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December 10, 2023, 06:47:41 PM
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In my own candid opinion, I disagree with this so called fuel subsidy removal. Standard of living was better during the era of fuel subsidy. It was better when public funds were misappropriated and Embezzled. Let them eat the money and allow us to buy fuel at a subsidized rate.
 Imagine since the inception of this subsidy removal dating from 29th of may 2023, I have been unable to run my power generating set (generator) due to high cost of fueling. I now buy Ice block to cool my drinks since I can't use generator to power my refrigerator In my local grocery store.
 The one that shock me again is that port Harcourt to owerri I used to pay a total fare #1,500 from my residence to mbaitoli in owerri, I now paid a total amount #11,000. This is disheartening.
When I fuel my motorcycle with #1000 just to go and buy something, I can't use that fuel for the next day because I will be having empty tank. My church generator always shuts down during service since we can't afford sufficient fuel.
The one that anger me the most is that, the so called palliative which was meant to cushion the effect of the subsidy was not evenly distributed, what got to my locality was one cup of rice for one person, I learnt that two bags of rice was given to our chief, he reserved one bag for him and his family and then share one bag to the whole community he also had share from this one bag meant for the community for himself again as though he has collected before. Just the same way he reserved one for himself  I know that is how everybody that had come in contact from that top(federal) had been stealing, hiding and reserving for themselves. What a country.
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December 10, 2023, 09:33:04 PM
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No matter what, we should say no to corruption and embezzlement. These are parts of what that have crippled Nigeria into what is happening presently.

I can understand you, Obasanjo and Jonathan time were better. Especially Jonathan's time when Nigeria became the highest in GDP in Africa. The GDP increased significantly during Jonathan's time, and it is still higher than our GDP right now. But if not because of corruption and embezzlement, Nigeria would have been better than it was also in Jonathan's time.

The problem worsen in Buhari's time. He closed border and inflation started. It still continues this time. I can remember my neighbors were able to put on generator for 3 to 5 hours at night before Tinubu become the president. Either they do not on generator now or they put on the generator for just an hour. It is true that life was better without fuel subsidy removal. But we should still say no to corruption and embezzlement.

What valid reason do we have that the present government officials are not corrupt and embezzling money. Or what makes you think that corruption has reduced or that there is no more in Nigeria? Do not let us deceives ourselves.

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December 10, 2023, 10:14:21 PM
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A government that has authoritative capacity over the lawful jurisdictions is seemed a super government. Such is a government that imposes and implements the laws and yet they personally breaks the same laws simply because they feels above the laws and the juridical parliament keep to succumbing to the same governments that is juridically supposed to be justified according to its power of lawfulness in the societies. Otherwise, the corrupted governments of every governance are not even worth of sympathy justice because due to their heartlessness and inhumans behaviorals in their rulerships with the societies.

Such corruptive governments that has always taken the leads of leadership's and forces in power is definitely leaders of personal interests in governance whom are extortive taskers, embezzlers and rebels.
The governments energies of rulerships are self-centered with selfish interests and doesn't care what the masses goes through.

That is Nigeria for us all they even if it is not acceptable, you must be forced to as long your voice outs is never recognized neither your existence is recognize but all they cares about is having the masses as a revenue to generating of  incomes of feeding fats of public funds in an obvious manner yet the juridicrions keeps being adamant and ignorant to the nature of the unpleasantary lives we sees on each and every basis even of differential basis of the government. The super governments systems in the country has seemed being a normality while the hardship is on its continuities.

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December 10, 2023, 10:15:35 PM
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The one that anger me the most is that, the so called palliative which was meant to cushion the effect of the subsidy was not evenly distributed, what got to my locality was one cup of rice for one person, I learnt that two bags of rice was given to our chief, he reserved one bag for him and his family and then share one bag to the whole community he also had share from this one bag meant for the community for himself again as though he has collected before. Just the same way he reserved one for himself  I know that is how everybody that had come in contact from that top(federal) had been stealing, hiding and reserving for themselves. What a country.

Op since you know this then there's no need of vomiting it out. my advice for you as you have just said about your transportation is now to cost, yes we know there's corruption in the country but you don't just sit one side and just be waiting till things get together, it might be of wasting your time is better you find something doing that will lift you, because politicians of now are only after your vote not your problems brother.
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December 17, 2023, 06:54:43 AM
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Normally all this people wey dey claim to be good leaders before the election they are all thieves, just imagine wattin we as a country dey pass through, from person wey be na human like us, this na one of the major reasons why I no like anything politics, because all politicians are liers. The money for the fuel subsidy no go reach to take fo anything, even the palliative no go fit reach one full state wey get better population, talk more of the whole country, the best thing na make the president just admit say that fuel subsidy na failed project them make e settle with NNPC to bring the price down okperi.
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December 17, 2023, 08:50:31 PM
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What valid reason do we have that the present government officials are not corrupt and embezzling money. Or what makes you think that corruption has reduced or that there is no more in Nigeria? Do not let us deceives ourselves.

Given the opportunity to go back to the so called "corruption" regime vs or remain speculated non-corrupt regimes of Buhari and Tinibu, I'd pick the previous rather than the latter. Life was a lot more easier for a lot of families in Jonathan's regime compared to Buhari + Tinibu combined. Yet, we're led to believe that little or no corruptions begets good standard of living but as it turns out, those money saved from subsidiaries are being used to incentivize governments to live luxuriously while citizens strive in extreme poverty

No corruption was stopped - we were only played.

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December 17, 2023, 09:30:04 PM
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Well sincerely speaking I am tired of country that country this because we have tried to fight for changes yet it didn't come through what do we do as citizen is it not better we follow the trend the way our country needs it?
Okay talking of fuel subsidy removal, how can a president that has never been elected speaking about fuel removal from the first day, does this show normal or he has an interior motive either having something in mind as a target that as he is coming in as a president he would do this or that to enable him benefits. If no, why did He just enter and announced fuel subsidy removal? Well I won't go further because even though there wouldn't be a tangible results to show that this was the main reason why he did that or not.
Country tire person e better make we rest because if we no removed our mind for we country we fit enter one problem or another.

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December 18, 2023, 11:30:52 PM
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No matter what, we should say no to corruption and embezzlement. These are parts of what that have crippled Nigeria into what is happening presently.
Seriously.. I no understand wetin him talk. Say them suppose no commot subsidy even though him know say na means of embezzlement? Them no suppose stop the fraudulent act? How him thing say Nigeria go come better with that ideology?.. if and only if the governments don remove subsidy, wetin them suppose do na to find alternative for the citizens, make the pressure from the effect of the subsidy removal no come make the people suffer, which na wetin Dem never consider. Sometimes, I dey talk say this ipob people dey right.. because the rulership for Nigeria no even favor anybody sef.
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December 19, 2023, 10:31:54 AM
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Your post really make me laugh and nostalgic. First I can relate to your church gen going off during service, that one don dey be normal occurrence especially for smaller churches wey go want manage because dem no go fit burn 5k fuel for service.

But why dem go give a whole community two bags of rice for fuel subsidy palliative to cushion which side of effect really  Huh And you want blame una chief for safeguarding one for himself and family  Grin Abi you think say una chief dey happy as the palliative no reach anywhere.

No doubt worst times are still ahead and na survival of the fittest. Government no dey always send the masses and that is why they won't send cash palliative through bank account via BVN because they are not sincere in all their dealings which is Nigerian politics for you.

Instead wey government go do better thing for the generality of the people, dem go carry tax come to collect the one wey dey your hand. Subsidy removal itself na scam because you can't remove subsidy and you still dey refine crude oil for outside the country. Dem no want build refinery because dem get refinery outside wey dey give dem personal rebate.

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December 19, 2023, 11:37:26 AM
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In my own candid opinion, I disagree with this so called fuel subsidy removal. Standard of living was better during the era of fuel subsidy. It was better when public funds were misappropriated and Embezzled. Let them eat the money and allow us to buy fuel at a subsidized rate.
 Imagine since the inception of this subsidy removal dating from 29th of may 2023, I have been unable to run my power generating set (generator) due to high cost of fueling. I now buy Ice block to cool my drinks since I can't use generator to power my refrigerator In my local grocery store.
 The one that shock me again is that port Harcourt to owerri I used to pay a total fare #1,500 from my residence to mbaitoli in owerri, I now paid a total amount #11,000. This is disheartening.
When I fuel my motorcycle with #1000 just to go and buy something, I can't use that fuel for the next day because I will be having empty tank. My church generator always shuts down during service since we can't afford sufficient fuel.
The one that anger me the most is that, the so called palliative which was meant to cushion the effect of the subsidy was not evenly distributed, what got to my locality was one cup of rice for one person, I learnt that two bags of rice was given to our chief, he reserved one bag for him and his family and then share one bag to the whole community he also had share from this one bag meant for the community for himself again as though he has collected before. Just the same way he reserved one for himself  I know that is how everybody that had come in contact from that top(federal) had been stealing, hiding and reserving for themselves. What a country.

OP, Removal of fuel subsidy was never a bad idea but it was done wrongly, for a government that has blue print, I think the pressing needs of the masses would have been tackle before taking such decision considering it's negative impact on the citizens, The president acted as if the only problem of Nigeria is the subsidy regime and think he got it wrong, up till this very moment the cabals still loot through this process, there are still loopholes which has to be dealt with.

Our leaders are very corrupt, if the government of the day want to come clean then the scrutiny has to start from the executive, I have watched closely the major reason for the repair and maintenance of our refineries is not necessarily for the reduction in the price of our petroleum products, they are doing it to either privatize it and make you believe that the are not in charge of fixing the price since it is now been owned by private firm.
When you make investigation you will understand that there is slight price drop of pms but it will surprise you that petrol station can not effect the new price because no one is ready to give them a thorough check, this is the country that we found ourselves, But I believe the government can fix things if they want to, it is very disappointing that Nigeria is still facing the same problem of corruption from military regime to this democratic rule as the call it, may God help us to overcome this hard time.



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December 19, 2023, 01:23:33 PM
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In my own candid opinion, I disagree with this so called fuel subsidy removal. Standard of living was better during the era of fuel subsidy. It was better when public funds were misappropriated and Embezzled. Let them eat the money and allow us to buy fuel at a subsidized rate.
 Imagine since the inception of this subsidy removal dating from 29th of may 2023, I have been unable to run my power generating set (generator) due to high cost of fueling. I now buy Ice block to cool my drinks since I can't use generator to power my refrigerator In my local grocery store.
 The one that shock me again is that port Harcourt to owerri I used to pay a total fare #1,500 from my residence to mbaitoli in owerri, I now paid a total amount #11,000. This is disheartening.
When I fuel my motorcycle with #1000 just to go and buy something, I can't use that fuel for the next day because I will be having empty tank. My church generator always shuts down during service since we can't afford sufficient fuel.
The one that anger me the most is that, the so called palliative which was meant to cushion the effect of the subsidy was not evenly distributed, what got to my locality was one cup of rice for one person, I learnt that two bags of rice was given to our chief, he reserved one bag for him and his family and then share one bag to the whole community he also had share from this one bag meant for the community for himself again as though he has collected before. Just the same way he reserved one for himself  I know that is how everybody that had come in contact from that top(federal) had been stealing, hiding and reserving for themselves. What a country.

This fuel subsidy matter still dey bother you? Ever since the day our president talk say he want to remove fuel subsidy, i know this is how we go take buy fuel through out this year, if next year reach we go dey look how they will take do about it, anything wey this government try to do, we no get choice than to follow am, even though we take shout say we no gree over what they are plan to do nothing go change am, to me most of leadership just dey fool us since we get new president for this country i never i hear any good news, all have been hearing everybody dey complain that economy is getting hard, i never see any positive changes from them, about this fuel wey cost so no be everybody take remember when he/she take travel last last, even this christmas no be everybody go travel  back to their village as fuel don cost, no be everybody go fit carry their family say they should travel back to the village.

I dont know waiting this government take carry us sef, this palliative of a thing, una even see rice for una side, as rice don cost now, for my community, we just see one spag for one house and no be say each house received am o, some people sef vex say them no want, as your cheif take carry one bag of rice take share one for una, that's how all this leaders have been doing, if anything enter their hand they will remove their share before given out the remain one, only God knows how many bags of rice was given before two bag go reach una community.

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December 19, 2023, 02:31:34 PM
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Well sincerely speaking I am tired of country that country this because we have tried to fight for changes yet it didn't come through what do we do as citizen is it not better we follow the trend the way our country needs it?
Okay talking of fuel subsidy removal, how can a president that has never been elected speaking about fuel removal from the first day, does this show normal or he has an interior motive either having something in mind as a target that as he is coming in as a president he would do this or that to enable him benefits. If no, why did He just enter and announced fuel subsidy removal? Well I won't go further because even though there wouldn't be a tangible results to show that this was the main reason why he did that or not.
Country tire person e better make we rest because if we no removed our mind for we country we fit enter one problem or another.

I agree with on this,  and I can say that fuel subsidy removal was good but the approach may have failed to take care of temporarily set backs such as this,  the economy is suffering and the citizens are wallowing in pain because of the hardship that the removal have brought on them,  this is very bad even though the aim and objectives of the subsidy removal was for the betterment of the country economy,  a lit of corruptions have happened in the past and that have really dragged the economy backwards and one of such is fuel subsidy,  cabals and theifs were holding our country hostage and that can not continue to happen and someone need to set the captive free.

But remember freedom is not always free,  you have to sacrifice and work for it,  and that is what we are facing presently in Nigeria,  but for sure,  the president approach was bad,  because he took that decision without even taking the time to consider the impact or making plans to provides alternative for the Nigerians citizens,  bit I believe things will not continue this way and by next year,  we may see the impact of all this high cost of things reducing most especially when the refineries starts working,  I am sure even if the government own refineries are not working,  we will have a privately owned refinery that can serve the economy because fuel is the major propeller of the economy.

So let us buckle up for some tough time ahead,  and make chance for new adoption and adjustment,  because I was listening to the president speech last time and he was not ready to go back on his word,  he says and I quotes (just like a woman in labour,  she will go through pains but at the end of the day she will smile when the baby arrived).

President Tinubu also said that Nigerai should be ready to bear the pain with promise that things will get better soon,  this is why I have been saying that you as minister and representatives of the people should go back and educate your people about the program and help them prepare the mind.

With that, I think we already have all the evidence needed to conclude that,  the President has decided and upon well-informed manner.
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December 19, 2023, 04:01:56 PM
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Well sincerely speaking I am tired of country that country this because we have tried to fight for changes yet it didn't come through what do we do as citizen is it not better we follow the trend the way our country needs it?
Okay talking of fuel subsidy removal, how can a president that has never been elected speaking about fuel removal from the first day, does this show normal or he has an interior motive either having something in mind as a target that as he is coming in as a president he would do this or that to enable him benefits. If no, why did He just enter and announced fuel subsidy removal? Well I won't go further because even though there wouldn't be a tangible results to show that this was the main reason why he did that or not.
Country tire person e better make we rest because if we no removed our mind for we country we fit enter one problem or another.

I agree with on this,  and I can say that fuel subsidy removal was good but the approach may have failed to take care of temporarily set backs such as this,  the economy is suffering and the citizens are wallowing in pain because of the hardship that the removal have brought on them,  this is very bad even though the aim and objectives of the subsidy removal was for the betterment of the country economy,  a lit of corruptions have happened in the past and that have really dragged the economy backwards and one of such is fuel subsidy,  cabals and theifs were holding our country hostage and that can not continue to happen and someone need to set the captive free.
I will tell you with all manner of approach that our country is not yet ready to free themselves from being captive and again You and I knows that the country is highly corrupted and look too well again the current president did he win the election?
How many of us voted him and how come he emerges the winner? And how come he said is his turn and he just comfortably seated there thinking Presidential seat is for retirement or entitlement where an old man someone who is meant to have a cool place in the country seat and take care of himself came out to purchase a form and which he did go for campaign and people stupidly followed him why because of money and lack of foresightedness I mean, people with no vision followed him to put a deadman as president well I won't even think of going further because if I should I might have blood pressure.

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December 20, 2023, 11:55:51 PM
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Things of this country don’t surprise me anymore I have complain and I advise myself the same I don’t want the problem of this country to even affect my life if Fuel turns #1,000 no matter what we gonna get use to it the only thing I will advise is let get something to do not just here, but even business you can see your cash physically because the way I see this country Tinubu will later sell nigeria because the way those me share and approve trillions really amazed me but all the same we still pray things go well for this country.
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In my own candid opinion, I disagree with this so called fuel subsidy removal. Standard of living was better during the era of fuel subsidy. It was better when public funds were misappropriated and Embezzled. Let them eat the money and allow us to buy fuel at a subsidized rate.
 Imagine since the inception of this subsidy removal dating from 29th of may 2023, I have been unable to run my power generating set (generator) due to high cost of fueling. I now buy Ice block to cool my drinks since I can't use generator to power my refrigerator In my local grocery store.
 The one that shock me again is that port Harcourt to owerri I used to pay a total fare #1,500 from my residence to mbaitoli in owerri, I now paid a total amount #11,000. This is disheartening.
When I fuel my motorcycle with #1000 just to go and buy something, I can't use that fuel for the next day because I will be having empty tank. My church generator always shuts down during service since we can't afford sufficient fuel.
The one that anger me the most is that, the so called palliative which was meant to cushion the effect of the subsidy was not evenly distributed, what got to my locality was one cup of rice for one person, I learnt that two bags of rice was given to our chief, he reserved one bag for him and his family and then share one bag to the whole community he also had share from this one bag meant for the community for himself again as though he has collected before. Just the same way he reserved one for himself  I know that is how everybody that had come in contact from that top(federal) had been stealing, hiding and reserving for themselves. What a country.

My brother no matter how we take shout for this our country head them go still do waiting them go do, since I was born I never experience the kind of subsidy before, this one take time oh, this subsidy matter come make country be like one village place, I no even understand naija again since all this thing's start, since this subsidy matter start I Don see many people Don drop their car, they no won drive car again because of the price of the fuel, even to travel now don become big thing, and even for this Xmas I no sure say people go travel go their village's oh because some people go talk say instead of using that kind big money travel make them used am chop for house.

And about palliative, my brother E even better make they no share na nonsense they call rice and all that stupid things they call food stuff, food wey no reach everybody house, some local government no even see the good because the workers share the stuff and they are now sharing corn about instead of rice wey government bring and no be everybody still get the corn, thank God say them no bring am come my house I for chase them commot, because I no dey wait for government before I chop.

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December 21, 2023, 02:56:39 PM
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Since the removal of the fuel subsidy, has it in any way stopped the embezzlement of public funds from the country? What's still happening in the ruling era of Buhari is still happening up till now(being worse instead) despite the change in the government.

I think It will be best for Nigerians to have the notion that the current state of our dear country is far from being saved from the bad state of corruption that has eaten deeply into the country.

What we should all know is that, If our country's government promises to implement a law, let ''we'' the masses don't think or assume it is in our favor rather it is theirs to keep sucking the country's economy to be dry.

Before and during the removal of fuel subsidies, there were debates that it was going to better our country. Let the money that is meant for fuel subsidy, be used to boost our country's economy. What are we seeing today? Otherwise. Our country's economy getting worse day by day without a rescue plan on how to save our economy from the free fall it is to the dollar.

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December 22, 2023, 07:02:11 PM
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Since the removal of the fuel subsidy, has it in any way stopped the embezzlement of public funds from the country? What's still happening in the ruling era of Buhari is still happening up till now(being worse instead) despite the change in the government.

I'm not sure if it was this week when I was watching the Channel TV, the ex central bank governor was interview and to make comments on the current state of the monetary policies of the country and he addressed some issues but there was a question he asked. It was concerning the subsidy funds and where they are going since the removal took place. The government was worried that the subsidy has been the problem because of the massive corruption that is going on and as such, they will stop funding fuel and since then fuel price has skyrocketed but the question is, where are those funds going to now and what are they used for since subsidy was put to a stop.

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I think It will be best for Nigerians to have the notion that the current state of our dear country is far from being saved from the bad state of corruption that has eaten deeply into the country.

What we should all know is that, If our country's government promises to implement a law, let ''we'' the masses don't think or assume it is in our favor rather it is theirs to keep sucking the country's economy to be dry.

Before and during the removal of fuel subsidies, there were debates that it was going to better our country. Let the money that is meant for fuel subsidy, be used to boost our country's economy. What are we seeing today? Otherwise. Our country's economy getting worse day by day without a rescue plan on how to save our economy from the free fall it is to the dollar.

Nigeria government will not do anything, know this and have a peace of mind. The government will make promises here and there but guess what, they can't really deliver anything because the government we have is a parallel government. Look at all the arms of the government, is it not the same people that are ruling the country? How do we expect a change when there is no change in the government yet we expect something, the joke is on us.

The country is full of clowns and corrupts ecosystem of government, if we want to see real change then we need to weed out some of those guys.

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December 22, 2023, 07:19:43 PM
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Ever since the fuel subsidy removal, the Nigeria economy has been so bad... All the funds the ex administration has be paying up to subsidize the pump price of fuel where has the new government diverted the money to?. Very annoying government.
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December 22, 2023, 08:14:32 PM
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This subsidy removal of a thing I don't see how it will be beneficial to Nigerians,  since they  implemented this I haven't seen anything getting better . Our president go dey say it is for our good and a better future.  You sure say this people dem no dey deceive us with this subsidy only just for them to still from the countries economy. I no believe if this our politicians wey we get they mean anything good for us at all . They just keep making things difficult for us and pretending they are making things to be better for us .

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December 23, 2023, 07:33:01 PM
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This subsidy removal of a thing I don't see how it will be beneficial to Nigerians,  since they  implemented this I haven't seen anything getting better . Our president go dey say it is for our good and a better future.  You sure say this people dem no dey deceive us with this subsidy only just for them to still from the countries economy. I no believe if this our politicians wey we get they mean anything good for us at all . They just keep making things difficult for us and pretending they are making things to be better for us .

Just leave that man, be like this one na em own format to use take scam the country, if not how person go do wattin e nor dey see any improvement and fact don dey wey prove say that palliative no go fit do the entire country but e sti insist say e nor go stop am, my brother that man na scam, na so all the politicians be. Dem know how the dollar to naira market dey be, and because of that one price of things just dey sky rocket anyhow, and e still dey hold strong to em decision make the price of fuel join they suffer us. Anyway Sha na only God go help us, these days Dem don dey make good decisions maybe them fit consider this one join.
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