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December 10, 2023, 07:12:01 AM
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I once compared something quite similar to our current lives, as chickens that are raised in captivity and fed until they are big enough to be killed to provide food. Although it sounds negative, it reflects the current lives of many people. The tension in today's society is inevitable, but the pressures of life from food, work, and family,... the only difference is that we are humans, so we know more things.

A few years ago, when I decided to quit my job at a technology company in the city to return to the countryside for a more peaceful life, it was not an escape from the complexities of society, but I felt a truth about the meaning of each person's life. Each of us is born with our own destiny, and the current situation is just a challenge for us to think about and overcome towards a better development of life awareness. Maybe sometimes the complexity of life's perspective causes chaos to last forever, and the next generations continue to experience it. It is a truth that I feel that life is truly suffering, so finding a way to get rid of it is the reason that I think a long life is ideal. Actually, I learned this in Buddhism, the religion in which I really believe that everything in life is answered, of course it is not faith-based like many other religions that I know, but I feel the truth stated.









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December 10, 2023, 07:17:43 AM
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NOTHING, his book is a joke, I call it a joke the last time I read it, I still call it a joke today, his book has never improved or worth reading, fullstop.
It may have nothing but still, he managed to sell them and become a millionaire so either you are too stubborn to hear anything other than you want or too naive...

The book is about telling the difference between two different mindsets in society and accept it or not it clearly helped to get better picture for lot of people but you can't become rich by doing what he did, you need to find your own and for the record you will never become financially independent as long as you are working for a salary.

Like you said, the mindset is the most important thing here. Even when you are working for a salary, you need to pretend like the company is your customer.  Tongue You need to think like a businessman. If you embrace the wage-slave situation, then obviously you will never find a way out. The author we are talking about also worked for Xerox for a while before he started his own empire.

Not everyone is born as rich even if they did they don't get any inheritance from their parents so they need capital and experience to start anything for that we may have to work for a salary even though if we realize its the modern-day slavery then we need to save it enough to kick start what we have in mind and execute all the things we wanted perfectly.









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December 12, 2023, 07:55:06 AM
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The need to work hard and often is driven by things like economic pressures, rising costs of living & and the pursuit of financial stability contribute to the necessity of working long hours. There are some ways to make life better. Prioritising work to life balance, setting boundaries & and practicing self care can help reduce stress & improve overall well being. You could explore alternative sources of income, try to pursue passions & hobbies & form strong social connections to enhance fulfilment & make life more enjoyable. It is important to find a balance between work & personal life to create a better quality of life.

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December 12, 2023, 10:09:18 AM
Last edit: December 12, 2023, 03:22:05 PM by Broly46
 #44

NOTHING, his book is a joke, I call it a joke the last time I read it, I still call it a joke today, his book has never improved or worth reading, fullstop.
It may have nothing but still, he managed to sell them and become a millionaire so either you are too stubborn to hear anything other than you want or too naive...

The book is about telling the difference between two different mindsets in society and accept it or not it clearly helped to get better picture for lot of people but you can't become rich by doing what he did, you need to find your own and for the record you will never become financially independent as long as you are working for a salary.

I'm not saying his book is bad, but I'm trying to be make it clear what I feel about his books, obviously his book is a spot on to American society pre dot com bubble 2000, where most American are hardest working class who work really hard for money but ignore everything else just like what it is described in the book about poor dad, I mean American used to be the world leader in everything before the dot com bubble, they work very hard to achieve the American Dream. His book is a perfect complimentary addition to them, because the American by the time work so hard for money yet they could not stop working, they get confused, they get savage, they feel cheated, they are unable to understand "what am I fighting for!" mmx4 chorus kicking in meme, obviously the rich dad poor dad come in handy to the rescue, after reading the book, they can finally see the answer to their problem, and they can finally know what they are after in life, But for loser like me obviously there is nothing else I can gain from his book, so I do not need to know anything more from a guy named kiyosaki, his book might be best fit to winner who get lost in life purpose and want their puzzle answered.

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December 12, 2023, 03:25:46 PM
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Not everyone is born as rich even if they did they don't get any inheritance from their parents so they need capital and experience to start anything for that we may have to work for a salary even though if we realize its the modern-day slavery then we need to save it enough to kick start what we have in mind and execute all the things we wanted perfectly.

but what we becomes lies in our hands, this is a personal determination and not a collective one, we can get determined to have a change of story, work hard and have a new life, making money and becoming rich is not by hardworks, it's starts from what we are thinking about, the mentality of our state of minds is what transpired to the physical behaviours of what we are doing that make us get rich, that's why those that earns more are the ones that uses their brain to think and not their physical body to work.
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December 12, 2023, 04:11:08 PM
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There comes a time when employers take too much, and don't give enough to their employees. That's the time the employees need to start working for themselves.

Woodman's Market is an employee owned grocery chain. Decades ago the Woodman family wanted to sell out or shut her down. The employees got together and bought it out. What was family pofits in the past are now shared among the employees.

A similar thing happened with Yelloh back when it was still called Schwan's Home Delivery. Mr. Schwan passed away, and his family was going to sell off the business. The employees got together and bought it.

There are probably many business that are employee owned - https://duckduckgo.com/?q=employee+owned+businesses&ia=web.

The point is, when you can't get ahead in your work, work, work, it might be a good idea to get together with others in the same 'poverty' state as you are, and start a business together. You all become the people making the profits that way.

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I hate to say this, folks won't stop working, won't stop the trajectory, won't stop the line goes up, won't stop the performance trajectory, folks begin to overdose drug to increase efficiency,


If you don't have the privilege to take breaks just like most of people then we have no other choice, economic stability is important too for an average person. They can't afford to take breaks from the job because there will always be someone waiting for that spot to get replaced so if you take breaks then you need to start all over again and again that is not smart.

In a sane society, breaks are not negotiable because they understand what it means to rest. Resting releases you of so many things that would have caused health issues and this is the reason that standard companies allows their workers for leave from work, they organise retreat etc. The body needs rest to avoid breakdown especially for people who are of age.

However, some workers don't value to rest as they exchange their rest time for money and they keep labouring their body all because of additional money.

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December 13, 2023, 05:11:57 AM
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I hate to say this, folks won't stop working, won't stop the trajectory, won't stop the line goes up, won't stop the performance trajectory, folks begin to overdose drug to increase efficiency,


If you don't have the privilege to take breaks just like most of people then we have no other choice, economic stability is important too for an average person. They can't afford to take breaks from the job because there will always be someone waiting for that spot to get replaced so if you take breaks then you need to start all over again and again that is not smart.

In a sane society, breaks are not negotiable because they understand what it means to rest. Resting releases you of so many things that would have caused health issues and this is the reason that standard companies allows their workers for leave from work, they organise retreat etc. The body needs rest to avoid breakdown especially for people who are of age.

However, some workers don't value to rest as they exchange their rest time for money and they keep labouring their body all because of additional money.

Call in sick for a couple of days then its okay but a break means for a while like a month then it won't be accepted in any companies unless you are really crucial resource for the company's future then they will give you a break with the pay but not every employee has that kind of golden ticket and they need to find a better work-life balance to handle their day to day strewss.











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The only people will stop working for individuals or government and concentrate on building themselves is to start saving no matter how small, immediately you got employed in a government or private firm, the first thing you should be thinking as a rational human being is to start saving so that you can build your own empire, successful people I this life started very small, so don't think that you must own everything before you can make a step, this life is one step at a time don't concentrate on salary or wages alone because this mindset will make you to be very poor, so what you should be doing at this point is to keep hope alive and struggle now so that you suffer when you are old.

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God created us to worship Him and spend the rest of our time working for ourselves and our families. So we have to work, there is no other way than work. Because we know action is life and status has no life. As long as you work, your brain will be healthy, normal, and free from distorted thoughts. Because we know the lazy mind is the devil's factory. But yes we should work as much as we need as much as our body and brain can tolerate. One should never work in a way that destroys the body because later on in healing that body one has to be far away from work where only anxiety resides.

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All work without a play only makes jack a dull, we must be serious with our works, but nevertheless, we also have to be mindful of how this is affecting our health and relationships, we can never finish work in life, the more we do the more the work keeps compiling for the next day, our parents have been doing this same work before we took over from them and we are also doing it to leave behind for the generation behind us, we must plan ourself well towards the best in the work we do after considering our own self advantage as well.
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Most person prefer working very much and hardly give themselves time to rest, they keep feeling at a time where you do nothing is you being a lazy person and would always want to keep themselves busy. Some are naturally strong to that extent why some of them would depend on drugs to give them thd ability to carry out such functions. There are so many disheartening effect of not taking rest from work as it can affect both mentally and physically like fatigue, anxiety and do many of them, the worst of adding drugs may be hard drugs or just taking excessive of pain relief drugs to ease from the over working is deadly and anyone suffering from this should be looked out for.
Whenever you have some break to rest at your working place, it gives you more strength to continue that Particular work with new energy that will make others workers to prefer the partner you are using, but those that take hard drugs always break down easily in the future and it will not allow you to do anything when the old age is coming because you force yourself to use the energy you would have use to keep yourself stronger in the old age.

 Many people have died in some places of work, based on the rules and regulations been giving to them not to rest until the closing time reach and, such people have their choice to resign from such job but base on scarcity of job in the society can make some to take the risk not knowing that it can affect their health anytime.

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There are people designed to work and the others to do their own thing, talented and uses that to make money.

Whichever you are in that bracket, time will come that your body will demand you someday with all of your tiredness into sickness. While the rest, you have to do what you have been doing for you to become stronger because that's what your body has been used to.

You'll just realize that you need not to put that much effort into your company when your body starts to break down and when you understand that when you're gone, in a few days they'll post a job post hiring for your position.

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Most person prefer working very much and hardly give themselves time to rest, they keep feeling at a time where you do nothing is you being a lazy person and would always want to keep themselves busy. Some are naturally strong to that extent why some of them would depend on drugs to give them thd ability to carry out such functions. There are so many disheartening effect of not taking rest from work as it can affect both mentally and physically like fatigue, anxiety and do many of them, the worst of adding drugs may be hard drugs or just taking excessive of pain relief drugs to ease from the over working is deadly and anyone suffering from this should be looked out for.
Whenever you have some break to rest at your working place, it gives you more strength to continue that Particular work with new energy that will make others workers to prefer the partner you are using, but those that take hard drugs always break down easily in the future and it will not allow you to do anything when the old age is coming because you force yourself to use the energy you would have use to keep yourself stronger in the old age.

 Many people have died in some places of work, based on the rules and regulations been giving to them not to rest until the closing time reach and, such people have their choice to resign from such job but base on scarcity of job in the society can make some to take the risk not knowing that it can affect their health anytime.

This is the reason I enjoy all this industrial companies they understand the essence of giving lower labor with a good space of time to rest allowing their workers be in a good form both mentally and physically so they give in their best knowledge into what they should do. If I don't get to rest when I know have been on hard labor then I am left with no option than to quit the job, may be speaking from experience, that is the most useless working habit, it drains life out of a person.

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Most people are struggling to make ends meet in most countries, it's either that they're overworked or just being paid a little extra or they're having a second job or a side hustle to be able to meet up with their basic expenditures, while prices of commodities keeps increasing everyday. Some unintentionally go into drug abuse, which can lead them to being addicts, due to the stressful demands of their jobs, they'll want to take a simple painkiller or some other drugs to reduce stress, as time goes on they'll unknowingly become addicted to these drugs, with time they'll be wanting more effective drugs, in the end it'll start affecting their health.

People are living in this rat race, especially in developing countries, overworking themselves and taking unprescribed drugs to ease their pains, that is why they're migrating in large numbers to developed countries, in search of better life.

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Most person prefer working very much and hardly give themselves time to rest, they keep feeling at a time where you do nothing is you being a lazy person and would always want to keep themselves busy. Some are naturally strong to that extent why some of them would depend on drugs to give them thd ability to carry out such functions. There are so many disheartening effect of not taking rest from work as it can affect both mentally and physically like fatigue, anxiety and do many of them, the worst of adding drugs may be hard drugs or just taking excessive of pain relief drugs to ease from the over working is deadly and anyone suffering from this should be looked out for.

Just as you listed it very hectic join stress of hard work with drugs, though it's the excess that worsen the case as many can't do without it.
Many use it to relax their nervous but use it wrong, most labour to make earms meet is full of hard work as little or no rest is required applying hard drug as alternative to quishing the stress is a wrong move it step.

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I hate to say this, folks won't stop working, won't stop the trajectory, won't stop the line goes up, won't stop the performance trajectory, folks begin to overdose drug to increase efficiency,


If you don't have the privilege to take breaks just like most of people then we have no other choice, economic stability is important too for an average person. They can't afford to take breaks from the job because there will always be someone waiting for that spot to get replaced so if you take breaks then you need to start all over again and again that is not smart.

In a sane society, breaks are not negotiable because they understand what it means to rest. Resting releases you of so many things that would have caused health issues and this is the reason that standard companies allows their workers for leave from work, they organise retreat etc. The body needs rest to avoid breakdown especially for people who are of age.

However, some workers don't value to rest as they exchange their rest time for money and they keep labouring their body all because of additional money.

Call in sick for a couple of days then its okay but a break means for a while like a month then it won't be accepted in any companies unless you are really crucial resource for the company's future then they will give you a break with the pay but not every employee has that kind of golden ticket and they need to find a better work-life balance to handle their day to day strewss.



Breaks are always there when you talk of in a sane country and that was why I used in a sane society earlier. Even AI needs some care after a while for them not to totally break down likewise human beings. So countries give time for their work force to go on break except the worker decides to sell of his or her liberty for break because they want more money otherwise there is time for break as the body needs some rest from time to time, so as to get back to work efficiently. If that is not observed, someone can have some health attack suddenly and it will be very severe because of accumulation of failing health situation that has gone untreated.

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Breaks are always there when you talk of in a sane country and that was why I used in a sane society earlier. Even AI needs some care after a while for them not to totally break down likewise human beings. So countries give time for their work force to go on break except the worker decides to sell of his or her liberty for break because they want more money otherwise there is time for break as the body needs some rest from time to time, so as to get back to work efficiently. If that is not observed, someone can have some health attack suddenly and it will be very severe because of accumulation of failing health situation that has gone untreated.

Paid vacation holiday almost exists in every corporate companies but it comes once in a year and that too kind of expensive if they actually plan for trips on that days so it's better to manage the work life to not get overwhelmed with stress or else it will be tricky over the years and I would say almost everyone used to the new era of competitive employment so they have to sacrifice something to stay alive in the race.









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March 03, 2024, 06:31:56 AM
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Most person prefer working very much and hardly give themselves time to rest, they keep feeling at a time where you do nothing is you being a lazy person and would always want to keep themselves busy. Some are naturally strong to that extent why some of them would depend on drugs to give them thd ability to carry out such functions. There are so many disheartening effect of not taking rest from work as it can affect both mentally and physically like fatigue, anxiety and do many of them, the worst of adding drugs may be hard drugs or just taking excessive of pain relief drugs to ease from the over working is deadly and anyone suffering from this should be looked out for.

Just as you listed it very hectic join stress of hard work with drugs, though it's the excess that worsen the case as many can't do without it.
Many use it to relax their nervous but use it wrong, most labour to make earms meet is full of hard work as little or no rest is required applying hard drug as alternative to quishing the stress is a wrong move it step.
What I fear the most is mental stress, if you have ever experienced such maybe then you get the clear picture of what I mean. First mental stress kills your physical appearances, it changes your mood always, causes depression and can lead to the usage or addiction of hard drugs or alcohol just to feel better.

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