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December 07, 2023, 10:50:42 PM
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If you intend to sell, then you may swap to altcoin from DEX and sell it. I had used TrustWallet to swap my coins, like from BNB to Bitcoin or Bitcoin to BNB. So it does break the chain and transaction history. For example, if you want to sell, convert your bitcoin to ETH and sell through P2P or whatever you like. If you still want to hold Bitcoin, then deposit ETH to centralised exchanges and make an exchange for Bitcoin. Then you can withdraw Bitcoin from the exchanges. Keep in mind that it does break all the previous transactions, but it doesn't assure your privacy when you are using centralised exchanges. They might know that you own the address, but you will get fresh coins from the exchange.

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December 07, 2023, 11:13:46 PM
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This is interesting.  What if btc you received from a long time ago wasn't worth much back then and the person or exchange you buy it from had issues? 


The thing is if you withdraw it from a gambling site, well what if it was some person who deposited that btc in a gambling site and now uses that btc to pay you? 
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December 08, 2023, 10:31:06 PM
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You can try and use Bisq or Agoradesk.

https://bisq.network/
https://agoradesk.com/

Other decentralized exchanges: https://kycnot.me/

Before you use these services (given your circumstances) you are probably best to find a Bitcoin to Monero exchange on kycnot.me, then from there swapping to xmr, and using agoradesk's monero mirror, local xmr, or swapping back to btc and using agoradesk. Monero is a protocol built for privacy and in a situation like this, it might help you to find some additional privacy than just using the services with the coins you have. You aren't doing anything wrong by achieving some privacy here, using a privacy protocol for its intended purpose might save you troubles if any troubles are related to your coins. if LE already picked up the guy though, you mightn't even have anything to worry about. Good luck Smiley

I'm not sure did I understand this bolded part correctly. Are you saying to exchange BTC to XMR P2P and then back to BTC? I tried searching for monero mirror, but I didn't find anything useful.



If you intend to sell, then you may swap to altcoin from DEX and sell it. I had used TrustWallet to swap my coins, like from BNB to Bitcoin or Bitcoin to BNB. So it does break the chain and transaction history. For example, if you want to sell, convert your bitcoin to ETH and sell through P2P or whatever you like. If you still want to hold Bitcoin, then deposit ETH to centralised exchanges and make an exchange for Bitcoin. Then you can withdraw Bitcoin from the exchanges. Keep in mind that it does break all the previous transactions, but it doesn't assure your privacy when you are using centralised exchanges. They might know that you own the address, but you will get fresh coins from the exchange.

Is it possible to exchange coins directly in TrustWallet or it's just a multicoin wallet?



This is interesting.  What if btc you received from a long time ago wasn't worth much back then and the person or exchange you buy it from had issues? 


The thing is if you withdraw it from a gambling site, well what if it was some person who deposited that btc in a gambling site and now uses that btc to pay you? 

Yeah, I don't know where the guy got them back then, and that's the reason why I want to "unlink" them from him. I don't want to come to a situation where I sell them P2P, a buyer has CEX address and they block the transaction.
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December 10, 2023, 10:18:26 AM
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Hi,

I bought part of BTC a long time ago, back when it was a pocket change, and I'm holding it ever since. I got it from a first guy I found locally on localbitcoins, and we did a face to face transaction. Back then were simpler times, the amount was small, and I planned to get familiar with Bitcoin and blockchain, so I never thought to ask him where he got them. Then, a year or two after that, I heard he was arrested, but I have no idea what for.

I sent it to a hardware wallet and never touched them except once a couple of years ago when I was curious how Wasabi wallet mixing (if that's how it was called) works, so I sent the part of it to see, and now it's there on a separate wallet. Fast-forward to this date. As the price raised significantly, I would like to cash out and take some profit, but I'm afraid they might be somehow flagged with the guy I bought them from. I saw a lot of posts online where people saying their funds were frozen on centralized exchanges for being linked to a mixer.

My question is, is there any way I can swap my existing funds in a way so they won't be linked to the previous guy anymore, which doesn't include any additional mixing? I know I could sell them locally, but most of the sellers are using accounts on centralized exchanges, so if those mentioned posts are true, they might freeze them and I will stay both without funds and money.

Not only centralised exchanges can change bitcoin for you, you can also do OTC (over the counter) deals  where trusted parties buy and sell BTC in large volumes, it all depends on how much you have and want to sell off.

This suggestion is in the event of your fear of being clamped down via platforms and all that.

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December 11, 2023, 10:14:57 AM
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You can try and use Bisq or Agoradesk.

https://bisq.network/
https://agoradesk.com/

Other decentralized exchanges: https://kycnot.me/

Before you use these services (given your circumstances) you are probably best to find a Bitcoin to Monero exchange on kycnot.me, then from there swapping to xmr, and using agoradesk's monero mirror, local xmr, or swapping back to btc and using agoradesk. Monero is a protocol built for privacy and in a situation like this, it might help you to find some additional privacy than just using the services with the coins you have. You aren't doing anything wrong by achieving some privacy here, using a privacy protocol for its intended purpose might save you troubles if any troubles are related to your coins. if LE already picked up the guy though, you mightn't even have anything to worry about. Good luck Smiley

I'm not sure did I understand this bolded part correctly. Are you saying to exchange BTC to XMR P2P and then back to BTC? I tried searching for monero mirror, but I didn't find anything useful.

If I'm not wrong, I believe that agoradesk have a monero mirror called Localmonero. I'm not saying anything btw, I'm just saying that given your circumstances, finding a bitcoin to monero exchange may help your cause. The only part p2p is involved is when you are looking for something to use to withdraw. Agoradesk - btc. Bisq - multicoin. Localxmr - xmr. I think there are other options as well, depends on geographic...though all of the aforementioned have a reputation within this community and have been widely used/endorsed in the past. They should be safe to use.
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December 11, 2023, 10:22:24 AM
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I remember installing and trying Bisq back when it was maybe even in beta, it barely had any orders. Is it possible to sell bitcoins for fiat or stablecoins there now? If it is, I'm not sure would I have to first exchange them for some altcoins, or it's enough to sell them straight away without needing to worry about linkage to the mentioned guy?

I recommend you to convert your Bitcoin into XMR on Bisp first and then you can convert that XMR to any other coin if you like. XMR is the high featured privacy coin out there and it's literally very hard to link anyone to XMR based transactions. First, you should swap your Bitcoin into XMR and I think you can then swap your XMR into fiat or any stable coin without any issue. I believe that you can direcrly sell those coins without worries but still it's much better to swap those into XMR before selling it for fiat or any stable coins.

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