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December 06, 2023, 06:19:28 PM
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I suggest a plan to cooperation in trading crypto

•   How does it work?
   Briefly, it is a financial participation in trading in crypto-currency market. You involve your assets and we involve our experiences and time. So, the benefits are split 50/50.
   Let’s describe with an example. Suppose you want to apply for $10,000 and after a period, we will grow it to $13,000. So, the profit equals $3000, which 50% of it ($1500) belongs to you.

•   How can I trust you to give you my money?
   It doesn’t need to give us any money. We will trade with your money into your account. You should create an account in an exchange (Binance or OKex are recommended), then give us the account’s password in order to login and trade. Be aware, when you give someone the password, he can just login and do trade; not any withdrawals are possible. To withdraw, there are more security options like 2-FA and e-mail verification. So, you can only withdraw.

•   What about the profit ratio and risk?
   All of the financial markets, like stocks, forex, crypto, … are risky activities. You must note that when you want more income, you need to accept the risk. However, we try to manage the risk to achieve a positive performance. Our predicted ratio is about 10~15 percent per month.

•   How long does the plan take? Is it long-term or short?
   Actually, we are day traders. The period of each trade is usually 6~10 hours. So, the plan is short-term. But to achieve appropriate profit, we suggest at least a 6-month period. Note that there is no limitation to cancel the plan.

•   How can I test your performance?
   You can test the plan with a small amount of money (at least $1000) for 2 weeks. After that, you can add main assets.

•   Is there a minimum amount to apply the plan?
   Yes, the minimum amount to apply is $5000.

•   Do you use the robots for trading?
   No. In all accounts, human traders do trade. We don’t use robot trading neither copy trading.
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December 06, 2023, 06:54:33 PM
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?   It doesn’t need to give us any money. We will trade with your money into your account. You should create an account in an exchange (Binance or OKex are recommended), then give us the account’s password in order to login and trade. Be aware, when you give someone the password, he can just login and do trade; not any withdrawals are possible. To withdraw, there are more security options like 2-FA and e-mail verification. So, you can only withdraw.

This is scam. In addition to the fact that you do not have to give a stranger the password, you are allowing them to use your account in which you have completed the KYC procedures. Any fraudulent behavior on this account will be linked to your personal card, and the matter may get worse than that, as it may be used for money laundering operations.
If they ask you for an API without withdrawal permissions, do not trust them. If they are serious, they will provide free trading videos while you follow the steps.
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December 06, 2023, 08:20:24 PM
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?   It doesn’t need to give us any money. We will trade with your money into your account. You should create an account in an exchange (Binance or OKex are recommended), then give us the account’s password in order to login and trade. Be aware, when you give someone the password, he can just login and do trade; not any withdrawals are possible. To withdraw, there are more security options like 2-FA and e-mail verification. So, you can only withdraw.

This is scam. In addition to the fact that you do not have to give a stranger the password, you are allowing them to use your account in which you have completed the KYC procedures. Any fraudulent behavior on this account will be linked to your personal card, and the matter may get worse than that, as it may be used for money laundering operations.
If they ask you for an API without withdrawal permissions, do not trust them. If they are serious, they will provide free trading videos while you follow the steps.

I agree that at first glance you may think this is a scam. But the truth of every word can be checked. The investor can see the status of his account at any time. As you know, tools like Google Authenticator will be needed to withdraw crypto. If someone has a serious intention to cooperate, he can test the issue for 1 week with a small amount and then proceed to enter the main capital.
However, it is unethical to pretend that something that can be investigated and tested is a scam without due diligence.
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December 06, 2023, 09:02:49 PM
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Nice try lol
I know what you are trying to do. You probably want to use the Victim's account to offload your bags of shitcoins, yes you may not be able to withdraw the funds, but you can still trade off the money for your shitcoin orders. I have seen this happen when API keys leaked on 3 commas.

Why don't you use your own money to trade if you are so skillful and experienced? Why aren't you a rich trader by now?

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December 06, 2023, 09:32:32 PM
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Nice try lol
I know what you are trying to do. You probably want to use the Victim's account to offload your bags of shitcoins, yes you may not be able to withdraw the funds, but you can still trade off the money for your shitcoin orders. I have seen this happen when API keys leaked on 3 commas.

Why don't you use your own money to trade if you are so skillful and experienced? Why aren't you a rich trader by now?

Definitely not. Pumping shitcoins requires a large amount of money at a given time, while trading is a continuous process. Anyway, I said the investor can test with little money. Actually, I am still trading with my own money, but this does not prevent me from using the joint investment option.
I repeat again that something that can be tested and checked should not be judged irrationally.
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December 06, 2023, 10:28:45 PM
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You are too new to suggest this kind of coopereation.
•   Is there a minimum amount to apply the plan?
   Yes, the minimum amount to apply is $5000.
$5000 for minimum plan. hmmmm! this is extortion and not cooperation. The goal of cooperation is to maximize benefits for both parties, but for this you want all the benefit first with the other person being sure of any benefit.

Cooperation is not always to everyone's good. As traders, care has to be taken before trusting any other trader who suggest cooperation, there can be other motives they have.
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December 06, 2023, 11:29:57 PM
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This is scam at its finest. I hope people will not 'cooperate' with you as there are only two outcomes to this: people getting scammed, or people getting scammed while receiving a few payouts at best. I've been a part of these pump and dump groups before and this is not pretty. There is always someone who will have to pay the price in order to move forward the group's interest, and most of the time, it's the majority of the group who suffers while the coordinators and organizers get the profits alone.
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December 07, 2023, 12:50:19 AM
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•   How can I trust you to give you my money?
   It doesn’t need to give us any money. We will trade with your money into your account. You should create an account in an exchange (Binance or OKex are recommended), then give us the account’s password in order to login and trade. Be aware, when you give someone the password, he can just login and do trade; not any withdrawals are possible. To withdraw, there are more security options like 2-FA and e-mail verification. So, you can only withdraw.

Obviously, when you encounter this kind of person and the condition is like this, you should be aware of that, because the person you are talking to here is a scammer. Why would you create an account on an exchange if you told him the email and password you created?

Well, it's just common sense; why would they make an account when they can create one? The explanation seems simple: you opened a bank account; are you going to give your sensitive and important bank details to someone you don't know? Your money is inside your bank account; it's no different from opening your own account on well-known exchanges here in the crypto business.



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December 07, 2023, 03:09:36 AM
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Nice try lol
I know what you are trying to do. You probably want to use the Victim's account to offload your bags of shitcoins, yes you may not be able to withdraw the funds, but you can still trade off the money for your shitcoin orders. I have seen this happen when API keys leaked on 3 commas.

Why don't you use your own money to trade if you are so skillful and experienced? Why aren't you a rich trader by now?

Definitely not. Pumping shitcoins requires a large amount of money at a given time, while trading is a continuous process. Anyway, I said the investor can test with little money. Actually, I am still trading with my own money, but this does not prevent me from using the joint investment option.
I repeat again that something that can be tested and checked should not be judged irrationally.
Then keep using your money to trade and leave other people alone, if you are as good as you claim to be then you do not need the money of anyone else, as you could sell some of your assets to fund your trading account, ask for a loan to a bank or simply use leverage and increase your profits this way.

What you are saying sounds like excuses because that is precisely what they are, and no one that values their privacy and their wealth will risk it over something like this.
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December 07, 2023, 09:00:40 AM
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I agree that at first glance you may think this is a scam. But the truth of every word can be checked. The investor can see the status of his account at any time. As you know, tools like Google Authenticator will be needed to withdraw crypto. If someone has a serious intention to cooperate, he can test the issue for 1 week with a small amount and then proceed to enter the main capital.
I am not talking about withdrawal, but what guarantees me that you will not use the account to launder money, as you can misuse the withdrawal restrictions, or in scam, such as going to Binance P2P and defrauding others as you are requesting full access to the account.
What you say is contrary to the terms of use for most services. In short, you are looking for someone who bypasses KYC restrictions for you and bear all the problems.
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December 07, 2023, 09:39:06 AM
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I thought that you're giving some advise and tips to the traders here and to the aspiring ones as well. But after reading these questions and answers that you've got. Are you a profitable trader? if yes, there's no need for you to ask people to trade for them. That's a bad offer that everyone should avoid because if someone who's lack knowledge that these things shouldn't be patronized, they're going to lose their money from these likely scams. $5k for cooperation as minimum? LOL. That's easy money for you, do yourself a favor, trade today and make that much.

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You are too new to suggest this kind of coopereation.
•   Is there a minimum amount to apply the plan?
   Yes, the minimum amount to apply is $5000.
$5000 for minimum plan. hmmmm! this is extortion and not cooperation. The goal of cooperation is to maximize benefits for both parties, but for this you want all the benefit first with the other person being sure of any benefit.

Cooperation is not always to everyone's good. As traders, care has to be taken before trusting any other trader who suggest cooperation, there can be other motives they have.

As I said before, it is possible to do it with small money for testing. But to cooperate for a period of 3-6 months, working with amounts less than $5000 is not justified for me at all. I must add that I prefer to work with 4 people with a capital of $5000 instead of with 20 people with a capital of $1000. The reason is that the trades are not done by robots but by humans. Therefore, it is not possible to work with a large number of accounts.

Our strategy is to make small profits with a large number of trades. Small profits reduce the risk and the high number of trades increases the cumulative profit. Most traders are looking to get big profits with a few trades, if they increase the risk by doing so.
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December 07, 2023, 10:09:32 AM
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This is scam at its finest. I hope people will not 'cooperate' with you as there are only two outcomes to this: people getting scammed, or people getting scammed while receiving a few payouts at best. I've been a part of these pump and dump groups before and this is not pretty. There is always someone who will have to pay the price in order to move forward the group's interest, and most of the time, it's the majority of the group who suffers while the coordinators and organizers get the profits alone.

I understand that the number of scams has increased. But in my proposed plan, there is enough flexibility for the investor. I know that no cooperation can proceed without trust, but I ask you: if my proposed plan is real, what do you think should be done to achieve trust? Isn't testing with small amounts one of these ways? Maybe you have a better idea.

Instead of considering the whole of a proposal as bad, isn't it better to test it and then judge it fairly?
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•   How can I trust you to give you my money?
   It doesn’t need to give us any money. We will trade with your money into your account. You should create an account in an exchange (Binance or OKex are recommended), then give us the account’s password in order to login and trade. Be aware, when you give someone the password, he can just login and do trade; not any withdrawals are possible. To withdraw, there are more security options like 2-FA and e-mail verification. So, you can only withdraw.

Obviously, when you encounter this kind of person and the condition is like this, you should be aware of that, because the person you are talking to here is a scammer. Why would you create an account on an exchange if you told him the email and password you created?

Well, it's just common sense; why would they make an account when they can create one? The explanation seems simple: you opened a bank account; are you going to give your sensitive and important bank details to someone you don't know? Your money is inside your bank account; it's no different from opening your own account on well-known exchanges here in the crypto business.

I have an idea for someone who is serious about cooperation. I can provide him an account of mine that contains funds. He can only trade in that environment. If he can withdraw the capital, that capital will be for him.
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December 07, 2023, 10:34:24 AM
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Nice try lol
I know what you are trying to do. You probably want to use the Victim's account to offload your bags of shitcoins, yes you may not be able to withdraw the funds, but you can still trade off the money for your shitcoin orders. I have seen this happen when API keys leaked on 3 commas.

Why don't you use your own money to trade if you are so skillful and experienced? Why aren't you a rich trader by now?

Definitely not. Pumping shitcoins requires a large amount of money at a given time, while trading is a continuous process. Anyway, I said the investor can test with little money. Actually, I am still trading with my own money, but this does not prevent me from using the joint investment option.
I repeat again that something that can be tested and checked should not be judged irrationally.
Then keep using your money to trade and leave other people alone, if you are as good as you claim to be then you do not need to money of anyone else, as you could sell some of your assets to fund your trading account, ask for a loan to a bank or simply use leverage and increase your profits this way.

What you are saying sounds like excuses because that is precisely what they are, and no one that values their privacy and their wealth will risk it over something like this.

This offer is not for someone who has little capital. In general, in any type of investment, you should pay attention to the fact that you do not have the right to sell  things that are necessary for your life or borrow. In fact, investing is allocating part of the surplus capital to get more profit, and you must have risk management for that.
Regarding why there is a need for cooperation, I draw your attention to the fact that the purpose of human creation is social life. A person may have specialized ability but less capital and vice versa. There is no obstacle to mutual cooperation for common interests. For example, ETFs work with this view.
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December 07, 2023, 11:13:04 AM
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I agree that at first glance you may think this is a scam. But the truth of every word can be checked. The investor can see the status of his account at any time. As you know, tools like Google Authenticator will be needed to withdraw crypto. If someone has a serious intention to cooperate, he can test the issue for 1 week with a small amount and then proceed to enter the main capital.
I am not talking about withdrawal, but what guarantees me that you will not use the account to launder money, as you can misuse the withdrawal restrictions, or in scam, such as going to Binance P2P and defrauding others as you are requesting full access to the account.
What you say is contrary to the terms of use for most services. In short, you are looking for someone who bypasses KYC restrictions for you and bear all the problems.

This is the first post in this thread that analyzes the issue in a logical way. Let's assume that I intend to launder money. Usually, such a person will not have the ability to trade and generate profit. While you will find out after 7 or 10 days. In addition, to perform money laundering, I can use exchanges such as MEXC or Coinex that do not require KYC and create a large number of accounts.
Ironically, my suggestion is not Binance exchange, but MEXC. Because this exchange has a maker fee of 0 and a ticker of 0.02%, while Binance has a maker fee of 0.02% and a ticker of 0.05%.
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December 07, 2023, 11:23:18 AM
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I thought that you're giving some advise and tips to the traders here and to the aspiring ones as well. But after reading these questions and answers that you've got. Are you a profitable trader? if yes, there's no need for you to ask people to trade for them. That's a bad offer that everyone should avoid because if someone who's lack knowledge that these things shouldn't be patronized, they're going to lose their money from these likely scams. $5k for cooperation as minimum? LOL. That's easy money for you, do yourself a favor, trade today and make that much.


As I said before, it is possible to do it with small money for testing. But to cooperate for a period of 3-6 months, working with amounts less than $5000 is not justified for me at all. I must add that I prefer to work with 4 people with a capital of $5000 instead of with 20 people with a capital of $1000. The reason is that the trades are not done by robots but by humans. Therefore, it is not possible to work with a large number of accounts.

I am the one who should laugh, not you. If I am willing to cooperate with an amount less than $1000, you will say that this amount is very small, why do you want to use the cooperation of others. Someone who has been trading for years and has reached enough skill, why should he spend his time for small amounts?
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December 07, 2023, 12:40:15 PM
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I thought that you're giving some advise and tips to the traders here and to the aspiring ones as well. But after reading these questions and answers that you've got. Are you a profitable trader? if yes, there's no need for you to ask people to trade for them. That's a bad offer that everyone should avoid because if someone who's lack knowledge that these things shouldn't be patronized, they're going to lose their money from these likely scams. $5k for cooperation as minimum? LOL. That's easy money for you, do yourself a favor, trade today and make that much.
As I said before, it is possible to do it with small money for testing. But to cooperate for a period of 3-6 months, working with amounts less than $5000 is not justified for me at all. I must add that I prefer to work with 4 people with a capital of $5000 instead of with 20 people with a capital of $1000. The reason is that the trades are not done by robots but by humans. Therefore, it is not possible to work with a large number of accounts.
It's better to consolidate all of your replies into one post because a mod is likely to do that if you won't do. Actually, this isn't about working with people but working with the money that will be allowed for you to use. I don't see a sense of it if you can make winnable trades, why there's a need to cooperate with other people. I won't even put it on public that I am the best profitable trader in the town and will keep digging the holes and caves of the exchanges until I become rich quietly.

I am the one who should laugh, not you. If I am willing to cooperate with an amount less than $1000, you will say that this amount is very small, why do you want to use the cooperation of others.
$1k or less than that isn't a small one, maybe from where you are it is but mostly it's not. If I'd do that to a stranger, I'd rather learn with that amount with my own trades but then, that's just me.

Someone who has been trading for years and has reached enough skill, why should he spend his time for small amounts?
For sure you are able to save and don't need the money of others.

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December 07, 2023, 12:50:41 PM
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So, the benefits are split 50/50.
What about the losses? Surely there's no sharing of losses, right? This is not fair cooperation.


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Our predicted ratio is about 10~15 percent per month.
This is just an expected ratio but you won't be fixated on this, you're not using your own money and you're free to take any level of risk (that is if you're legit).

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December 07, 2023, 01:35:45 PM
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So, the benefits are split 50/50.
What about the losses? Surely there's no sharing of losses, right? This is not fair cooperation.


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We will trade
Where is your team?

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Our predicted ratio is about 10~15 percent per month.
This is just an expected ratio but you won't be fixated on this, you're not using your own money and you're free to take any level of risk (that is if you're legit).

In this cooperation, one team shares its time and another person shares its capital. If there is a loss, the time spent on trading is wasted, as well. If you think that money is the only important factor, yes, it is not a fair cooperation, but if the time spent by people in this work is valuable, then it is a fair cooperation.

As I have mentioned in a few previous posts, we have included a kind of capital management in our strategy, so that the risk is minimal in each trade, as a result the profit is also low. But with a higher number of trades by our team, we increase the cumulative profit in a day. Currently, the average daily profit of our team is about 1.36% of the total capital. If trading is done 20 days a month, the compound profit will be about 31%, half of which belongs to the investor.
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