas in other countries they only talk about it and do almost nothing about it.
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December 07, 2023, 08:28:25 PM |
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Traditional economic principles dictate that when there is an oversupply, prices should fall; nevertheless, the current surplus has a practical challenge-finding room for these things. This issue extends beyond tangible items to encompass fancy automobiles and even gourmet meals, resulting in an unexpected abundance. The imminent likelihood of interest rate decreases adds another dimension to the complicated issue as we navigate this age of excess, perhaps worsening the task of managing and disposing of the surplus.
Apart from that, we also have to find out about the causes of the excess supply of each item that is currently needed by many people so that prices do not continue to decrease for each item that is experiencing an excess supply. Because this will make it difficult for traders to continue selling traditionally in the market, so we as a society need to find out about the causes of this so that not many traders have to go out of business because of excess supply. Because excess supply of many goods can also worsen economic growth in the country. The real biggest issue is that one item that could be so much cheaper and could be accessed by people could be not manufactured enough to jack up the prices in order to make more profit. That's a moral and ethical issue but not illegal neither. Let's take a drug for example, if a company produces 100 million of it each month, and sell it for 1 dollar, they make 100 million dollars a month, but if they produce just 10 million, and sell it for 50 bucks, they do make 500 million instead. This is how pharma companies work, they want to make sure that the yare not producing a lot of it, so that people would not buy it in bulk, sure there are simple drugs like parol that would be made like that, but I mean very important ones.
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That’s how the world is structured, someone buys, and someone sells. The financial system is designed in such a way that people have to work and produce goods and services, and this is basically what economics is, and I also forgot about taxes, where would we be without them. I agree about garbage, in developed countries they are effectively fighting it, whereas in other countries they only talk about it and do almost nothing about it.
In this life there are always things that someone needs and there are also people who make them to sell and this will continue in such a way and there are always taxes that must be paid by everyone so that the government system can run well, in terms of waste there are some countries that can manage it well so that it becomes a valuable item for sale, there are others that cannot process it so that it becomes a pile of useless trash and is destroyed.
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December 08, 2023, 03:40:49 AM |
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I understand what OP is saying, but I believe OP has not done research about poor people who need too many items that are no longer used, clothes or food. If you have these things, it would be great if you give them to the poor people around you, if you don't have any, you can find out about it. I'm pretty sure that there are quite a lot of people out there who don't have that. If you feel that you will never use them again, you can find someone else who is ready to use these items every day. Even though there are too many luxury items available, if you don't need them, then you can give other people the opportunity to experience the luxury items you have. If it's not in your area, then try looking in another area.
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December 08, 2023, 04:07:52 AM |
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This also happens in my country, where many people always prioritize style over their basic daily needs, also they are not aware of their limited financial situation. Many young people are currently competing in style because they want to be seen by many people, maybe it's to appreciate themselves, but unfortunately there are some of them who borrow money just to buy luxurious goods for the purpose of being seen by others and maybe want to get praise from others, even though not everyone will judge it positively. There are even rich people who have a lot of money who only look sober without prioritizing style, but it is human nature where they have a prestige that makes them embarrassed maybe if they look sober. "Difficult economy, elite style" is indeed a pat on young people today who always prioritize style in their daily lives, not a problem for me but I am confused by those who are willing to make loans just to meet the current trendy style. If they force themselves to be stylish because of the prestige that young people currently have, it will only torment them, especially financially. So I don't think they have to be prestigious or ashamed of what they have, just enjoy it, don't care what other people say. It is the circle of friends that makes them like that, where they proudly show off their parents' gifts and wealth, while not having the ability to earn any money, they can only ask. But that doesn't mean I forbid someone who is financially incapable of being friends with someone who is rich. because even without my prohibiting it, this has formed by itself where the rich only hang out with the rich and the poor can only hang out with the poor. Social inequality is what makes this situation happen. And in fact, if you think about it, having high prestige is not a problem, because this can be a motivation and can encourage someone to work harder and increase their income so that they can get what they want. However, what happens to young people today is that they prioritize style, even though they don't have income. And in the end, to be able to fulfill his lifestyle, he pestered his parents to buy him what he wanted and told his parents to work harder, so that their child's wishes could be fulfilled. There is nothing wrong if they ask their parents, but it would be better if they authorize it themselves if they themselves want something to be stylish in front of their friends, because I myself am embarrassed if they are stylish with the results of asking parents. like asking for a two-wheeled vehicle or gadged which is currently their main requirement so as not to be embarrassed when gathering with their circle of friends. You're right, the cycle of degrees of friendship is self-perpetuating, and as you say it's a given in the circle of friends. What you said is very true in my circle, where many children insist on asking their parents, to the point that some dare to yell at their parents to buy the things they want, even though they know that they are not a wealthy family who can point to something and immediately buy it. They don't realize how difficult it is to find money nowadays, and that many people take out loans to fulfill their basic daily needs, and this is inherent in the environment of the young people around me. They should realize that their financial situation is limited. So don't force your parents to fulfill the style that you want if it is clear that you are financially limited.
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December 08, 2023, 06:42:08 AM |
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That’s how the world is structured, someone buys, and someone sells. The financial system is designed in such a way that people have to work and produce goods and services, and this is basically what economics is, and I also forgot about taxes, where would we be without them. I agree about garbage, in developed countries they are effectively fighting it, whereas in other countries they only talk about it and do almost nothing about it.
In this life there are always things that someone needs and there are also people who make them to sell and this will continue in such a way and there are always taxes that must be paid by everyone so that the government system can run well, in terms of waste there are some countries that can manage it well so that it becomes a valuable item for sale, there are others that cannot process it so that it becomes a pile of useless trash and is destroyed. in developing countries to poor countries that have large populations and still have problems processing waste, of course it is a serious problem, even expensive items can become waste for people who don't need them but can be useful for those who can use them. Therefore, the mentality of society and the government must work together to be able to educate and turn waste into jewels
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December 08, 2023, 06:50:37 AM |
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I get the plight that you have OP, maybe the reason why we all have these so-called "useless" stuff in this world is probably because our species is an innovator and we are trying to create a perfect life and so we end up having to spend this time creating stuff that we believe is essential until another one builds the same thing but has a different name and have a minor difference in function. Another thing that I believe is making us think this way and how we're creating stuff we don't need is because our brain can't or is programmed in a way that we can't stop doing something or that we can never feel boredom so we have to continuously think and innovate or maybe it's just capitalism in full working order.
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This is a biased statement, I really don't believe there is this so called people having too much of what they don't need when in the first place are the very people putting in the work to get what they want and probably these items accumulated over the years and not in a blink of an eye! Besides things like closes, electronics etc are usually given out free of charge but the people receiving this end up selling this and the cycle goes on and on and who do you blame for losing interest to give out the extras ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) It's honestly not fair to judge others when they too have made an effort to give the extras to someone they thought needed the items the most but the enduser monetized this venture
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There is nothing wrong if they ask their parents, but it would be better if they authorize it themselves if they themselves want something to be stylish in front of their friends, because I myself am embarrassed if they are stylish with the results of asking parents. like asking for a two-wheeled vehicle or gadged which is currently their main requirement so as not to be embarrassed when gathering with their circle of friends. You're right, the cycle of degrees of friendship is self-perpetuating, and as you say it's a given in the circle of friends. There is nothing wrong with a child asking their parents for what they want. But a child must also see the conditions and abilities of his parents. If the parent is only a factory worker, yes, don't ask for something that he or she is unable to grant the request. Like asking for the latest motorcycle, where the price of the motorcycle is equivalent to 2-3 years of his parents' salary. And I know very well when a father cannot grant what his children want, their hearts are very sad. Because let alone to grant what their children want, to be able to fulfill their daily needs as well as for their children's school fees, has become a very difficult thing to fulfill completely. So I emphasize that as a child, we should not ask for something that is beyond our parents' ability. What you said is very true in my circle, where many children insist on asking their parents, to the point that some dare to yell at their parents to buy the things they want, even though they know that they are not a wealthy family who can point to something and immediately buy it. They don't realize how difficult it is to find money nowadays, and that many people take out loans to fulfill their basic daily needs, and this is inherent in the environment of the young people around me. They should realize that their financial situation is limited. So don't force your parents to fulfill the style that you want if it is clear that you are financially limited.
Don't call me "Sir" because I don't have children and a family yet. And I am also just like other young people who want to live in luxury and with high prestige. but I try to turn that as motivation so that I can work even harder, so that I can prove to people that I can also get what they get. and plus there is one saying that is enough to motivate me to move even further and fly even higher and that saying is "When you are born from a poor family, then make sure that your offspring will be born from a family that is capable"
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Sorry but there is life like this around me and truly they throw away alot food the fast food places do a lot waste. And now days when fed cut rates covid19 times we was bored and bought a lot things what we don't need so many
Indeed, life is like that and sometimes we are not selective in choosing. Always the priority is quantity, not quality. just like investing in crypto, you already know that BTC has the potential to add more to your collection of Altcoins. Don't call me "Sir" because I don't have children and a family yet. And I am also just like other young people who want to live in luxury and with high prestige. but I try to turn that as motivation so that I can work even harder, so that I can prove to people that I can also get what they get. and plus there is one saying that is enough to motivate me to move even further and fly even higher and that saying is "When you are born from a poor family, then make sure that your offspring will be born from a family that is capable"
That's absolutely right and if we understand it, we must have a main goal from now on, namely continuing to work and be strong so that our grandchildren and descendants will become the grandchildren of rich people. not only the wealth of knowledge and religion, even though we are not the descendants of rich people now.
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December 08, 2023, 10:15:38 AM |
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This is a biased statement, I really don't believe there is this so called people having too much of what they don't need when in the first place are the very people putting in the work to get what they want and probably these items accumulated over the years and not in a blink of an eye! Besides things like closes, electronics etc are usually given out free of charge but the people receiving this end up selling this and the cycle goes on and on and who do you blame for losing interest to give out the extras ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) It's honestly not fair to judge others when they too have made an effort to give the extras to someone they thought needed the items the most but the enduser monetized this venture Yup, everyone is working hard to sustain their family and entire life and the things they purchase is their needs and wants so it's absolutely important to them, In fact they use their own money just to buy the things that they really want to have and there's nothing wrong with that. Most of the time, even those in the lower/middle class family, they have enough fund for their leisure which is we all know that it is not considered as essentials in life, but for me, if a person has a capability to do everything regardless their financial status, then let them be and don't judge them.
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They produce more but we have allready too much just too much And If the fed will cut again rates our planet will be Even more full of the trash and we will be oversupupplied of anything and now the Western countries are full of goods and a lot Luxury brand items and clothing what nobody don't really need yet the prices are high but sooner or later Luxury goods and items prices will fall becouse world is allready full of those. If you have too many that doesn't mean others too have too many, we have those that have nothing to wear or can barely afford to buy new clothes. Do some googling and you'll see people suffering in third world countries. You can do some charity for them if you have too many. We have foundation that you can donate to and they'll send them to those in need of them. The world isn't full of things that people don't need, the problem is that people need them but there isn't adequate means to send those things to those in need of them for free. When I was younger my mum always take all our old clothes during the festive period and send them to donations centers where people in need of clothes can come get them. You can do the same and if there isn't any in your local area, you can set up one yourself and people will be happy to support the Idea. People are getting born more than people dieing so there'll always be need of more things on earth starting from clothes to food and other necessary things and wants. Speaking about the luxury items, they're not made for everyone but for those that can afford them and there isn't enough, because we have those that wish to wear or own those luxurious items but can't afford them. I think more should be created in a more affordable package and they'll get more users wanting them.
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Companies continually release new products, often in limited quantities, as a tactic that deliberately exploits our desire for exclusivity and a sense of belonging. However, it is important that we, as consumers, finally have the power to break this cycle.
The responsibility lies not only with companies but also with our own choices and priorities. By being aware of the difference between needs and wants, we can avoid getting caught up in a culture of instant gratification and impulse purchases. This new awareness empowers us to make conscious decisions that align with our values and financial goals.
Instead of following trends and blindly pursuing the latest items, we can choose to pursue a more minimalist lifestyle. This doesn't necessarily mean living in poverty, but rather being conscious of your consumption habits and prioritizing experiences over material possessions.
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December 08, 2023, 06:25:51 PM |
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The most luxurious things or i would say finer thangs are in less quantity and only those who are capable of buying them can afford them. The cars, the clothes, chains and houses are not pretty much everywhere. Most of these things are bought by music artist, footballers or sports men and women in general, high business owners and most of all men in the technological system. Perhaps where you from you see little things as luxurious things because you mentioned lambo. But in US lambos are cars that can be afforded by local business owners who are successful in their business. There are more expensive cars like Rose Royce, Pagani Hera and so many other brands in cars that s many person cannot afford and they are limited in supply.
Also, if you come to talk about cloth brands there are luxurious clothes brand that only the rich can afford and most of those clothes are customized for the. Many people were clothes tagged Gucci, Dior, Fendi and all that but sincerely they are not the real original wears. When you see the original one you will know and they are not plenty but few for those who can afford it.
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junder
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December 09, 2023, 08:53:34 AM |
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There is nothing wrong if they ask their parents, but it would be better if they authorize it themselves if they themselves want something to be stylish in front of their friends, because I myself am embarrassed if they are stylish with the results of asking parents. like asking for a two-wheeled vehicle or gadged which is currently their main requirement so as not to be embarrassed when gathering with their circle of friends. You're right, the cycle of degrees of friendship is self-perpetuating, and as you say it's a given in the circle of friends. There is nothing wrong with a child asking their parents for what they want. But a child must also see the conditions and abilities of his parents. If the parent is only a factory worker, yes, don't ask for something that he or she is unable to grant the request. Like asking for the latest motorcycle, where the price of the motorcycle is equivalent to 2-3 years of his parents' salary. And I know very well when a father cannot grant what his children want, their hearts are very sad. Because let alone to grant what their children want, to be able to fulfill their daily needs as well as for their children's school fees, has become a very difficult thing to fulfill completely. So I emphasize that as a child, we should not ask for something that is beyond our parents' ability. yes you are right, if they are children who have a good mind then they will not ask for high-value things like motorcycles and cell phones. because their parents' income is only enough to meet the basic needs of daily life, then they cannot ask for things that are difficult for their parents to buy. as children, of course, we must understand the conditions of our parents, even better we can help financially, by looking for side jobs that clearly must produce. although there are children who do not know themselves, by insisting on buying the latest motorcycle or cellphone, and have a high price value. and this is not natural, especially if they force their parents, because after all they should understand the limited family circumstances. What you said is very true in my circle, where many children insist on asking their parents, to the point that some dare to yell at their parents to buy the things they want, even though they know that they are not a wealthy family who can point to something and immediately buy it. They don't realize how difficult it is to find money nowadays, and that many people take out loans to fulfill their basic daily needs, and this is inherent in the environment of the young people around me. They should realize that their financial situation is limited. So don't force your parents to fulfill the style that you want if it is clear that you are financially limited.
Don't call me "Sir" because I don't have children and a family yet. And I am also just like other young people who want to live in luxury and with high prestige. but I try to turn that as motivation so that I can work even harder, so that I can prove to people that I can also get what they get. and plus there is one saying that is enough to motivate me to move even further and fly even higher and that saying is "When you are born from a poor family, then make sure that your offspring will be born from a family that is capable" hahaha sorry, I didn't mean it like that. don't take it to heart my friend. Well it's good that young people have thoughts like yours, if they really have the desire or willingness, they should also have a sense of desire to work, because to get something, especially to be stylish, of course, you have to have enough money and I think it's better that we ourselves make money for what we want. I myself apply the principle of "effort will not betray results", and this has been proven by myself, where I can buy the motorbike I want with the money from my own sweat without any parental intervention. and I myself am also proud of this little thing.
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topbitcoin
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December 09, 2023, 10:19:13 PM |
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That's absolutely right and if we understand it, we must have a main goal from now on, namely continuing to work and be strong so that our grandchildren and descendants will become the grandchildren of rich people. not only the wealth of knowledge and religion, even though we are not the descendants of rich people now. If we talk about knowledge, of course this is something that is very valuable for us to pass on to our children and grandchildren. Because if we only pass on wealth, it will not last because it will end. and if you only inherit wealth, but not knowledge. believe that the wealth you give to your children and grandchildren will be used up in a very short time. Because they don't know how to manage their finances well. And to answer this question, there is a saying that says, "When you give something to other people, make it a habit to never give them the fish, but give them their fishing poles. So that they also know how to get fish. Because if you only give them the fish, then when the fish is finished, he will come back to ask you for fish." The same thing we have to do with our children, so that they don't become spoiled, never give them money for nothing. But give them a job or start a business, so that they also get used to it and know how to earn money. But in quotation marks our child is quite mature... yes.
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panganib999
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December 09, 2023, 11:59:35 PM |
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World is full of goods and products specially brands clothing and Even the luxury cars. In the law of supply and demand no matter If rates goes lower things prices can fall. Now there is problems where to put all those cucci Versace or other high brands products. There is no space anymore for that and Even Luxury cars the world is full of those. By supply and demand you should get one lambo for 50Usd or maybe Even for Free. That's the secret but nobody don't talk about it world is over. Supplied there is too many goods but hard to storage them or destroy. And Even food the world is full of food even good food goes into waste. And If we look at all those eshops like ebay amazon we have situation when supply is way higher then demand. They produce more but we have allready too much just too much And If the fed will cut again rates our planet will be Even more full of the trash and we will be oversupupplied of anything and now the Western countries are full of goods and a lot Luxury brand items and clothing what nobody don't really need yet the prices are high but sooner or later Luxury goods and items prices will fall becouse world is allready full of those. Even myself ... And many people who i know ...all my basement IS full of clothes becouse i buy every Christmas time brand clthings ...and i have nowhere to put them. The clothes they get old and you don't want to wear them so you end up full House of just the old brand clothes and that's not just me but a lot people have Same problem we collect things more then we need it.
You should not include luxury items in these stuff. Their value is not based on how much is there of it in the market, nor with the amount of demand that people have over these products. Their value depends on how the world perceives them, which includes a lot of marketing and PR and less about the craftsmanship. The law of supply and demand does not account for luxury items, keep that in mind. And even if it does, it still would apply since at the end of the day, there's only a few of these in circulation, and every single fuckwad on the planet wishes they own at least one of these lambos, versace, gucci, or whatever the fuck expensive bs they have on the market nowadays, and since the law of supply and demand implies that lower supply pushes for larger demand and therefore higher price, you get these luxury items being this expensive. Read a goddamn economics book.
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Samlucky O
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December 10, 2023, 12:51:24 AM |
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I think life is all about choice, despite the world is full of junk according to you. I think it's not a must to have them. Every thing produce in the market is useful perhaps not to every one. When yo don't have money or when we are not rich we criticize things we can't afford. But when we are super rich we think of having them all. Despite the world is full of things we don't want according to you. We still need to embrace technology. Because this advancement in technology is the reason you were able to afford the type of phone you are using now.
Let take for example iPhone 4 was expensive when it came to the market and now upgraded to 14pro max, and not everyone would have been able to purchase it if the price was stucked uptill date. But due to the upgrade from time to time, the price of the previous becomes cheap and affordable. And many where able to afford it. If there were no innovation on steady basis how on Earth would you have affordable the type of things you have achieved today? I think civilization is making us to achieve things we can afford. So I think civilization and creativity is giving us room to benefit things we can't afford.
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