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December 08, 2023, 01:06:31 AM
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kids, adult or elders all taking overdose of drug, more drug more performance, but body begin to break apart, I know some are stronger and can taking higher dose of drug before breaking, but many would have totally broken, broken body lead to dead people,

I would say that the drugs are the worst enemies we have and if we take very high dose of a drug then that can impact our health in the worst way. I don't believe that a drug is needed for the ones who want to work because we can work without drugs, all we need is food and that works way better then drugs. Our body needs Carbohydrates, Proteins, Fats, Some Vitamins and Minerals and a few other nutrition factors and that's all.

We are just addicting ourselves to drugs because we don't have the will power to do the work without it and it's not entirely our fault. The drug industry is growing at very fast rates and they want us to be dependent on drugs in order to have good revenue from those drugs that they sell. I'm a pharmacist myself but I try my best to avoid drugs as much as possible. I only take drugs when it's very needed but only pain-killers or a few anti-biotics. I believe that we need to work because without work we can't make the world a better place but I'm pretty sure that we don't need all those drugs in order to work.

Did OP is talking about the actual drug such as coke or the medicine that we usually call a drug?

Well medicine is a multi-billion dollar industry and it is evident that they try to milk as much as possible from a patient and also we have theories that drug manufacturing companies make new diseases so they can keep selling the medicine and make money but what we can do, we need to buy it or else our life could end up fatal.
lmao, do you know anyone who havent be taking drugs? I think drugs is everywhere even in the food and in the milks!! Everybody have drugs in their bloods.

Again. It highly depends on your definition of what Drugs are and whether they are all negative or they can also be positive for our health. As a matter of fact our bodies have the capabilities to sintetize they own "drugs" out of the things we eat and drink naturally. I am taking about testosterone, estrogen, enzymes, acids, bases, etc.
Though , I believe you must be taking bout sintetic substances created by human beings.

By the way, I read a very concerning story on the news, about how flight operators are literally taking drugs to stay awake and smoking weed in their working shifts. For some reason there seems to be a shortage of airport operators in the United States...

Fine, I would define drug for you. Drug is not same as typical food because drug is a form of substance that is usually synthesized in the labs, thus you can call it man-made alternative to food or drink, which is in total contrast of nutrition or dietetic, the reason drug stand out is due to low cost, it is much cheaper to obtain derivative drug to the equivalent nutrition nature based derivative, thus most of the time we would get drug instead of actual food, we get medicine that is chemically synthesized instead of medicine that is extracted from actual fruit. On paper both drug and nutrition serve the same purpose of providing the same substance, for instance ascorbic acid, both can be chemically made or extract from actual food, but just make them in the labs, it is much cheaper and profitable and they are the same in paper so who care we just sell ascorbic acid, consumer do not care, they care the price, so is drug better than actual fruit equivalent, idk it is up to you to think, we can see with our own eyes time after time.

Finally, drug can be in the form of solid mass such as tablet, liquid such as juice, or capsule such as pill, we usually do not recommend overdosing drug but we recommend overdosing food or drink, make you think.

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December 08, 2023, 12:39:18 PM
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I read an article where it was reported that methamphetamine is now cheaper than food and water in Laos food and water. The price of this drug has dropped because of an increase in production. I don't think drug addiction will ever come to an end it will keep increasing in the future. In my country children as small as twelve are drug sellers. The internet is not also helping matters because one can order of drug from the comfort of his home and it will be delivered to his doorstep. Law enforcement agencies that would have curtailed the activities of drug barons are so corrupt that they receive bribes and give these criminals the privilege of flooding the city with drugs.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/7/cheaper-than-beer-laos-meth-prices-plummet-as-myanmar-chaos-fuels-trade 
Anyone who has decided to take hard drugs just to work hard to earn more money or anyone who has decided to abuse drugs made for treatment will face the consequences, the op is right the use of hard drugs is something else and the more people die cause of hard drugs the more adopters we get, people will never change.
I will not blame the Internet or anyone trying to sell, why blaming them? That's their business and if they refuse to sell those boys will buy somewhere else
Check properly, children who sell hard drugs are always affected and will always regret, I will blame the parents and not the child, kids get easily influenced and they need a guide that's why parents should always guide their kids.

drugs is inside your foods too, your favorite chicken wing is full of drugs which induce aging and grow muscle, when you eat the chicken you absorb the drug too, the drug take effects on all labs rat and also on human flesh, as long as it is meat it cam absorb the drug.
I don't know what you're trying to say I'm actually referring to hard drugs not chemical preservative, although some food we eat are highly medicinal, I don't really understand your idea or you're trying to say the food we eat are made with hard drugs or what?
Chemical preservative are used to preserve our food like the benzoic acid, patassium etc, the meat or chicken you mentioned are preserved with nitrites although it has negative side effects, the chemical preservative in our food cause more harms in our body system but the problem is we can't stop eating such food cause those preservative are meant to protect the food from getting spoiled or bacteria.
If you're talking about the natural food like vegetable, avocado, apple etc that doesn't require preservative.
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December 08, 2023, 12:56:07 PM
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I read an article where it was reported that methamphetamine is now cheaper than food and water in Laos food and water. The price of this drug has dropped because of an increase in production. I don't think drug addiction will ever come to an end it will keep increasing in the future. In my country children as small as twelve are drug sellers. The internet is not also helping matters because one can order of drug from the comfort of his home and it will be delivered to his doorstep. Law enforcement agencies that would have curtailed the activities of drug barons are so corrupt that they receive bribes and give these criminals the privilege of flooding the city with drugs.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/7/cheaper-than-beer-laos-meth-prices-plummet-as-myanmar-chaos-fuels-trade 
Anyone who has decided to take hard drugs just to work hard to earn more money or anyone who has decided to abuse drugs made for treatment will face the consequences, the op is right the use of hard drugs is something else and the more people die cause of hard drugs the more adopters we get, people will never change.
I will not blame the Internet or anyone trying to sell, why blaming them? That's their business and if they refuse to sell those boys will buy somewhere else
Check properly, children who sell hard drugs are always affected and will always regret, I will blame the parents and not the child, kids get easily influenced and they need a guide that's why parents should always guide their kids.

drugs is inside your foods too, your favorite chicken wing is full of drugs which induce aging and grow muscle, when you eat the chicken you absorb the drug too, the drug take effects on all labs rat and also on human flesh, as long as it is meat it cam absorb the drug.
I don't know what you're trying to say I'm actually referring to hard drugs not chemical preservative, although some food we eat are highly medicinal, I don't really understand your idea or you're trying to say the food we eat are made with hard drugs or what?
Chemical preservative are used to preserve our food like the benzoic acid, patassium etc, the meat or chicken you mentioned are preserved with nitrites although it has negative side effects, the chemical preservative in our food cause more harms in our body system but the problem is we can't stop eating such food cause those preservative are meant to protect the food from getting spoiled or bacteria.
If you're talking about the natural food like vegetable, avocado, apple etc that doesn't require preservative.
what, why do you not understand, drug is all form of chemicals, not all chemicals you can safely eat but drugs is some of the chemical which is believe to be safe to consume, but cautiously, within the dose, if you don't get it enzymes too is drug, enzymes is highly effective in growing a lot of crops within as little time as possible, we solve our food crisis because we chemically catalyse the growth process of the food and mass producing everything from food to drink to drugs. obviously what we are doing is trying to defy the gravity, make the impossible to work, we successfully create a miracle that is mass producing meat vegetable potato fruits whatever you name it and we convince ourselves everything is fine, all those mass produced foods are perfectly safe and better than GMOs, but you can fool the people but you cant fool the nature, the mass produce foods has something that we are unheard of, that we do not know it existed that we think are unimportant, but it has this something that is breaking, we finally see what is going on, that is correct the drug may taste and look and feel like real food, but it is lacking something, that lacking is the problem that lead to another even bigger problem, idk what should I say, do you see what drug has do to our body? I think human become extremely fragile and easy to break when they take drug, the people of the stone age can withstand a lot of stress than modern generations, yes I'm trying to say drug produce strawberry generation, which is lack of every important ingredient due to poor diet, due to drug, they are fragile weak and emotional, that is what you get for taking drug ibstead of real foods

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December 08, 2023, 04:17:53 PM
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But that's what the Elite want for you. They want you to work until you break. Why? If you work, they get the results, and get richer. If you die from it... well, they wanted depopulation, didn't they?

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December 08, 2023, 06:42:55 PM
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Fine, I would define drug for you. Drug is not same as typical food because drug is a form of substance that is usually synthesized in the labs, thus you can call it man-made alternative to food or drink, which is in total contrast of nutrition or dietetic, the reason drug stand out is due to low cost, it is much cheaper to obtain derivative drug to the equivalent nutrition nature based derivative, thus most of the time we would get drug instead of actual food, we get medicine that is chemically synthesized instead of medicine that is extracted from actual fruit. On paper both drug and nutrition serve the same purpose of providing the same substance, for instance ascorbic acid, both can be chemically made or extract from actual food, but just make them in the labs, it is much cheaper and profitable and they are the same in paper so who care we just sell ascorbic acid, consumer do not care, they care the price, so is drug better than actual fruit equivalent, idk it is up to you to think, we can see with our own eyes time after time.

Finally, drug can be in the form of solid mass such as tablet, liquid such as juice, or capsule such as pill, we usually do not recommend overdosing drug but we recommend overdosing food or drink, make you think.

Those who try to take drugs in order to meet their daily nutrition requirements are misguided ones. The real nutrition is in the foods that we eat and it can't be copied in laboratory. The essential amino acids, vitamins, minerals, and other nutrients are present in food. When we consume different variety of foods we gain those essential nutrients but those who are thinking about getting those nutrients from chemical based alternatives or you can say drugs are misguided. The fresh food gives us far more nutrients and those nutriments are helpful for us as they improve our health.

We can surely get some of those nutrients in drug form but I believe that they won't be much helpful or healthy at all. In fact it has been proven by many researches or you can say real life examples that food is way better than drugs because it has no side or adverse effects.

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December 08, 2023, 07:34:10 PM
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Fine, I would define drug for you. Drug is not same as typical food because drug is a form of substance that is usually synthesized in the labs, thus you can call it man-made alternative to food or drink, which is in total contrast of nutrition or dietetic, the reason drug stand out is due to low cost, it is much cheaper to obtain derivative drug to the equivalent nutrition nature based derivative, thus most of the time we would get drug instead of actual food, we get medicine that is chemically synthesized instead of medicine that is extracted from actual fruit. On paper both drug and nutrition serve the same purpose of providing the same substance, for instance ascorbic acid, both can be chemically made or extract from actual food, but just make them in the labs, it is much cheaper and profitable and they are the same in paper so who care we just sell ascorbic acid, consumer do not care, they care the price, so is drug better than actual fruit equivalent, idk it is up to you to think, we can see with our own eyes time after time.

Finally, drug can be in the form of solid mass such as tablet, liquid such as juice, or capsule such as pill, we usually do not recommend overdosing drug but we recommend overdosing food or drink, make you think.

Those who try to take drugs in order to meet their daily nutrition requirements are misguided ones. The real nutrition is in the foods that we eat and it can't be copied in laboratory. The essential amino acids, vitamins, minerals, and other nutrients are present in food. When we consume different variety of foods we gain those essential nutrients but those who are thinking about getting those nutrients from chemical based alternatives or you can say drugs are misguided. The fresh food gives us far more nutrients and those nutriments are helpful for us as they improve our health.

We can surely get some of those nutrients in drug form but I believe that they won't be much helpful or healthy at all. In fact it has been proven by many researches or you can say real life examples that food is way better than drugs because it has no side or adverse effects.

Btw most of my words is based on solely my very personal opinions, I do not have intensive research or study to back my points, most of them are completely based on my very own opinions and I do not refering to anyone or anything else when writing them, as you can see they are only good for joking around, just an information that may be meant to provide competent and reliable to some people, I held no responsibilities to misguiding or mistakes, I even doubt whether my definition is adequately written as it contain as many as possible made belief point but hold absolutely zero substance, you can say I may be just selling story that has no substance, of course I would like to see your response, some of you are quite knowledgable so I would be more than happy to heard from you where I can make improvement. btw you must be quite generalize to outright conclude some point above, are you have any solid proof or you just assume them because it make you look great?

Do you said many researches, do you have the research with you? do you mind to share them with me? I know those are very valuable piece of materials but I would to take a look, just an excerpt is more than enough not necessarily full content.

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December 08, 2023, 09:33:31 PM
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I hate to say this, folks won't stop working, won't stop the trajectory, won't stop the line goes up, won't stop the performance trajectory, folks begin to overdose drug to increase efficiency,

It's a bad thing to always work and never have plans on when to rest or take some break off the work, the worst that they make to complicate the whole issue is to have an additional use of drugs on themselves for more performance, this is not to increase the work efficiency, but at the long run, we are rather depreciating it because we are forcing our body immune to over stress and over work tirelessly.
Exactly my point also,  because with my research and experiment on drug uasge to improve efficiency it has been discovered that many have been publicly misled into believing such statement that drug increases they efficiency and fhat have made them to increase they drug in take,  but on the long run,  this have slow down the performance and drained out their ability to think in the right direction and some even lose the memory due to high intake of drugs.

Sometimes,  it is far better to understand your body systems and try as much as possible to run your working time around that naturally available things like not working too much and also taking adequate rest in between because the long-term impact of drug usage may destroy the person quicker than the over work he is trying to fight over.
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December 09, 2023, 02:18:29 PM
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~Snip~
Do you said many researches, do you have the research with you? do you mind to share them with me? I know those are very valuable piece of materials but I would to take a look, just an excerpt is more than enough not necessarily full content.

Just go through this article and you'll learn enough about the differences between natural and synthetic nutrition. Just give it a proper read you will understand that Nutritional supplements vs nutrition value in natural foods and you'll also find that our body accepts nutrients properly if they come from food.

You may also read this one Synthetic and Natural Nutritional Supplements: Health "Allies" or Risks to Public Health?


I hope you'll learn something by reading those articles.

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December 09, 2023, 04:37:40 PM
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~Snip~
Do you said many researches, do you have the research with you? do you mind to share them with me? I know those are very valuable piece of materials but I would to take a look, just an excerpt is more than enough not necessarily full content.

Just go through this article and you'll learn enough about the differences between natural and synthetic nutrition. Just give it a proper read you will understand that Nutritional supplements vs nutrition value in natural foods and you'll also find that our body accepts nutrients properly if they come from food.

You may also read this one Synthetic and Natural Nutritional Supplements: Health "Allies" or Risks to Public Health?


I hope you'll learn something by reading those articles.

It look like some article written by some random internet guy, honestly I would not want to read them unless they are verified, plus I'm very tired, I do not want to waste too much time and energy on something very trivial, show me something that has earned the reputations to be reliable, I means it can be leaded by a team, and the team are recognizable not some random guy on the internet, someone such as Saifedean who wrote the bitcoin standard book, and then I would read them.

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December 09, 2023, 04:39:54 PM
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~Snip~
Do you said many researches, do you have the research with you? do you mind to share them with me? I know those are very valuable piece of materials but I would to take a look, just an excerpt is more than enough not necessarily full content.

Just go through this article and you'll learn enough about the differences between natural and synthetic nutrition. Just give it a proper read you will understand that Nutritional supplements vs nutrition value in natural foods and you'll also find that our body accepts nutrients properly if they come from food.

You may also read this one Synthetic and Natural Nutritional Supplements: Health "Allies" or Risks to Public Health?


I hope you'll learn something by reading those articles.

Science can be proven in either ways and I do agree that nutrients coming from food is a good form of what we can get but what about the food we are eating, its no longer completely organic, and if it is then it won't be affordable for an average middle-class people. Medicine is like an instant solution for the conditions but most of the medicines never cure them, they just keep it as they are and we need to keep using it forever.









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You need to work on a “FIRE” (financially independent, retire early) plan if you want to get out of the rat race. The sooner you start working on it the earlier you can stop working. The basic idea is generating passive income from your investments and live off of it. When your passive income is more than your expenses, you can retire early. If you want to be on the safer side, work till you double your targeted passive income. Cutting your expenses is also a legit way of reaching your goals faster. For example you don’t need to drive a Benz, or live in a big house. These create liabilities and liabilities eat away your income. They make you poor. The less liabilities and more income producing assets you have, the richer you will be.

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Most person prefer working very much and hardly give themselves time to rest, they keep feeling at a time where you do nothing is you being a lazy person and would always want to keep themselves busy. Some are naturally strong to that extent why some of them would depend on drugs to give them thd ability to carry out such functions. There are so many disheartening effect of not taking rest from work as it can affect both mentally and physically like fatigue, anxiety and do many of them, the worst of adding drugs may be hard drugs or just taking excessive of pain relief drugs to ease from the over working is deadly and anyone suffering from this should be looked out for.

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You need to work on a “FIRE” (financially independent, retire early) plan if you want to get out of the rat race. The sooner you start working on it the earlier you can stop working. The basic idea is generating passive income from your investments and live off of it. When your passive income is more than your expenses, you can retire early. If you want to be on the safer side, work till you double your targeted passive income. Cutting your expenses is also a legit way of reaching your goals faster. For example you don’t need to drive a Benz, or live in a big house. These create liabilities and liabilities eat away your income. They make you poor. The less liabilities and more income producing assets you have, the richer you will be.

Robert Kiyosaki has a fantastic book which explains the details. Read it.

I dont care about the guy named kiyosaki tbh, if there is anything I would like to say, he is scammer who sell books to get rich, no better than WB, btw I had read a couple of his books I know clearly what is his intention in his books, I do not need anymore content from his books, most of the content in his books has zero substances, there is only one thing I could say about his book, his book and his success can be easily duplicate by playing monopoly board game but for some reason American is so lazy they do not even brother playing to win a board game, they rather someone write a book full of non-sense to explain the ins-and-outs of a board game, where they could finally find the excuse to blame the author for writing a book, organizing seminar and pyramid schemes and get rich quick scheme, making thing hyper complicated, so is there anything you think I can gain from his book, I tell you again, NOTHING, his book is a joke, I call it a joke the last time I read it, I still call it a joke today, his book has never improved or worth reading, fullstop.

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You need to work on a “FIRE” (financially independent, retire early) plan if you want to get out of the rat race. The sooner you start working on it the earlier you can stop working. The basic idea is generating passive income from your investments and live off of it. When your passive income is more than your expenses, you can retire early. If you want to be on the safer side, work till you double your targeted passive income. Cutting your expenses is also a legit way of reaching your goals faster. For example you don’t need to drive a Benz, or live in a big house. These create liabilities and liabilities eat away your income. They make you poor. The less liabilities and more income producing assets you have, the richer you will be.

Robert Kiyosaki has a fantastic book which explains the details. Read it.

I dont care about the guy named kiyosaki tbh, if there is anything I would like to say, he is scammer who sell books to get rich, no better than WB, btw I had read a couple of his books I know clearly what is his intention in his books, I do not need anymore content from his books, most of the content in his books has zero substances, there is only one thing I could say about his book, his book and his success can be easily duplicate by playing monopoly board game but for some reason American is so lazy they do not even brother playing to win a board game, they rather someone write a book full of non-sense to explain the ins-and-outs of a board game, where they could finally find the excuse to blame the author for writing a book, organizing seminar and pyramid schemes and get rich quick scheme, making thing hyper complicated, so is there anything you think I can gain from his book, I tell you again, NOTHING, his book is a joke, I call it a joke the last time I read it, I still call it a joke today, his book has never improved or worth reading, fullstop.

Well, he is a book seller, of course he is trying to sell more books. What do you expect from him? That doesn't mean that he is a scammer though. According to your logic, every book author is a scammer...

It is sad if you feel that way. I already told you the main idea of the book anyway and looks like you already read it since you know about the board game stuff.

You may hate the guy but what he said is common sense and it is all true.

You need to have more passive income than your expenses... How could this idea be wrong or stupid? If you can't meet these conditions then I am sorry but you will work till you break because living costs money. Unless you find a way to pay for these expenses without working, that's how it is gonna be forever.

I bought the book, read it and I am glad I did. (I read many other books too, not from this author though)  Even though I knew about most of the stuff he tells in the book, it strengthened my position.

Real wealth comes from the assets you own, not from the cash you own. Hoard assets, simple. There is nothing complicated with that.

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I hate to say this, folks won't stop working, won't stop the trajectory, won't stop the line goes up, won't stop the performance trajectory, folks begin to overdose drug to increase efficiency,


If you don't have the privilege to take breaks just like most of people then we have no other choice, economic stability is important too for an average person. They can't afford to take breaks from the job because there will always be someone waiting for that spot to get replaced so if you take breaks then you need to start all over again and again that is not smart.

This is the problem we are facing in the society. Everything is already designed to work that way and if you don’t want to do it, they have plenty of people willing to take over the job. For you not to feel left out or feared of being sacked, drugging the body for more performance will be the next thing to do which is causing more harm to the body. Going for drug to prove to your employee that you can do the work better is not the best thing to do, your body needs rest and when it is calling for one you should give it instead of adding substance to your body system to show that you can perform more than what your body can give.

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NOTHING, his book is a joke, I call it a joke the last time I read it, I still call it a joke today, his book has never improved or worth reading, fullstop.
It may have nothing but still, he managed to sell them and become a millionaire so either you are too stubborn to hear anything other than you want or too naive...

The book is about telling the difference between two different mindsets in society and accept it or not it clearly helped to get better picture for lot of people but you can't become rich by doing what he did, you need to find your own and for the record you will never become financially independent as long as you are working for a salary.









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When you’re caught in the day to day grind it can feel like you’re trapped or even enslaved. I think the way out is to save money and then start a business doing something you love. Then work won’t feel like a trap. Instead it will feel like you’re doing what you love to do with your life. It can be hard and not everyone will make it, but maybe you owe it to yourself to try.

Personally I have made a few moves to get out of the "rat race". I dont have ant FIAT
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for myself. I did this approximately 3 months ago and reaping the rewards of it now.

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NOTHING, his book is a joke, I call it a joke the last time I read it, I still call it a joke today, his book has never improved or worth reading, fullstop.
It may have nothing but still, he managed to sell them and become a millionaire so either you are too stubborn to hear anything other than you want or too naive...

The book is about telling the difference between two different mindsets in society and accept it or not it clearly helped to get better picture for lot of people but you can't become rich by doing what he did, you need to find your own and for the record you will never become financially independent as long as you are working for a salary.

Like you said, the mindset is the most important thing here. Even when you are working for a salary, you need to pretend like the company is your customer.  Tongue You need to think like a businessman. If you embrace the wage-slave situation, then obviously you will never find a way out. The author we are talking about also worked for Xerox for a while before he started his own empire.

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Some people are workerholicks by nature, they will keep on working and working till it turned them to something else and at the end they will leave the work and other's will continue from there, such is life because some have been doing same right before we started and some will also continue after us when we are not there or available anymore to continue, we should be careful of not getting overworked that we don't have the strength to do more in the future.



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i would say that the capitalistic system of our society has pushed individuals to go beyond their limits it is greed that drives them forward and makes them think that they can overwork themselves until they get whatever it is that they want sometimes it is a need that makes them work really hard maybe they need more money to help their family but also sometimes some people just care too much about what other people think that they don’t want to appear weak or less successful

in this case, it is up to the individual to help themselves get out of this mindset or way of living

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