Do you believe you can win on sports betting by analyzing a betting lines only?

[Slow death]

In my opinion, bookmakers analyze them based on the data that is available to them and place odds or market that they think is fair for both sides (customers and bookmaker) but customers must do their own analysis, There are many cases in which bookmakers, when Asian, African and American teams play, place high odds on both teams that will play because they think it will be a balanced game, but for people from those countries who know those teams very well, they know well, they are the favorite teams and weak teams and the strong and weak points of those teams and people bet and win

I see sports betting as a fight between the bookmaker and the bettor, in this fight the one who has the most information about the game wins, that's why when I place a bet I don't see the odds value or who will be the favorite, first analyze the performance of the two teams and I choose which one I want to bet on because I believe they will win, then I go to the betting site to see what the odds value is for the team I want to bet on and if I see very low odds I give up on the bet, this is to prevent me from taking decisions based on what the bookmaker also decided

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[Johnyz]

How about you? Do you share the same perspective or not?

The odds says it all but I still prefer to analyze on my own and stay focus on my strategy and that includes analyzing the team and the players too though sometimes if I’m too busy and want to place a bet, I just rely on the odds and most of the time I won. Betting can still be risky, don’t ever forget to analyze and focus on your strategy, we know betting can be more rewarding if you bet correctly.

[Sunderland]

When I say 'line,' I am referring to the spreads or handicap of a certain team in the game. Through my years of experience, I have noticed that putting effort into analyzing the team's statistics and other factors, such as news and rumors, does not significantly affect my chances of winning.

I got this belief now that bookmakers are already knowledgeable about these aspects, and they take them into consideration when establishing a betting line for a specific game.

How about you? Do you share the same perspective or not?

101%, usually I analysis the game after checking the odds not before.
The odds sometimes telling us what we dont know about the match. Sometimes I feel the odds maker already knew the results even before the match begins.

[Casdinyard]

In theory, most games that involve two entities duking it out for a win, should at least yield you a 50/50 probability of winning every game, which means that no matter how you analyze the hell out of your games, you literally wouldn't be able to do anything if the games are laid out with that kind of parity. Which might be what you're experiencing, as well as millions of sports gambler in here like me. In any case, this doesn't mean you should stop analyzing your games and altogether just hope and pray that you're on the right 50/50 side this time, half the fun of playing on sportsbets is chipping in your own insights on stuff, keep that even if it's just for entertainment's sake. Don't worry much about if it would win you the game or not.

[Oilacris]

When I say 'line,' I am referring to the spreads or handicap of a certain team in the game. Through my years of experience, I have noticed that putting effort into analyzing the team's statistics and other factors, such as news and rumors, does not significantly affect my chances of winning.

I got this belief now that bookmakers are already knowledgeable about these aspects, and they take them into consideration when establishing a betting line for a specific game.

How about you? Do you share the same perspective or not?

101%, usually I analysis the game after checking the odds not before.
The odds sometimes telling us what we dont know about the match. Sometimes I feel the odds maker already knew the results even before the match begins.

They are already long time in the business and if ever it is really just that feels that way then sure it is. They do already know on what are the things that puts them on advantage.
If it seems that they do really know on whats ahead then for sure they would really be always having the edge. In my case, i dont see for those news and other possible events
to be non relevant on which this is something that would really be so useful. It do really just happens that luck would really be always that relevant and always
be the main factor on which it would really be neither be a game to be a complete win or loss. This is gambling or betting, so its a matter of win or lose.

[topbitcoin]

How about you? Do you share the same perspective or not?

The odds says it all but I still prefer to analyze on my own and stay focus on my strategy and that includes analyzing the team and the players too though sometimes if I’m too busy and want to place a bet, I just rely on the odds and most of the time I won. Betting can still be risky, don’t ever forget to analyze and focus on your strategy, we know betting can be more rewarding if you bet correctly.

it's not an easy thing, right? Turning betting into an activity that can give us profits is not as easy as turning the palm of your hand. and even if we bet in the right way, it really cannot guarantee that every time we place a bet, we will get a win. Instead, we can only increase the possibility that we will win, and try to minimize the level of loss.

And indeed I also admit that there are some people who are quite good at placing bets and often in these bets they get quite big wins. But we need to know that to get big profits when placing bets, we also have to deposit large amounts of money. And are we really capable of losing large amounts of money? Because no matter how good we are at placing bets, there are still risks and losses.

[Lida93]

I got this belief now that bookmakers are already knowledgeable about these aspects, and they take them into consideration when establishing a betting line for a specific game.

How about you? Do you share the same perspective or not?

Gambling is a psychological battle which only the most intelligent that is many times fast ahead of you will always win . True, by good analytical skills you can make a win especially with sports bets but that being said, bookmakers have taken an advantage of the analytical and history of the game to play smart ahead of the gambler by deceiving us with data's they only want  us to see and believe.

It therefore means data analysis isn't 100%  sure but can serve as a lead way to making the correct bet options in your bet predictions while using your own intellect too in decoding what from what could be a likelihood away from what is not, and in addition to luck.

[rahmad2nd]

When I say 'line,' I am referring to the spreads or handicap of a certain team in the game. Through my years of experience, I have noticed that putting effort into analyzing the team's statistics and other factors, such as news and rumors, does not significantly affect my chances of winning.

I got this belief now that bookmakers are already knowledgeable about these aspects, and they take them into consideration when establishing a betting line for a specific game.

How about you? Do you share the same perspective or not?

To be honest, I don't know the mechanisms and ways in which betting companies design every option they present. However, because they are betting bookies, they will arrange it according to what they have adjusted. and I agree with one of the members who said, that the bookie will not know which team will win the match. where, they prioritize probability. and I completely agree with one of the opinions expressed by community members.

Referring to the first point you said, I will underline that in reality in gambling there is no such thing as significantly influencing the chances of winning. whatever it is, whether other gambling or sports or football. However, we really need the factors and variables that you mentioned, such as research, analysis, or anything else that we need to determine and decide on a match. and because of that, we can choose various options as you mentioned, for example handicap, Under/Over, 1×2, both teams to score and all other options.

And referring to my experience, balanced with understanding, experience, knowing the ins and outs of football. both patterns, systems, tactics, and all other factors, have a huge influence. but in any case, we leave the rest to the final result of the match. Well, if you are no longer sure, you have to dig deeper into the knowledge. Or, you can choose other bets besides sports.

[AmoreJaz]

How about you? Do you share the same perspective or not?

The odds says it all but I still prefer to analyze on my own and stay focus on my strategy and that includes analyzing the team and the players too though sometimes if I’m too busy and want to place a bet, I just rely on the odds and most of the time I won. Betting can still be risky, don’t ever forget to analyze and focus on your strategy, we know betting can be more rewarding if you bet correctly.

it's not an easy thing, right? Turning betting into an activity that can give us profits is not as easy as turning the palm of your hand. and even if we bet in the right way, it really cannot guarantee that every time we place a bet, we will get a win. Instead, we can only increase the possibility that we will win, and try to minimize the level of loss.

And indeed I also admit that there are some people who are quite good at placing bets and often in these bets they get quite big wins. But we need to know that to get big profits when placing bets, we also have to deposit large amounts of money. And are we really capable of losing large amounts of money? Because no matter how good we are at placing bets, there are still risks and losses.

that's why it is called gambling. though in sportsbetting, your chances are better if you are very familiar with the sports you are betting with. but let's take for example in NBA or basketball, a lot of bettors for sure are betting in other money lines like the over/under per quarter. and as you follow their game, you will likely have idea on where the game is heading to. hence, you can make a very good guess where they will be after each quarter. and that single match on this sports, you can already bet a lot. and would be very nice if you actually are a fan of that specific team as you have a good grasp of their capability inside the arena.

[Darker45]

I don't understand. Is this almost equal to analyzing the odds themselves? Handicaps or spreads, after all, are basically for the purpose of somehow making a balance in the odds, to make them a bit closer or as if opposing teams or players have equal chances of winning. So is it like analyzing your bet's chance to win based on the winning probabilities of the teams or players?

But I don't understand why you suddenly talked of stats and factors such as news and rumors. Stats, of course, are a main basis for bookmakers. Rumors, I don't think so, but news could certainly affect the odds as well since it could carry information pertaining to something that would affect the player or team's performance or game.

[ethereumhunter]

It therefore means data analysis isn't 100%  sure but can serve as a lead way to making the correct bet options in your bet predictions while using your own intellect too in decoding what from what could be a likelihood away from what is not, and in addition to luck.

Data analysis cannot be 100% accurate, but it can help people doing the analysis find the right team to bet on. They may need to learn more so they can improve their analytical skills and be even better. For this reason, those who frequently bet on sports must have good analytical skills so they can get accurate information, even if it could be more accurate because it will depend on the match. At least they can choose a team that has greater potential to win than the opposing team. By using correct analysis, they will get more information, especially if they can find sources that can provide more accurate information.

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In my own opinion that gambling is all about luck whether it is sports betting and whatever others games all kind of gambling at the end of the day depend on luck. But in sports batting I believe that if a person good at analysing on sports for he gamble then it can be possible that is winning probability is more rather than those gambler who didn't know good analysis. So I believe that a gambler if do a good analysis then his winning probability will be more higher.

[Wexnident]

When I say 'line,' I am referring to the spreads or handicap of a certain team in the game. Through my years of experience, I have noticed that putting effort into analyzing the team's statistics and other factors, such as news and rumors, does not significantly affect my chances of winning.

I got this belief now that bookmakers are already knowledgeable about these aspects, and they take them into consideration when establishing a betting line for a specific game.

How about you? Do you share the same perspective or not?

It's part of it I guess? It's definitely something bookmakers take into account when creating the odds since this forces an equal action between the two teams. It's also basically a figure of how strong a team is against the other really. This doesn't put statistics out of the picture though. It's still the basis of how people judge the strength of a team and I reckon bookmakers have different tools that they use to judge it from the current team setup, coach, past tournaments, age, etc.

If people were replaced by robots, much more accurate data can probably be obtained but since sports are played by humans, there's that factor of unexpectedness that guarantees that a match could go either way. You winning or losing is just part of the game imo after all, no matter what, it'd always be a 50/50 chance in the end.

[Z390]

How many people have this worked for so far? Many people who place bets on sports are also into the game very deeply, people around me can't do without football matches, this is like a cinema for them, but they still lose a lot of money, no amount of analysis can safe you from losing your money, it's impossible not to lose money in gambling, that's why you just have to accept that gambling is luck.

I am not encouraging anyone to start betting on sports if they don't know anything about the game, that's even worse, you need to know what you are betting your money on, a weak team is a weak team, if you don't know this and you blindly bet on such team you will lose your money, staying update is good but my point is losing in gambling is inevitable.

Become a pro fan of all football club in this world, know how is weak and who is strong, you will still lose your money, because anything is possible in this life, and someone can't always be the winner, that's why you will see some fighters in UFC win today and lose tomorrow.

[arwin100]

When I say 'line,' I am referring to the spreads or handicap of a certain team in the game. Through my years of experience, I have noticed that putting effort into analyzing the team's statistics and other factors, such as news and rumors, does not significantly affect my chances of winning.

I got this belief now that bookmakers are already knowledgeable about these aspects, and they take them into consideration when establishing a betting line for a specific game.

How about you? Do you share the same perspective or not?

Each of us have our own way on how we analyze the situation especially upon researching the statistics of the teams we are trying to place our bet and if you think your method is working for you then its truly fine since at the end of the day you satisfied yourself with the method you think successful for you. But for me or some people here we always check the team statistics,news and rumors what you called also the other factor that can truly affect the team play since this give us higher chance to win especially if we are keen to the details on each team.

But for sure nothing is accurate here since sometimes even if we think how good the odds or chance for sure every result that might came will be different since there are time that underdog team defeat those stronger teams that's why expect the unexpected thing to happen on our bets placed.

[mindrust]

When I say 'line,' I am referring to the spreads or handicap of a certain team in the game. Through my years of experience, I have noticed that putting effort into analyzing the team's statistics and other factors, such as news and rumors, does not significantly affect my chances of winning.

I got this belief now that bookmakers are already knowledgeable about these aspects, and they take them into consideration when establishing a betting line for a specific game.

How about you? Do you share the same perspective or not?

You are just one man, you are betting against the gambling industry which employs thousands of men making these calculations, using AI, nearly unlimited computing power. Of course your pen and paper calculations won't work against them. $700 billion industry we are talking about here. (according to google) If everybody was able to beat them like that then this industry wouldn't exist don't you agree?

If you want to win in the long term just get a job or start your own business and sell your services/products or whatever you have to offer.

[stadus]

If you want to win in the long term just get a job or start your own business and sell your services/products or whatever you have to offer.

LOL! So you are implying that it's not possible to win in sports betting consistently?

"Starting a business, selling services/products or whatever you have to offer" as what you have stated does not relate to gambling at all.

[mindrust]

If you want to win in the long term just get a job or start your own business and sell your services/products or whatever you have to offer.

LOL! So you are implying that it's not possible to win in sports betting consistently?

"Starting a business, selling services/products or whatever you have to offer" as what you have stated does not relate to gambling at all.

You can win in sports betting consistently if you use the strategies which are banned by the casinos. (EV betting and arbitrage betting) These strategies will indeed make you money if you use them properly. However, they are banned for a reason. The reason is, they make you win. If you are going to win all the time, how the fuck the casinos can make money? One of two has to lose money so the other can make it.

Long story short, If you make money from gambling in the long run, you will be violating the ToS of the casino. The ToS basically says, the player cannot make money for a long time. It is the casinos duty to make money. They are making the money by taking it from you.

If you stop using these strategies I mentioned, then you will have to depend on your luck but we already know that it won’t work because of mathematics.

The casinos are not in the money losing business. The players are.

If you want to make money, start a business.

[stadus]

If you want to win in the long term just get a job or start your own business and sell your services/products or whatever you have to offer.

LOL! So you are implying that it's not possible to win in sports betting consistently?

"Starting a business, selling services/products or whatever you have to offer" as what you have stated does not relate to gambling at all.

You can win in sports betting consistently if you use the strategies which are banned by the casinos. (EV betting and arbitrage betting) These strategies will indeed make you money if you use them properly. However, they are banned for a reason. The reason is, they make you win. If you are going to win all the time, how the fuck the casinos can make money? One of two has to lose money so the other can make it.

Long story short, If you make money from gambling in the long run, you will be violating the ToS of the casino. The ToS basically says, the player cannot make money for a long time. It is the casinos duty to make money. They are making the money by taking it from you.

If you stop using these strategies I mentioned, then you will have to depend on your luck but we already know that it won’t work because of mathematics.

I just want to be clear here because the title of the thread is all about sports betting.

Are you referring to sports betting?

By the way, Arbitrage betting isn't generally ban, it's only ban if you are betting on the same gambling site, but they can't forfeit or freeze your winning since it's not illegal. Shopping on different sites is probably okay as they would not be able to catch you since you are in the crypto space and we can use aliases when making an sports betting account that doesn't require a KYC. 

[blockman]

It helps but still just like any analysis, it does not give you guarantee to win at all. It is actually hard to bet with sportsbetting. Like I mean that you can easily bet because you either pick 1 or 2 but determining the winner is tricky because you do not hold the game. Your money's destiny depends on the players and teams that you are betting. For some reasons that you have dealt with some analysis and it didn't resulted to a good one. You are not a bad analyzer but it is that in sportsbetting is hard to win because even games that has high or low odds, they are still unpredictable to be honest.