Why do we spam

[Renampun]

From the beginning I was wondering why people spam and I have not find any reason, do we think that spamming have any important effects to our account or its something that is being done intentional or unintentional, do we think from the theory of personification  what causes a spamming is when theirs a particular quota that we have to ascertain that make some of us to spam in order to complete our weekly quota or it's something that is being done willingly.

Do you know that base on a research and observation in the forum I have not seen a clear advantage of spamming, and I have not seen any new accounts that is not in a signature campaign that is being tag because of spamming or have a challenge of spamming before why?

So I think that majorly the people that spam mostly is people that is controlling a numerous of account's and whenever they have a different account's they start writing a low quality post, I don't know if any one have observed that before, that what causes a low quality of posts and spamming might be due to alts, its better time to spread this information so that my own mates in the forum will not have same mindset  of spamming and low writing style.

In fact, your claim will not be accepted well, there must be proof that confirms that the members who spam have multiple accounts. In fact, from what I've noticed, the members who often spam are members who really have the goal of polluting this forum, like they want to cheat or they have other agendas in this forum. but there are several sections that are allowed for spam posts there, that is the WO thread (if you don't believe it then look at that thread). In conclusion, spam is only allowed in certain sections or threads.

[Fiatless]

From the beginning I was wondering why people spam and I have not find any reason, do we think that spamming have any important effects to our account or its something that is being done intentional or unintentional, do we think from the theory of personification  what causes a spamming is when theirs a particular quota that we have to ascertain that make some of us to spam in order to complete our weekly quota or it's something that is being done willingly.

OP you asked a question and gave about two correct answers to the question. Some of the answers you gave for the reason for spamming are
1. to fulfill post quota especially for those in signature campaigns.
2. having more than one account which leads to a reduction of post quality.

Spamming could also be as result of a lack of knowledge and experience. Most people don't want to invest time in learning about Bitcoin and the forum so they end up posting off-point posts. I have seen some accounts that are not in any signature campaign. This might be the set of uninformed forum members.

[Mate2237]

There are different ways one can Spam and not only low quality post but in your thread you only talked about low quality post. One can Spam by repeating what others have said, and unnecessary posts. In most cases people spam unaware. What I mean by unaware is that, they don't know if their write up is spamming the board or the thread. There some threads that have or contain 100 lines or 500 characters yet it is a spam post therefore spam post is not necessarily that contains few characters. There are some post that have few characters but it is high quality.

Then another thing that can also cause spamming is from the campaign managers. The more they increased the number of posts in a week the more the quality reduce. And that doesn't necessarily because the person has two or more account. Remember most people are working in the real life in government or private businesses so they are always busy with business activities in real life so they only visit the forum when they chanced.

[Sandra_hakeem]

Why do we spam?? Are you asking to know cause you feel spamming is a better option to gain recognition or what?.. I don't get..

do we think that spamming have any important effects to our account or its something that is being done intentional or unintentional, do we think from the theory of personification

it's definitely done intentionally in most cases - any account that's tagged with spamming under proper scruntiny would definitely have a whole bunch of other accounts behind it...but, I was a bit lost here; what do you mean by the theory of personification?

So I think that majorly the people that spam mostly is people that is controlling a numerous of account's and whenever they have a different account's they start writing a low quality post

I consider this particular post as nothing way better than what you decribed in the context; so can I safely ASSUME that you've got several accounts on board? Which could be the reason why you write post that are badly constructed, without any insight?? ....You don't just base your objections that way...

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[lovesmayfamilis]

OP, it’s good that you put the word "we" that is, you include yourself in the person who sends spam. That's right. When every person begins to understand this, firstly, he must start with himself. Turning to himself, “Why am I doing this? Am I in a hurry? I don’t know the topic they’re talking about, and therefore I’m in a hurry to at least insert my twenty cents?". After all, many topics on the forum appear day after day, and we still repeat and repeat the same thing.
Everyone must answer for themselves and not tell everyone what they need to do.
And if you are the OP and you suspect someone of alternative accounts, it’s easier to prove it and submit it for consideration than to torment yourself with guesses that have no weight behind them.

Learning is a continuous process

[Kelward]

Spamming is not done by only forum members in signature campaign but also newbies who want to comment on topics that they have no idea on, because they want to be noticed. It is better that you don't comment on discussion that you have no idea on and let go of it. Sometimes it is better read than post.

Spamming is also done to farm merits, but the one that baffles me most are those members with different alts that spam, if they can't make quality post with those alts, it means that they are not qualified to have an alt, so they should only stick to one account to bring out the best in them.

There is really no genuine reason to spam in the forum, because we have numerous boards, therefore if a member can not actively perticipate in a topic, what the member has to do is try another topic or board. We have boards in the forum that discusses topics that are unrelated to crypto matters, so if a member is not knowledgeable about cryptocurrency, at least there must be a board in the forum that the member can relate to while waiting for a topic in Bitcoin or altcoins that they can make quality posts. So spamming in this forum that has thousands of topics to choose from is very unfair.

[Out of mind]

Most of the time we find that new users are the only spammers. And those new users may not know that doing these things will cause their accounts to face problems and their accounts may get banned. If they knew about such issues, then they would definitely stay away from spamming, and they would never post and spam forums using AI in various ways. Some people do, but they learn from that lesson in future and avoid such mistakes, and they don't plan to make such mistakes in future. Again some people come who do spam intentionally and their account face loss in future, and they fall into huge losses. That's why it's best for yourself and your account to stay away from this type of spamming.

[Asiska02]

Do you know that base on a research and observation in the forum I have not seen a clear advantage of spamming, and I have not seen any new accounts that is not in a signature campaign that is being tag because of spamming or have a challenge of spamming before why?

Attention is being paid by forum members to those that are in signature campaigns than those that are not participating in any. Spamming is not only done by those in signature campaigns but can be done by anyone in the forum. Those in signature campaigns are often watched to avoid spamming by their managers or other members in the campaign that are aware that the user much meet a certain criteria before they can be paid out in their campaigns. So if you watch closely and decide to look out on spammers in the forum, you’ll catch more people that are not in any campaign spamming also. Some do it due to their nature and they just want to post even when they have nothing good to say about the topic.

Spamming is mainly done by most users without realizing it.  Because they don't know enough about this forum, the posts they make have the appearance of spamming.  Others post too quickly to meet the signature requirement, which is considered spamming.  Spammers don't care if their posts are spamming.  Again there are some users who keep spamming to down this forum.  So everyone's reason for spamming is not always the same

Posting too quickly to meet the signature campaign requirements shouldn’t be considered as spamming when the post are on point and are passing a good message. Some users often spend more time on a particular post until they understand what the OP is saying before they will make comment on it while some people get a grasp of the topic very quickly and it tends to make them reply faster than others. Low quality post that is passing an information that is irrelevant to the topic of discussion should be more considered as spamming and not user posting more frequently should be seen as one. The brain works differently and people understand and respond to things faster than each other.

[Mr.right85]

Why you (OP) might have centered your research on the forum, it’s evident to know that, people spam not just because it’s something burn out of will but, to archive a purpose. That purpose directly or indirectly becomes the driving force.
Not all accounts on the forum are involved or n a signature campaign but still, you could find them spamming. Why?
The need to stay active becomes the driving force behind this but, be can stay active without spamming so, why then do they spam? It’s simple;
They spam because they’ve got no value to contribute but simply a need to stay active or archive a purpose. That shouldn’t be the case but, it’s often what we see around.

Some others aren’t just into writing or haven’t got the skills for articulation or coming up with some good literal piece but, being on an educative platform and the need go always put something out there, they just can’t help it.

While this might not be the better means to repose, you could always learn. Most big changes in life is acquired by learning. Give it some devotion and you just might be good.

[Zigabel]

One fact about spamming is that some persons spam without even knowing that they are already spamming, I would rather you educate people on what spam post are and how they should avoid postings that could be considered spamming, especially newbies who are very eager to grow exponentially, they spamming sometimes without knowing and just so you know, a critical examination of spam post will prove that a good percentage of some post could fall into this category and some of the posters are not aware they are spam posters.

Having a pattern of posting and a deep knowledge of what you are posting about is a good way to avoiding your post been seen as spam post, if you can maintain your quality most often then you can be sure to a very good extent not to be a spammer, an educative thread on what a spam post is will help better.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

From the beginning I was wondering why people spam and I have not find any reason, do we think that spamming have any important effects to our account or its something that is being done intentional or unintentional, do we think from the theory of personification  what causes a spamming is when theirs a particular quota that we have to ascertain that make some of us to spam in order to complete our weekly quota or it's something that is being done willingly.

What causes spamming prior to the introduction of the merit system was because of people farming activities as they could rank up multiple accounts by just causing a nuisance on the forum but since the introduction of the merit system and activity only no longer improves your rank, the reason for spamming has changed, people spam because they want to meet weekly quota or they're hurting for merits. They think the more they write the greater their chances of getting merited as they have more contents out. People spam as a result of not understanding the discussion they're engaging with but just want to write something because their campaign say they should in order to get paid.

So I think that majorly the people that spam mostly is people that is controlling a numerous of account's and whenever they have a different account's they start writing a low quality post.

They can't do that in high paying campaign but only in bounties, if anybody is caught spamming, it's best they get reported to the campaign manager so they can get kicked out of the campaign for other people with better things to say to get a chance of earning while they contribute positively to the forum. The forum isn't against alts that aren't breaking any forum rules so let say you have multiple accounts and you can contribute to the forum without spamming, nobody will question you but if you're spamming with an excuse of having more than one account then you deserve to get both accounts tagged at least with a neutral to reduce your chances of getting accepted into a new campaign and disturbing the forum with your spams.

[Adbitco]

If i am not mistaken there is a topic created to judge the overall performance of the system now that merits system has been introduced and people said it is more better now and the rate of spam has reduced, i don't know where OP got his spam post from and besides there is a section he can quickly report any post that he finds no efforts instead of saying that.. Okay how did he know about people having multiple account if i may ask? There have been a room for you to report post and believe me or not there are other members that report spam post or plagiarism content that is why you need to look into that section to know amount of people being reported on a regular basis due to spam post or plagiarized contents.

[Shishir99]

So I think that majorly the people that spam mostly is people that is controlling a numerous of account's and whenever they have a different account's they start writing a low quality post, I don't know if any one have observed that before, that what causes a low quality of posts and spamming might be due to alts, its better time to spread this information so that my own mates in the forum will not have same mindset  of spamming and low writing style.

You asked the question and you answered it too. Yes, I have to agree that people have alt accounts and are enrolled in signature campaigns, which is the reason for generating spam. If you check the gambling section, where people write nonsense they are getting paid for it. Merit systems were introduced to reduce spam and it worked well. However, it is the signature campaign managers' duty they appoint for their signature campaign. I saw they hire members who have earned at least 5 merits in the last 120 days which I consider is the worst requirement.

Any member who is active in the forum should have earned at least 20 merits in the last 120 days. If they cannot, they should be kicked out. I see a lot of accounts who joined the campaign years ago and they have not earned much merit since then. But, they are still in the campaign. As long as they are on the campaign and getting paid for generating spam, they won't stop buddy! Managers could help a lot if they want.

[pakhitheboss]

You asked the question and you answered it too. Yes, I have to agree that people have alt accounts and are enrolled in signature campaigns, which is the reason for generating spam.

So, you mean all signature campaigns are the reason for the spam in the forum? According to what you have written above it means that all campaign manager encourage spam as they allow alts to be part of their campaign. According to your reasoning, the managers are just allowing such guys to earn and spam the forum without checking a user's way of writing, or timing of writing and they are unable to understand the writing pattern before selecting a user.

What I wrote is still debatable, but a manager can remove any participant from their campaign without giving any notice to them. According to your statement, they are not doing it as the signature campaign is the reason for spam here. Thanks for enlightening everyone with your valuable feedback. I guess the signature campaign manager for your campaign needs to look into such replies of yours. Your logic and your spam reply is an evidence of how users like you come up suddenly, join a campaign, and then start spamming the forum.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

However, it is the signature campaign managers' duty they appoint for their signature campaign. I saw they hire members who have earned at least 5 merits in the last 120 days which I consider is the worst requirement.

How is it the worst requirement when we have users that are producing quality contributions but aren't getting merits. We have people that takes earning of merits as a duty but we also have those that don't put too much attention on receiving merits yet they're not spammers. Some accounts has earned merits more than those that are contributing positively to the forum but that doesn't mean they're more of a quality poster. Boards that you're active in has a big role in the amount of merits that you'll receive considering both accounts are on the same level of quality. Don't use merit to judge the quality of an account as those with less merits can be a more quality posters than those with merit especially in the recent 120days.

Any member who is active in the forum should have earned at least 20 merits in the last 120 days. If they cannot, they should be kicked out. I see a lot of accounts who joined the campaign years ago and they have not earned much merit since then. But, they are still in the campaign. As long as they are on the campaign and getting paid for generating spam, they won't stop buddy! Managers could help a lot if they want.

How does earning 20 merit in the last 120 days qualify you as a quality posters? Just because a user haven't earned merits doesn't warrant him to be kicked out of a campaign and I'm glad managers aren't actively implementing that strategy as it'll only bring chaos to the forum. People will start doing unethical things to meet the requirements. Your post quality should be judged by your actual post quality and not merits. A users can be a spammer yet drop one quality topic and get alot of merits, keeping that user in a campaign over the other quality users just because he has more merit won't be a fair criteria.

[Saint-loup]

TBH I think spamming is mostly done by people who bought accounts while not knowing Bitcoin and cryptos very deeply. And unfortunately some bounty managers are not able to fill all the spots of their campaigns with quality members, so they accept sometimes people posting rather low quality posts. There are also people giving merits to their friends while knowing they don't deserve it. We have even seen posting farms from third world countries sadly. It leads to be unable to discuss with other people in some sections or to find interesting informations sadly.

[Distinctin]

Spamming has always been a red flag in the forum. People resort into spamming certainly because they're unaware that they're already spamming in the forum. They will only say they are only doing their part in the forum, without assessing their posts if they still have quality contents or they only fall into low quality posts that made them spammers in the forum.

While spamming is highly discouraged in the forum, but maybe it's easier being said than done since a lot of us still end up spamming without us knowing.

[nakamura12]

Spamming has always been a red flag in the forum. People resort into spamming certainly because they're unaware that they're already spamming in the forum. They will only say they are only doing their part in the forum, without assessing their posts if they still have quality contents or they only fall into low quality posts that made them spammers in the forum.

While spamming is highly discouraged in the forum, but maybe it's easier being said than done since a lot of us still end up spamming without us knowing.

That's not just the reason why people spam in the forum because some people are posting in order to reach the required post count to be eligible to get paid even though they know that they are spamming and some are also not aware that they are spamming in the forum. Some people might say that those people who are spamming where their accounts are bought but not all spammers bought their account because some of them are starting from newbie rank although it was before the merit system is implemented. Before, people can create account and just post what they want until the activity count reached the required activity points needed to reach a certain rank but as you have know that this time merit is also needed to rank up.

[SatoPrincess]

Merit systems were introduced to reduce spam and it worked well. However, it is the signature campaign managers' duty they appoint for their signature campaign. I saw they hire members who have earned at least 5 merits in the last 120 days which I consider is the worst requirement.

You can’t put the blame on campaign managers. I have worked on many campaigns with different campaign managers and I can tell you that no CM wants a spammer on his team. I noticed CMs always take note of the quality of participants before acceptance and during their time in the campaign. Reputable CMs do not reward low quality posts, they do not count them as eligible and will leave a side note on the spreadsheet to let you know you need to improve your post quality.

Competition for signature positions is tight and CMs only pick the best of the best. If you’re getting paid, it’s expected that you give your best. Of course there are certain campaigns that care about quantity more than quality. Most of the accounts who wear the signature & avatar of such campaigns are alt accounts or accounts that normally would not make it into a good campaign.

[Wakate]

So I think that majorly the people that spam mostly is people that is controlling a numerous of account's and whenever they have a different account's they start writing a low quality post, I don't know if any one have observed that before, that what causes a low quality of posts and spamming might be due to alts, its better time to spread this information so that my own mates in the forum will not have same mindset  of spamming and low writing style.

You can't conclude that the reason why people spam is because they have multiple accounts. This is irrational and does not work like that. Your sense should tell you that there are people that are just lazy to type whether they are interested to create multiple accounts or not. Some few spammers that I know are not even in any signature campaign or whatsoever. At first you have to define what you meant by spam so that we can have a clear view of your perspectives about Spamming.
After that, we can move to the contention to truly know how to indicate and conclude that someone is spamming. Another thing I would like to ask you. Is spamming limited to people that are in signature campaign only or general?