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December 08, 2023, 02:46:16 AM
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If you work as a staff member in a physical casino as a dealer or in a sports bookie, I know that there are subtle ways you can use to encourage responsible gambling that will not go against the terms and conditions for staff.

For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?

What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?
As a worker, you should treat your work as a responsibility and act professionally, not tell customers to stop. This is the same as eliminating the source of income for the business where you work. There is no need to give advice like that to gamblers. In fact, you are trying to give good advice, but this advice actually kills the income of the business where you work, because a business definitely wants to make a lot of profit so that it can pay its employees. If you advise people who gamble to gamble responsibly, of course the business where you work will fall apart because maybe the gamblers gamble responsibly and don't experience gambling addiction. The casino owner will be happy if he sees people gambling with all their money and go home empty handed, meaning the casino owner makes a big profit and there is no way the casino owner will be happy if he sees the gamblers leave with a win which means the casino owner experiences a loss so in conclusion if I become workers at my casino will continue to work professionally and of course I will even tempt gambler to continue their activities Tongue

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December 08, 2023, 02:59:12 AM
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I won't be saying anything like that. First, that's not my job. Second, I might end up being reprimanded for not minding my own business. There are many gamblers in casinos who are not actually friendly, who could easily get irritated by side comments. I would rather just keep quiet and do my job well. But if after winning big, somebody smiles at me or even toss a chip or two, I might smile back, express my gratitude, and appreciate how big of a price he just got. But that's it. If they interpreted it as something like they should call it a day already, that's better.
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December 08, 2023, 06:44:28 AM
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And jeopardize his job? No, I don't think so and he ain't responsible for anything that happens. A gambler is a legal age adult which means he has his own choice if he wants to continue or not. That's on them. Giving them tips to walk away is like ruining the business where you are employed which makes you a traitor. Grin I would not do that if I were in that position. Sure, I can congratulate them for their winnings but I won't go as far as giving them an idea to run with the money.
A dealer's job is to just make the deal, he should have nothing to do with responsible gambling but if one gambler is out of control then maybe that's when he can call management to deal with them. I know what you are trying to point out, attempting to be the good guy in a bad business but again, you are currently employed with them and there are rules that you must adhere to.

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December 08, 2023, 07:40:01 AM
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If you work as a staff member in a physical casino as a dealer or in a sports bookie, I know that there are subtle ways you can use to encourage responsible gambling that will not go against the terms and conditions for staff.

For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?

What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?
Casinos have their own set of rules and I think majority of the casino wouldn't like to have a staff that is acting like this. If you are the owner of the casino, would you like to have a staff that is attempting to make the a winning gambler run away? Even if the staff don't go against the rules, I'm pretty sure that if the owner noticed his/her action, the staff would face consequences or worst losing the job.

I'm sure that staffs knows what's the nature of their work is. They don't work their to be a savior of winning/losing gamblers, they are all their to get what they want which is money.

I also think casino staffs who receives tips like dealers from winning players wouldn't want winning players to leave the casino, the more they win is the more tips dealer can make from the player.
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December 08, 2023, 08:17:08 AM
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If you work as a staff member in a physical casino as a dealer or in a sports bookie, I know that there are subtle ways you can use to encourage responsible gambling that will not go against the terms and conditions for staff.

For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?

What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?
I don't want to know which casino company you are talking about, they are all the same, and if you give someone a gambling advice you are already breaking the law of been a staff in the casino, telling anyone in the casino to stop gambling and take their win to avoid losing all is against the casino and if you are spotted you will lose your job..

I know someone that works in a casino, he once told me about how he used to help people, telling them to quit and they never for once listened to him, and most times they always end up leaving the casino with nothing, the described the problem with gamblers as a very bad addiction and greed.

Later he was served a notice to quit the company for no reason, I told him he must have been spotted by someone, this is why I said that advancing someone on the line of work will cost you, if you know anyone that's into gambling and you want to advice them let it not be inside the casino at the moment, maybe later after the day is over, not at work.

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December 08, 2023, 08:33:22 AM
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If you work as a staff member in a physical casino as a dealer or in a sports bookie, I know that there are subtle ways you can use to encourage responsible gambling that will not go against the terms and conditions for staff.

For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?

What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?

If you are an employee, just keep your mouth shut because its not right to talk with your customer convincing to quit as well as it is bad for the place where you are working.

I can only say about responsible gambling to someone is being one and show how it should be, actions speaks a lot louder than words.

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December 08, 2023, 08:52:20 AM
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Actually, I'm confused about how to answer it. On the one hand, I don't want to see him lose. On the other hand, I am a dealer in a brick-and-mortar casino. Maybe I'll just remind him gently so as not to offend him. Usually, people who have won a lot don't want to be reminded to stop. They feel they are still able to look after themselves well.

They might laugh when they see someone advising them to stop gambling. Moreover, they have won a lot of money. But then again, that won't stop them easily, as they still want to get another big win. That's where we have to leave the decision up to them. They will be responsible for their gambling activities.

We also can't keep reminding him to stop gambling, especially since we are the casino dealer. Our job is only to serve those who want to gamble and not to remind them to stop gambling. They should have the desire to stop gambling.

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December 08, 2023, 09:02:42 AM
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The only time a casino gambling staff has to approach and encourage) advice a gambler with some concerns of the Gambling is abiding to the policies of underaged person's who are not only limited to the gambling board but also as restricted from gambling so it is unprofessional for the staff to talk in a y form of advice towards a gambler who is winning or who is loosing to walk away.

So personally, I would say the staff should look away let the gambler make his decisions. Considering the gambler to have lost other times and the staff didn't ask him to stop betting further more and just walk away, so why should it be the periods of his lucky times to win you would ask me to walk away? This is what goes through the gamblers mind. Probably you don't you don't  wish him winning. That's his thoughts.
There are actually certain person's you offers profitable advices but seems it is one coming from a jealous or envious one just like the staff with the gambler.

Best approach or advice is the one coming from its own self. It would be better his fellow gambler take the lead to ask him to walk away than that of the staff.

Contrarily and moreover, a physical gambling casino is either tended to be one of other casinos agency or a personal owned whom is expected to make profits on behalf of the institutions or the Gambling company.

Interestingly, you can read about my previous post that discussed about "sympathies in the gambling tables" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5476475.msg63266727#msg63266727

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December 08, 2023, 09:09:41 AM
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I probably won't. People's way of viewing things is subjective and some might be offended if we would be advising them no matter how subtle we are of telling them. Remember you are a staff in the given scenario, therefore you would be considering such factors as well.
For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?
That act can dump you into trouble and cost your job, so as a worker be it in metaphor, overtly or directly it is not in your place or position to  entreat a customer to continue or stop from playing. You are violating work ethics and can land you to trouble and you continue do that same customers you think you are cautioning would be the ones to report to management of your actions and you be fired for good.
As an employer any employee that does that is bad for business and is not worthy of employment in that sector.
Indeed, our personal opinion should be set aside and that is called professionalism with our jobs.Sympathizing I guess with those who lost huge amount of money, probably, is the only reason where I would be stepping up to orher's problems. And this depends if I think that particular person would take my words.
If you talk about professionalism in work place then as a worker in a gambling hub you don't even have to step into any gambler's losing or win  situation whether he will accept your advise or not shouldn't be a concern of yours. Interpersonal, that's how you're bond to behave by the work ethics of the sector you are working in. Except you are related to the gambler in person then you can chip in a metaphor of advise but outside of that you don't just go giving your customers words to leave because you felt empathy for their losses.  
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December 08, 2023, 09:11:21 AM
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If you work as a staff member in a physical casino as a dealer or in a sports bookie, I know that there are subtle ways you can use to encourage responsible gambling that will not go against the terms and conditions for staff.

For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?

What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?
Is that within the terms? Does casino allow you to warn player if you genuinely think that he or she has a gambling addiction? I have not seen any casino worrying about the gambling addiction of their customers but some online casinos at least formally include links of gambling addiction support websites. So, if you work in a casino and encounter a gambler that he has gambling addiction, then you'll be fired immediately. First of all, casino owner cares only about the profit and secondly, you aren't paid for psychology classes, you are paid to do one, specific job, to deal cards or whatever it is.
The only moment when casino representative tell you to take your winnings and go is the moment when you earn tons from slot games and somehow aren't losing. In other cases, they try to get as much from you as possible.

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December 08, 2023, 10:15:13 AM
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If you work as a staff member in a physical casino as a dealer or in a sports bookie, I know that there are subtle ways you can use to encourage responsible gambling that will not go against the terms and conditions for staff.

For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?

What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?
As a worker, you should treat your work as a responsibility and act professionally, not tell customers to stop. This is the same as eliminating the source of income for the business where you work. There is no need to give advice like that to gamblers. In fact, you are trying to give good advice, but this advice actually kills the income of the business where you work, because a business definitely wants to make a lot of profit so that it can pay its employees. If you advise people who gamble to gamble responsibly, of course the business where you work will fall apart because maybe the gamblers gamble responsibly and don't experience gambling addiction. The casino owner will be happy if he sees people gambling with all their money and go home empty handed, meaning the casino owner makes a big profit and there is no way the casino owner will be happy if he sees the gamblers leave with a win which means the casino owner experiences a loss so in conclusion if I become workers at my casino will continue to work professionally and of course I will even tempt gambler to continue their activities Tongue
Can a business survive by encouraging hazardous behavior? Casinos make most of their money from gamblers, but there's a fine line between pleasure and addiction. Consider reputation: a casino that promotes responsible gambling may attract more customers. Balance short-term gains with long-term reputation and consumer loyalty. Your view on professional conduct is important, but isn't professionalism also about ethics? Is it not my job to protect clients if I see behaviors that potentially hurt them? By encouraging gamblers to bet properly, we're not destroying their income, but rather building a healthier, more sustainable connection. Building an ethical brand instead of maximising short-term revenues is a shift in viewpoint. Isn't that smarter business?

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December 08, 2023, 10:51:16 AM
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If you work as a staff member in a physical casino as a dealer or in a sports bookie, I know that there are subtle ways you can use to encourage responsible gambling that will not go against the terms and conditions for staff.

For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?

What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?
Casinos have their own set of rules and I think majority of the casino wouldn't like to have a staff that is acting like this. If you are the owner of the casino, would you like to have a staff that is attempting to make the a winning gambler run away? Even if the staff don't go against the rules, I'm pretty sure that if the owner noticed his/her action, the staff would face consequences or worst losing the job.

I'm sure that staffs knows what's the nature of their work is. They don't work their to be a savior of winning/losing gamblers, they are all their to get what they want which is money.

I also think casino staffs who receives tips like dealers from winning players wouldn't want winning players to leave the casino, the more they win is the more tips dealer can make from the player.
a casino where staff actively drive winning gamblers away. Madness, right? What if this kind of behavior, which seems crazy, is actually part of a plan? Casinos do best when people win and lose at the same time. Too many wins could scare off the majority of losers, and lets face it, most gamblers lose.

Now, as if the owner, I'd certainly raise an eyebrow at such tactics. But if these acts subtly encourage people who are more likely to lose to stay longer, might this not be a smart, if unusual, move? Staff who know how the casino works might be playing a complicated psychological game where they look crazy but are actually following a deeper plan.

As you might expect, this goes against how casinos usually work. But in a world where thinking outside the box is often praised, could this really be anything but another way of coming up with new ideas?

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December 08, 2023, 01:00:38 PM
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a casino where staff actively drive winning gamblers away. Madness, right? What if this kind of behavior, which seems crazy, is actually part of a plan? Casinos do best when people win and lose at the same time. Too many wins could scare off the majority of losers, and lets face it, most gamblers lose.

Now, as if the owner, I'd certainly raise an eyebrow at such tactics. But if these acts subtly encourage people who are more likely to lose to stay longer, might this not be a smart, if unusual, move? Staff who know how the casino works might be playing a complicated psychological game where they look crazy but are actually following a deeper plan.

As you might expect, this goes against how casinos usually work. But in a world where thinking outside the box is often praised, could this really be anything but another way of coming up with new ideas?
The majority of people lose in casinos; they're constructed in such a way that it makes you lose track of time and, eventually, your money. Moreover, they're getting suspicious when someone is winning large amounts of money and, indeed, may attempt to drive them away.

However, as a simple employee, it's generally advised to not interfere and mind your own business. You're not the one making choices here, but I understand the OP's point. I'd also hate seeing someone lose, especially if it's a regular attendant I personally know, but in general, it's a risk gamblers are willing to take and not our decision to make. I'd rather not get reprimanded by neither the gambler nor my employer for someone else's choice. On top of that, no casino would ever allow its employees to step in and interfere, as it's against the concept of casinos, which is to make money on other people's losses. Which business owner would jeopardize himself to save someone else's issues caused by their addictions?

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December 08, 2023, 02:30:37 PM
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For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?
You don't do that as that is against business policy. You work based on your job description and you don't discourage a gambler to stop when he's up, or the same when he's down. The casino's main goal is to increase their profit, so you should be supporting them as they are the ones who are paying you, not the gamblers.

What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?

Just be silent and respect the gamblers as you re not in the position to tell them to stop, they came in the casino so expect that they are already responsible enough.

And, if you are familiar with the words " conflict of interest", don't go against that.

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December 08, 2023, 03:12:05 PM
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If you work as a staff member in a physical casino as a dealer or in a sports bookie, I know that there are subtle ways you can use to encourage responsible gambling that will not go against the terms and conditions for staff.

For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?

What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?
I will admire the fact that he or she was able to wager such an amount over such short period of time but then I will not interfare in their choice, if he or she chooses to continue I will let them do their biddings but otherwise I will want to advise them about responsible gambling and to better withdraw that which they have won already.

Some times the reason some persons would wan to continue even after been so lucky with such wager is most likely because of greed and that has been the biggest challenge of most gamblers and it's really sad that at such a point if you try advising them, some may not take the advice and some may aswell take it but it's better they are allowed to do their biddings and if it turns out against them, they learn their lessons the hard way but in their favour they turn out lucky.

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December 08, 2023, 03:32:59 PM
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What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?
I will not say anything to the player because as casino staff we must continue to behave appropriately towards customers whether they can win with small capital or vice versa. After all, casino profits will depend on customer satisfaction unless the player has been reported by his family as a gambling addict so casinos need to take action so as not to make their customers' lives more difficult by allowing them to continue gambling.
But, if we have never worked as casino staff, we certainly wouldn't be able to say with certainty what we should do to our customers because casino staff have a job description of what they should do and what they shouldn't do, so only casino staff know exactly what they will do.

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December 08, 2023, 08:58:41 PM
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Always invest 10% of your salary into bitcoin, and if you want to gamble, use 10% of THAT to gamble, which would be tiny amount of your salary. I know that it may not sound like a lot of money to many of us, then you can just save it a bit and then do it once every few months if it's too little.

If you have 1000 dollar per month salary, that means 010 should go to bitcoin for saving, and 10 dollars should go to gambling, and we all know 10 dollars per month is not enough, so just save for 5 months and then you will have 50 dollars and you can start betting on sports at least. This is true for rich people as well, if you are super wealthy and make 1 million dollars profit per month income, then 100k should go to bitcoin, and 10k could go to gambling per month.

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December 08, 2023, 09:29:16 PM
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The staff is in no position to tell the customer what to do. The customer didn't ask so it's not his place to say anything. The staff is there to do a job and it's that job alone that they should do.
So I wouldn't say anything if I were the staff.
Aside from gambling, there are many scenarios where the staff giving the customer a bit of advice may seem okay but if it's not his job to say anything to the customer then he shouldn't.

My limit to encourage responsible gambling depends on the relationship I and the person have. But in general, all I can do is keep telling people around me. I have no right to tell a total stranger who didn't ask for my opinion on how to gamble.

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December 08, 2023, 09:55:17 PM
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If you work as a staff member in a physical casino as a dealer or in a sports bookie, I know that there are subtle ways you can use to encourage responsible gambling that will not go against the terms and conditions for staff.

For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?

What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?

I think a dealer first of all has a responsibility to his family - well, he has to work and bring in a salary. If he works against his employer by advising casino visitors to leave with their winnings, he will most likely lose his job very quickly. Now this moral problem looks different, doesn't it? And by the way, in general, there are many people who do not like unsolicited advice, regardless of the circumstances, so it is dangerous to advise something to strangers (even if you had such an opportunity).

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December 08, 2023, 10:21:38 PM
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If you work as a staff member in a physical casino as a dealer or in a sports bookie, I know that there are subtle ways you can use to encourage responsible gambling that will not go against the terms and conditions for staff.

For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?

What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?
You're not being loyal to your company so want your company to lose profit, you have no business saying this to clients, you are betraying the trust of your company, players do not want to tell them to stop and take their profit, it can come from others but never from a gambling staff, it's unusual for staff to do this, players will perceive you as someone who hated the company you're working if you tell them thee words and he might report you for giving unsolicited that puts the company in disadvantage.

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