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December 11, 2023, 10:03:48 AM
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I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

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December 11, 2023, 10:10:06 AM
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Haven't you heard of self-exclusion in gambling?

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What is self-exclusion?
Self-exclusion means asking one or multiple gambling companies to prevent you from gambling with them for a set length of time, usually between 6 months and 5 years. This means you will not be able to gamble within their venue, or via their website or app. Gambling companies must offer you the option to self-exclude by law.

https://www.begambleaware.org/self-exclusion

So yes, you can do go to the gaming commission and ask yourself to be ban. I know a guy that has been banned, but he didn't do it himself, his wife did. The wife call the casinos and describe his husband and obviously his identification.

And then he told me that he was surprised when he go to a casino and that he was stop and was banned from entering. Later he found out that his wife is the one responsible because that time he was really addicted to that point that he is playing money that did not belong to him (he was a government employee that time).

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December 11, 2023, 10:11:59 AM
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I probably won't do the same thing he did but I'd most likely look for other ways to stop my addiction, I mean, there are better ways to overcome addiction without risking yourself from being prosecuted. anyway, if the story is true, I'm glad it worked for him, I don't even know if what he said is possible, I mean I know you can do it on an online casino but I am not sure if it is possible on physical casinos.

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December 11, 2023, 10:18:35 AM
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Wait WHAT? He already banned his name yet they still allow him to play? The problem here is that the money still goes from him to the casino and yet nothing goes from the casino to him. The casino should've outright denied his entry instead of doing something like this. It's like a willy-nilly slapshot of bandages that was done haphazardly. That's just... dumb. Wouldn't it be possible to report that or something?

Anw to the topic, yes OP it's possible afaik. Not specifically to gaming commissions though but rather instead to casino directly themselves. May vary from country to country I guess? It's not really an insane move, more like it's pretty common sense to do so if you're able to wake up for a bit. Just that the process itself is kind of iffy for me? As I said, casinos should outright deny the entry instead of something like this.

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December 11, 2023, 10:30:55 AM
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I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.
Every gambling addict has a story similar to this, big win at the beginning before they become entangled in the euphoria of easy money. It is always good we discuss this kind of things in this forum so that people will learn from others mistakes. Gambling is a very profitable business when followed systematically with greed and fear under check.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?
He is neither a hero nor a fool but somebody taking proactive measures in solving his personal problems. You are not in his shoes so you will not know the extent of damage he might have suffered from his ordeal. Gambling is not for everyone, so since he realised he had to stop gambling, the approach he adopted may just be what he consider most effective. There are a lot of gambling addicts who cannot help themselves unless they adopt this approach.  

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December 11, 2023, 10:33:36 AM
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Definitely a fool, if he already went to a gaming commission to have his name blacklisted or banned then shouldn't his gambling habits have stopped because he was banned or flagged whatever? But as the story goes on, this person can still get into these casinos and still play but only get a 200 USD win, man can still waste money and not be able to bring back a profit because he can't win big which is stupid, if you're not stopping from gambling even after you did those crazy request from the gaming commission then nothing changed because the money spent is still there and he's still gambling.
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December 11, 2023, 10:39:00 AM
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A hero to himself but a fool to others.

This is simply how I see it because of the fact that he cannot control himself hence the Fool and because he did it to himself to save himself, then he is a hero for himself. That's just how I see it and if that's the only way he can, then it's good he did it to help himself.

A weird take on this is he can still play. I mean I would understand if it's online but if it's land based, it's still weird. It's like the ban is not there if he could still play. The Hero turned into a Fool since it's like that lol.

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December 11, 2023, 10:39:09 AM
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In my own view, this doesn't look like a practical story, it well depicts fiction or cooked up story. OP, could you please give us the link to the source of your story so we can visit it ourselves and get some other salient points or parts of the story you failed to mention like what it took him to get his name banned, how he was able to overcome the temptation of creating a new account and even using a friend's documents to register a new account as the addiction spirit possessed him sometime later?. There are various valuable process lessons myself would love to draw from the main story.

Anyways, he did what was best for him considering the fact that he was very displeased with his new addiction, and he was that determined to change and straighten his path. Different things work for different people. If he achieved his aim, then it validates the process as the end surely justifies the means.

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December 11, 2023, 10:39:20 AM
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What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

Weird strategy but as what you said that he succeeded on stopping himself to gamble then that was a heroic move on his part because the main objective has been achieved and hope he is now happy on his gambling-free life.

I just wonder on how he did it, i mean banned himself from winning big amounts in casinos. For me that ban move is like talking to a doctor to treat his addiction in gambling, gradual withdrawal from it as abrupt may cause mental concerns on him.

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December 11, 2023, 10:49:57 AM
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It's possible even in online gambling sites. You can actually make a case if they will keep on e-mailing you about promotions and events while you already signed up to be excluded from them because of the gambling addiction problem.

Well, in the case of your story, it's both good and bad for him. He cannot win big means he should not also be allowed to lose big amounts. And now that he won a huge amount he won't be receiving the full of it. He ain't playing/gambling now because of that reason. IMO, that was a successful way to avoid gambling. He can now just relax and never be stressed about when or how he could gamble. Never mind the $5000, I think deleting the urgency to gamble is a better prize than it.
If he receives that amount then he may have not stopped gambling. Right? I think he did the right thing at the end of the day and he will be thankful for it when he remembers what he had done.

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Weird strategy but as what you said that he succeeded on stopping himself to gamble then that was a heroic move on his part because the main objective has been achieved and hope he is now happy on his gambling-free life.

I just wonder on how he did it, i mean banned himself from winning big amounts in casinos. For me that ban move is like talking to a doctor to treat his addiction in gambling, gradual withdrawal from it as abrupt may cause mental concerns on him.

I think he already has one of the mental illnesses. Allowing yourself to play in a casino and not picking up your winnings is crazy. He will be in endless depression, realizing what he could do with the winnings. If he had already taken the step of abandoning the game, then it would be more logical not to approach it. But the guy seems to have a diagnosis that constantly forces him to pick at his wound more and more.

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Haven't you heard of self-exclusion in gambling?
What the OP explained is different from self-exclusion. You do not need to go to gaming commission or something like for self-exclusion. You can go for self-exclusion on the gambling site and enable it for certain period of time that you want. Although, what OP explained is similar to self-exclusion. There is nothing like you to pay anything if you have gone for self-exclusion and violet the rules by gambling. Only what would be done is that you will nit be able to access gambling on the site that you enabled self-exclusion and nothing more than that.

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In my opinion, this gambler did not do enough to protect himself from gambling, because if he has a desire he can easily get to another city and gamble there. Or he will register in one of the casinos where he has not gambled before and will spend money again. In my opinion he needs to fight the cause - gambling addiction - not try to close the doors of the casino.

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December 11, 2023, 11:21:03 AM
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I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

Surprisingly i haven't heard of this happening in my country, I believe it is happening in most of the countries. If it is allowed in my country i believe majority of people have stop gambling so far, I don't think I will stop gambling the way he did, because no matter what happens, if you have ever gambled and then stop for a while, you will eventually miss the time you spent with your friends when you feel like you could be having fun again. I know it's best to stop gambling when one is becoming addicted to it, the most important thing is to do whatever is necessary for you to stop. If it is best for him to do so, it is well good, but i won't do it, there are numerous steps to follow and stop gambling for a while, not to ban my name from it in that way.

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December 11, 2023, 11:29:36 AM
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What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

Weird strategy but as what you said that he succeeded on stopping himself to gamble then that was a heroic move on his part because the main objective has been achieved and hope he is now happy on his gambling-free life.

I just wonder on how he did it, i mean banned himself from winning big amounts in casinos. For me that ban move is like talking to a doctor to treat his addiction in gambling, gradual withdrawal from it as abrupt may cause mental concerns on him.

I really salute this gambling company. Who bravely provides services for someone to stop gambling addiction. In my country it's like a smoking cessation service 😅

A strategic and mutually beneficial step. For gambling companies, this is a kind of marketing system and for someone who wants this service, this is the right place.

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Never heard of this story before but if this exists then that guy did himself a favor by actually requesting the casino to self-exclude him. Well, if there are features like this that we can see online then it's possible to ask and request this on physical casinos. I don't know how can that guy be a hero if he's just into himself but can be said that he's a hero on his own by doing such things.

Anyway, let's just have it this way anything that you do for yourself to help you get out of addiction is a good step. Whether it's something crazy like this or even crazier, as long as you're trying hard and helping yourself out then that's the best thing that you're doing because you are initiating things. As they say, if it works then it's not stupid at all, right?

What can be other crazy ways of stopping oneself from addiction? I'm thinking of a lot of gamblers who are dealing with addiction and doing odd but effective ways to help themselves. It is a tough battle to fight your own addiction because there's no one there that's going to do it for you and no other people but you alone can do it.

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What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?
This is a good story, but I don't really think this happened, it's just that the object has a ban and will eventually be broken, and that moment will be when all good stories are thrown into the trash.

Being able to overcome instincts is not easy, and those who can do that always deserve to be honored, and imo it is absolutely right to consider that person a hero. I personally know that with gambling, I sometimes try not to be disappointed with the results, but it's true that betting brings mixed feelings to me. Turning myself into an addict is a stupid thing that I accept, and there is no justification for it, so for those who step in and get out, that bravery is very strong.

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December 11, 2023, 12:03:16 PM
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What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?
This is a good story, but I don't really think this happened, it's just that the object has a ban and will eventually be broken, and that moment will be when all good stories are thrown into the trash.

Being able to overcome instincts is not easy, and those who can do that always deserve to be honored, and imo it is absolutely right to consider that person a hero. I personally know that with gambling, I sometimes try not to be disappointed with the results, but it's true that betting brings mixed feelings to me. Turning myself into an addict is a stupid thing that I accept, and there is no justification for it, so for those who step in and get out, that bravery is very strong.

first and foremost, can the OP give us the link of that story? so at least we have idea if it is just a made up one. i have never heard of a gambling authority to really implement such action. let alone, a gambler who really did such extent of banning himself to the casinos by restricting himself to the amount of possible winnings.

but if this story was true, i believe that person is thanking himself for making this decision towards gambling. if this can be done, gambling addicts who want to truly change should let their family know about this possible solution. a hard way but it may address their financial troubles and other possible worst nightmares that they will encounter if not taken care of.


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December 11, 2023, 12:12:33 PM
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What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

This is useless already due to the existence of online casino. I’m not sure either the credibility of the story because there’s no such thing on my country that let you voluntarily list your name to be ban on all casino in your country unless you do something terrible that violate the casino rules but the restrictions will be limited to the specific casino that you made a violation.

As I said above. There’s a lot of ways to play gambling now without relying on IRL casino. I’m not saying it’s a fool move but rather a useless move.

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December 11, 2023, 12:19:35 PM
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Wait....I don't fully understand the story. He banned himself from gambling, but he was still able to gamble. Additionally, you mentioned that when he gambles, he wouldn't be paid if he wins big, or he would only be paid a maximum of $200.

Does this mean that the casino is allowing him to bet big but would only pay a maximum of $200? Nah, this seems unusual, it could suggest that the casino might be cheating him, or perhaps he fabricated the story. Which is the case?



Tell him to play online, no more banning would happen even if he is too good, unless he's cheating.

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