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March 18, 2024, 05:50:57 PM
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At this moment you should not use any money in trading, because trading is very risky. You can never make money from training if you don't fully understand trading, if you make some money you can lose more than that if you don't have knowledge about trading. You have to work hard in trading. You have to be perfectly prepared. Because all the money is lost because of a small mistake in trading. So prepare yourself in such a way that there is no error while trading. then you can make money from trading.
Behind the risks involved in trading, of course there will be profits when we can understand the risks we face in trading and it would be better to postpone trading when we don't understand it well and first study it well so we can trade well. get benefits from this and when we just understand trading then we have to try it with little capital and have to make decisions with correct analysis based on the knowledge we have and if we still experience failure we have to be able to improve and return to trading to be able to have profit on the trade.
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March 19, 2024, 09:33:11 PM
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Maybe in your case scenario, you should never stop since you have started learning trading. Then try to start with a small amount of trading first. Then the timeframe that you should use first is the 1 hour or 4 hour timeframe. Because if it's low there, it will be a bit difficult.

Or it's also possible that while you're just learning trading first, you only have to do a 1-day timeframe to continue your exploration of learning about trading. Don't give up; just continue to learn until you learn something new about it, and once you have it, then continue to learn more.
there are no fixed timeframe to learn trading because if someone started trading he always need to keep eyes to get update about which coins,
i don't know about other traders, personally if when i am trading i am continuously checking the price after a while.
yes, beginners should start with low capital.
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March 19, 2024, 09:42:32 PM
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Maybe in your case scenario, you should never stop since you have started learning trading. Then try to start with a small amount of trading first. Then the timeframe that you should use first is the 1 hour or 4 hour timeframe. Because if it's low there, it will be a bit difficult.

Or it's also possible that while you're just learning trading first, you only have to do a 1-day timeframe to continue your exploration of learning about trading. Don't give up; just continue to learn until you learn something new about it, and once you have it, then continue to learn more.
there are no fixed timeframe to learn trading because if someone started trading he always need to keep eyes to get update about which coins,
i don't know about other traders, personally if when i am trading i am continuously checking the price after a while.
yes, beginners should start with low capital.
And this is what you should really be having in mind is that you shouldnt really be rushing up yourself on learning trading specially when you are still a noob on which we know that everything would really takes time
and it isnt something that you could really be able to rush up because once you do have that kind of mindset then you would really be rushing up things to deal with and ended up for you to commit tons of mistakes
due to that kind of wrong belief in mind. There's no way that you could really be able to have that fast pace learning because there's so much that needs up to learn into this market on which this is something
that you should bare up into your mind.

When you are still that a noob or new into this industry then it would really be normal on having that kind of approach on which you would really be versatile and you would really be needing on
having that kind of moderation from your funding until into your emotions on which these factors would really be needed up for you to consider or look out.

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March 19, 2024, 09:53:39 PM
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Behind the risks involved in trading, of course there will be profits when we can understand the risks we face in trading and it would be better to postpone trading when we don't understand it well and first study it well so we can trade well. get benefits from this and when we just understand trading then we have to try it with little capital and have to make decisions with correct analysis based on the knowledge we have and if we still experience failure we have to be able to improve and return to trading to be able to have profit on the trade.
In trading, high risk will earn high return and try with low risk as gold investment will get low return or profitable, so in trading beside need to prepare knowledge need strong mentality how to avoid loss or panic moment when market suddenly drop. Use free money in trading with your spending will be loss and not good ideas when putting emergency fund or saving money due with trading can't promising profitable always and avoid when have to make stop loss if required.
Not all analyze will be accurate, we know how whales make market drop drastically and many time our prediction not accurate yet have to be long term holder or make cut loss. If mentality already I don't think not problem how to be calm when market crashing and many people panic for selling in lower price.

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March 19, 2024, 11:04:52 PM
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Maybe in your case scenario, you should never stop since you have started learning trading. Then try to start with a small amount of trading first. Then the timeframe that you should use first is the 1 hour or 4 hour timeframe. Because if it's low there, it will be a bit difficult.

Or it's also possible that while you're just learning trading first, you only have to do a 1-day timeframe to continue your exploration of learning about trading. Don't give up; just continue to learn until you learn something new about it, and once you have it, then continue to learn more.
there are no fixed timeframe to learn trading because if someone started trading he always need to keep eyes to get update about which coins,
i don't know about other traders, personally if when i am trading i am continuously checking the price after a while.
yes, beginners should start with low capital.
checking price continously is good for trader that are short term as to not miss the opportunity but overall its gonna be kinda detrimental for long term since its mentally exhausting, i think using price alarm to notify us when the price is rising gonna be more effective approach for trading that is exactly what im doing right now and never miss a single opportunity rather than trying to get too fixated onto the CMC apps and watch the prices.
but its more important to get updated about the upcoming events of the coin as well if we really want to trade, i mean, we should know before hand when there is an even like vesting unlock that could potentially affect the market price as a short term trader even that is also important thing to know since that could affects our trades even more urgent for us that trades future since price shake could make us loss our high leveraged trade and could make us lose our much loved money so there's that.
for newbie though just try to get how the market work, that I think is already sufficient enough.

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March 20, 2024, 03:55:40 PM
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When using a demo trade, why not trick your mind that you are like trading for real? It can be hard at first but practice makes perfect as the quote says. If not, you can also practice on the real trading arena, but just use only minimal amounts and you can stick on this amount, even when you are now ready on the real deal because you said, you don't want to try hard, however when we are practicing and we want to be great, we are actually trying hard even on that point. What is wrong with that anyway? Nothing, but that was in fact good to know, than the other.

The remaining money in your account was already there even before, so I'm sure that you already have a spare money outside that you can use once you lose them. Courage is another thing you need here apart from hard work.

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March 26, 2024, 11:28:29 AM
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Trading can be difficult at first, and losing $90 on a $120 account hurts (I've been there!). However, returning with a $20 profit shows that you're improving! It's excellent that you're using so many resources; knowledge is essential. Consider stopping, going over your trading strategy, and focusing on managing risks. Just remember that you can practise trading on demo accounts or take a break without having to worry about using real money.
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March 26, 2024, 01:24:00 PM
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Trading can be difficult at first, and losing $90 on a $120 account hurts (I've been there!). However, returning with a $20 profit shows that you're improving! It's excellent that you're using so many resources; knowledge is essential. Consider stopping, going over your trading strategy, and focusing on managing risks. Just remember that you can practise trading on demo accounts or take a break without having to worry about using real money.
The practice option on a demo account is usually used more often by trading beginners who still don't dare to use money directly into the market. And this is very suitable because it can have a very good effect on everyone's mentality and courage when they really want to try it using real money. Apart from that, I think you yourself also have experience in this matter because you have experienced losing a little money when trading, but if you are not discouraged from returning it at another time, you are really quite an extraordinary person in this matter.

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March 26, 2024, 02:19:31 PM
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When using a demo trade, why not trick your mind that you are like trading for real? It can be hard at first but practice makes perfect as the quote says. If not, you can also practice on the real trading arena, but just use only minimal amounts and you can stick on this amount, even when you are now ready on the real deal because you said, you don't want to try hard, however when we are practicing and we want to be great, we are actually trying hard even on that point. What is wrong with that anyway? Nothing, but that was in fact good to know, than the other.

The remaining money in your account was already there even before, so I'm sure that you already have a spare money outside that you can use once you lose them. Courage is another thing you need here apart from hard work.
I think leaderboards help with that a bit. Because people like to be high in leaderboards, so maybe the fact that you are not using your real money could still be on your mind while trading, but if there is a leaderboard then you may want to be first, and if there is a special reward for it then it is even better.

That way there is actually a tangible thing that you need to be serious about, which is the results of the leaderboard and you can be trading for real to get that place. I know a place that does monthly leaderboard thing, gives people 100k first of each month, and whoever ends up with the most money at the end of the month gets a "trophy" at their account. Many people take it very seriously to win that award, I think that may help.

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March 26, 2024, 03:20:32 PM
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Well, what do you expect from just trading? You expect to make thousands of dollars without any losses? Yes it can happen, but it's very rare. After all, that's what trading is like. Sometimes you get bored, and sometimes you count your losses. However, when you keep trying, maybe you will find the right way and strategy for you to use. No matter how much you listen to other people's opinions, the thing that determines profits or losses in the trading you do is your decision. Well, if you still want to try, then keep learning. Nothing is easy to achieve success, especially in trading.


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March 26, 2024, 04:09:04 PM
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You really need to have a percentage of the source income that you have; it's difficult if you don't even have a percentage of how much you will deduct from your income. Just like what you did,
 the amount that will be deducted from your balance is really big.

It is really necessary to have financial management knowledge to have control over cryptocurrency trading activity. And remember, newbies must learn first about in the basic study for this
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March 26, 2024, 10:02:19 PM
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As a newbie that wants to participate in trading you need some guidelines to follow and to make things easy you should be around those who have been there before like have experience, they know the in and out of the market like the back of their fingers. As someone who's new there would be a lot of mistakes and I'd say you as a newbie you're doing it for fun and you'll have no gain, just playing around (that's if you're doing it alone).
Setting a target to start with, a strategy that's if you must have learnt one or two from someone who's familiar with the market, like a mentor, if you're going alone believe me you're heading into a losing train.

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Well, what do you expect from just trading? You expect to make thousands of dollars without any losses? Yes it can happen, but it's very rare. After all, that's what trading is like. Sometimes you get bored, and sometimes you count your losses. However, when you keep trying, maybe you will find the right way and strategy for you to use. No matter how much you listen to other people's opinions, the thing that determines profits or losses in the trading you do is your decision. Well, if you still want to try, then keep learning. Nothing is easy to achieve success, especially in trading.
Even the big traders do make loses in trading so we should not see them like holy experts that donts do mistakes.
It is just that, they don't show us all their results because that is why we think they are very good without errors. We need to keep trying and failing to get to the height we intend to get. Everyone has there own story even the best trader in the world.
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Well, what do you expect from just trading? You expect to make thousands of dollars without any losses? Yes it can happen, but it's very rare. After all, that's what trading is like. Sometimes you get bored, and sometimes you count your losses. However, when you keep trying, maybe you will find the right way and strategy for you to use. No matter how much you listen to other people's opinions, the thing that determines profits or losses in the trading you do is your decision.
I wouldn't say that it's rare because it is impossible for someone to make thousands of dollars without even losing for their very first try.

Well, if you still want to try, then keep learning. Nothing is easy to achieve success, especially in trading.
I agree, nothing is easy and one has to learn and have to go through with what he wants to achieve with trading. One tip for newbies, don't be hasty.


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Well, what do you expect from just trading? You expect to make thousands of dollars without any losses? Yes it can happen, but it's very rare. After all, that's what trading is like. Sometimes you get bored, and sometimes you count your losses. However, when you keep trying, maybe you will find the right way and strategy for you to use. No matter how much you listen to other people's opinions, the thing that determines profits or losses in the trading you do is your decision. Well, if you still want to try, then keep learning. Nothing is easy to achieve success, especially in trading.

Overall everyone expects profits in the world of trading and indeed that is the purpose of our involvement in this field, but what we must know and understand is that trading is not a quick way to make you rich but rather a profession that can help your financial situation get better slowly and but if you already have enough flying hours in the sense that you are experienced enough then you can get wealth in the world of trading but still you need time which may be long enough to first go through the process.

The problem is that there are some people who are too focused on profit opportunities but they are not willing to go through all the processes that exist in the world of trading which makes them act carelessly and only rely on hope and feelings and I say that if you trade by relying only on feelings then it is tantamount to gambling that refers to luck. As you said above that when someone continues to try with strong intentions and determination in his learning period, it is not impossible that one day you can become one of the successful traders when you have managed to find a fairly accurate strategy from the results of the learning you have done and the process you have passed, it is true that trading is not easy because the possibility of risk is always there, therefore trading requires qualified knowledge and experience, you will be able to get it when you are able to be patient and have strong determination and sincerity during the learning stage.

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Lack with mentality when losing around $45 is not ready yet what faced by OP, I don't know how possibility with his mentality condition in the future when trading huge amount and loss more than $100 until $1000.
Before make trading as passive or side income better defend with your mentality in trading, not promising profit every time trade and we know risk when trading in bitcoin or altcoin but how to make its keep not annoying for our self.

Controlling money management and always use free money for trading, I think if get risk later with coin price drop drastically is not matter how much losses because have ready with mentality when position in trading got losses.

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Even the big traders do make loses in trading so we should not see them like holy experts that donts do mistakes.
It is just that, they don't show us all their results because that is why we think they are very good without errors. We need to keep trying and failing to get to the height we intend to get. Everyone has there own story even the best trader in the world.
We should be prepared to keep lewenin6ni matter how difficult it could be, since this is the only way we could stand tall.

It could be that they're hiding the errors so they can call signals to newbies that are looking for signal groups and don't want to start learning how to trade on their own. Newbies have to start learning how to interpret trading charts on their own and not depending on random interpretation from online traders or signal groups. Newbie need to learn how to trade without depending on others because they're not helping you when they're sending you signals or chart interpret. Trading need experience and you can get better experience when you do things by yourself and stop depending on others for them to guide you. Newbies shouldn't start trading from trading futures but they should start from spot trading and build their experience to enter future if they have interest in trading through futures.

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demo trading does not bring such emotions

This is the main problem, I think.

You are letting your emotions take over control. That ends badly every time. Follow a strategy and do not stray on your path...

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demo trading does not bring such emotions

This is the main problem, I think.

You are letting your emotions take over control. That ends badly every time. Follow a strategy and do not stray on your path...
Having demo trading cannot guarantee real profits when we are already trading in live trading account. Emotions are not emphasized during demo trading, so we will be working for that while we trade using our real live account. While emotions can be underrated, but we all know emotions are the best enemy in trading. If you fail to control your emotions, you will never achieve your goal profits in your trades.

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I'm also beginner in trading. I trade since this summer and I lost about $90 on $120 account. Recently I make $20 on last $34.
Throughout my journey in trading, I read Jack Schwager's book, watched many educational videos on YouTube, read many articles on the educational sections of CEX exchanges, and also talked with many traders. It seems to me that I understand enough about technical analysis, trading systems and trader psychology. But I'm at a dead end and don't know what to do next. Other traders advised me to just trade, but I think that over time I will lose my remaining $45, and demo trading does not bring such emotions and I don’t want to try hard when trading it

If I had to go back to the beginning again, I would solely focus on candlestick patterns and charting/indicators. From there, remember the patterns, and keep reminding yourself of what those patterns are and what they mean. After you understand the major patterns without needing to look them up, niche down on your indicators. There is nothing worse than seeing a new trader have 80% of their screen as indicators; you'll get conflicts if you do this. For example, I only use Fib-extensions, EMAs, and RSI. Mix that with candlestick patterns and general TA, and I'm good to go. 

Never demo trade; imo you learn more trading with $10-$50 with the purpose of learning, not making mass gains. I personally did this when I started and was making 5–20 cents per trade, but the amount didn't matter at the start; you just wanted to learn without losing a house worth of money. 

Don't get sucked into the psychological aspect of trading; this will be shoved down your throat wherever you decide to learn, but the reality is that the trader mindset comes with experience. You aren't a psychopath, so unfortunately you have emotions (most of us do), but the excitement of the markets and winning trades eventually loses its magic, and it becomes everyday life once you start maintaining a liveable and profitable trading career, and as a result, you have the """no emotion""" mindset. Like anything that is second nature.
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