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December 15, 2023, 01:19:14 PM
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Why should it need a separate board when there is not much to discuss about it? We don't have to discuss about gambling addiction everyday.

It is enough that gamblers are aware of the kind of illness they could get from uncontrolled gambling. I guess everybody knows about it. Even without being briefed on it by a professional, gamblers know that when they go beyond their limit, it could mean they lose a lot more than they thought. That's something every gambler has experienced. It's either they do something about it or it grow worse.
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December 15, 2023, 01:24:00 PM
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It might help at first but sooner or later, beginners will just ignore it again.

What if a casino site requires every gambler to read the beginners guidelines and instructions before they can use the platform? By doing this at least they spreading knowledge about gamblers and they can help beginners to actually understand gambling and how risky it is. This might be a big hassle at first but its impact can last forever.
This is a good suggestion and its like having a quiz first and you have to passed it before you can actually enjoy the whole features of the platform. If they will also asked questions about their rules and terms, I’m sure many gamblers will be forced to read it and they will be more aware about the casino itself. Having another section specifically for gambling here might not help at all, many will surely not talked about it especially if all about rules, suggestions and opinions because gamblers want to talk more about results and predictions here.

Yes, I also quite agree with that suggestion, basically in any case usually humans don't like the name of the rule, usually they will prefer to ignore it and don't care whether it is important or not. But if all the directions for an understanding in gambling are applied by force, with the scenario that if they do not read it correctly or cannot fill in the questions correctly then they will not be able to enter gambling to get involved.

It is quite difficult but usually everything starts with coercion which will make them feel forced and finally get used to it, with that method then I am sure that at least it can help to expand their understanding and insight into all the rules that exist in gambling, especially in terms of risk.

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December 15, 2023, 01:29:21 PM
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If you hold a poll here, the majority will not agree that we have another board here, it will mess up all the topics about gambling, some topics should be for the announcement but some members still create discussions about problems and strategies for gambling, it's enough that we have two boards other members will think that the gambling section is being given by the management too much attention for creating more boards for it.
Gambling boards are a busy section but we don't to add more to avoid spam and unnecessary discussions.
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December 15, 2023, 01:32:11 PM
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We know that gambling can be very addictive for people who might not be going about it responsibly and that if most beginner are not properly guided by experienced individual that have heard a share of their personal experience in irresponsible gambling,  they will become a victim of gambling addiction and might have a marred thought process as it regards safe gambling

 so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.

I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be giving.
Is this like a mentor who directs beginners to gamble with the guidance of certain people who are experienced? I don't think this will work, because generally novice gamblers want to explore each gambling game in their own way betting even aggressively. I have been in this position where there is a beginner who is gambling. I advise not to bet large amounts, direct him to games with minimum bets, but what is the answer? just keep quiet it's up to me to bet a large or small amount and don't interfere. Here it is clear that we cannot be involved in other people's gambling let alone give directions. Because for them it is considered a nuisance.

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December 15, 2023, 02:35:33 PM
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Nah. Do you honestly think a ragtag bunch of people in the internet would be a lot better in terms of mental health help in comparison to institutions with ample funding, people, and education (for helping and aiding in improving mental health)? Nah I don't think so. This forum can help with people releasing or telling their story, letting something off their chest but anything past that is rather unreliant to even be considered as a form of help. Sure, you can accept advice, but in the end it'd still need some sort or form of rumination, and not something you'd willingly accept unlike with professional help.

But well if it's just a hub for story telling, heck why not. Though to be fair, gambling discussion is already as such.

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December 15, 2023, 03:02:07 PM
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I believe that gambling addiction is self explanatory or educational. Whoever is visiting the game house and betting but losing yet kept visiting the place and betting without stopping knows that he is addicted and knows he should stop. If you are unable to stop while you want to stop then you already know you are addicted. So I don't think we need a different board on it, moreover there are different threads started whose contributions are always going towards addictions and what remedy to take.

Except there could be threads pinned on this board for easy access to learn what addiction.

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December 15, 2023, 03:15:09 PM
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We can just talk about it here in the Gambling Discussion and there's also the Off-Topic section so it's not really that important that we add another section, it's not like this is the go to website if you want to vent out something or seek some help in your mental health concerns. I don't think that there's a need for that kind of section. Just look at other unused boards out in the forum already, too saturated already of unused boards.

Regarding orientation for new gamblers, I don't think this is the right place for that one and I don't think we're going to even need one because people are already talking about learning about different gambling games here already, sometimes you just got to ask.
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We know that gambling can be very addictive for people who might not be going about it responsibly and that if most beginner are not properly guided by experienced individual that have heard a share of their personal experience in irresponsible gambling,  they will become a victim of gambling addiction and might have a marred thought process as it regards safe gambling

People get addicted to gambling based on how they view it. Even beginners, gambling doesn’t need a guide; you will be the one to guide yourself through. So I think people get addicted to gambling if they view it as a source of income that they will be using to meet their needs. You will see that those people are the ones that gamble every day or by any means just to get money and feed themselves and their families. However, some people gamble for fun and do not become addicted; these people do it with sense; they don’t just gamble for money.

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so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling,

If you have any educational resources for gambling addiction, drop them in the gambling discussion section. As you can see, the forum is well designed, and with a bunch of boards and topics, drop what you have on the board that will suit your content. I don’t think it’s necessary for us to have another additional board. If you drop it here, I think it will be better since it is also talking about gambling.

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December 15, 2023, 03:29:06 PM
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We know that gambling can be very addictive for people who might not be going about it responsibly and that if most beginner are not properly guided by experienced individual that have heard a share of their personal experience in irresponsible gambling,  they will become a victim of gambling addiction and might have a marred thought process as it regards safe gambling

 so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.

I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be giving.

Not necessarily, because the objective perspective of human cognitive psychology is different despite the general level of addiction, but within the problem of gambling addiction itself, there are many levels for us to discuss. I think I am better than those individuals who freely express their own opinions and listen to others' shares about distinguishing a reasonable direction for their lives to be able to escape the difficulties they encounter in gambling addiction.

And in fact, there are solutions shared a lot on the forum. I also speculate that the experience is very real, so please give an opinion that is close to reality. Just like how to treat a disease, we must know clearly what the problem is in order to come up with a treatment method, not simply a story about how many types of diseases they know.









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December 15, 2023, 03:46:24 PM
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I believe that gambling addiction is self explanatory or educational. Whoever is visiting the game house and betting but losing yet kept visiting the place and betting without stopping knows that he is addicted and knows he should stop. If you are unable to stop while you want to stop then you already know you are addicted. So I don't think we need a different board on it, moreover there are different threads started whose contributions are always going towards addictions and what remedy to take.

Except there could be threads pinned on this board for easy access to learn what addiction.

Maybe there are some people who feel that way, or I mean there are some gamblers who already know that they are addicted through some indications that they find and feel like what you said above which is "can't stop even though you want to stop", I think one of the problems is the emotional factor that cannot be controlled, maybe you also know that the most difficult thing in us is emotions when we are in a hot situation.

Some gamblers may be aware that they are addicted but if it is basically just a feeling about those who know that they are addicted I think it is still difficult to overcome, they will always say "one more time" just like that, that's what makes it difficult for gamblers to apply firmness to their limits and always violate them. Or it means that habits are very difficult to change if there is no coercion, and that's why there must be help from some other people even though it may be just a suggestion but it can also be said to have the opportunity to help, and also that's why there is a title about this in this forum, so you can't say that this forum will not be useful to help them get out of their addiction zone.

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December 15, 2023, 06:01:50 PM
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We can just talk about it here in the Gambling Discussion and there's also the Off-Topic section so it's not really that important that we add another section, it's not like this is the go to website if you want to vent out something or seek some help in your mental health concerns. I don't think that there's a need for that kind of section. Just look at other unused boards out in the forum already, too saturated already of unused boards.

Regarding orientation for new gamblers, I don't think this is the right place for that one and I don't think we're going to even need one because people are already talking about learning about different gambling games here already, sometimes you just got to ask.

The gambler who get affected mentally should keep them engaged with their like things.Most of the gamblers will do check of the vacations after their loss in the gambling site.The loss or win both was common in the gambling site,if you made the good win once.You should ready to face the loss in the next games.Based on margin loss or profit in the gambling sites,the next loss or the win was based on the previous game.The mathematics probability also depends on the game loss after the win and win after the loss in the gambling site.The vacational trip will be the better option for the gamblers to overcome mental pressure from the gambling site.
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We can just talk about it here in the Gambling Discussion and there's also the Off-Topic section so it's not really that important that we add another section, it's not like this is the go to website if you want to vent out something or seek some help in your mental health concerns. I don't think that there's a need for that kind of section. Just look at other unused boards out in the forum already, too saturated already of unused boards.

Regarding orientation for new gamblers, I don't think this is the right place for that one and I don't think we're going to even need one because people are already talking about learning about different gambling games here already, sometimes you just got to ask.

The gambler who get affected mentally should keep them engaged with their like things.Most of the gamblers will do check of the vacations after their loss in the gambling site.The loss or win both was common in the gambling site,if you made the good win once.You should ready to face the loss in the next games.Based on margin loss or profit in the gambling sites,the next loss or the win was based on the previous game.The mathematics probability also depends on the game loss after the win and win after the loss in the gambling site.The vacational trip will be the better option for the gamblers to overcome mental pressure from the gambling site.
Depends on what are the gambling games that you are dealing with, because if we do speak about those house games on which HE would really be that relevant and something inevitable on which means that playing on longer runs would eventually be making you as a loser no matter what.How much more if those RNG's would really be completely not favoring you? For sure you would really be seeing yourself on the loser side
but since this is gambling then loses are really just that part of the game and part of the thrill. As long you do make yourself that responsible on doing gambling then you wont really be putting up yourself on such great or big trouble.

If you do find yourself to be that stressful already on the things that you've been doing then it would really be just that right that you should really be that trying out to ease that kind of stress
and impulsive emotion because once you do lost up control or cool then this is where impulsive behavior would really be starting. Actually i dont really see about that mental section or
orientation to really be that be relevant because even just making realizations towards self should really be just that enough.

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December 15, 2023, 06:17:19 PM
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At this point I think whoever conceived this idea should be fast with it. I just read a thread topic where someone committed suicide after betting approximately $3k on sports betting.


What is the comparison between a loss of $3k and a human life.

I mean, don't people think? Could it have been the first betting experience the person had and maybe his life savings was used for it. Irrespective of what the terms and conditions are it was extremely an action for a failed bet.

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I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be giving.

We start from the experiences we have while we are still involved in gambling sessions, in fact even though that person has a long history with various experiences. but There is no real guarantee that someone is not an addict, in fact we ourselves know exactly what we have done in a gambling session, including the damage we have done. In fact, a beginner can gain knowledge based on the experiences of other gamblers just from the discussions we have had. as you can see, there are many responses from the community regarding the post you submitted. well, my question is, are there many beginners who are interested.

In fact, most gamblers just want to play and have fun in the hope of getting a win and enjoying the fun side of gambling. But what most gamblers ignore is that every session must be prepared for the risks. and that's why, before we bet, whether we are beginners or very familiar gamblers. make it a habit to do some calculations first, whether the money we are risking will not interfere with other interests. for example, our basic needs. well, so the ideas you expressed in this thread are not what we are doing. Moreover, there are many threads discussing all kinds of gambling perspectives. you, I, we, can get experience from various gamblers without having to do the same thing. specifically in this case, it is for beginners as you mean. the point is, everyone has different intellectuals. Therefore, use it as a benchmark for us to study and choose. Likewise with the gambling that we do. There is no need to post another thread, after all, all the threads we discuss in gambling can become valuable knowledge and gain experience from the stories posted by other members. However, it all comes back to each of us.

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