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December 14, 2023, 05:29:50 PM
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December 14, 2023, 06:11:25 PM
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Well, if you look at what's been happening around the world, you'll see that copying and pasting has become much more normal than it seems, but there are limits, of course. for example in cars, when a company like toyota makes a new car, the other competing company like ford makes a car model similar to the toyota car, it just has some differences in the design and features, but the body of the car It's the same, other companies like Mazda also copy what their competitors do and only make some changes. This happens with physical casinos, they hire the best designers to build the casino, but within the casino, the promotions, features, the way employees act are the same as in other physical casinos.

look at the cryptocurrency market for example, when they created bitcoin, copies such as litecoin soon followed, when they created anonymity altcoins such as monero, many other altcoins soon followed. When they created mixers, many mixers soon appeared that were copies. In the case of crypto casinos, it would not be any different either, because it is difficult for a new casino not to follow the standard that was created in this industry. When I talk about the standard I'm talking about a sign-up bonus, a flashy design with lots of colors and photos of athletes from many sports, so a new casino that offers slot games and sports betting, it will have a similar design to the other casinos and will offer the same things that other casinos already offer

There are not many new features to offer, now the most important thing is that the new casinos are honest, not scam casinos and at least casinos with fast support. I believe that when we see a casino with a support phone number that supports many major languages and that casino has a physical headquarters in a country, then we will be seeing true innovation in the world of online casinos

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December 14, 2023, 06:15:56 PM
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If we are to talk about online gambling casinos, almost everything we are seing today are just an improvement on what others have already built or worked on, there's nothing new anymore in gambling than we have all been having now, the little difference they all have is the unique qualities that we see from the ones we have chosen to use, just as you cannot also start something new without taking ideas from the existing ones operated by those before you.

So there's nothing new to build in online casinos? No new ideas or innovation remain?
It's done.
Why ?

It is not that there will be no new ideas anymore, but you can still see some variations of them.
Of course, hard to start from the scratch as it means, you need to create a never-berfore-seen games.
Why are you looking for new innovations? Are you bored with all these countless games offered by casinos?
You can't even play all these games in one day. If not, go to sportsbetting also. There are so many choices as well.
And by the way each casino is running their own race or contest or bonus programs. I don't think you will run out your choices there.
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December 14, 2023, 06:31:10 PM
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If it works, then it works, I guess? A lot of people buy these newly created casinos because of the bonuses anyway. If old casinos can keep up with these bonuses, plus a lot of other goodies that new casinos offer, then I guess this problem with new casinos copying templates of other casinos wouldn't be a problem. Then again, eventually after these new bonuses have expired or they simply exhausted whatever bonus options there is available, they'll go back to the old casinos and stay there for good until such time that a new casino opens up again.

It's a non-problem if you ask me. These new casinos can't really expect themselves to last long and build another solid player base that old casinos proudly have.

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December 14, 2023, 06:45:58 PM
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A lot of them seem to be hastily assembled clone sites with very little effort put in and gimmicky marketing. Do you guys have any thoughts on this... plague?

Don't play on fake sites.
Playing at big casinos such as rollbit, sportsbet.io, stake, duelbits and many other big casinos will keep you from getting bored because casinos like that always present something that makes players feel comfortable.
Because access to casinos is easy and the numbers are not small, I think it will give us the option to choose a casino that is not boring.

The games at every casino according to my knowledge are almost all the same. Games that are available at one casino are also available at casino two. What's not boring lies in the bonuses.

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December 14, 2023, 09:34:27 PM
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Hi, goldenmonke

If you think that exists today, it is nothing compared to the beginning of this century and even the second decade, skins abound, will abound and will never cease to exist, even GG poker has several skins working for them, e.g., there is nothing new there, in fact I think this has resurfaced in a higher percentage due to the pandemic effect, just be careful with the casinos where you deposit, by the way, in the forum, there is good information about which casinos are reliable.

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December 14, 2023, 10:01:45 PM
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A lot of them seem to be hastily assembled clone sites with very little effort put in and gimmicky marketing. Do you guys have any thoughts on this... plague?

I observed some casinos to have the same format and design, but I do not think they are hastily assembled except if the platform is used to scam its users.

As we all know casino owners may have no knowledge about designing and developing casino platform but they have the idea and fund for it.  So what do we think they will do?  They will hire people who are offering services and these people do not have only one client.

As a casino owner who is testing the waters, they surely will take the minimum cost of establishing the casino and eventually develop it as the casino progresses.  This might be the reason why we see some newly established casino designs almost identical.

So I really don't pay attention if the site is identical to other sites but the license and customer reviews since, I think, this is the more important.

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December 14, 2023, 10:40:00 PM
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A lot of them seem to be hastily assembled clone sites with very little effort put in and gimmicky marketing. Do you guys have any thoughts on this... plague?

Don't play on fake sites.
Playing at big casinos such as rollbit, sportsbet.io, stake, duelbits and many other big casinos will keep you from getting bored because casinos like that always present something that makes players feel comfortable.
Because access to casinos is easy and the numbers are not small, I think it will give us the option to choose a casino that is not boring.

The games at every casino according to my knowledge are almost all the same. Games that are available at one casino are also available at casino two. What's not boring lies in the bonuses.


Well, quite a while ago I saw that they had launched casinos that had identical Interfaces to the others, one with a name that I don't remember, it was identical to stake.com, the truth is the environment was identical, I don't know if in reality the casino was Fraudulent or that the The Owner paid someone and stole it with that design, the truth is that sometimes you don't know what really happened, because someone can have some money and can say that they are going to set up a casino without knowing everything that entails in time , responsibility , people who work, all this is very relevant, because setting up a business like this means that first you have to have a lot of money, and the things that you sometimes manage to set up with everything are not Completely able to do Things well , because they always They are going to lose a little more money and when they Decide to start , they do not do it with a strong capital, a capital that is large, but rather what they have left , of course here they are given everything that is security , people in charge for a whole sin end of tasks, everything is money.

And since it's all about money to set up a casino , sometimes that's the only thing you need most , and I've seen that there are casinos that go all out, with advertising even on Facebook, and then things don't go well, they come to nothing, bitcointalk, they spend enough money on it for the campaigns, and it is a great investment tool, but there are things where things cannot be sustained and start with failures, and if a strong player comes in, the casino cannot maintain the streak, and there are times that they begin to decapitalize so quickly that they stop all withdrawals, they start making manual withdrawals, people do not like that, because they Know that perhaps they will no longer be able to get the money out, that is something that can be Generated many Losses and there are some cases that end up Being scams because there is no good planning, and that is very sad indeed, because it is a very good business Among casinos.

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December 14, 2023, 11:40:41 PM
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It's still surprising to me that there aren't more original casinos. If something is lucrative it usually attracts a lot of creative attention. Though maybe many little attempts are spawning and it's just hard to notice in the sea of copycats.

From what I've seen, the big casino companies have cash to spare, so they pay for slick websites and eye-catching banners when they run promotions.  Their stuff looks sharp and  the smaller fry don't have that kind of budget, so they either farm it out to cut-rate designers or buy some generic script that makes all the sites look carbon copies of each other. 

I figure the big outfits want to keep pulling in new players and get their names out there so they shell out for top-notch design to reel people in.  The little guys just want to keep things running as cheap as possible.  Can't say I blame them, but its plain to see they don't put much into aesthetics or standing apart from the crowd visually.

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December 14, 2023, 11:56:49 PM
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I observed some casinos to have the same format and design, but I do not think they are hastily assembled except if the platform is used to scam its users.

As we all know casino owners may have no knowledge about designing and developing casino platform but they have the idea and fund for it.  So what do we think they will do?  They will hire people who are offering services and these people do not have only one client.

As a casino owner who is testing the waters, they surely will take the minimum cost of establishing the casino and eventually develop it as the casino progresses.  This might be the reason why we see some newly established casino designs almost identical.

So I really don't pay attention if the site is identical to other sites but the license and customer reviews since, I think, this is the more important.
I might be wrong, but I'll go ahead and make a guess. Apart from copying games and innovations from other casinos, that plays a huge role in why we often see minimal differences among casinos. I also believe that it's possibly due to their developers and website designers. The majority of these casinos are developed by a handful of companies, similarly to what happens with website templates. Thus, it could explain the similarities among casinos.

I'm not sure if it's accurate, but it sounds like a plausible scenario to me; it's at least very common in a few sectors of website development.

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A lot of them seem to be hastily assembled clone sites with very little effort put in and gimmicky marketing. Do you guys have any thoughts on this... plague?

I can tell you that I wouldn't trust my money to a clone site, especially one that seems to be put together with very little effort.  If they put seemingly small amounts of effort into their site, what sort of effort do you think they'd put in to repay you in the event of a hack, or if you need customer service...  With something as important as your money, I would recommend using a site that has a reputation of being reliable and good to their customers. There's no reason not to.

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December 15, 2023, 12:15:29 AM
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Well, if you look at what's been happening around the world, you'll see that copying and pasting has become much more normal than it seems, but there are limits, of course. for example in cars, when a company like toyota makes a new car, the other competing company like ford makes a car model similar to the toyota car, it just has some differences in the design and features, but the body of the car It's the same, other companies like Mazda also copy what their competitors do and only make some changes. This happens with physical casinos, they hire the best designers to build the casino, but within the casino, the promotions, features, the way employees act are the same as in other physical casinos.

look at the cryptocurrency market for example, when they created bitcoin, copies such as litecoin soon followed, when they created anonymity altcoins such as monero, many other altcoins soon followed. When they created mixers, many mixers soon appeared that were copies. In the case of crypto casinos, it would not be any different either, because it is difficult for a new casino not to follow the standard that was created in this industry. When I talk about the standard I'm talking about a sign-up bonus, a flashy design with lots of colors and photos of athletes from many sports, so a new casino that offers slot games and sports betting, it will have a similar design to the other casinos and will offer the same things that other casinos already offer

There are not many new features to offer, now the most important thing is that the new casinos are honest, not scam casinos and at least casinos with fast support. I believe that when we see a casino with a support phone number that supports many major languages and that casino has a physical headquarters in a country, then we will be seeing true innovation in the world of online casinos

Yeah, is not just in gambling, even in music lots is made using algos that take some from here, some from there and make "new song" that sound just too much the same as older successful ones. However, there is a caveat in just copying because if they do not know why they do it and why it works they will not understan why it may stop to be good or how to improve it.

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December 15, 2023, 10:35:32 AM
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A lot of them seem to be hastily assembled clone sites with very little effort put in and gimmicky marketing. Do you guys have any thoughts on this... plague?
It's so alarming and the gimmicks are all over the place trying to target people to them but mostly for their own selfish gain. Well, one has to be careful these days and I am not just a fan of new casinos as such since scammers are more involved there than genuine business people. I do not know why I will be looking for new casinos now. Is it for the bonus? I don't use it. Is it for the influencers used? No one is an idol to me.

I follow my gambling style, path and plan as I love, and presently, I am okay with my casinos, especially with Stake with the way they are so far. What these casinos do is almost the same thing, but if a casino is similar in interface to the ones I knew already, I will just move away from them. It's as simple as that. What it would first speak to me is the calibre of the company they are. This is evident before they rip me off of my money, and such are the kind that would be announcing ambiguous bonuses that would be insane to believe. If fall victim, they get to hold one's money and never process withdrawal in most cases. So, for me, the old ones are better as long as they do not hurt me. If at all I am tempted to use any of the new ones, they must have started operating for over 2 years before considering them for any reason.

My money is important to me, I don't want those who will swindle it and still not say thank you...lol

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December 15, 2023, 01:21:46 PM
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A lot of them seem to be hastily assembled clone sites with very little effort put in and gimmicky marketing. Do you guys have any thoughts on this... plague?

You are right, a lot of casinos are quickly opened with some clone scripts. But it's what people generally like, simplicity and easy navigation through the games. And I am not sure if can we expect some big changes, there is talk about "metaverse" casinos, but I think we are still far from them...

Since you brought up this topic I wonder what you have in mind when you say that casinos are a bit uninspired... what kind of ideas you have about possible "upgrades & changes" that would make casinos more attractive, unique, and innovative?

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December 15, 2023, 02:46:38 PM
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A lot of them seem to be hastily assembled clone sites with very little effort put in and gimmicky marketing. Do you guys have any thoughts on this... plague?

I can tell you that I wouldn't trust my money to a clone site, especially one that seems to be put together with very little effort.  If they put seemingly small amounts of effort into their site, what sort of effort do you think they'd put in to repay you in the event of a hack, or if you need customer service...  With something as important as your money, I would recommend using a site that has a reputation of being reliable and good to their customers. There's no reason not to.
There are lots of imitation sites like that so it looks like the owners of the sites are not serious about building a business, I know that casinos are a very interesting business but most of them are too hasty in competing in this business, unfortunately they think that the appearance of imitating sites is something. which is normal but for professional gamblers it really doesn't look very safe and is even vulnerable to being a fraudulent site.

It's not surprising to see a lot of casino sites that look the same, just with slight differences in appearance such as colors and other features, most of which should be avoided, usually they end up being fraudulent sites and are easily hacked because maintaining site security will of course be very different, those who Being lazy and rushing will actually be very vulnerable to being hacked. So what you say is true, don't trust your money to fake sites. look for different sites and always develop regular updates on the site.

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December 15, 2023, 02:59:46 PM
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A lot of them seem to be hastily assembled clone sites with very little effort put in and gimmicky marketing. Do you guys have any thoughts on this... plague?

I agree actually. There was a big scam running or is still ongoing with those 1xBit casinos. They have so many casinos that they must have forgotten which domain belongs to them. Lolz.  Roll Eyes I mean I am just giving an example but yeah everyone who knows this scam must have gotten the gist already. On top of this, there are so many services that offer to set up an entire script for the casino including the front end and back end. This is why we keep seeing similar websites set up everywhere. Just yesterday I was engaged in a conversation regarding the game providers and casino websites. The success of the Casino is entirely based on the game providers, their marketing strategy, their promos, and their activity on the social accounts. More engagement and more involvement of the users, that's what bring success to them. Rest, all the sites you will find similar things only UI changes, color tones, the way they animate. So yeah couldn't agree more on OP's statement.
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December 15, 2023, 03:41:47 PM
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There are lots of imitation sites like that so it looks like the owners of the sites are not serious about building a business, I know that casinos are a very interesting business but most of them are too hasty in competing in this business, unfortunately they think that the appearance of imitating sites is something. which is normal but for professional gamblers it really doesn't look very safe and is even vulnerable to being a fraudulent site.
Businessmen behind those clone websites are looking for ways to make profit, but don't have any innovative, unique and creative ideas to put in practice, so they simply copy the format and concept from well established platforms, expecting the public will also become their customers for that reason. However, they ignore or don't understand the fact a copy will be always a copy. We are tired of seeing this in crypto market between Bitcoin and its so many clones (worthless and priceless altcoins).

I don't even know if we could call this a competition, because there isn't any competition at all. Original gambling platforms massacre those copies in every aspects. Gamblers are very aware about these tactics employed by plagiarists, including the newbies who must be really naive to fall for these parallel websites. After all, copies of online casinos are just a waste of time for the people behind them, because they aren't profitable at all, neither have potential to grow as company on long term.

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December 15, 2023, 03:51:02 PM
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A lot of them seem to be hastily assembled clone sites with very little effort put in and gimmicky marketing. Do you guys have any thoughts on this... plague?
When an industry becomes too saturated, you will start seeing duplicated products all around and it shouldn't be surprising for you because people, firms, and companies often replicate things that are good and have good market value and popularity among consumers. The online gambling industry is no exception when it comes to this thing because though there are good, unique, and reputable platforms, there are hundreds of replicas as well that are created just to give competition to the existing platforms.

However, it's not that difficult to identify those replicas if one has experience and has used the genuine versions of them already. A gambler should always choose only the reputable platforms for their gambling activities so that they don't become a victim of using a replica and possibly face fraud or scam.

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A lot of them seem to be hastily assembled clone sites with very little effort put in and gimmicky marketing. Do you guys have any thoughts on this... plague?
Well, i can say that this is really that true on which whenever there's a new site then you would really be having impression that it might really that similar looking on the site that we've been able to see before specially if you are a person who do really loves on trying to hover yourself on different online casinos. You would really be having those impressions that it is really just that similar
on the sites that we have seen before. It would be that common or not surprising that they do share up with the same template or design with little tweaks.
Well, it doesnt matter much because it would really be just that still depending whether you would really be playing on the site or not.
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Since you brought up this topic I wonder what you have in mind when you say that casinos are a bit uninspired... what kind of ideas you have about possible "upgrades & changes" that would make casinos more attractive, unique, and innovative?

I've had the thought to set up my own casino with unique games. I have experience with the industry and I think there are big untapped opportunities to make new/interesting experiences.

I'd rather show than tell though.
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