The percentage probability that the account was sold

[aliveNFT]

Salute,

Today I found a topic by user aceptamosbitcoin, i never seen him before in Russian local board so I decided to check his story to roughly understand who he is and discovered an interesting moment.

His first activity made in forum

• August 25, 2013 Topic:Comercios Fisicos que Acepten Bitcoin

Last activity of first owner

• November 26, 2015 Post

Here we see that almost 99% of all messages from his account are made in the Español (Spanish) Local board.

Awakening of the second personality on the account

• January 08, 2017 post

Last activity of second owner

• August 22, 2020 Topic: Searching writers [EU/USA]

During this period of time, the account was actively used in English and without activity in the Español (Spanish) Local board.

The last phase of awakening

• December 13, 2023 Topic: Buying domains or crypto media sites

Last activity

• December 13, 2023 Topic: Ищeм SEO cпeциaлиcтa c oпытoм paбoты c Ahrefs

The appearance in the Russian local board is generally some kind of surprise for me, but it does not prove anything, so we will put this aside.
Obviously, the account was clearly sold once, but is it enough to paint him? He staked BTC adress on July 26, 2019 which clearly does not prove that he belongs to this account.

I have nothing against this man, and in my opinion he did not do anything bad here, but at the same time it contradicts the established rules, what are your conclusions? Or, all this cannot prove that the account was resold or the owner changed.

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[ineedhelpplease]

Eh, November 26, 2015 to January 08, 2017 isn't too far fetched. Only a year.
People can learn different languages, and it was only a year and 1 month. I would just call it a coincidence, especially seeing that it has been over 5 years since this happened and as far as to my knowledge no suspicious things have happened during the time of the activity.

As for the last awakening being a 3 year difference, that can be of some suspicion and understandable, especially seeing that Russian post, but since you said the Russian post didn't prove anything (as well as that he also speaks English in 2023) we'll just do what you said and set that specific part aside.


He did stake his account in 2019, that is a good find and im removing the rest since its 4 am and i had to reread this post a couple of times

[aliveNFT]

~

My brother taught me as a child, if you don't understand what your opponent is talking about, just nod.
Me now:

[ineedhelpplease]

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My brother taught me as a child, if you don't understand what your opponent is talking about, just nod.
Me now:

Wasn't trying to be disrespectful with that post, apologies.

[Jawhead999]

but at the same time it contradicts the established rules, what are your conclusions?

How's exactly account changed hands contradict the rules? where's the rules saying that account changed hands should be banned or red tagged?

18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.

Since the account doesn't have any reputation (green trust or DT1), not participate in signature campaign nor bounty, offering service, taking non collateral loan etc, I don't care with that. He's not making any mess or taking advantage over his account, so I'll just leave it.

[aliveNFT]

but at the same time it contradicts the established rules, what are your conclusions?

How's exactly account changed hands contradict the rules? where's the rules saying that account changed hands should be banned or red tagged?

18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.

Since the account doesn't have any reputation (green trust or DT1), not participate in signature campaign nor bounty, offering service, taking non collateral loan etc, I don't care with that. He's not making any mess or taking advantage over his account, so I'll just leave it.

This is about the answer I expected. It is impossible to prove that the account was sold, and if nothing besides the sale contradicts the rules, then there is nothing to add.
I will not close this topic but i got answers on my qeustions, thanks
If somebody want add something go ahead.

[Cantsay]

This is about the answer I expected. It is impossible to prove that the account was sold, and if nothing besides the sale contradicts the rules, then there is nothing to add.
I will not close this topic but i got answers on my qeustions, thanks
If somebody want add something go ahead.

It’s not that account sales breaks any of the forum rules. It’s just that most members believe that accounts that were bought can be used for unethical purposes like someone could buy an account that was active in the collectible section and has completed several threads with other users and because of that they have managed to earn some reputation for themselves if such an account was to be sold, it would be easy for the new owner to use the account to scam the community since a lot of people already trust the account.

And just like the post above mine stated, this very account is not active they don’t even have an interest in joining a signature campaign but I’ll still advice that you keep a close watch and if you suspect anything then you can come back and warn the community about it.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

It is an interesting case.

I think that whoever manages the account is not the one who created it almost 100%.

The nickname is Spanish, translated into English it would be weacceptbitcoin.

Most likely it has changed hands twice, but that guy is not the one who created the account. If someone red tags him for it, he will probably come up with the implausible explanation that he first learned English and then Russian and now lives in Russia, but in these cases the simplest explanation is the correct one.

[aliveNFT]

It is an interesting case...~

Hmm, as an option in order to warn people with whom he may potentially have a deal. For reference use this topic.

[aceptamosbitcoin]

lol funny post. If I don't use bitcointalk I break the rules?
I remember about it when I need something and you will be surprised that people can speak different languages. Personally, I know 4-5 for B2 at least.

In addition, can you show where I tried to scam someone or how? What right do you have to accuse me of anything? Just because I can speak several languages?

I suggest you to spend more time with your family and don't look for conspiracy theories  


Finally, you asked me to contact you for a job and after you decided to create this FUD

[Cantsay]

@aceptamosbitcoin merge all your posts together… you didn’t even quote anyone in your post so I don’t see why you made three different posts when it could fit into just one.

P.s all have been reported for mod to merge but you can still do it yourself.

[nutildah]

Hard to say for sure. Though there's a strong probability this account changed hands, its impossible to know with 100% accuracy.

lol funny post. If I don't use bitcointalk I break the rules?
I remember about it when I need something and you will be surprised that people can speak different languages. Personally, I know 4-5 for B2 at least.

We can settle this pretty quickly. Can you sign a message from either of these addresses?

Staking, quote please

1CgbNM86TR2HGZyH3UEPHVKPYDP8KrTV2E

aceptamosbitcoin id 146574 bitcoitalk

IFp5zRxPV701VGiT0Idi6hipyfA6ayPzTgQG2dxyZVeAaTpONpmzQCMAxv/4bu9g0pqDOFuJxRgSJ9NYI2lobaA=

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am aceptamosbitcoin from bitcointalk.org forum. Today is July 26, 2019 and I want to secure my bitcointalk account with this message
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
bc1q6e028l09veg7kup7yq2l626g6ha27d4hsc7x69
H+fOIwxvY87x4OfoWdAVMzdt/Sol9Lcu1it53Aar9p8qNbEm+CWCgONuVoQ4F+GQWne4pwkT8zEzL5y6muOc6OM=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It would mean you've owned the account since at least July 2019.

[suchmoon]

lol funny post. If I don't use bitcointalk I break the rules?

If you're not the original owner of the account and try to hide that fact - you can't be trusted. Attempting strawman fucktrollery like you're doing here just confirms that suspicion.

So just sign the message and stop multiposting (now THAT breaks the rules).

[Poker Player]

We can settle this pretty quickly.

I don't believe so.

Can you sign a message from either of these addresses?

That would only prove that he is the second owner, the one who only spoke English and not Spanish any more. In fact he staked the address just after the posting gap indicating a change of hands and when he started speaking in English (and never wrote in Spanish again). Another thing I see is that in the first period he did not apply for any bounty but after a short time after he switched to English he applied, which usually happens when accounts change hands.

I remember about it when I need something and you will be surprised that people can speak different languages. Personally, I know 4-5 for B2 at least.

Please enlighten us, why would someone who has spent two and a half years writing only in Spanish, switch to writing only in English?

[aliveNFT]

I have nothing against this man, and in my opinion he did not do anything bad here~~

lol funny post. If I don't use bitcointalk I break the rules?
I remember about it when I need something and you will be surprised that people can speak different languages. Personally, I know 4-5 for B2 at least.

In addition, can you show where I tried to scam someone or how? What right do you have to accuse me of anything? Just because I can speak several languages?
I suggest you to spend more time with your family and don't look for conspiracy theories 

Buddy, no negativity, it's okay if I wrote something incorrectly, then being the real owner of the account, you will be able to prove ownership.

[Poker Player]

Buddy, no negativity, it's okay if I wrote something incorrectly, then being the real owner of the account, you will be able to prove ownership.

How is he going to prove it if there is no staked address from the first period, the period in which he only wrote in Spanish?

He can prove that he is the owner of the second period, the period in which he started speaking only in English, and that the post he wrote in Russian is due to the fact that he speaks several languages with a B2 (which nowadays is not even necessary for writing, as advanced as automatic translators are).

For me the crux of the matter lies in this, no matter how many languages he supposedly masters:

Please enlighten us, why would someone who has spent two and a half years writing only in Spanish, switch to writing only in English?

[aliveNFT]

For me the crux of the matter lies in this, no matter how many languages he supposedly masters:

Please enlighten us, why would someone who has spent two and a half years writing only in Spanish, switch to writing only in English?

Indeed, instead of answering the questions we asked him point by point, he attacked me. We say this: "the thief's hat is on fire"
Otherwise, it wouldn't have hurt him so much..
aceptamosbitcoin   2023-12-14      Accused me without any proofs of "scam or whatever" for speaking several languages.

[aceptamosbitcoin]

Why I should answer any of your questions? You are a policeman?
You are trying to accuse me of something without any evidence and demanding answers. Why should I still waste time on you?
Get a life bro

[aliveNFT]

Why I should answer any of your questions? You are a policeman?
Show me proof where I scammed someone or whatever.
Get a life bro

Are you so angry that you can't read the gist of my topic? Please show me the specific places where I accuse you of scammed someone.
Is it about how this account ended up with you? After all, its previous owner was from Spain, which is obvious, and if you really are who you think you are ¹then tell me why, after 2 years of absence from your account, you no longer showed any acitvity into Spanish board.

About this:
aceptamosbitcoin   2023-12-14      Accused me without any proofs of "scam or whatever" for speaking several languages.

²Where exactly did I accuse you of "scam or whatever" ?

I marked two questions with red numbers 1 and 2 so that you wouldn't get confused this time. Please answer them.

[aceptamosbitcoin]

Why I should answer any of them? Who are you?

Maybe I should pass KYC for you especially?

Accused by creating this topic for knowing different languages. Plus, "Hmm, as an option in order to warn people with whom he may potentially have a deal. For reference use this topic. "


I dont want to waste my time for you anymore.