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December 22, 2023, 07:45:14 AM
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Yes you are right thought, not all. There's definitely someone out there who actually claim they've won and they actually won but not all gamblers are the same. I thought the topic was something like the streamers who live stream playing on a gambling site and actually won, most of them are paid by the gambling site and I am not sure maybe they do something to make them win all the time or maybe because of the big bankroll they have. Well, that's a good example of gamblers claiming that they win but never did actually win. Grin

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December 22, 2023, 08:21:23 AM
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I know why someone did this, he want to make people around him to not stop him to gamble. But it's actually stupid to lie to other people about your gambling result in order to make you allowed to gamble.

We can see a lot of examples that their experience or winnings are good to be true or even a topic about gambling that looks like a made-up story, but we can never know if its true if we will not verify them or them showing some proof.
Both images and videos can be photoshopped, so there's no way to verify their claims via online except there's a representative of the casino can confirm it (although bribing is still possible Tongue).

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December 22, 2023, 09:38:34 AM
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 But that's what happens nowadays in social media for example, where people just show what they want and it seems that them all have perfect lives although they don't.

The only way not to fall in these mirages is to think critically and be aware that it is not gold all that glitters.

Yes, that's how humans are, sometimes their lives don't match what they say or show to the public. For example, a public figure creates content on social media so that many people see and like their daily activities and they will make a profit there. that's clear.

There are even those who imitate the lives of these public figures in order to appear special or attractive in the eyes of other people, even though this is clearly still doubtful. Therefore, it's a good idea not to force things that we really can't do, so that we don't get trapped in complicated conditions and even get into lots of problems.

Getting trapped into their own traps is a risk that all these people has to accept, and many end up believing their own character, to realize later that they weren't as perfect as they thought. But I think that this applies especially in different industries (beauty, lifestyle...) and not so much in gambling, where advertisers are usually aware of these and other tricks.

The main problem, IMO, is that the audience who consumes that content is often unaware of the reality behind the influencer's curtain (money for bets is not from his own pocket, he makes repetitions of the best moments so they seem more usual than they really are...); but you don't have to be a professional to do it either so, back to the topic, it also happens with friends, relatives, or colleagues from the forum, who can create false expectations in those who believe their false claims.
Beauty and lifestyle influencers often get caught up in their personalities. I believe its equally relevant in gambling. Glamorizing wins can lead even the most savvy advertisers to self-delude. They also believe their own deception. Audience innocence is crucial. Few customers understand the processes underlying influencer facades, such as non-personal bet funds and selective victory highlights. This sets risky precedent, especially in gambling, where stakes and losses are real. Easy success is deceptive and dangerous.

This issue crosses professions. It goes beyond influencers. This network of deception involves friends, family, and coworkers, often inadvertently. They create false narratives and raise peer expectations. This is a social issue that requires increased awareness and ethical reflection, not merely a marketing tactic.

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December 22, 2023, 02:40:31 PM
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Yes you are right thought, not all. There's definitely someone out there who actually claim they've won and they actually won but not all gamblers are the same. I thought the topic was something like the streamers who live stream playing on a gambling site and actually won, most of them are paid by the gambling site and I am not sure maybe they do something to make them win all the time or maybe because of the big bankroll they have. Well, that's a good example of gamblers claiming that they win but never did actually win. Grin

Honestly, I've never thought about the reasons why they make claims that don't match reality, but it seems like something drives them to do things like that, whether it's to brag to others including some of their friends that they are able to excel in terms of luck compared to others or other reasons. But yes that's true, on the other hand not all gamblers are like that, for those who gamble just for fun I don't think they will do silly things like this just for the sake of wanting to look luckier than others.

Yes more or less this scenario may be the same as what the stremers do in some of their social media content, they show a situation that looks very tantalizing with seemingly unlimited wins, to be honest I just laugh when I find some stremers who show things like that on social media because I already know that all of that is just nonsense which means deception for ordinary people with the aim of luring more audiences to join the site they are promoting. After all, it's not ethical to be able to get such good luck if they are basically nothing more than ordinary gamblers, meaning they don't gamble like us but they are one of the casino partners whose role is to promote so that behind the scenes the casino organizes all the spins to run well to attract ordinary people.

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December 22, 2023, 02:55:50 PM
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Don't be deceived, not every gamblers who actually claims that they won really won.
Some falsefully speculates that they won just because they want to pave an ease to those who has been advising them to quit or limits gambling simply because the gambler has been unlucky to win instead he keep betting over and over without a good bankroll management in their gambling carriers.
They basically do this because they feels disturbed and inconveniences of the people's opinions and advices towards the gamblers unprofitable gambling experiences

I don't gamble like that here in crypto gambling, and even more so, I don't do that either. I only play gambling to pass the time, have fun, and forget about the problem for a while.

I use or do gambling only when I also have gambling. When I don't have a lot of money, I don't gamble; that's all I do. I'm not like others who try to get money just to gamble because they hope that they might get lucky with a small amount and get the jackpot.


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December 22, 2023, 08:20:29 PM
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Yes you are right thought, not all. There's definitely someone out there who actually claim they've won and they actually won but not all gamblers are the same. I thought the topic was something like the streamers who live stream playing on a gambling site and actually won, most of them are paid by the gambling site and I am not sure maybe they do something to make them win all the time or maybe because of the big bankroll they have. Well, that's a good example of gamblers claiming that they win but never did actually win. Grin

Honestly, I've never thought about the reasons why they make claims that don't match reality, but it seems like something drives them to do things like that, whether it's to brag to others including some of their friends that they are able to excel in terms of luck compared to others or other reasons. But yes that's true, on the other hand not all gamblers are like that, for those who gamble just for fun I don't think they will do silly things like this just for the sake of wanting to look luckier than others.

Yes more or less this scenario may be the same as what the stremers do in some of their social media content, they show a situation that looks very tantalizing with seemingly unlimited wins, to be honest I just laugh when I find some stremers who show things like that on social media because I already know that all of that is just nonsense which means deception for ordinary people with the aim of luring more audiences to join the site they are promoting. After all, it's not ethical to be able to get such good luck if they are basically nothing more than ordinary gamblers, meaning they don't gamble like us but they are one of the casino partners whose role is to promote so that behind the scenes the casino organizes all the spins to run well to attract ordinary people.

The only difference between streamers and such gamblers is that one party gets paid for deceiving people, while the other loses money to deceive his friends. I don't have problems with streamers, as it's their business and form of livelihood. The gamblers who use their money to live such a lifestyle are to be blamed, and the attitude would spread in them for a long time before they would change it. Trying to please other people is a lifestyle that eats deep into the pleaser's brain. He may end up not caring for himself, just to impress the people around him, to see him as a competent gambler. In my previous conversation with a forum member on this, I noticed that this type of gamblers are addicted gamblers who use this as a countervailing force to fight against change. Maybe the people he's showing the fake wins, are trying to convince him about his consistent loss of money in gambling. Advise him not to continue gambling, but to their surprise, they'll be getting funds from the gambler, hence their thoughts about the player would change, as the money changes their thoughts too, and they'll begin to see him as a competent professional gambler. While this helps the gambler to fight against changing his bad attitude, the repercussions would be huge, as he'd run out of money. If he had no other money to keep up with the lifestyle, what would be his excuse? At this stage, he wouldn't have anybody to meet for help. his loved ones would think everything is right with him, and maybe they were wrongly judging him. Many other reasons can lead to this type of behavior. But whenever a person is doing this with no profit in mind, then he's doing the wrong thing to himself and society. He's also generating bad publicity for gambling. It's surprising to hear this type of behavior, and bragging doesn't help anybody to achieve good results.

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December 22, 2023, 08:40:54 PM
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Yes you are right thought, not all. There's definitely someone out there who actually claim they've won and they actually won but not all gamblers are the same. I thought the topic was something like the streamers who live stream playing on a gambling site and actually won, most of them are paid by the gambling site and I am not sure maybe they do something to make them win all the time or maybe because of the big bankroll they have. Well, that's a good example of gamblers claiming that they win but never did actually win. Grin

The winning in the gambling is not the easy one,you should be dedicated to the game.The fact is the gambler should learn the game before he try to earn some money from the gambling.But many gamblers get into gambling and make some loss and get away from the gambling game.The gamblers who view the live streaming will know who is the winner,it was known by both winner and audience.But in some cases,the audience will claim the fake win in the gambling site.


I don't gamble like that here in crypto gambling, and even more so, I don't do that either. I only play gambling to pass the time, have fun, and forget about the problem for a while.

I use or do gambling only when I also have gambling. When I don't have a lot of money, I don't gamble; that's all I do. I'm not like others who try to get money just to gamble because they hope that they might get lucky with a small amount and get the jackpot.

Many gamblers will not gamble like this in the gambling site,because we are in the online gambling.So the backup is the enough to prove the real winner of the game,if any claim the false win.Their was the possibility of losing own account for future play,So many gamblers will not claim the false winning.
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December 22, 2023, 09:28:42 PM
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I don't gamble like that here in crypto gambling, and even more so, I don't do that either. I only play gambling to pass the time, have fun, and forget about the problem for a while.

I use or do gambling only when I also have gambling. When I don't have a lot of money, I don't gamble; that's all I do. I'm not like others who try to get money just to gamble because they hope that they might get lucky with a small amount and get the jackpot.
That is a good action for every gambler to follow because we will not chase the win by just having fun playing gambling, forgetting about problems for a moment, and passing the time. After all, our goal is just to have fun playing gambling. And when we have had enough of gambling, we can immediately decide to stop gambling because we know that the longer we gamble, the more losses we can experience. So we have to limit our gambling activities so that we don't experience many losses.

And when we don't have money, we don't need to force ourselves to gamble, let alone borrow money from other people. That will only create new problems for us, especially when we lose at gambling and can't pay back the borrowed money. And when there are people who say that they can win from gambling, we don't need to listen to them seriously. They say this so that we are tempted to follow them in gambling even though we know there is no guarantee that we can win like them.

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December 22, 2023, 09:54:15 PM
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Those who behave in such a manner are those who are actually getting to be played or they are already addicted to gambling which they will always want to prove them selves worthy of winning whereas they keeping loosing their money.

I don't consider such an attitude the attitude of someone who is a gambling addict; it could be, but it's not just gambling addicts who can play such a role.
 
In as much as claiming what's not good is bad, most people really try as much as they can to limit the insult and bully they get from the people around them as a result of them trying to have fun doing what they like, and this bully comes in the form of how much have you won since you started this and how much do you think you can gain? It's only spend spend spend, which makes them try to buy the way out of such talk by claiming they win something when they have not, and some do this with their money, which they might have earned from other means of hustle.

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December 22, 2023, 10:10:56 PM
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Don't be deceived, not every gamblers who actually claims that they won really won.
Some falsefully speculates that they won just because they want to pave an ease to those who has been advising them to quit or limits gambling simply because the gambler has been unlucky to win instead he keep betting over and over without a good bankroll management in their gambling carriers.
They basically do this because they feels disturbed and inconveniences of the people's opinions and advices towards the gamblers unprofitable gambling experiences

Sometimes gamblers need to do that to make themselves feel calm after losing. There's no problem about that.
It's just that there are many people out there who can't accept it when they see a gambler who is successful in his gambling journey, for example winning big or being able to live from the results of gambling.

The most important thing is that he doesn't do it to influence people to want to gamble, whether it's just for affiliates or anything like that. Because it's the same as inviting people to make their lives worse.
It's better to tell about the pleasure of gambling so as not to give rise to negative perceptions, because for me gambling is entertainment when I really need time to entertain myself from my daily work routine which is quite busy.

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December 22, 2023, 10:36:02 PM
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Those who behave in such a manner are those who are actually getting to be played or they are already addicted to gambling which they will always want to prove them selves worthy of winning whereas they keeping loosing their money.

I don't consider such an attitude the attitude of someone who is a gambling addict; it could be, but it's not just gambling addicts who can play such a role.
 
In as much as claiming what's not good is bad, most people really try as much as they can to limit the insult and bully they get from the people around them as a result of them trying to have fun doing what they like, and this bully comes in the form of how much have you won since you started this and how much do you think you can gain? It's only spend spend spend, which makes them try to buy the way out of such talk by claiming they win something when they have not, and some do this with their money, which they might have earned from other means of hustle.
If gamblers do it to protect themselves from humiliation and oppression then it doesn't matter even if they make fake gambling from fictitious winnings, because no one will be able to control their emotions if other people insult us in front of everyone and they talk about losses in gambling, but don't talk about winnings. fictitious to invite other people to gamble then that action is very bad to damage other people's finances, because other people gamble because they want to achieve victory like you and they gamble without being able to avoid the risk of loss and gamble without responsibility.

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December 22, 2023, 10:42:24 PM
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Honestly, I've never thought about the reasons why they make claims that don't match reality, but it seems like something drives them to do things like that, whether it's to brag to others including some of their friends that they are able to excel in terms of luck compared to others or other reasons.
Gamblers claim to have been cheated by the casino for different reasons. The one you mentioned is a pretty common one and it's directly associated with ego and self-affirmation necessity towards a group they are inserted. But there are another reasons as well. Vengeance against the casino is also a common one, as they can't win, they will sabotage the casino somehow in retribution, so they directly attack on where it's more important for the house: their reputation on the gambling community.

Another possible reason is self-defense mechanism of denial. They just can't accept the fact they lost, because all the probabilities pointed the other way round. They might have faced an unlikely loss and that is too much to be grasped at first impression. So the first reaction is to claim they have won and the casino is cheating. In my opinion this is the minor evil among every reasons why someone could claim to have won a bet they never did, because it doesn't characterize maliciousness in first degree, rather it's an automatic emotional response to a sudden and improbable event.

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December 22, 2023, 11:15:10 PM
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Yes you are right thought, not all. There's definitely someone out there who actually claim they've won and they actually won but not all gamblers are the same. I thought the topic was something like the streamers who live stream playing on a gambling site and actually won, most of them are paid by the gambling site and I am not sure maybe they do something to make them win all the time or maybe because of the big bankroll they have. Well, that's a good example of gamblers claiming that they win but never did actually win. Grin

I wonder who would believe that a person won without proof?  I never stumbled on anyone claiming that they won but yet they don't.  More often I stumble on people denying they won an amount but they did.  For streamers and influencers, I think the proof of winning is on their streams.  Whether the money is sponsored by the casino, their stream on how their gambling session shows is the proof if they won in their gambling stream session.

The only difference between streamers and such gamblers is that one party gets paid for deceiving people,

I assume you are talking about streamers here, I wonder why you say they are deceiving people?  Whether the money used for their session is sponsored or not, they are live streaming... so whatever their stream result is, it is viewed by people.  The purpose of the streamers is to give entertainment to viewers, did you happen to watch streams that claim they own the money used in their gambling stream only to found out that they are sponsored?  I have not encountered one among the streamers I watched.


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December 23, 2023, 07:44:35 AM
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Yes you are right thought, not all. There's definitely someone out there who actually claim they've won and they actually won but not all gamblers are the same. I thought the topic was something like the streamers who live stream playing on a gambling site and actually won, most of them are paid by the gambling site and I am not sure maybe they do something to make them win all the time or maybe because of the big bankroll they have. Well, that's a good example of gamblers claiming that they win but never did actually win. Grin
In gambling there is always manipulation, it can even be arranged by the bookie, for those who claim victory, it is up to them, the important thing is that we are not tempted, so when playing gambling with the aim of producing the same win, we must be able to control our thoughts so as not to be deceived by the victory of someone who claims to have won a lot because gamblers who manipulate winnings usually don't want to be called losers by anyone, so they can be said to be gamblers who are clever at arranging patterns to gain profits.

For streamers who can winning gambling, in my opinion they don't really wins, but it's just a lie to attract other gambler to play the same gambling and they could be paid by the bookie to promote the gambling they playing so that gamblers are easily tempted by wins and profits, they will immediately play like the streamer did. This is the beginning of the downfall of gamblers who are tempted by other people win so they want to do the same thing to get big profits.

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December 23, 2023, 07:59:45 AM
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People can lie for practically no reason at all so I think this is not gambler attitude. But I observe gamblers like to lie about their losses because they love popularity.
Not only that it is not gamblers attitude but lieing on your gambling claiming you wins while you don't would definitely positions you at a point of regrets because it is assumed that you are trying to keep your looses within yourself and such rate of losts must be of such running one a bankrupt and specifically is a bad gambling strategy
that is eating you up from the inside being  even though your bad reputations is not publicly observed but yeah, you are loosing more than yourself could hold but out of shame you claim being okay.
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December 23, 2023, 08:33:16 AM
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Truthfully, the disdain that comes with loosing on a bet that you have been warned about is what births this false claims of winning even when there is nothing to prove.
Maybe its even necessary to keep the wins to one's self whenever it is the case. I see no need to want to prove a point when you actually responsible for the outcome of whatever investment you have with your funds.
Gambling is something that is supposed to be even private, it doesn't make much sense when people win to announce to prove to people they won their game.  Since their is no need to show up about winning their is no need to lie about telling people that about a game that was a lose and lying it went well to come out win, no need to prove to people about about how your own money is being spent whether it went well or not. When it is necessary for people to say their gambling activities if it is a problem to and they need help from people who can help them solve their problems.

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December 23, 2023, 09:00:12 AM
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Don't be deceived, not every gamblers who actually claims that they won really won.
Some falsefully speculates that they won just because they want to pave an ease to those who has been advising them to quit or limits gambling simply because the gambler has been unlucky to win instead he keep betting over and over without a good bankroll management in their gambling carriers.
They basically do this because they feels disturbed and inconveniences of the people's opinions and advices towards the gamblers unprofitable gambling experiences

I think it all comes down to if you can trust someone or not. If a good friend for example tells me about his gambling experience and he mentions that he was lucky and won a good amount, then I definitely believe him. What is there for him to gain by not telling the truth about his gambling endeavours? In case I would find out that he was lying then our friendship would probably be over and since I know most of my friends for more than 10 years, I believe they will tell me the truth. And then there is the complete opposite, where strangers online sharing their gambling experience. If I don't know someone than I would be very cautious believing in how well they are gambling. A lot of the people on the internet are only after attention and in many cases don't earn their living through gambling directly, but rather the advertising people watch to follow the so called "influencers". 


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December 23, 2023, 10:31:08 AM
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Yes you are right thought, not all. There's definitely someone out there who actually claim they've won and they actually won but not all gamblers are the same. I thought the topic was something like the streamers who live stream playing on a gambling site and actually won, most of them are paid by the gambling site and I am not sure maybe they do something to make them win all the time or maybe because of the big bankroll they have. Well, that's a good example of gamblers claiming that they win but never did actually win. Grin
I believe the internet is not new to anybody anymore, people should be wise nowadays. I don't expect anyone to still believe all what they see online when it comes to high-yield investment packages and similar things, they are not actually as they seem. There are a lot of gimmicks online right now for the money, so it is difficult to know the truth. Because of this, I do not fall for them, but rather try what I see carefully and wisely. Not even the slightest gadget reviewers, I don't trust them unless I have seen such in at least 5 places that state the same thing. Yet, this will include some websites that are indeed trusted. So, it will be so bad for anyone to fall victim and start betting on the view on what the influencers posted only, while some would want to replicate it as well, which makes it worse for them.

Even as daft as that is, do they know the strategy that is working for the influencers or the approach really used when it comes to management and others? This is why they should be careful, and when they want to gamble at all, they should learn it in the standard ways to know the possible gains and the risks, and also to know the dos and don'ts therein. Not that they will be cutting corners like most people do and believing they can make it all the same. It is all about having your own gambling style and making sure you manage your portfolio well. Conclusively, it will always be wise in addition if the person can be disciplined and have the mindset that gambling is not easy to make money from. Maybe this can inculcate the caution needed in the players.

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December 23, 2023, 10:42:44 AM
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Don't be deceived, not every gamblers who actually claims that they won really won.
Some falsefully speculates that they won just because they want to pave an ease to those who has been advising them to quit or limits gambling simply because the gambler has been unlucky to win instead he keep betting over and over without a good bankroll management in their gambling carriers.
They basically do this because they feels disturbed and inconveniences of the people's opinions and advices towards the gamblers unprofitable gambling experiences

It is something that is common in problematic behaviour, lying. Usually, as seems to be the case here, it is to avoid being reprimanded for their behaviour, such as losing money. But in the end all these cases usually hit rock bottom and there is a moment when they lose so much that they themselves make a conscious decision to get out of the hole. Before then it is not worth much effort to tell them anything.

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December 23, 2023, 12:34:32 PM
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Don't be deceived, not every gamblers who actually claims that they won really won.
Some falsefully speculates that they won just because they want to pave an ease to those who has been advising them to quit or limits gambling simply because the gambler has been unlucky to win instead he keep betting over and over without a good bankroll management in their gambling carriers.
They basically do this because they feels disturbed and inconveniences of the people's opinions and advices towards the gamblers unprofitable gambling experiences

I don't gamble like that here in crypto gambling, and even more so, I don't do that either. I only play gambling to pass the time, have fun, and forget about the problem for a while.

I use or do gambling only when I also have gambling. When I don't have a lot of money, I don't gamble; that's all I do. I'm not like others who try to get money just to gamble because they hope that they might get lucky with a small amount and get the jackpot.

Hey, good for you gunhell16, as this is how it should always be, but I'm not sure about what this has to do with the topic about people cheating about the result of their gambling activity.

I guess that, if you don't play with big gains in sight, you are less vulnerable to news about big jackpots that may be fake, but I don't think this is the most typical situation and, on the contrary, a high percentage of their audience will believe what these falsefully speculate. But again, if that is not your case, you're already lucky Smiley

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