How Do You Convince Someone On Something That Will Not Work

[Die_empty]

We all know Martingale will not work in the long run, should I let him find out himself but that will incur a heavy loss in this case.  
Or should I discourage him by showing him videos, articles, and testimonials?

Everyone is peculiar and will have different experience in gambling. You friend have been winning using Martingale betting strategies and it will be difficult to convince him to change his style. My suggestion is that it you can convince him to change his gambling strategy that will be nice but I doubt if you would be able to achieve it because that is his best option for now. Every gambler is an adult to you will not force them to take any decision. This is because they might blame you if something go wrong.

Just tell him your view about his strategy and allow him to make his decision, after all he I matured and thr money is not yours. As much as he gambles with what he can afford to lose, that will be fine. There are people that will never accept a good advice until the learn from personal experience.

Because of this, I will not talk about online gambling to newbie I could put a guy in big trouble.

There is nothing wrong in introducing someone to gambling as long as the person is not underaged or a financial dependant. But when you introduce them ensure you give them the right understanding of how gambling works. The should be aware that they have to gamble responsibly and not to become addicts. You should teach them to have a gambling budget and only gamble what they can afford to lose. It's also important to enlighten them about diverse gambling strategies stating clearly the advantages and pitfalls of each strategy. Gambling requires a lifelong learning process, so as newbies keep betting, they will gain more experience.

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[rachael9385]

For me this is just a simple case to handle because I really think that even if you try your best to tell the new gambler about how he can lose in the bet, he will still not agree to you because he has already gotten some huge winning and it is beginning to drow his attentions to deposit money and gamble more.
However, for me, I will say you should let him try it or you tell him to stop but if he in any way refused then you should let him see or try for him self,,, if he win, then we have to thank God for that and if he still lose, we still thank God for that because at that time he must have learnt a lesson that he will live to tell other new gambles too.
Although, it is not a good thing to see a very good friend of yours lose in gamble just because he or she refused to take your advise.
As still, even if you try to discourage him, one day, on your absence he will still try to do same thing you told him not to do.

[Lanatsa]

While strolling in a park I bumped into an old friend with whom I had a conversation about online gambling we had a long conversation some three weeks ago, actually the original topic was about Bitcoin but for some reason I mentioned online gambling using Bitcoin, and that what opened about a lengthy conversation about online gambling using Cryptocurrency.

I didn't know that he signed up for one popular casino that I mentioned he started to play there and had huge success using one of the oldest but ineffective methods which is Martingale, I was just surprised that he had a successful run using a variation of martingale on Dice even mentioning of doubling or tripling his bankroll.
He is about to deposit a huge amount of money next week because the holiday is very near and he just wants to explore his so-called new-found method, which is not new to us.

We all know Martingale will not work in the long run, should I let him find out himself but that will incur a heavy loss in this case. 
Or should I discourage him by showing him videos, articles, and testimonials?

Because of this, I will not talk about online gambling to newbie I could put a guy in big trouble.

Sooner or later on the time that he bust up (hopefully not) but its inevitable specially on the time that he would really be able to experience those nasty consecutive losses on which it would really be
causing that total blown up on your capital and this is something that would really be able to make you realize that it is never been that possible on beating up the house. HOUSE DO ALWAYS WIN in the end
and this is something a very common line that we do know on gambling field specially on going against the house or casino on which it would be normal that these things would really
be that the reality on gambling world.

Just like on what others been people been saying that it would really be just that right that you should really be letting him be on experiencing those things
without the need on telling him on what he should gonna do. People would really be able to find out and realize on whats the real deal
on the time that they would be able to experience.

[Juse14]

We all know Martingale will not work in the long run, should I let him find out himself but that will incur a heavy loss in this case. 
Or should I discourage him by showing him videos, articles, and testimonials?

Let him find out for himself. Trying to discourage him or talk him out of his plan will strengthen his resolve to want to go further. The irony here is that if it should work out for him the first time, he will do it again and again until he faces a huge loss but if he losses the first time, he'll hang his head in shame and agree that you were right.

If you know the say he intends to execute his plan, be there with him and don't say a word. Maybe your presence will play a small role in discouraging him from overdoing it.

Yes you are right, when someone has experienced the joy of gambling, the beauty of playing gambling, and the huge profits in playing gambling. To be able to stop that person from their gambling activities, it is very difficult and when you keep trying to try to stop it, it will be a long debate. Because you and the gambler, both feel the most righteous about this behavior. And sometimes what we are looking for is not the truth, but a justification for our behavior and our arguments.

And back to the original problem, when someone has felt the pleasure of playing gambling, they tend to never realize the risk they face, and when they realize it, they tend to ignore it. Large losses and consecutive defeats, this is not enough to be able to awaken someone from the bad activities he has been doing so far.

[coolcoinz]

He was able to double or triple his bankroll because he was starting with very small bets, otherwise he wouldn't be able to make martingale work.

It sounds good when he brags about it, but in reality he's betting $1 and after a few hours he has $3 and he's happy because he made some money for free. It's funny when you realize how much he's putting on the line to earn a few bucks. Just to earn $1 he needs $2k to feel relatively safe so he can get 10x loss and that's not uncommon so sooner or later he'll lose. I remember trying to martingale years ago and I got 13 L in a row and got liquidated, but that was with a starting bet of a few sats.

[CryptSafe]

I understand your plight in trying to save your friend from making a terrible mistake but I think it would be difficult to do so because luck shined in his favor upon his beginning of gambling path. His wins would never allow him forgo the exact strategy as you have mentioned because that was the first mega victory experience he had got through that strategy so telling him to stop is like you taking away food from his mouth and doing that alone would make him feel you do not like the fact that he won through that strategy.

The only thing I think you can advise him to do is to reduce the rate at which he gambles. Also letting him know the consequences of being addicted to gambling and repercussions he may face in the wake up of such. Do well to enlighten him otherwise he would blame you tommorow if his gambling lifestyle becomes a topic of discussion.

[Mahanton]

I understand your plight in trying to save your friend from making a terrible mistake but I think it would be difficult to do so because luck shined in his favor upon his beginning of gambling path. His wins would never allow him forgo the exact strategy as you have mentioned because that was the first mega victory experience he had got through that strategy so telling him to stop is like you taking away food from his mouth and doing that alone would make him feel you do not like the fact that he won through that strategy.

The only thing I think you can advise him to do is to reduce the rate at which he gambles. Also letting him know the consequences of being addicted to gambling and repercussions he may face in the wake up of such. Do well to enlighten him otherwise he would blame you tommorow if his gambling lifestyle becomes a topic of discussion.

I dont really like on getting blamed whenever he had missed out on making some wins and its true that not everyone would really be sharing up with the same fate with gambling on which we know that there are really
people who are really that lucky when it comes to gambling instead on making use of those casual strategy or doesnt make use of one because luck would be always a great factor for you to make yourself that profitable with gambling. So better clear up his way and just let him on what he would really be planning to do .This is really just that for the sake of friendship, even if you are really that in concern for those potential losses
but since he's really that dedicative and optimistic on making more then just let him be and continue for it to play. Giving some advises might really be ending up on some conflicts and debates.
Better not to make yourself that stressed out on how to make them convinced on stopping gambling and just let those results would do the work because losing is inevitable with
martingale specially when your luck times out.

[Miles2006]

I would love to say you finish what you've started but it's of no use and I don't think the person will change just yet when he thinks he knows the strategy, I believe the person is not a kid so he also know the consequences attach to gambling, even if he has never played bet before he knows the system, sometimes he wants to play but he just what someone to lead him, some people will never involve in gambling even if they have heard it from their friends they still don't give a damn while some would love to gamble and any little speech talking about gamble they will just get involved
You trying to help your friend sounds good but he will not take your advice so he should learn for himself maybe when he experience how gambling works he might change under probability, depend on the kind of person if he's willing to change or not, lessons will be learnt.

[Casdinyard]

The thing is, Martingale strat does work, but for it to work, you have to have enough money/bankroll to cover your ass up. If you don't, then you're just wasting money.

I think one of the reasons why people don't think the Martingale Strategy doesn't work is because we have the tendency to play more even when we already got what we wanted, which in most cases mean we won our keep, probably earned just as much money as you would need to win back your losses and a few more, and yet some people still find the reason to play despite the fact. Which I say, is stupid first and foremost, and certainly shouldn't be the mentally you possess when you're using the Martingale strategy. because with martingale, you have to stop soon as you get that win, no matter what.

[Westinhome]

While strolling in a park I bumped into an old friend with whom I had a conversation about online gambling we had a long conversation some three weeks ago, actually the original topic was about Bitcoin but for some reason I mentioned online gambling using Bitcoin, and that what opened about a lengthy conversation about online gambling using Cryptocurrency.

I didn't know that he signed up for one popular casino that I mentioned he started to play there and had huge success using one of the oldest but ineffective methods which is Martingale, I was just surprised that he had a successful run using a variation of martingale on Dice even mentioning of doubling or tripling his bankroll.
He is about to deposit a huge amount of money next week because the holiday is very near and he just wants to explore his so-called new-found method, which is not new to us.

We all know Martingale will not work in the long run, should I let him find out himself but that will incur a heavy loss in this case. 
Or should I discourage him by showing him videos, articles, and testimonials?

Because of this, I will not talk about online gambling to newbie I could put a guy in big trouble.

The online gambling based on the bitcoin will be the length topic and it had huge things to discuss.After the growth of cryptocurrency,it also had their own growth to the gambling site.Now the bitcoin market had their own demand due to the bull market now,So the same will be reflected in the bitcoin based gambling sites.The gambling site based on cryptocurrency also involves of money laundering,only few gambling sites which I mean.So the gamblers should accept the gambling site which ask them to do kyc for the transaction.So most probably the gambling sites based on the kyc may be the trusted one.

[livingfree]

Just give him a warning and that will do and you did your job as a friend for giving him the reminder and warning that he shouldn't go that much because martingale's known for that effect and result.

Regardless of the result and if he's going to listen to you or not, you're done there and you did your part for telling what you know about the potential result of it.

So, whether he ends well then that's good but if he ends badly, you are at no fault with that and you shouldn't feel any regret because it's not you that moved and gambled the money but him.

[dothebeats]

If I were you, I would not stop him outright but rather just give him a fair warning that again, this is gambling with no certainty of success. There are a lot of factors at play, most of which aren't in his control nor favor. Let him realize that there are no guarantees of him making his money back ever again, without stressing the fact that you're trying to stop him. It's his money anyway, so he can do what he wants with it, but as a friend, we have to give advices sometimes that hopefully sways them the other way.

Either way, you will not be accountable for whatever happens to his money. You just had a conversation about gambling, and he himself pursued the idea and made it a reality, and doubled down on that, even.

[letteredhub]

We all know Martingale will not work in the long run, should I let him find out himself but that will incur a heavy loss in this case. 
Or should I discourage him by showing him videos, articles, and testimonials?

Because of this, I will not talk about online gambling to newbie I could put a guy in big trouble.

The did has been done already no time for the regrets about telling him or not telling, as a good friend you have giving him the advise he needs to get as a grown he has to use his own sense to know when to stop should he start having a bad gamble results. Martingale gambling style isn't a method I will wanna recommend to any gambler the hopes that it raises in an individual is such that you keep believing you will recover by just having a single win which then makes you to comfortably doubling you bets on each one you have lost. I think you should allow him do his thing, he will learn faster through a personal experience and not videos or articles can save him at this junction.

[danherbias07]

While strolling in a park I bumped into an old friend with whom I had a conversation about online gambling we had a long conversation some three weeks ago, actually the original topic was about Bitcoin but for some reason I mentioned online gambling using Bitcoin, and that what opened about a lengthy conversation about online gambling using Cryptocurrency.

I didn't know that he signed up for one popular casino that I mentioned he started to play there and had huge success using one of the oldest but ineffective methods which is Martingale, I was just surprised that he had a successful run using a variation of martingale on Dice even mentioning of doubling or tripling his bankroll.
He is about to deposit a huge amount of money next week because the holiday is very near and he just wants to explore his so-called new-found method, which is not new to us.

We all know Martingale will not work in the long run, should I let him find out himself but that will incur a heavy loss in this case. 
Or should I discourage him by showing him videos, articles, and testimonials?

Because of this, I will not talk about online gambling to newbie I could put a guy in big trouble.

Warn him. I think that's the best you could do.
When your friend entered the world of gambling, I hope he knew the risk that he was taking by doing so. Because there are individuals who heard about one popular casino, and signed up but had no idea what they were doing.
Then the one thing that mostly happens after the sign-up is the trap. He is now living it. It's not beginner's luck but these are baits to make people play more. He will definitely win while he is a non-VIP, I could tell because I've been there, withdrawn a lot of times from my winnings, but now that I am a VIP, I cannot seem to find that same luck that I had before, whatever the strategy I make especially with the casino games and the originals.
"Martingale is for people with deep pockets." That's what I would tell to my friend who is on his way to using that kind of strategy.

[Oilacris]

While strolling in a park I bumped into an old friend with whom I had a conversation about online gambling we had a long conversation some three weeks ago, actually the original topic was about Bitcoin but for some reason I mentioned online gambling using Bitcoin, and that what opened about a lengthy conversation about online gambling using Cryptocurrency.

I didn't know that he signed up for one popular casino that I mentioned he started to play there and had huge success using one of the oldest but ineffective methods which is Martingale, I was just surprised that he had a successful run using a variation of martingale on Dice even mentioning of doubling or tripling his bankroll.
He is about to deposit a huge amount of money next week because the holiday is very near and he just wants to explore his so-called new-found method, which is not new to us.

We all know Martingale will not work in the long run, should I let him find out himself but that will incur a heavy loss in this case. 
Or should I discourage him by showing him videos, articles, and testimonials?

Because of this, I will not talk about online gambling to newbie I could put a guy in big trouble.

Warn him. I think that's the best you could do.
When your friend entered the world of gambling, I hope he knew the risk that he was taking by doing so. Because there are individuals who heard about one popular casino, and signed up but had no idea what they were doing.
Then the one thing that mostly happens after the sign-up is the trap. He is now living it. It's not beginner's luck but these are baits to make people play more. He will definitely win while he is a non-VIP, I could tell because I've been there, withdrawn a lot of times from my winnings, but now that I am a VIP, I cannot seem to find that same luck that I had before, whatever the strategy I make especially with the casino games and the originals.
"Martingale is for people with deep pockets." That's what I would tell to my friend who is on his way to using that kind of strategy.

Yes, its not really that bad to give out some warning specially if he's your bestfriend or close one, as an experienced gambler then you do already know on what are the things that could possibly happen specially it is really just that common sense that we cant really be that able to have those winning permanently specially on gambling. Yes, you might be able to experience those wins on using martingale but it is really just that temporal and something doesnt really last long.If he wont listen then its up to him but at least you have told him something on which he cant blame you
out and would really be feeling sorry on the time that he would be experiencing those problems specially with gambling losses on which it is really that common.

[Latviand]

You said that your friend has been successful with his run with that Martingale strategy which means that even if you try to convince him, you'll probably going to fail because he's got a bias that it's effective to him and that he might argue that he might be an exception to the rule, have you seen it for yourself OP? That your friend is winning a lot of money because if not then there's the possibility that he's lying because if I win something big like tripling my bankroll, I would probably screenshot that to capture the moment right? But that lying part is just a possibility, I don't think that it's your duty to convince that friend to stop them from doing something that's worked for them anyways, I say that let him find out the hard way.

[qwertyup23]

We all know Martingale will not work in the long run, should I let him find out himself but that will incur a heavy loss in this case. 
Or should I discourage him by showing him videos, articles, and testimonials?

Because of this, I will not talk about online gambling to newbie I could put a guy in big trouble.

First of all, discuss him about his gambling habits. Ask if he is a frequent gambler or if he gambles purely for entertainment as the answer will depend on the method you will be using. Second, after knowing such information, you can at least recommend him another method of gambling which is less-risky compared to the Martingale strategy. Lastly, if he still wants to use this strategy, then let him be. Convincing someone into changing something that they have been used into doing so will be futile as they are already decided with their strategy.

Though this may be the case, the determining factor here is his goal on why he gambles- does he gamble for profit; or for entertainment?

If he gambles for profit, then I would definitely try my best to suggest to him other methods in order to at least guide him in the process. Whereas if he gambles for entertainment, then let him play whatever strategy he desires.

[lionheart78]

We all know Martingale will not work in the long run, should I let him find out himself but that will incur a heavy loss in this case. 
Or should I discourage him by showing him videos, articles, and testimonials?

There is no need to discourage him, just remind him that not everyday is a sunny day.  He might find his luck on his first gameplay but luck may not be of his the next time he play.  I believe he is old enough to decide things and weigh the situation and adjust his gameplay.  Discouraging him may bring your conversation to an argument so much better to have a light approach by simply reminding the person.  If he don't head your reminders then it is all his fault, and he can't blame you because you already told him of the possibilities.

Because of this, I will not talk about online gambling to newbie I could put a guy in big trouble.

There is nothing wrong talking about online gambling to newbies, what is wrong is hyping them to engage in such activities.

[Taskford]

While strolling in a park I bumped into an old friend with whom I had a conversation about online gambling we had a long conversation some three weeks ago, actually the original topic was about Bitcoin but for some reason I mentioned online gambling using Bitcoin, and that what opened about a lengthy conversation about online gambling using Cryptocurrency.

I didn't know that he signed up for one popular casino that I mentioned he started to play there and had huge success using one of the oldest but ineffective methods which is Martingale, I was just surprised that he had a successful run using a variation of martingale on Dice even mentioning of doubling or tripling his bankroll.
He is about to deposit a huge amount of money next week because the holiday is very near and he just wants to explore his so-called new-found method, which is not new to us.

We all know Martingale will not work in the long run, should I let him find out himself but that will incur a heavy loss in this case. 
Or should I discourage him by showing him videos, articles, and testimonials?

Because of this, I will not talk about online gambling to newbie I could put a guy in big trouble.

Don't try to stop him on what he do since if he is a close minded individual for sure he will not appreciate your advice but instead he feel bad about it and think about you are stopping him to earn a lot of money or worse he will just think about you are just jealous because he know something while you don't know anything.

So try to stay at current rate and just let him what he want to do then once he lost then try to give your words about the mistakes he do since for sure by that time he would provably listen since experience is best teacher and he would provably consider that huge lose and take your words seriously.

[Assface16678]

While strolling in a park I bumped into an old friend with whom I had a conversation about online gambling we had a long conversation some three weeks ago, actually the original topic was about Bitcoin but for some reason I mentioned online gambling using Bitcoin, and that what opened about a lengthy conversation about online gambling using Cryptocurrency.

I didn't know that he signed up for one popular casino that I mentioned he started to play there and had huge success using one of the oldest but ineffective methods which is Martingale, I was just surprised that he had a successful run using a variation of martingale on Dice even mentioning of doubling or tripling his bankroll.
He is about to deposit a huge amount of money next week because the holiday is very near and he just wants to explore his so-called new-found method, which is not new to us.

We all know Martingale will not work in the long run, should I let him find out himself but that will incur a heavy loss in this case. 
Or should I discourage him by showing him videos, articles, and testimonials?

Because of this, I will not talk about online gambling to newbie I could put a guy in big trouble.

Don't try to stop him on what he do since if he is a close minded individual for sure he will not appreciate your advice but instead he feel bad about it and think about you are stopping him to earn a lot of money or worse he will just think about you are just jealous because he know something while you don't know anything.

So try to stay at current rate and just let him what he want to do then once he lost then try to give your words about the mistakes he do since for sure by that time he would provably listen since experience is best teacher and he would provably consider that huge lose and take your words seriously.

Exactly, because a gamblers that is in the momentum of winning cannot be stopped, imagine saying it directly to him and he is in the momentum of winning, I don't think he will be happy with it, because as long as it benefits him he will not stop that so called "Martingale" method he is using, and as long as he is winning I don't think think that you should stop him, let him learn his own lesson, if you are really concern then let him realize the cause of what is doing, your role only is to give advise if the method he is using fails and cost him too much, and I don't think he will listen to you right away, I'm sure he will keep on playing in the same way until he don't realise that he lose all he has. So you are just there to guide and advise, but you never have the responsibility to stop him; it's his only life. Let him know the bitter end if it comes.