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December 18, 2023, 11:59:52 AM
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As a gambler, we already know this fact. So, do not worry. We can mess up to that gamblers that lies and ask them a proof that they truly win big often. I include the word "big often" there, because it is still possible to win big in gambling rarely but most of the times we will be a loser, or we will only win small amounts which we think still not enough for us, and we can't even made a withdrawal for this, so we just continue and get the usual bust result.

Even if we bust them (the liar gamblers), for sure they will still continue of what they are currently doing. It is hard to stop people like that. I guess their conscience are the only ones that can do it.

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December 18, 2023, 02:05:34 PM
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This is true. Many gamblers are defensive. They simply cannot accept the fact that their gambling activities are actually net negative rather than positive. Many of my gambling friends are like this. Perhaps it hurts their manly pride to admit that they are actually just wasting money in gambling. They cannot easily admit that. Especially if they're in front of their family and relatives, they either won't admit that they're losing, or if they do, they would only claim they're losing small. The truth is that almost all chronic gamblers are losing big.

The trap of gambling is that even after winning, such players will not repay their debts, or admit that it is time to stop. Their strange logic will be that “I need to continue playing, because if I’m so lucky, then I’ll be so lucky again.” After that, they lose that big win and continue to lose more and more, racking up a lot of debt.

It’s a pity, but the life of seemingly happy gamers is often lies and duplicity. And when they are asked the question: “Have you thought about suicide?” They are silent and frown.

I'm sad about your point, but I think that's unfortunately so true. There are also gamblers I know who have accumulated so much debt not necessarily because they borrow money for their uncontrolled gambling activities but they often needed money for their basic needs. That's so ironic that they are throwing money away at casinos when they cannot even buy the basic things that their families need. And when they win, you're right, many of them don't even remember to pay their debts. Gambling can even warp one's values.

I agree that it is very sad, and it is incredible that people turn into addicts. The phenomenon that you have described is especially inherent in men. They are ready to follow their goal, their financial strategy, even if it is completely based on guesses and ridiculous hypotheses. At the same time, these would-be players will save on themselves, bringing the situation to a complete absurdity. Their clothes will be worn, their food will be of poor quality, and so on. But they will give their last dollar to gambling.

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December 18, 2023, 02:23:26 PM
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If someone claims to have won but doesn't show proof that he won, we don't need to believe him. We also don't need to speculate about their win, especially if we don't see it directly. It's better for us to pay attention to the gambling games we play and always try to limit them.

Don't pay attention to other people's wins or losses because it will affect our gambling game. We want to follow those who have won by continuing to gamble non-stop. That will clearly make it difficult for us, especially our finances because it means we will use more money to gamble.

We will not believe what we hear or see if we care about ourselves. We will just know it without any feelings because we know that we have to limit our gambling games. And that's what can make us realize that gambling is entertainment and not about chasing wins or recovering from losses.

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December 18, 2023, 02:31:15 PM
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I always want to laugh when an addict tells me that he had a big win. But after I asked, is the money still there? And he answered that he had run out of money, because the money earned from previous winnings was spent on betting larger amounts. And suddenly I burst out laughing.


I always pay attention to gambling addicts, and they will only tell me that they won big after their money is gone. maybe because they are afraid, if for example I knew he had a big win, then I would ask for his share. even though I had no intention of doing that. And what I just want is that he can be better at gambling. And if possible, he stops these activities, for his own good. Gambling addicts always talk about their big wins, they do this as a form of "defense" against their bad behavior in gambling. Because they know very well that other people know the magnitude of the losses they have experienced. So people will lecture him until the gambling addict's ears feel hot.

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December 18, 2023, 02:48:52 PM
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As a matter of fact, we don't need to disclose our wins and loss to anyone else and if someone do there is no reason that it has to be accurate so if they say something just by words then just take it with ease and no need to try that by yourselves but most of the person get tempted by those results to jump into gambling in the first place and influencers use this as an advertising strategy too.

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December 18, 2023, 03:12:03 PM
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This is quite the opposite here in my place with offline gambling like cockfighting. Even if an individual is the clear winner in a match he might say he still lose. And what's funny about 'em is that you will never know where winners exit.

Regarding the topic I can also see the same scenario but with different intentions by the gambler. They say they have the most win of the month just to lure bettors to possibly fund them on the next match. I could be wrong but that is what I have observed.



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December 18, 2023, 03:15:57 PM
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maybe they do it to advertise if they make a post in the wrong place and write down the name of the casino site they are playing on, and some people are stressed because they are on a losing streak and they often blame the casino site they are playing on, because when they are on a losing streak their mind goes crazy. lots of changes, all of them become negative

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December 18, 2023, 03:27:23 PM
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Don't be deceived, not every gamblers who actually claims that they won really won.
Some falsefully speculates that they won just because they want to pave an ease to those who has been advising them to quit or limits gambling simply because the gambler has been unlucky to win instead he keep betting over and over without a good bankroll management in their gambling carriers.
They basically do this because they feels disturbed and inconveniences of the people's opinions and advices towards the gamblers unprofitable gambling experiences
It's a common thing in addicts to downplay losses or substance usage. As they don't see it as a problem, but they know other would se it as a problem. So they avoid any confrontation or ideas of intervention. And you don't even need to be addict for that. Most of us like to see our life as a constant success story. We don't count the times we eat unhealthy or time used to play games with playstation or used to watch tv or any unproductive work. And when we know we are wasting our money too much, using our time too much for something, we want to rationalize it to us by saying it's profitable, or how it's good for us in smaller doses, so we keep seeing us doing vices in smaller doses.

Best thing to avoid getting addicted is being honest to yourself and not lying to your friends and yourself. Lying is not somehthing you can build relationships on, not even when that relationship is with your inner self.

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December 18, 2023, 03:28:43 PM
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I always want to laugh when an addict tells me that he had a big win. But after I asked, is the money still there? And he answered that he had run out of money, because the money earned from previous winnings was spent on betting larger amounts. And suddenly I burst out laughing.


I always pay attention to gambling addicts, and they will only tell me that they won big after their money is gone. maybe because they are afraid, if for example I knew he had a big win, then I would ask for his share. even though I had no intention of doing that. And what I just want is that he can be better at gambling. And if possible, he stops these activities, for his own good. Gambling addicts always talk about their big wins, they do this as a form of "defense" against their bad behavior in gambling. Because they know very well that other people know the magnitude of the losses they have experienced. So people will lecture him until the gambling addict's ears feel hot.
Gambling addicts' "great gains" are often a front for their losses. They're insulating themselves from external judgment and possibly from realizing the problem. Its a defense mechanism, but more complicated. A coping mechanism, it rationalizes gambling despite losses.

Despite brief wins and defeats, addiction remains. Financial, emotional, and psychic turmoil are all part of this cycle. Your concern for their health and gambling cessation is not intrusive.

Society must treat gambling addiction as a health issue as much as a financial one. The key is identifying psychological triggers, providing assistance, and creating circumstances where healthy gambling or abstinence is the norm. Breaking the addiction cycle requires this person-centered approach.

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December 18, 2023, 03:30:22 PM
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Don't be deceived, not every gamblers who actually claims that they won really won.
Some falsefully speculates that they won just because they want to pave an ease to those who has been advising them to quit or limits gambling simply because the gambler has been unlucky to win instead he keep betting over and over without a good bankroll management in their gambling carriers.
They basically do this because they feels disturbed and inconveniences of the people's opinions and advices towards the gamblers unprofitable gambling experiences

They have to justify their losses and they have to feed their ego that they are doing good when they are incurring losses, I once did this because my friends kept taunting me to show my winnings because I played every day and I kept my results all by myself, so I have to manipulate or show fake screenshots but I learned my lesson that I should not fake it and manipulate, I feel guilty because I was fooling myself more than other people.
So from then on, I kept everything to myself and I was never tempted to show my winnings you'll have peace of mind not fooling yourself and other people.

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December 18, 2023, 03:43:55 PM
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Don't be deceived, not every gamblers who actually claims that they won really won.
Some falsefully speculates that they won just because they want to pave an ease to those who has been advising them to quit or limits gambling simply because the gambler has been unlucky to win instead he keep betting over and over without a good bankroll management in their gambling carriers.
They basically do this because they feels disturbed and inconveniences of the people's opinions and advices towards the gamblers unprofitable gambling experiences
Well, to me, this is completely normal, I mean, there is a lot of lies in the world in general, not just in the aspect of gambling, people lie for many and different reasons, so for a gambler to lie to his or her friends or family that he or she won a bet when he is she never did is just is just simply too common to even discuss about it.

I remember one time when I was still into full time in day trading, for a couple of weeks, I was unable to make any profit, I kept losing trades one after the other, and a friend of mine knew about it all because he was always asking me "how was today's trade" every day, and I will tell him that I was unable to make any profit, and at some point, I myself became very tired of telling him the same thing over and over again every day, so I decided to lie to him the next day that I made $90 profit for the few hours I traded, he rejoiced with me, and the next day, I think I made like $10 to $12 profit, but I also lied or him that I made $102 in profit.

So, things like this, i see them as Normal, if I did not win a bet but decides to lie to my fellows that I won, that is completely my business, and who ever choose to believe this lie or not believe, that's his or her business too, it's doesn't take or add anything to me or them.

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December 18, 2023, 04:22:11 PM
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What sense does it make to claim that one actually won their bet when they never did? Such a gambler is only deceiving themselves and no one else.

The only situation where I see that some people fake their winnings is only online. There are some social media groups in which the admins of those groups always publish different winning slips, and they do that so that they can grab the attention of new, inexperienced gamblers and ask them to pay some money so that they can be given some continuous winning tips.

There are so many telegram groups that I know; all they do is publish some fake winning tickets, and they will ask their followers to pay some subscription fee so that they can get some free games that will give them a sure win.

99.9% of those groups are scams, and even the winning tickets they publish are fake. I don't advise anyone to trust such groups.

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December 18, 2023, 06:19:04 PM
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What sense does it make to claim that one actually won their bet when they never did? Such a gambler is only deceiving themselves and no one else.

In terms of admitting the overall, long-term loss made - they'd be mostly lying to themselves to delay admitting they may have a problem and should do something about that. But lying about winning a specific bet is probably only about trying to get some admiration from other people. I think there are many people who are able to get a real serotonin boost from a completely made-up stories, as long as others believe them to be true.

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December 18, 2023, 07:27:18 PM
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Don't be deceived, not every gamblers who actually claims that they won really won.
Some falsefully speculates that they won just because they want to pave an ease to those who has been advising them to quit or limits gambling simply because the gambler has been unlucky to win instead he keep betting over and over without a good bankroll management in their gambling carriers.
They basically do this because they feels disturbed and inconveniences of the people's opinions and advices towards the gamblers unprofitable gambling experiences

Deceived? Being Tricked? Does your gambling activity have that kind of stuff?

Just be on your usual when you are gambling. Don't mind that unnecessary stuff like that. Why should you involve yourself in that? We can't control those people therefore just mind our own business and let them mind their own business too.

Why should we care if they are telling the truth or not? We do have own journey in gambling and we should just focus there.
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December 18, 2023, 09:15:24 PM
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Lol funny though you can't just use never all gamblers have their own experiences in gambling as well as you. You can't compare yours to others. Yeah is normal that gamblers do accumulate losses. The reason why call it luck that is something you can't control the outcome. This luck can also make you gain massively in gambling and it can also make you loss I won't believe that a gambler haven't made any profit from gambling before that can only happens when the person is not gambling at all.

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December 18, 2023, 09:21:33 PM
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Don't be deceived, not every gamblers who actually claims that they won really won.
Some falsefully speculates that they won just because they want to pave an ease to those who has been advising them to quit or limits gambling simply because the gambler has been unlucky to win instead he keep betting over and over without a good bankroll management in their gambling carriers.
They basically do this because they feels disturbed and inconveniences of the people's opinions and advices towards the gamblers unprofitable gambling experiences

Basically there is no reason to ever listen to a gamble who is trying to hype up their wins, because it's not going to benefit you in any way. Best case scenario it will make you slightly envious and go trying to replicate their win, resulting in you probably losing money. Worst case scenario can be all sorts, including total scams which are just trying to get you to deposit but may even steal your identity documents for abuse elsewhere. There are so many subversive marketing techniques going on these days, that it's pointless watching gamblers on sites like Twitch because they are simply promoting sites and the whole "show" is a con to try and lure in other people to spend money, so strangers should have zero trust.

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December 19, 2023, 09:16:21 AM
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Don't be deceived, not every gamblers who actually claims that they won really won.
Some falsefully speculates that they won just because they want to pave an ease to those who has been advising them to quit or limits gambling simply because the gambler has been unlucky to win instead he keep betting over and over without a good bankroll management in their gambling carriers.
They basically do this because they feels disturbed and inconveniences of the people's opinions and advices towards the gamblers unprofitable gambling experiences
There is only one way to find out, there difference with gambling is that you will get your result in few minutes to hours, someone don't need to confuse anyone that gambling is risky, let them try it out themselves, and if they lose and pretend like they win what is your own business in that? As time goes on they will hit the wall and they will know that you care for them that's why you gave them the advice.

Some people don't want you to look right, whatever you tell them is wrong, and they are prepared to make you look wrong, even when they find the truth, I don't give people much advice because at time it look like you are stopping them to make changes in their lives until they start losing money themselves.

If you are losing money on gambling and people are advising you, yet you decide to lie as if you are winning it's only a matter of time, they say action speaks louder than voice, those who you lied to will see through you anyway, that's what liars don't know, in gambling you can't keep deceiving yourself for so long, you will either get addicted to gambling or quietly quit gambling.

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December 19, 2023, 09:26:10 AM
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I think that everyone here knows that, it's a basic etiquette on the Internet to not trust what you're reading and always take everything with a grain of salt because there's no way that everyone here tells the truth when you can be anonymous. To me, I just let them be like that anyway, their fantasies about how to gamble is a thing that keeps them alive and you don't have to worry too much about them if you can think for yourself, their advice would be useless when you're not following anything blindly anyways.

But in regards to all these tricks and lies that some people are saying about their gambling journey, remember that a lot of gamblers have similar experience on some games in most occasions so take that in mind before calling them out because you never know and there's also the fact that sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction.
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December 19, 2023, 09:40:07 AM
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What is the gain if they do so? Because it does not make a lot of sense to me, if you lie that you win some amount in gambling and you've never gamble yourself, it means you will end up gambling one day because you are simply encouraging yourself with lies and you will also come across others revelation in gambling, it will get to a point where you will think that you are missing out.

I don't encourage lies but those who are doing it are deceiving themselves, who cares anyway? You should still focus on yourself and try to avoid getting addicted to gambling, it changes nothing if someone lied about their gambling experience, that shouldn't have any impact on you because not all experiences are lies and as a gambler you will find out if you can cope or not after giving gambling a try.

How is your own gambling experience going? This is the oy thing you should care about, who cares if someone lies? With gambling you don't have to be told that you will win or lose, online casinos are everywhere online, do some findings yourself.

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December 19, 2023, 09:40:23 AM
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Don't be deceived, not every gamblers who actually claims that they won really won.
Pure facts. I know that most gamblers fake their wins. And most time it is because they have had a big win in the past on one or more gambling occasions so there is this pride or should i say hierarchy they would want to maintain. In a situation where they have been receiving praises from other gamblers based on how good they are in gambling. They would love to maintain that reputation this is why most of them lie about wining when they did not.

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