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December 11, 2023, 09:01:02 AM
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If someone is a problem gambler and has repeatedly relapsed to problematic behavior related to gambling, I have come to the conclusion that it's best to quit cold turkey.

With other things it can sometimes be recommended that the addict slowly winds down their consumption of the addictive activity or substance, but that doesn't sound very realistic with gambling, does it?

Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?

I have to Google this cold turkey word as I seldom encounter this word so here it is
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"Cold turkey" refers to the abrupt cessation of a substance dependence and the resulting unpleasant experience, as opposed to gradually easing the process through reduction over time or by using replacement medication.
It applies to substance abuse, but you did apply it to gambling and I guess because there's a similarity between the two it depends on the gambler where he is comfortable he can do cold turkey or quit doing cold turkey as long as it will lead to curing his addiction, each gambler differs from one another and they have a pace that they want to follow where they are comfortable so both ways are good and desirable and can be implemented

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December 11, 2023, 09:01:54 AM
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People end up taking their lives after being so addicted to gambling, they can't stop and they can't walk away, the thing with gambling is no matter how much you win it will never be enough, that's why I always appreciate my effort of walking right away like I steal from the casino after I win some money, they will try to take it all back in fold.

For someone who was destined to have only a 100 thousand dollars all their live won't even know, and they will keep chasing the million dollar bag, imagine someone like this getting involved with gambling? They will believe that winning a million is more than enough and it's possible, the sad truth is they will never have it and they will waste their years away.

You need to consider yourself luck if you are not addicted to something, process addiction are so much harder to beat in so many ways, especially gambling and sex, you won't just quit easily, only those who haven't process it for too long find their way back easily.

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December 11, 2023, 09:26:35 AM
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It seems simple, right? However, gambling addiction is complex and entrenched in behavior and psychology. Consider triggers: tension, quick money, thrill. Can these be turned off instantly? As with shutting off a high-pressure hose tap, backflow is likely. Why not try progressive withdrawal, especially when customized to individual circumstances? Considerations of mistakes and group conversations are crucial. But aren't we ignoring psychology? The reward system in the brain is linked to gambling cues. Shouldn't reconfiguring this system involve more than merely stopping?

Talking to organizations and professionals is critical. Isn't rehabilitation unique to each person? Some may benefit from gradually substituting gambling with healthy hobbies to rebalance their incentive system. Could a cold turkey strategy be too startling for some, increasing the risk of relapse? The variability of human psyche must be considered. Isn't it simplistic to assume a one-size-fits-all addiction solution?

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December 11, 2023, 10:33:33 AM
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It would probably be the same as a heavy smoker who is advised to stop by reducing it slowly and experts say that will be difficult to do because he will still continue smoking and only reduce it occasionally.
It is impossible for a gambler who is addicted to stop immediately before he can go through treatment with a therapist because gambling has already taken over his mind, even though we read a gambler who reduces his gambling activities, of course, he is not already in the addiction stage, maybe he is an active gambler, but because he is not an addict, he still can control their thoughts when they have gone too far in gambling so can stop immediately.

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December 11, 2023, 12:48:46 PM
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It ignores addiction recovery individuality. Think about Emma, a problem gambler. She goes cold turkey, but each relapse makes her feel worse. What if Emma takes a systematic, gradual approach? Reducing frequency and stakes while seeking therapy and support? Yes, abrupt cessation works, but isnt everyone's journey different? Assuming one size fits all is the problem. Gradual reduction under professional supervision may help individuals recover more sustainably by helping them understand and regulate their impulses. Cold turkey may seem like the only option, but human behavior is complex. A personalized strategy that combines professional support, personal insight, and compassion for the obstacles faced by the individual is optimal.

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December 11, 2023, 02:20:37 PM
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Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?
As long as he keeps realizing that he wants to change and want to quit gambling he will slowly improve and there will come a time when he will decide to ask for help from the professionals, this is the first step before they finally realize that they needed a big step to change, slowly thinking to change is the start of realization that he will have to decide in the future that he wants to change and it will eventually if he keeps holding on to that thought.

It's hard to take gambling from a gambler who has no realization yet and realization will not just come suddenly it is a slow process, when they lose a big amount the realization will come that some change is needed and if they keep losing the realization will become huge and snowball and that's where he will ask for help and will improve his situation, healing, and cure is always a slow process and it's effective doing this way.


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December 11, 2023, 02:25:57 PM
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Yes, I agree with @OP, who said that stopping for a moment, reflecting on our mistakes or sharing them with others to find solutions to the problems we face can reduce the burden we feel in gambling. It can also help us to reduce our gambling activities, which may still be gambling very often so that by taking a break, we can think about how we can continue gambling but not experience any problems. We can still do other things well. But it will not be easy for a problem gambler to stop, even if it is slowly because he needs to realize that he has gone too far in gambling. If he can realize his mistake, he can start consulting with other people to find a solution. But if not, he will not be able to reduce his gambling addiction, and it could even become worse than before.
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December 11, 2023, 05:51:28 PM
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The first step to starting to make the addicted person start to forget the addiction is to completely distance them from the thing that is causing their addiction, in the specific case about gambling, and it is necessary to know the person addicted to gambling if she keeps playing in physical casinos or if she keeps playing in online casinos, if he says that he keeps playing in the physical casino then it will be necessary for his relatives to go to that physical casino and report that he is addicted and that the casino should ban him from that casino casino, if a person addicted to gambling says that he plays at an online casino, then the relatives of that addict must send emails to all casinos reporting that their relative is a person addicted to gambling so as not to allow him to create an account at any casino

Normally this type of attitude is taken accompanied by a statement from the doctor and the court, which is why it is necessary for people to always take their addicted relatives to the hospital and if they refuse to go to the hospital then the relatives must file a complaint with the police so that the case can be resolved. arrives in court and the judge orders them to hospitalize the addict in a place isolated from people, without access to the internet, without access to a telephone, without access to a computer and without access to money and documents for a period that the doctor determines, only then will a person gambling addict will be able to cure herself

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December 11, 2023, 07:04:30 PM
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I agree with you OP, it's better to cut yourself off, just like you do with an abusive boyfriend or girlfriend. You don't slowly wind down the relationship but leave it all behind one day.
Addictive substances are easiest to drop with a substitute, like you do with nicotine tablets, or weaker drugs to put off strong ones because if you don't do it you're going to be unable to function, your body will shut down, you'll be shaking, vomiting... Gamblers don't get these side effects so their problem is mainly in their heads. It's not the body that's addicted but the mind.

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December 11, 2023, 07:18:14 PM
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Yes, I agree with @OP, who said that stopping for a moment, reflecting on our mistakes or sharing them with others to find solutions to the problems we face can reduce the burden we feel in gambling. It can also help us to reduce our gambling activities, which may still be gambling very often so that by taking a break, we can think about how we can continue gambling but not experience any problems. We can still do other things well. But it will not be easy for a problem gambler to stop, even if it is slowly because he needs to realize that he has gone too far in gambling. If he can realize his mistake, he can start consulting with other people to find a solution. But if not, he will not be able to reduce his gambling addiction, and it could even become worse than before.
One reason for gambling addicts to stop for a moment after they realize they are losing and they don't have income for daily needs, apart from that I don't think they will realize to limit their gambling activities, so we have to act actively to warn friends who are already addicted to gambling to limit the use of funds in betting so that they will stop gambling once they lose their limited funds. I always remind my friends to get out of the gambling addiction zone even though they don't listen at the moment but they will realize that my warning will be useful for them one day.

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December 11, 2023, 07:24:59 PM
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If someone is a problem gambler and has repeatedly relapsed to problematic behavior related to gambling, I have come to the conclusion that it's best to quit cold turkey.

With other things it can sometimes be recommended that the addict slowly winds down their consumption of the addictive activity or substance, but that doesn't sound very realistic with gambling, does it?

Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?
What makes it difficult for people to get away from gambling is that in their minds they always have thoughts of being able to recover the losses they experienced previously. This also happens in my family who really like gambling because they have lost a lot of money. So you always gamble in the hope of recovering previous losses.

But now after being given advice, slowly he can control himself and no longer becomes addicted. From this I conclude that when we are addicted we cannot stop gambling completely. We can only do it slowly. This also applies to cigarette addicts. Normally they can stop slowly.
But if they quit to an extreme level, they experience health problems that require them to stop smoking completely. Likewise with gambling they can stop completely if they are completely bankrupt and there is nothing left to sell.

Maybe this is advice for those who are addicted to gambling. divert your habits and thoughts to look for new hobbies, and socialize with friends and useful activities.

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December 11, 2023, 08:30:56 PM
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It would probably be the same as a heavy smoker who is advised to stop by reducing it slowly and experts say that will be difficult to do because he will still continue smoking and only reduce it occasionally.
It is impossible for a gambler who is addicted to stop immediately before he can go through treatment with a therapist because gambling has already taken over his mind, even though we read a gambler who reduces his gambling activities, of course, he is not already in the addiction stage, maybe he is an active gambler, but because he is not an addict, he still can control their thoughts when they have gone too far in gambling so can stop immediately.
That's true because gambling addiction is something that eats the spirit and willpower of any sane person and it can take time before anything will actually be seen as normal for this addict. Addiction is really serious case and it needs to be handled with care and serious therapy need to be done before anything can said about a character change in that person and these things can still go wrongly because once the person is said to be cured the person can still flip and go back to his old if proper is not carried out.

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December 11, 2023, 08:45:40 PM
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Yes, I agree with @OP, who said that stopping for a moment, reflecting on our mistakes or sharing them with others to find solutions to the problems we face can reduce the burden we feel in gambling. It can also help us to reduce our gambling activities, which may still be gambling very often so that by taking a break, we can think about how we can continue gambling but not experience any problems. We can still do other things well. But it will not be easy for a problem gambler to stop, even if it is slowly because he needs to realize that he has gone too far in gambling. If he can realize his mistake, he can start consulting with other people to find a solution. But if not, he will not be able to reduce his gambling addiction, and it could even become worse than before.
One reason for gambling addicts to stop for a moment after they realize they are losing and they don't have income for daily needs, apart from that I don't think they will realize to limit their gambling activities, so we have to act actively to warn friends who are already addicted to gambling to limit the use of funds in betting so that they will stop gambling once they lose their limited funds. I always remind my friends to get out of the gambling addiction zone even though they don't listen at the moment but they will realize that my warning will be useful for them one day.
These addictions are very serious and therefore the fight against them is not easy. Each player has his own path and only he makes the final decision to limit himself in the game. If a player does this abruptly, then after some time, it could be months or even years, he may break down because something went wrong in his life, this could be any little thing. A problem at work, or a difficult relationship with a girl. After this, the player may begin to play even more than before, so you should always remember this and control yourself.

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December 11, 2023, 08:55:33 PM
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If someone is a problem gambler and has repeatedly relapsed to problematic behavior related to gambling, I have come to the conclusion that it's best to quit cold turkey.

With other things it can sometimes be recommended that the addict slowly winds down their consumption of the addictive activity or substance, but that doesn't sound very realistic with gambling, does it?

Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?

A VERY good and not an easy question.
I've heard different opinions about the best way to recover from addiction.
Some say it’s better right away, others say you need to gradually reduce your consumption. My personal opinion is that you need to immediately refuse and isolate the person from this place (district, city, country sometimes) in order to reduce the likelihood of relapse. This is a complex topic and not easy to discuss here. I'm talking about drugs. I have experience in this area. I help people who WANT to get rid of it THEMSELVES. I don’t know about gambling, but I can hardly imagine a person gradually giving it up. Most likely this should be done once and for all

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December 11, 2023, 09:01:22 PM
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To be honest, I don't have the right and correct answer. but it seems, like what you said. Gambling addiction is different from addiction to illegal substances, which requires a period of time to recover. that too, with a therapy scenario. In the case of gambling, there is actually a mechanism for healing treatment for addiction sufferers, just like other types of addicts. The difference is, the tricks used are different. and I can't say for sure, because I'm not an expert in this field to provide an opinion or assumption or even a solution. the only thing that makes a gambler quit completely is when he is no longer able to carry out gambling sessions. in other words, someone has become homeless and doesn't have a penny to gamble with. In cases like this, don't gamble to meet your basic needs, it will be difficult to do.

So, is there a solution to stop slowly and expect realistic improvements? in this context, it is like being addicted to illegal substances. Actually, it's possible, because everything starts from a habit. doing it step by step and only fulfilling high desires can be done. however, with various conditions. Play with the minimum bankroll, only doing gambling sessions to relieve strong cravings. after that, switch it to another method. However, this cannot be done by just one addict. What is certain is that one must be guided and monitored closely. limit every activity, especially those related to betting. Also, it requires determination and strong intentions from addicted sufferers. Even though it seems difficult, it is worth trying.

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December 12, 2023, 02:54:32 PM
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One reason for gambling addicts to stop for a moment after they realize they are losing and they don't have income for daily needs, apart from that I don't think they will realize to limit their gambling activities, so we have to act actively to warn friends who are already addicted to gambling to limit the use of funds in betting so that they will stop gambling once they lose their limited funds. I always remind my friends to get out of the gambling addiction zone even though they don't listen at the moment but they will realize that my warning will be useful for them one day.
By stopping for a moment and realizing that he has lost, he can help him reflect on his mistakes and learn his lesson. By doing so, he can at least try to start limiting his gambling activities so that he can learn to reduce the amount he loses. And I agree always to warn friends who are addicted to gambling to start trying to limit their gambling. If they still don't want to, that's up to them because it is the responsibility of each person who uses their money to gamble. The important thing is that we must always limit our gambling activities so that we avoid losing a lot and so that we can still have money left over that we can use to gamble another day.
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December 12, 2023, 03:42:26 PM
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Move to a small town, without internet activity ~XD

If you are a landbase gambler, while you are gambling on (Bars, Casino Landbase) the best thing to do just avoid any town who have some offering for gambling. I see so many bar on UK provided gambling.

It's crazy, because the alternative fun they have (Drinking) is also have gambling. So, you're really hard to find other alternative for your free time.

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December 12, 2023, 04:06:17 PM
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if you have reached the addiction stage, quitting cold turkey can be quite serious for your body and mental condition. for example, when someone is addicted to smoking and at one time he immediately stops it all without gradual, it can cause his body to become sick or make him become anxious, these symptoms are called withdrawal symptoms. that's why psychiatrists usually advise someone to reduce their habits to the point where they are able to stop these habits without affecting their body and mind.

however, if someone is really serious about quitting their addiction, maybe they can quit cold turkey easily.

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I think it depends on the level of addiction one has. Those who are just at the initial stage of the addiction can easily quit gambling if they realize early that they are getting into a problem. Those who have gotten into the addiction but aren't too deep inside as of now might be able to leave it if they start reducing their time and budget for their gambling activities as soon as they realize they need to get out of it. However, those who are already too deep into the addiction will have a hard time doing both of these things.

For someone who is a complete addict, has been gambling for a very long time, and is not unable to stop gambling, they surely need external help to get rid of their addiction, that too if they have now realized that they are in a problematic situation because gambling addicts that don't acknowledge this fact can barely be helped.

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December 13, 2023, 05:31:14 AM
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if you have reached the addiction stage, quitting cold turkey can be quite serious for your body and mental condition. for example, when someone is addicted to smoking and at one time he immediately stops it all without gradual, it can cause his body to become sick or make him become anxious, these symptoms are called withdrawal symptoms. that's why psychiatrists usually advise someone to reduce their habits to the point where they are able to stop these habits without affecting their body and mind.

however, if someone is really serious about quitting their addiction, maybe they can quit cold turkey easily.
Yes, it is true that when we are addicted to something, we cannot get rid of it easily, we need to do it slowly so that it doesn't cause bad effects for our body. Reducing cigarette addiction is not an easy thing for some people, but if Indeed, we can do this by gambling, of course this is good for our health, but not for our financial condition.
In getting rid of addiction, of course we have to do it consistently because to get satisfactory results for ourselves, if we do it inconsistently we certainly won't be able to get the results we want.

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