I see many users talk about trading but does anyone here actually trading?

[Poker Player]

In my case I have never done intraday trading, but that is not the only type of trading. I have done medium term trading, buying to sell after weeks or months, and I was lucky with it. But in the end the simplest and least risky thing to do is to buy premium assets and invest for the long term. It is a very safe way to earn wealth without complication.

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^{You have been a member on this forum for a very long time and been holding Bitcoin during that time, does that make you a good trader?}
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Being a good trader has nothing to do with how long they have been on this forum or how long they have held Bitcoin in their wallet. Because being a good trader is based on his experience in the market and how good his trading performance is on the account he has.
If you ask me, have I become a good trader, I can't answer that I am a good trader because it is quite difficult to achieve that, but I am also not a bad trader, because the few times I trade I can get a profit from it, It's just that I don't really focus on it so I just do it as a side thing, but I understand about trading.

[2Pizza410000BTC]

^{You have been a member on this forum for a very long time and been holding Bitcoin during that time, does that make you a good trader?}
I see many threads about how hard trading is here, but i don't think it's so hard to that you want to make it look like. I wonder is anyone here actually trading or have tried to trading, or is it just to fill the sign-campaign requirement? I don't want to mention any names for many reasons I think everyone have good intentions but most of the posts and tips makes zero sense and when I read it I know that the person that posted that is not a good trader and probably never had trading at all himself/herself. ^{Legendary rank can be a newbie trader and a newbie rank can be a legendary trader.}
Anyway my point is: Isn't it mean to give tips and talk about things that maybe someone will read when you actually don't know what you talking about? Isn't it fraud?  

A very good description of Trading.

Trading is not hard to learn, but it is hard to make money with trading. I have over 3 years experience in trading now and I am still in loss than in profit. To make money, trading is hard. To learn, trading is not hard. People can refer to earning money from trading to be hard, which is not wrong but right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROQNfVc4BYI&t=5745s
Everyone should watch this from 14:25 when he speaks

What do you see here?

Those who can do trading can write about trading, if you don't trade you can't say anything about trading. More or less everyone who works with Bitcoin is experienced in trading. I worked on the signature campaign on the bitcoin forum and earned from there along with earning some from the out site all in all I took some dollars to the trading platform. Currently I am involved in trading but I am not much of a market analyst although I am not a good market analyst but still I am constantly profiting from the trading platform. That's why I am saying here that people who don't have trading knowledge can't give a good idea about trading and those who have minimal knowledge about trading have gained knowledge by trading.

[Dzwaafu11]

^{You have been a member on this forum for a very long time and been holding Bitcoin during that time, does that make you a good trader?}

Holding bitcoin is not the same thing as bitcoin trading; there’s a clear difference between both. Short-term bitcoin trading means that you will just put in some amount of bitcoin that you can afford to lose and continue managing the market when the price goes up and you, the trader, see that it will help you generate some profit. You sell.

Bitcoin holding is a very long-term investment that investors do after investing until the price of bitcoin goes up, then sell what they have invested. This is not the same thing as bitcoin trading, as you can see.

I see many threads about how hard trading is here, but i don't think it's so hard to that you want to make it look like. I wonder is anyone here actually trading or have tried to trading, or is it just to fill the sign-campaign requirement?

Serious people hype trading in negative terms, which in reality is not how it is. Many people keep on saying trading is hard, although nothing good is achieved in an easy way, but the way people are saying about trading is that it is hard, which is not how it is. The only thing in trading is how to generate profit, and I think that is what makes people say it is hard. Many people say that when doing business, the only thing they want us to do is make more money, and when the business doesn’t go the way they want, they will say it is hard. So OP understands that people are saying trading is hard, not because of the knowledge to trade but because of the difficulty of making a profit from trading. That is what makes them say that it is hard.

[|MINER|]

Trading is easy but getting the expected profit from trading is difficult.  There are many people who are trading at loss but have a very good understanding of trading.  Trading is very much dependent on skill so trading will be easy for them who have proper knowledge of trading. By applying the right intelligence in the right place, you can become a good trader.  There are many who have been trading for years but their profits are very limited and losses are high.  And because of this they are very frustrated. It is really sad that even after you are good at something, you are not getting the benefit you deserve.  But I would say that one should not measure the extent of trading knowledge by the amount of trading profit loss calculation.

[the rise]

I'm a real trader, it's just that I don't want to show off my portfolio. I think it just adds to my greed if I show off and then someone shows off more assets I just want to be better than that. Even though we know that crypto itself is where we have to invest with a full strategy to generate consistent profits, we don't want to get rich quickly here. If I look at it, it's very easy to talk about trading, but if it's put into practice it's not like it's said, this is why many people claim they can trade but when they try it they can't.

[Volimack]

As far as I know many traders think that trading is easy and greed works in them thinking that they will get quick profit but if they are not skilled in trading they do not understand that it is difficult to get profit. It is very important to learn market analysis and trading methods. But after placing the trade if the market goes a little negative I think that it is not right to trade from here. And then close that trade or profit trade with a small profit. The market will be up and down. This is the principle of market trading besides being efficient you have to monitor money management.

[Bushdark]

I'm a real trader, it's just that I don't want to show off my portfolio. I think it just adds to my greed if I show off and then someone shows off more assets I just want to be better than that. Even though we know that crypto itself is where we have to invest with a full strategy to generate consistent profits, we don't want to get rich quickly here. If I look at it, it's very easy to talk about trading, but if it's put into practice it's not like it's said, this is why many people claim they can trade but when they try it they can't.

I don't need to show if your portfolio because op think there are few that are not trader and always talking and advising people on how to trade. Yes this happens always because we all know that there are people that knows how to advise even when they don't or have never traded in the market before. We need to be prepared and give opinion on what we know and nit writing about things we don't even have a concrete understanding about. The truth will be open soon and many that claims and are not would be exposed.

[lombok]

I'm a real trader, it's just that I don't want to show off my portfolio. I think it just adds to my greed if I show off and then someone shows off more assets I just want to be better than that. Even though we know that crypto itself is where we have to invest with a full strategy to generate consistent profits, we don't want to get rich quickly here. If I look at it, it's very easy to talk about trading, but if it's put into practice it's not like it's said, this is why many people claim they can trade but when they try it they can't.

That's right, speaking is easy because we can take it from other people's experiences, reference books and even Google. However, if faced with the market and some $$ capital, we would be completely different. Mentally and emotionally will weigh heavily on your steps. What is in the market and what we know will be very different and maybe if we take a trade, instead of making a profit, we will actually lose.

[Pandu Geddon]

I'm a real trader, it's just that I don't want to show off my portfolio. I think it just adds to my greed if I show off and then someone shows off more assets I just want to be better than that. Even though we know that crypto itself is where we have to invest with a full strategy to generate consistent profits, we don't want to get rich quickly here. If I look at it, it's very easy to talk about trading, but if it's put into practice it's not like it's said, this is why many people claim they can trade but when they try it they can't.

That's right, speaking is easy because we can take it from other people's experiences, reference books and even Google. However, if faced with the market and some $$ capital, we would be completely different. Mentally and emotionally will weigh heavily on your steps. What is in the market and what we know will be very different and maybe if we take a trade, instead of making a profit, we will actually lose.

Isn't that when you face a market situation, that's also part of learning? All beginners initially feel a burden and are afraid of losing. but that's trading, where there are risks that must be taken and if you want to learn, then understand the risks too. So when you become more familiar with market conditions, you will not be too stressed by trading.
The more you hone your skills, the more confident you will feel in your analysis. regardless of whether the trading result is a profit or a loss. If you follow your plan, there may be a new lesson learned from every trade you make.

[lombok]

Isn't that when you face a market situation, that's also part of learning? All beginners initially feel a burden and are afraid of losing. but that's trading, where there are risks that must be taken and if you want to learn, then understand the risks too. So when you become more familiar with market conditions, you will not be too stressed by trading.
The more you hone your skills, the more confident you will feel in your analysis. regardless of whether the trading result is a profit or a loss. If you follow your plan, there may be a new lesson learned from every trade you make.

It's true, when we give up on the first try then it is a failure. However, if we can take lessons, continue to learn and improvise then that is the beginning of success. The point is self-control of emotions. Indeed, this sounds easy when said, but it will be very difficult to apply in real trading regarding discipline and our trading strategy path.

[alastantiger]

Trading is not hard to learn, but it is hard to make money with trading. I have over 3 years experience in trading now and I am still in loss than in profit. To make money, trading is hard. To learn, trading is not hard. People can refer to earning money from trading to be hard, which is not wrong but right.

With YouTube videos and a dedicated 3hours per day watching them, anyone can easily pick up on trading. Anyone can at that point contribute to discussions on trading and that is what we see that goes on here in the trading board. Just like the Pareto principle or any other of those principles only 20% of traders my actually be making money with real trading and not from the side hustles attached to trading. 80% of people who talk about trading here have the knowledge but don't make any money. Only 20% here make money from trading and it isn't often.

[Mpamaegbu]

I see many threads about how hard trading is here, but i don't think it's so hard to that you want to make it look like.

Yes, trading is hard for those who don't like putting in the works but have high dream of hitting it big. These ones with this type of mindset will always fail in trading as greed will  do them in. Those who enmesh themselves in acquiring the set skills for trading won't find it difficult. Trading and hodling have a thin wall apart. We can safely say that hodling is trading on a long term because at some point that person hodling will sell off to take profit.

I'm a trader, and a profitable one too.

[boyptc]

That's why I don't really talk about trading because I am done with it. I do some of it a bit when I think that I'll get some profits but usually, I'm just holding.

It's lesser effort and more profitable to me and this is what actually works for me. Whilst it's common already that most traders aren't really profitable.

That's no debate as many of us arent' really profitable traders.

[poodle63]

It's true, when we give up on the first try then it is a failure. However, if we can take lessons, continue to learn and improvise then that is the beginning of success. The point is self-control of emotions. Indeed, this sounds easy when said, but it will be very difficult to apply in real trading regarding discipline and our trading strategy path.

can't really do some learning and improvise if the market is so obscure in the first place, its market full of speculation I think only those that got the balls to just trade and always buys at low are the one that gonna be proffiting meanwhile the rest are getting fomo'd and lose money eventually.
thats i think just how trading works for many years right now, even TA isn't that much of a help either sometime its just good head off but the market could definitely have high chance of going astray from what supposed to be from the technical analysis.
I personally still consider trading to be heavily dependant on speculation, i do trade daily and still have no idea how the market behave i just go with the flow.
other than that, consider investing if somehow our capital that we use for trading are getting massive dump because choosing wrong coin.

[BabyBandit]

That's why I don't really talk about trading because I am done with it. I do some of it a bit when I think that I'll get some profits but usually, I'm just holding.

It's lesser effort and more profitable to me and this is what actually works for me. Whilst it's common already that most traders aren't really profitable.

That's no debate as many of us arent' really profitable traders.

Good and a honest answer and you also saying good things. Effort is less and most important you do what works for you. That is what I want to learn the people in the world, don't follow other paths.
If you haven't find it yet, then you don't know who you are. You said good, simple and easy with a short good message.

It's lesser effort and more profitable to me and this is what actually works for me.

👍💯

[Issa56]

^{You have been a member on this forum for a very long time and been holding Bitcoin during that time, does that make you a good trader?}

Some people have been holding bitcoin for a long time, and that doesn’t make them professional traders, some of them just know the basics of trading, some people prefer holding bitcoin to trading, some see trading as a risky activity, they don’t even have the time to waste on analysis before entering a trade, and some don’t have time to start learning how to trade. So you should know that not all holders are traders.

I see many threads about how hard trading is here, but i don't think it's so hard to that you want to make it look like.

I won’t say trading is so hard, and I won’t also say trading is easy, but we all know that trading is more difficult than holding, and trading is more risky than holding. If you are holding bitcoin, make sure you get an appropriate wallet to use, and make sure you learn about private key, how to back up your private key, and how to properly store your private key so that you won’t lose access to it or someone else won’t have access to it. I think those are the basic things you should know.

I wonder is anyone here actually trading or have tried to trading, or is it just to fill the sign-campaign requirement?

No campaign is asking anyone to talk about how difficult trading is, everybody are talking from there own personal experience, don’t think because most people are in gambling signature campaigns, so they are discouraging trading so that people will gamble.

^{Legendary rank can be a newbie trader and a newbie rank can be a legendary trader.}

Rank on the forum doesn’t determine if you are a professional trader or not, some people might be a good trader, and they won’t be active on the forum here, and some good traders don’t even know about the forum.

[boyptc]

That's why I don't really talk about trading because I am done with it. I do some of it a bit when I think that I'll get some profits but usually, I'm just holding.

It's lesser effort and more profitable to me and this is what actually works for me. Whilst it's common already that most traders aren't really profitable.

That's no debate as many of us arent' really profitable traders.

Good and a honest answer and you also saying good things. Effort is less and most important you do what works for you. That is what I want to learn the people in the world, don't follow other paths.
If you haven't find it yet, then you don't know who you are. You said good, simple and easy with a short good message.

Yes, we're in a very high volatile market and do what you can do and what works for you. A strategy can work for everybody but not for me and vice versa.

Thanks for appreciating that because that's the reality.

Strategies that works for each of us will eventually be suggested by the others who have tested and successfully done it. But it's not like we hear the same stories everyday.

[lombok]

It's true, when we give up on the first try then it is a failure. However, if we can take lessons, continue to learn and improvise then that is the beginning of success. The point is self-control of emotions. Indeed, this sounds easy when said, but it will be very difficult to apply in real trading regarding discipline and our trading strategy path.

can't really do some learning and improvise if the market is so obscure in the first place, its market full of speculation I think only those that got the balls to just trade and always buys at low are the one that gonna be proffiting meanwhile the rest are getting fomo'd and lose money eventually.
thats i think just how trading works for many years right now, even TA isn't that much of a help either sometime its just good head off but the market could definitely have high chance of going astray from what supposed to be from the technical analysis.
I personally still consider trading to be heavily dependant on speculation, i do trade daily and still have no idea how the market behave i just go with the flow.
other than that, consider investing if somehow our capital that we use for trading are getting massive dump because choosing wrong coin.

Trades actually don't have to be done every minute, hour or even every day. A lot of manipulation occurs in the market and this causes prices to go up and down/volatile, even though within a certain period of time the trend is still going according to plan. Better to wait for the right moment. Therefore, most people who make profits from trading have less interaction in the market. For example, holders will reap more profits than people who trade frequently. But there are some pro traders who are able to make big profits too.

[Hamphser]

It's true, when we give up on the first try then it is a failure. However, if we can take lessons, continue to learn and improvise then that is the beginning of success. The point is self-control of emotions. Indeed, this sounds easy when said, but it will be very difficult to apply in real trading regarding discipline and our trading strategy path.

can't really do some learning and improvise if the market is so obscure in the first place, its market full of speculation I think only those that got the balls to just trade and always buys at low are the one that gonna be proffiting meanwhile the rest are getting fomo'd and lose money eventually.
thats i think just how trading works for many years right now, even TA isn't that much of a help either sometime its just good head off but the market could definitely have high chance of going astray from what supposed to be from the technical analysis.
I personally still consider trading to be heavily dependant on speculation, i do trade daily and still have no idea how the market behave i just go with the flow.
other than that, consider investing if somehow our capital that we use for trading are getting massive dump because choosing wrong coin.

Trades actually don't have to be done every minute, hour or even every day. A lot of manipulation occurs in the market and this causes prices to go up and down/volatile, even though within a certain period of time the trend is still going according to plan. Better to wait for the right moment. Therefore, most people who make profits from trading have less interaction in the market. For example, holders will reap more profits than people who trade frequently. But there are some pro traders who are able to make big profits too.

We do know that there would be types of traders.

1 Short/Daytraders
2. Scalpers
3. Swing traders

It would really be just that depending on you on how you would really be gonna handling yourself when it comes to trading. Speaking about knowing if someone do make
trades then its none of our business if they would really be boasting about on being a trader or would really be just that simply be that quiet on the things
that they are dealing with. Its not really that always that good on telling everything on what you do and what you are involving with. There are really just those
people who cant really be able to make some issues and make some questions about on someones trading career or engagement.