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December 10, 2023, 11:05:05 PM
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BitcoinPoW is Bitcoin using proof of work(PoW) and proof of transactions(PoT) to verify blocks. This new mining technique naturally makes mining pools useless. This will form a highly mining decentralized Bitcoin.

Here is the White paper:

https://github.com/fluffyfunction/BitcoinPoW/blob/23.x/README.md


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December 10, 2023, 11:51:50 PM
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Interesting concept but wouldn't this eventually lead to block space filled up with txs for mining with no room for regular txs or heavy fees for regular txs?
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December 10, 2023, 11:58:22 PM
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The market would reach equilibrium. Fees would go up and discourage new miners. This wouldn't happen though until 10000 miners are already protecting the chain. At some point the entire Block space would always be filled up and some amount would be new miners and others would be regular transactions. You can create your transactions now while it is early and you can use them forever. They will never go away unless you spend them. Smart to take that real estate right now while it is easy.
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December 11, 2023, 03:32:03 AM
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BitcoinPoW is Bitcoin using proof of work(PoW) and proof of transactions(PoT) to verify blocks. This new mining technique naturally makes mining pools useless. This will form a highly mining decentralized Bitcoin.

Here is the White paper:

https://github.com/fluffyfunction/BitcoinPoW/blob/23.x/README.md


Come to Telegram to get free coins to start mining:
https://t.me/BitcoinPoWPoT

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You need to set up a discord... and this needs to be much more miner friendly than how the github lays it out. Give us a playbook to quickly get to mining.
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December 11, 2023, 03:39:39 AM
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Yes, it is a bit of work to setup mining. The community is growing and a developer is working on automating some of the steps to deploy a miner that is ready to mine using PoW/PoT. It will take some time.

Join us here:

https://t.me/BitcoinPoWPoT
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December 11, 2023, 01:15:28 PM
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I don't understand. what algo is it ?
why we need to ask for 1 coin to start mining ?
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December 11, 2023, 02:18:27 PM
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Yes, it is a bit of work to setup mining. The community is growing and a developer is working on automating some of the steps to deploy a miner that is ready to mine using PoW/PoT. It will take some time.

Join us here:

https://t.me/BitcoinPoWPoT
Hi, so I just mined a block on my mining wallet.

How do I send this mined block to another wallet for mining that will not reset all my transactions? (As you mentioned in the Telegram chat)

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I got it, seems I have to enable it on the wallet options.
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December 11, 2023, 03:41:54 PM
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Congrats on mining a block!

You need to enable the coin control features in the options menu under wallet tab. Then when you send you need to select coin control features and select the coins that you allow to be used in the tx when sending.

You should do this before sending coin from a mining wallet all the time or you risk throwing away your potential hash power (Transactions).

You said you figured it out, just wanted to give a little more detail to help others out.
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December 11, 2023, 03:56:48 PM
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I don't understand. what algo is it ?
why we need to ask for 1 coin to start mining ?

It is a new innovation algorithm that makes it useless to use a mining pool. The mining pool cannot sign the block after it has been found, the user that owns the transaction is the only one with the key. Plus, the only way to mine is to use user transactions. It is highly inefficient for users to send all their txs to a centralized pool and have the centralized pool send them out in batches.

The transactions are the potential hash power that the CPU can operate on. You want your CPU to be busy as possible doing PoW on the transactions to find a block. This is the key to the algorithm and prevents mining pools from operating with this coin.
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December 11, 2023, 04:32:16 PM
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nothing new, almost all projects does this at start, pools come later when diff is going up.

so that's cpu mining, which algo ?

and why we need to have 1 coin to start ?
I gave my address on TG hours ago, and reveice anything

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December 11, 2023, 05:59:29 PM
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nothing new, almost all projects does this at start, pools come later when diff is going up.

so that's cpu mining, which algo ?

and why we need to have 1 coin to start ?
I gave my address on TG hours ago, and reveice anything

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Pools will not be able to mine this coin.

This algo is a combination of Proof of Work (PoW) and Proof of Transactions (PoT). A wallet generates many transactions. It is these user's transactions that are used for the PoW to solve the equation and mine a block. Once the miner finds one of the transaction hashes that solves the PoW equation:

hash(previous_stake_hash + others) < bnTarget

The winning transaction gets the block reward and it will be spendable in 3 blocks.

You need at least 1 satoshi to generate a transaction, then you can mine. In reality, you want to generate 10,000 transactions per wallet (or more) so the CPU has much more work to keep busy trying to solve the above simplified equation. This is why we are sending out 0.1 BTCW, it gives enough to start mining well.

If you did not get coin on Telegram, please ask again. Sorry, it has been very busy on the BTCW chat.
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December 11, 2023, 10:03:24 PM
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Need 10k tx, start with 0.1, can you create 30 tx with 0.1?
new coin mainet 1 week, no need to be stingy and stingy
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December 11, 2023, 10:32:05 PM
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Need 10k tx, start with 0.1, can you create 30 tx with 0.1?
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10k is not needed to mine. Mining starts with as little as 1 satoshi. The more txs you have, the more work the CPU can do.

Your math is off. Sending 0.00001 with a fee of 0.00001225 can get you almost 5000 transactions to mine. Once you get a block, you will have 50 BTCW to start mining. If you need another 0.1, ask for it on telegram.
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December 12, 2023, 01:27:05 PM
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Would creating a second wallet to mine in the same GUI instance work? Would both mine at the same time? That way we can save resources as opposed to multiple gui instances opened at the same time
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December 12, 2023, 04:33:44 PM
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A wallet will mine when it has mature coins and at least 1 transaction and at least connected to 4 other nodes. However you want to get transactions into a wallet is up the user. There is a Python script in the white paper, the community has made a Nodejs version that sends txs, another dev is working on another approach. You can have many wallets with the GUI, but only one of them can be active at any given time. This means the miner will mine using the active selected wallet. Easiest approach is to use 2 GUI wallets. Send txs from one wallet to the receiving wallet.

There is much mining talk on Telegram, come join the chat and ask the community questions.

https://t.me/BitcoinPoWPoT
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December 12, 2023, 04:45:49 PM
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A wallet will mine when it has mature coins and at least 1 transaction and at least connected to 4 other nodes. However you want to get transactions into a wallet is up the user. There is a Python script in the white paper, the community has made a Nodejs version that sends txs, another dev is working on another approach. You can have many wallets with the GUI, but only one of them can be active at any given time. This means the miner will mine using the active selected wallet. Easiest approach is to use 2 GUI wallets. Send txs from one wallet to the receiving wallet.

There is much mining talk on Telegram, come join the chat and ask the community questions.

https://t.me/BitcoinPoWPoT
That's interesting, because I'm just testing this just now, and the "inactive" wallet found a block. Maybe just a gui bug?
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December 12, 2023, 06:48:30 PM
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There isn't a limit on the number transactions to enable mining. Mining is always on by default. It starts mining with 0 tx, but will never find a block, so transactions must be brought in. You can mine with 1 tx or 10k tx or 50k tx. Once you have established your transactions for mining, you have them for life. You don't need to do it again unless you want to get more tx hashes to feed more CPU to do more PoW to increase your hash power.
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December 12, 2023, 06:58:39 PM
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mining conditions are difficult, no pool, network is too slow or paralyzed, only more than 150 blocks were found after 24 hours, and now only the first blocks of the network, what will happen to the blocks 20000 50000 ,network participants will have to wait dozens of hours to several days...,you haven't realized your mistake in block 1349?
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December 13, 2023, 04:03:38 AM
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I have been unable to find a block after 3 days of mining with 3000 transactions. Could it be that the mining conditions are too difficult?  Sad Sad Sad
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December 13, 2023, 07:15:45 PM
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I have been unable to find a block after 3 days of mining with 3000 transactions. Could it be that the mining conditions are too difficult?  Sad Sad Sad


There are at least 400 wallets mining BTCW. Competition is growing. Each block has around 4000 transactions. Your 3000 is a small fraction against the community. Don't forget, it is NOT txs that make the hash rate, it are the CPUs iterating thru the txs that give the hash power. You can consider transactions to be 'FUEL' and the CPU needs 'FUEL' to do its PoW. The more CPUs running 'FUEL', the more hash power you have. Each CPU can only handle so much 'FUEL'. So at some point you need to use more CPUs. This is 99.9999% PoW coin with a small amount of PoS that makes this coin impossible to be centralized with a mining pool.


Come learn how to mine BTCW on Telegram:

https://t.me/BitcoinPoWPoT
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