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December 13, 2023, 08:45:43 PM
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We know that gambling can be very addictive for people who might not be going about it responsibly and that if most beginner are not properly guided by experienced individual that have heard a share of their personal experience in irresponsible gambling,  they will become a victim of gambling addiction and might have a marred thought process as it regards safe gambling

 so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.

I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be giving.

I don't think we need that kind of sub-boards though. Yes, we have a dedicated gambling thread here, and bitcoin first root or it's first use case is through gambling. But I don't think that this is purely dedicated to gambling, there are investors and I think there's a lot of responsible gamblers here.

So this might be for a good cause, but Theymos might not approved of this. Besides, in this board we can discuss everything under the sun, including gambling addiction and others and members are giving those who seek help a good advise already.

@Zoomic and just like the B&H board, there was also a request to deal with securities and other stuff, but so far it hasn't been approved if I remember it correctly, Discussion: "Cybersecurity and Privacy" board + Poll (request v1)
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December 13, 2023, 08:55:21 PM
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Correct me if I am wrong ..
There are series of post that has talked about gambling addiction and how to gamble responsible or how to equip yourself before finally involving oneself into gambling to avoid gambling addiction. I think there are plenty content related to that if I am not mistakenly there was a day I tried finding out some useful information about gambling it was then I noticed that this section has been flooded with all many of post concerning gambling it's just left for you to use the search option to know what you want or what kind of information you needed related to gambling.
I know related topics like this has been made,and so many people have spoken about it,which is to say that there are informations that can guild one on this,but nevertheless,for Newbies to avoid  making mistakes and stories that touches,they must come in contact with informations like this,and useful advice that people have given which will further enlighten them on the the topics they seek.
But if I am to give any advice to a newbie on this topic,it will be on how to set your mind while gambling,and what to know about gambling.It is very vital to know that gambling is not a guarantee source of money,because it is risky,and only those who have determined to take the risk can stand the chance of winning.

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December 13, 2023, 09:20:31 PM
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Getting advice from non experts can lead to some harmful circumstances.

If someone comes to the point of being a problem gambler and facing addiction, it's always best to seek accredited help from professionals, join group therapy in a recognized organization etc.

So I don't think it would be a good idea to create such section of the forum. Let alone all the promotion and interests going on here. For problem gsmblers it's best to abstain.

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December 13, 2023, 09:49:14 PM
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Although this is a very commendable suggestion that should be looked into, I don't think that it is necessary to create a full sub board to addressing the issue of responsible gambling. What we should be looking out for should to create a thread that is well detailed and contains guide and regulations that will encourage responsible gambling and then it could just be pinned at the top of this gambling board for all members to go through and engage in positively.

If you've observed the post we have on the board, you will find a lot of them that had address the issue of responsible gambling and some has outlined guide and details that will help one not to get addicted into gambling and I feel that if you keenly go through them, you should gain the needed knowledge you require and their won't be a serious need for the creation of sub board.

My humble opinion though.

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December 13, 2023, 09:51:45 PM
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I don't believe beginners need guidance and tutors when it comes to gambling. As long as they are in the right mind and discipline, they will learn things on their own. I've never had anyone to teach me about being a responsible gambler, it's just there because I was raised like that.
Here is the real problem, most new gamblers came from this era where the traditional discipline is gone. Military discipline. Even if a person didn't come from a military family. I don't see that much anymore and parents who use that method are certainly slowly diminishing as time flies by. Most kids today are spoiled brats, I can say it because I can see it from my kids. They are greedy and they cry with a little bit of a problem and that's where the real problem will come when they start gambling.

About creating a thread about explaining this to newbies, well, you could've done that instead of this. You don't really need our permission because anyone can create their own thread but the gambling discussions are certainly pouring with lots of talks about gambling addiction and other stuff about it. And I won't worry about members who will share their knowledge because there are good members here scattered all over the forum.

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December 13, 2023, 10:25:07 PM
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Although this is a very commendable suggestion that should be looked into, I don't think that it is necessary to create a full sub board to addressing the issue of responsible gambling. What we should be looking out for should to create a thread that is well detailed and contains guide and regulations that will encourage responsible gambling and then it could just be pinned at the top of this gambling board for all members to go through and engage in positively.

If you've observed the post we have on the board, you will find a lot of them that had address the issue of responsible gambling and some has outlined guide and details that will help one not to get addicted into gambling and I feel that if you keenly go through them, you should gain the needed knowledge you require and their won't be a serious need for the creation of sub board.

My humble opinion though.
True! There's no need to create a section or sub-threat in this forum about what the OP's concerned about, because if you look around this gambling discussion section, you will see a lot of topics about gambling addiction, how to stop gambling addiction, discipline towards gambling, and many more related to gambling and addiction to it, so there's no need to sweat. In fact, in this section of the forum, the "gambling discussion," most of the topics are about that concern, so even without other sections, you will see different stories or shares of experience about how they've gone through gambling addiction.

And also, even with creating a separate section about gambling addiction, you are not sure if all the stories are true. I also notice that some of the topics about gambling experience are hard to believe and sound like make-up stories, so imagine a section in the forum full of scripted experiences about gambling addiction.

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December 13, 2023, 10:25:44 PM
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In my opinion, I think it is unnecessary to create a thread about this, I have this opinion because it is unlikely that people will play in a moderate way, responsibly just because they read on this forum that they need to play in moderation. people play because they see other people who play and post photos of them winning a lot, so it would be difficult to convince people with just words, I'll give an example, let's imagine that in this forum they have a section that warns people about responsible gambling and the consequences of playing irresponsibly and with money that you cannot afford to lose

so people will read this and they will be scared and they will be playing responsibly, but when they look at a video of someone saying that they put 500$ in the casino and played to the point of making 10,000$ in profit, then at the same time those people who If they read about responsible gaming, they will forget everything they read and will start playing a lot to make a lot of money. If one day we asked 1000 people a question and asked them to answer honestly and without fear of someone criticizing them, we would ask them: why do they play?

I believe the answer to this question will be: they play because they dream of winning a lot of money. in the same way that people keep buying lottery tickets in the hope that one day they will get the winning ticket and become very rich, and the same thing that many people hope for when they play in a physical casino or when they play in an online casino, just see that sports bettors prefer to keep making multibet bets with very high odds because that way when they get something right they will be able to win a lot of money, in my country for example bettors have prioritized multibet bets with very high odds, they prefer to constantly lose by keeping multibet bets, but they believe that the day they get it right it will pay off

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December 13, 2023, 11:10:01 PM
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Correct me if I am wrong ..
There are series of post that has talked about gambling addiction and how to gamble responsible or how to equip yourself before finally involving oneself into gambling to avoid gambling addiction. I think there are plenty content related to that if I am not mistakenly there was a day I tried finding out some useful information about gambling it was then I noticed that this section has been flooded with all many of post concerning gambling it's just left for you to use the search option to know what you want or what kind of information you needed related to gambling.
I know related topics like this has been made,and so many people have spoken about it,which is to say that there are informations that can guild one on this,but nevertheless,for Newbies to avoid  making mistakes and stories that touches,they must come in contact with informations like this,and useful advice that people have given which will further enlighten them on the the topics they seek.
But if I am to give any advice to a newbie on this topic,it will be on how to set your mind while gambling,and what to know about gambling.It is very vital to know that gambling is not a guarantee source of money,because it is risky,and only those who have determined to take the risk can stand the chance of winning.

Use your own common sense and you would be safe because if you dont make yourself that too mindful with the actions you are making then you are really that susceptible into the things like
addiction on which you would really be that impulsive on the time that you are dealing with it and this is something that must be avoided. New gamblers or players would really be commonly be experiencing that kind of emotion and mindset on which it is normal that we would really be somewhat delusional when it comes to motives and aims.
Gambling isnt bad as long you do make yourself that responsible on the actions that you are making.

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December 13, 2023, 11:56:41 PM
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Yes it would help but it just depends to the gamblers whether they would be having the initiative to interact in such board in this forum. If it is just discussions, there are too many to engage however if you just feel like you don't then you won't. There are even articles outside this forum, warnings we see from different platforms, but why do people still become a victim of gambling addiction? 'coz things won't work that way. Instead of  asking such discussion about how to escape from addiction, we should be more preventive of the exposure.But again, if the gambler is not as willing as with us, then no action will make sense 'coz they will just continue doing their thing until they reach addiction on their own. Things are in our hands.

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December 14, 2023, 01:24:45 AM
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I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be giving.

I don't think that having a board dedicated to helping newbies avoid gambling addiction is wrong but it is not very important. I don't also think there is any week that a topic about gambling addiction is not discussed in the gambling section. If the newbie constantly visits this section, I don't think he will be a victim of gambling addiction. New gamblers could also use the search option in the forum to gather relevant information on how to gamble responsibly. In this current computer age, information can be derived from the internet with ease. People should also be willing to take time to research any activity they wish to engage in. The basic information on how to avoid gambling addiction is very simple and these principles can be found in almost all the gambling discussions in this forum. However, the suggestion of OP is also valid.

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December 14, 2023, 01:40:03 AM
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Correct me if I am wrong ..
There are series of post that has talked about gambling addiction and how to gamble responsible or how to equip yourself before finally involving oneself into gambling to avoid gambling addiction. I think there are plenty content related to that if I am not mistakenly there was a day I tried finding out some useful information about gambling it was then I noticed that this section has been flooded with all many of post concerning gambling it's just left for you to use the search option to know what you want or what kind of information you needed related to gambling.
I know related topics like this has been made,and so many people have spoken about it,which is to say that there are informations that can guild one on this,but nevertheless,for Newbies to avoid  making mistakes and stories that touches,they must come in contact with informations like this,and useful advice that people have given which will further enlighten them on the the topics they seek.
But if I am to give any advice to a newbie on this topic,it will be on how to set your mind while gambling,and what to know about gambling.It is very vital to know that gambling is not a guarantee source of money,because it is risky,and only those who have determined to take the risk can stand the chance of winning.

Use your own common sense and you would be safe because if you dont make yourself that too mindful with the actions you are making then you are really that susceptible into the things like
addiction on which you would really be that impulsive on the time that you are dealing with it and this is something that must be avoided. New gamblers or players would really be commonly be experiencing that kind of emotion and mindset on which it is normal that we would really be somewhat delusional when it comes to motives and aims.
Gambling isnt bad as long you do make yourself that responsible on the actions that you are making.

It's true, many of them gamble so much that they lose their minds and make them addicted to gambling. of course, gambling addiction is not a good thing, because most people who are addicted to gambling will experience many harmful things such as major money, health, relationships and time. especially with new gamblers, maybe they will get a win at the beginning where this victory makes them excited about gambling and usually this initial victory is easy to get.

A new gambler also usually in my opinion they will follow their greed, where in the next gamble they are likely to lose and this makes them gamble again because they follow their own feelings of greed, emotion and curiosity. and this is likely to make every new gambler addicted. it's true what you said, gambling is not wrong if we have responsibility and limits on the actions we take.

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December 14, 2023, 02:21:12 AM
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so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.
As I see, it's really hard that new boards or sub-boards are created on this forum. Personally, I've already suggested the creation of a sub-board years ago, and I had massive negative replies to my proposal. What happens is that forum members think it's good how it already is, without removing or adding anything.

Regards your suggestion, it could be easily said that we already have gambling board and gambling discussion sub-board, which are sections where the matters of responsible gambling, mental health orientations on gambling practices, challenges and personal experiences faced by gamblers, ethics on gambling industry and so on can be discussed (and in fact, they currently are).

Maybe for a matter of organization your idea is good, but it's really unlikely you would have support from other members, especially staff ones, to do so.

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December 14, 2023, 04:24:36 AM
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We know that gambling can be very addictive for people who might not be going about it responsibly and that if most beginner are not properly guided by experienced individual that have heard a share of their personal experience in irresponsible gambling,  they will become a victim of gambling addiction and might have a marred thought process as it regards safe gambling

 so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.

I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be giving.
It seems like there is no need to create a thread or sub-board about gambling responsibly because there have been many threads discussing this for a long time and for me, even if there is a sub-board that provides education about gambling responsibly, it will only be in vain because all of this is just about how the mindset of a gambler and when a novice gambler comes to gambling just wanting to try his luck and already knows how gambling works I think novice gamblers will not suffer from the bad effects of gambling but if a novice gambler comes to gambling only with the hope of doubling their money and without any knowledge of course he will continue to gamble recklessly without thinking about what gambling responsibly is.
beginner gamblers should be aware before doing anything, at least find out about something they want to do, such as if they want to gamble, they should find out what the risks of gambling are, whether they always win or always lose and look for things like this, you can use a search engine, type in keywords and everything. already there he can understand it in several of these articles.

I really understand your good intentions in helping other people by making a thread like that, but as I said, it all depends on each person mindset, even if you have read the thread, if your mind is already curious, you will definitely ignore the thread you are going to make, and my suggestion is that you dont you need to do anything, just always tell anyone who asks you to explain before starting gambling about the negative effects of gambling.

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 ..so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.

I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be giving.

For every discussion here there will always pop up a discussion about mental health and a guide to avoiding gambling we have so many threads about this and it is part of the gambling discussion too, if we create another sub-board we will have many of same topics, and on gambling discussions and your proposed mental orientation, so I don't there's a need for that and besides this forum is all about talks about Bitcoin, it just so happen that casinos are using Bitcoin, so we have a board for gambling.
There are a lot of repetitive discussions here on this board adding one more board we will have two topics of the same kind of the two boards so there's no need and it's useless.

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We know that gambling can be very addictive for people who might not be going about it responsibly and that if most beginner are not properly guided by experienced individual that have heard a share of their personal experience in irresponsible gambling,  they will become a victim of gambling addiction and might have a marred thought process as it regards safe gambling
Creating a request for an additional subboard should be requested in the meta section but I don't recommend that you move or create a thread for your request because it will not be welcome, because the gambling section is full of redundant topics and discussion

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so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.
We have hundreds of threads for this and every week there's always a discussion about mental health and gambling concerns sometimes there are topics about sports betting and dice games that will direct to topics about mental health and gambling concerns it will just mess up the whole board so we are already good that we have two boards, adding more will mess up everything.

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I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be given.
I discouraged this and I'm sure I'm not the only one besides, this is not a gambling forum it's a Bitcoin forum.

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December 14, 2023, 10:01:34 AM
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Getting advice from non experts can lead to some harmful circumstances.

If someone comes to the point of being a problem gambler and facing addiction, it's always best to seek accredited help from professionals, join group therapy in a recognized organization etc.

So I don't think it would be a good idea to create such section of the forum. Let alone all the promotion and interests going on here. For problem gsmblers it's best to abstain.
This is probably the most accurate reply. Gambling addiction is real and is often paired with other mental illnesses that may or may not have led to becoming addicted to every available form—gambling, alcohol, you name it. First of all, I don't find it necessary; the discussion board is open to any kind of gambling-related topic, and I don't think there's a need for a separate section. Most importantly, though, mental illnesses and addictions are serious matters that require assistance from professionals. Although I believe that the majority of users here would have good intentions if something relevant was posted, it's a trivial matter that should be trusted to professionals; the wrong kind of advice can easily take a turn for the worse, and there's no need for that.

No need to mention anything regarding promotions and other interests as alani123 already mentioned, I think we all understand what is implied.

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December 14, 2023, 10:08:34 AM
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Getting advice from non experts can lead to some harmful circumstances.

If someone comes to the point of being a problem gambler and facing addiction, it's always best to seek accredited help from professionals, join group therapy in a recognized organization etc.

So I don't think it would be a good idea to create such section of the forum. Let alone all the promotion and interests going on here. For problem gsmblers it's best to abstain.


well said! for non experts, It's a little bit diffucult for us to give an advice because we are aware that every people has a different perspective, Challenges and problems and we can't assess that by simply listening to their stories. So, this public orientation idea is much better and helpful once implemented and I hope proffesional advice will be given since some people doesn't have much money for consultation and professional fee.,



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December 14, 2023, 10:27:38 AM
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so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.
That thread if it is ever created will be a place of spam. All that anyone need to know about gambling and how to gamble safely is here. The search button is a tool that if used effectively will provide links to all the topics on gambling and mental health, the stories that a beginner need to be aware of.

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December 14, 2023, 10:25:47 PM
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Since this suggestion has been raise severally and it has not been welcomed I will only have to suggest that if you sincerely want to do something good about mental health on gambling instead of creating a sub board, you can bring up all the threads that discussed about the mental health issues in a list and create an interesting thread to be pin here in gambling discussion.

Correct me if I am wrong ..
What do you mean by this? This is all you post. Or is this a mistake?
I guess his a fan of the great philosopher Socrates that claims the famous statement "I know not what means I know nothing". His trying to say his not perfect with that. Lol

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I don't think mental orientation is needed for new gamblers but rather is needed for both new and experienced gamblers who are deep down into addiction.They both need mental guide or some program where they both will be treated mentally in order to save themselves from this illness.

Public orientation is all over the place in the sense that everywhere,even when gambling sites make an ad on TV or radio they end it with gamble responsibly and generally in the public the perceived idea for gambling is bad so there is not much need for a public orientation,however if it can be improved it can do a better work for these type of gamblers.

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