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December 23, 2023, 01:01:35 PM
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Truthfully, the disdain that comes with loosing on a bet that you have been warned about is what births this false claims of winning even when there is nothing to prove.
Maybe its even necessary to keep the wins to one's self whenever it is the case. I see no need to want to prove a point when you actually responsible for the outcome of whatever investment you have with your funds.
Gambling is something that is supposed to be even private, it doesn't make much sense when people win to announce to prove to people they won their game.  Since their is no need to show up about winning their is no need to lie about telling people that about a game that was a lose and lying it went well to come out win, no need to prove to people about about how your own money is being spent whether it went well or not. When it is necessary for people to say their gambling activities if it is a problem to and they need help from people who can help them solve their problems.
Well, even though we say it doesn't make sense, some people announce their winnings in gambling. They aim to show off their winnings to other people so that they believe they are professional gamblers. But when they lose, they will not show off their loss. They will just keep quiet and act as if they are not gambling and will say that they are taking a break from gambling. But if they are wise gamblers, they will not tell anyone about their wins and losses to other people because they really guard their privacy regarding their gambling activities. They don't want to get into any trouble with the people around them, so they choose to hide the results they get from gambling.

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December 23, 2023, 01:09:20 PM
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Don't be deceived, not every gamblers who actually claims that they won really won.
Some falsefully speculates that they won just because they want to pave an ease to those who has been advising them to quit or limits gambling simply because the gambler has been unlucky to win instead he keep betting over and over without a good bankroll management in their gambling carriers.
They basically do this because they feels disturbed and inconveniences of the people's opinions and advices towards the gamblers unprofitable gambling experiences
It is a case of if you can't beat them join them. How stupid and crazy. Why fake what you are not. I don't think anyone is going to be at you up if you win or lose.
There is so much peer pressure to fit in. It is like what I was taught in my psychology class about in group and out group. And I know that these are the folks with a high propensity to be addicted to gambling.

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December 23, 2023, 01:21:38 PM
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Don't be deceived, not every gamblers who actually claims that they won really won.
Some falsefully speculates that they won just because they want to pave an ease to those who has been advising them to quit or limits gambling simply because the gambler has been unlucky to win instead he keep betting over and over without a good bankroll management in their gambling carriers.
They basically do this because they feels disturbed and inconveniences of the people's opinions and advices towards the gamblers unprofitable gambling experiences
It is a case of if you can't beat them join them. How stupid and crazy. Why fake what you are not. I don't think anyone is going to be at you up if you win or lose.
There is so much peer pressure to fit in. It is like what I was taught in my psychology class about in group and out group. And I know that these are the folks with a high propensity to be addicted to gambling.
The person responsible for the act is highly addicted to gambling. They would resort to deception in order to continue satisfying their addiction, despite being advised to quit. While they may feel disturbed by those who advise them to quit, it's important that they wake up and recognize the harmful impact their addiction can have on their life. Those who offer guidance on quitting or limiting their gambling have their best interests at heart and are trying to prevent them from ruining their life.
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December 23, 2023, 02:05:23 PM
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Yes you are right thought, not all. There's definitely someone out there who actually claim they've won and they actually won but not all gamblers are the same. I thought the topic was something like the streamers who live stream playing on a gambling site and actually won, most of them are paid by the gambling site and I am not sure maybe they do something to make them win all the time or maybe because of the big bankroll they have. Well, that's a good example of gamblers claiming that they win but never did actually win. Grin
Everything you see online, especially from Influencers who are promoting gambling applications or websites, isn't always legitimate, in my opinion. Because they stand to gain even more from the promotion, and the site management will pay them as you mentioned. Unless they can demonstrate in real time that they were actually playing the game and winning a significant amount of money. in order for us, as gamblers, to be aware of the methods and strategies they employ in the game they endorse.

For this reason, a lot of gamblers have fallen victim to online fraud.  I don't think these sources are all that trustworthy. Unless a friend who I know, and I trust introduces me to the game. Regarding the topic, there isn't much we can do to change the delusional thinking of gamblers who insist they win while, in fact, they lose; instead, I think they should see a psychiatrist in order to become well and receive assistance in cutting back on their gaming. However, as gamblers, we ought to be aware of our betting limits and maximums.

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December 23, 2023, 02:25:43 PM
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This is the reason why you shouldn't easily believe all the things that you see and read online and even hear in person. Some people who don't want their name or reputation to be tainted will do their very best to claim they are continuously winning. And they do it for other various reasons alongside with pretending to be a good gambler. Some do it to impress people, some do it to encourage others to gamble too, and some do it so that they could brag about the winnings and strategies they have. So you should really learn how to decipher who is telling the truth and who isn't so you won't fall victim into their story, especially if they are introducing you into gambling.

To add, some are even paid to do it to encourage people to sign up, deposit and play. Some posts are sponsored to gain engagement and traffic on the site. So verifying it yourself will definitely help big time.
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December 23, 2023, 02:27:12 PM
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Honestly, I've never thought about the reasons why they make claims that don't match reality, but it seems like something drives them to do things like that, whether it's to brag to others including some of their friends that they are able to excel in terms of luck compared to others or other reasons.
Gamblers claim to have been cheated by the casino for different reasons. The one you mentioned is a pretty common one and it's directly associated with ego and self-affirmation necessity towards a group they are inserted. But there are another reasons as well. Vengeance against the casino is also a common one, as they can't win, they will sabotage the casino somehow in retribution, so they directly attack on where it's more important for the house: their reputation on the gambling community.

Another possible reason is self-defense mechanism of denial. They just can't accept the fact they lost, because all the probabilities pointed the other way round. They might have faced an unlikely loss and that is too much to be grasped at first impression. So the first reaction is to claim they have won and the casino is cheating. In my opinion this is the minor evil among every reasons why someone could claim to have won a bet they never did, because it doesn't characterize maliciousness in first degree, rather it's an automatic emotional response to a sudden and improbable event.

Honestly for the issue of whether they have been cheated or not by the casino I think it is beyond our control and on the other hand for me personally honestly I have never found or even just heard about some casinos that cheat gamblers which certainly makes it difficult for them to be able to win so I think if there is indeed one of them who has difficulty getting a win then I would call that they are very far from luck, I just think it's as simple as that for this issue.

Yes, the inability to accept reality is the main problem that ultimately makes them act out of control usually, which is why we should prioritize understanding the field especially at the beginning of our involvement, I think it's very common that gambling is always about winning and losing. With the right level of understanding especially regarding the possible risks then I think it is less likely for them to make unreal claims of winning, they will be more aware that there is no point in doing so, after all I think winning in gambling is not something that should be bragged about because after all it is natural to lose even if it happens often, you have to go back to the initial understanding that this activity is only about winning and losing.

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December 24, 2023, 03:35:33 AM
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This is the reason why you shouldn't easily believe all the things that you see and read online and even hear in person. Some people who don't want their name or reputation to be tainted will do their very best to claim they are continuously winning. And they do it for other various reasons alongside with pretending to be a good gambler. Some do it to impress people, some do it to encourage others to gamble too, and some do it so that they could brag about the winnings and strategies they have. So you should really learn how to decipher who is telling the truth and who isn't so you won't fall victim into their story, especially if they are introducing you into gambling.

To add, some are even paid to do it to encourage people to sign up, deposit and play. Some posts are sponsored to gain engagement and traffic on the site. So verifying it yourself will definitely help big time.

True, I have an acquaintance who always claim that he won big amount in one of the famouse casino online app in our country and he even shows us a proof of his winning but in reality, he just took that from someone else's post. He used those posts to convince us to play and join him, I think that was one of his strategies to get a lot of referral and invites.



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December 24, 2023, 06:41:04 AM
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True, I have an acquaintance who always claim that he won big amount in one of the famouse casino online app in our country and he even shows us a proof of his winning but in reality, he just took that from someone else's post. He used those posts to convince us to play and join him, I think that was one of his strategies to get a lot of referral and invites.
Your acquaintance must have luck that always accompanies him when playing gambling so that he managed to win a large amount of money. But if you find out that he is lying to you, you should not believe him and just agree with what he says. You also don't know whether he can really win big, especially if you are not with him when he gambles. But in my opinion, people who show posts on social media about their wins just want to show off to other friends. It wasn't a good idea to show off because there might be a bad person who would make him the target of his crimes.
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December 24, 2023, 08:49:42 AM
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Don't be deceived, not every gamblers who actually claims that they won really won.
Some falsefully speculates that they won just because they want to pave an ease to those who has been advising them to quit or limits gambling simply because the gambler has been unlucky to win instead he keep betting over and over without a good bankroll management in their gambling carriers.
They basically do this because they feels disturbed and inconveniences of the people's opinions and advices towards the gamblers unprofitable gambling experiences
It is a case of if you can't beat them join them. How stupid and crazy. Why fake what you are not. I don't think anyone is going to be at you up if you win or lose.
There is so much peer pressure to fit in. It is like what I was taught in my psychology class about in group and out group. And I know that these are the folks with a high propensity to be addicted to gambling.
Why sound so surprised? High percentage of people likes faking everything, apart from gambling, and the funny thing is people look down on those who have everything but doesn't look like they have it, but its for the best if they don't see you as someone who have it all because it makes you safer than everyone knowing you are a fruitful person.

This is also a part why people don't progress in life, when you confuse yourself that you have gotten to a higher post or level you will start relaxing, in your fake made up world, as crazy as it sounds, there are many people that have done this.

And the truth is, for a problem to be solved you first have to accept that you have the problem, and secondly, for you to get rid of the problem, you need to put in the work, so imagine someone who have income problem faking it, saying to himself that he is rich, with nothing? Such people will never get anything done.

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December 24, 2023, 09:18:50 AM
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Don't be deceived, not every gamblers who actually claims that they won really won.
Some falsefully speculates that they won just because they want to pave an ease to those who has been advising them to quit or limits gambling simply because the gambler has been unlucky to win instead he keep betting over and over without a good bankroll management in their gambling carriers.
They basically do this because they feels disturbed and inconveniences of the people's opinions and advices towards the gamblers unprofitable gambling experiences
It is a case of if you can't beat them join them. How stupid and crazy. Why fake what you are not. I don't think anyone is going to be at you up if you win or lose.
There is so much peer pressure to fit in. It is like what I was taught in my psychology class about in group and out group. And I know that these are the folks with a high propensity to be addicted to gambling.
Why sound so surprised? High percentage of people likes faking everything, apart from gambling, and the funny thing is people look down on those who have everything but doesn't look like they have it, but its for the best if they don't see you as someone who have it all because it makes you safer than everyone knowing you are a fruitful person.

This is also a part why people don't progress in life, when you confuse yourself that you have gotten to a higher post or level you will start relaxing, in your fake made up world, as crazy as it sounds, there are many people that have done this.

And the truth is, for a problem to be solved you first have to accept that you have the problem, and secondly, for you to get rid of the problem, you need to put in the work, so imagine someone who have income problem faking it, saying to himself that he is rich, with nothing? Such people will never get anything done.

Indeed, it is not surprising that people could fake and lie not only in the gambling industry but in many things as well. Some people are actually cruel, they really deceive people by telling them information that they haven't even experienced yet just for them to try it at their own risk. Not only that you are lying to your friends, family, partner, etc. but also to yourself cause you are building that reputation which is a fake, just imagine them finding out that you did not really win any sht and it will backfire on you. I think one of the reasons that people do this kind of thing is just to feel comfort that they are already a big person to others. Which I think a worse thing to use to escape reality.

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December 24, 2023, 09:19:50 AM
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Don't be deceived, not every gamblers who actually claims that they won really won.
Some falsefully speculates that they won just because they want to pave an ease to those who has been advising them to quit or limits gambling simply because the gambler has been unlucky to win instead he keep betting over and over without a good bankroll management in their gambling carriers.
They basically do this because they feels disturbed and inconveniences of the people's opinions and advices towards the gamblers unprofitable gambling experiences

There are all sorts of motivations that cause people to lie and it's probably best to not try to define only one reason. Some people live in a world of denial, where they have lost so much money they need a grain of happiness to hold on. Others may actually find joy in simply deceiving people and whatever sort of sick kick they get from doing that. There may be an element of shame or simply not even realizing how much they've spent up until the current point, they just tend to remember the big wins rather than the many small profits. Then some may actually have a financial motivation in mind, where they are getting paid to make up a story about how much they've won while playing for a certain site, as a form of advertising.

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December 24, 2023, 12:15:24 PM
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Assuming we believe the lies, what will happen next? Try it out and see, after the try out what do you think will happen? The truth, so it's not a big problem when people believe in the stories of gamblers, either truth or lies it doesn't change anything, you try it out, you get your answer.

How long can someone lies last long in gambling? It's either they get lucky or not, the same is also for you, even if you use the exact same skill they use, the results ain't going to be the same, if you understand the true meaning of luck you won't even take stories from gamblers so serious.

Some gamblers like myself knows that luck is all you need to make money in gambling, there is no one that can tell me otherwise, if you are not in luck you will lose your money, know this and know peace with gambling.

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December 30, 2023, 03:45:17 AM
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Indeed, it is not surprising that people could fake and lie not only in the gambling industry but in many things as well. Some people are actually cruel, they really deceive people by telling them information that they haven't even experienced yet just for them to try it at their own risk. Not only that you are lying to your friends, family, partner, etc. but also to yourself cause you are building that reputation which is a fake, just imagine them finding out that you did not really win any sht and it will backfire on you. I think one of the reasons that people do this kind of thing is just to feel comfort that they are already a big person to others. Which I think a worse thing to use to escape reality.
People lie way more online because they can get away with it very easily, so if they lie about winning a huge bet they only need to use any of the many options they have when it comes to image editing software and they can easily sustain their lie this way, but sometimes those people lie so much they believe their own lies and they actually think of themselves as amazing gamblers, but if their level of delusion reaches that stage their wallet balance will always remind them they are lying.
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The anonymity and accessibility of online platforms may encourage some individuals to exaggerate or fabricate their achievements, especially in activities like gambling. The availability of image editing tools makes it easier for them to create deceptive evidence. The text also raises the interesting psychological phenomenon of individuals believing their lies after repeated deception. However, it emphasizes that despite their self-delusion, the financial consequences of their actions serve as a tangible reality check.
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The anonymity and accessibility of online platforms may encourage some individuals to exaggerate or fabricate their achievements, especially in activities like gambling. The availability of image editing tools makes it easier for them to create deceptive evidence. The text also raises the interesting psychological phenomenon of individuals believing their lies after repeated deception. However, it emphasizes that despite their self-delusion, the financial consequences of their actions serve as a tangible reality check.

What you have said has been happening that some gamblers parade themselves as good analyst and predictors because they have gone to edit winnings online and make it to look as their winning by posting it on their social media handles and then deceive other gamblers to ask for prediction for exchange of money. The gullible gamblers fall for this because they believe what they have seen not knowing it is fake. I have personally seen someone who has being doing it until he was caught to be faking such winnings as it was found out that his predictions were consistently failing.

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December 30, 2023, 06:24:55 AM
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What you have said has been happening that some gamblers parade themselves as good analyst and predictors because they have gone to edit winnings online and make it to look as their winning by posting it on their social media handles and then deceive other gamblers to ask for prediction for exchange of money. The gullible gamblers fall for this because they believe what they have seen not knowing it is fake. I have personally seen someone who has being doing it until he was caught to be faking such winnings as it was found out that his predictions were consistently failing.
from this incident we learned a very valuable lesson that whatever other people tell us about big wins or consistent wins, we should not believe too much in stories like that. In fact, I am skeptical of all stories on social media and dont believe in the existence of predictors. in the end it's just cheating. all this because I once made the mistake of believing in predictors who paid a certain amount of money but the results were very bad and from that experience I became skeptical of the news of consistent big wins from someone who spread it on social media.

sometimes we as gamblers are too easily fooled, just by consistently showing big wins we are tempted to follow his method. meanwhile, if we think logically, if someone is a predictor, why would they open a service like that? wouldn't it be better for him to borrow a large amount of money from the bank and use it to bet to get very big results if it is true that he has a strategy that can always produce wins.

from these facts we can think logically that almost the majority of cases like that will end in scam.

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January 01, 2024, 05:03:45 AM
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Don't be deceived, not every gamblers who actually claims that they won really won.
Some falsefully speculates that they won just because they want to pave an ease to those who has been advising them to quit or limits gambling simply because the gambler has been unlucky to win instead he keep betting over and over without a good bankroll management in their gambling carriers.
They basically do this because they feels disturbed and inconveniences of the people's opinions and advices towards the gamblers unprofitable gambling experiences
in the end who is the loser here? they are just fooling themselves to look  successful in their bets and activities in gambling? I am not sure  if there are even others that has this attitude but to me this is not bringing any good implications to the gamblers involving this.
instead of pretending then why not just keep the silence? we can hide our online gambling to anyone because we need nothing to prove them mate,it is our money so it is our decisions.

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January 01, 2024, 06:00:47 AM
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It's an ego thing, you don't have to worry too much about these kinds of people, they're not going to change anytime soon so when you encounter them, do what your father/mother does with your mother/father when they're talking or arguing, let them win and tell them that they're right and that you agree with what they're saying. They have a hard time with reality so it's a relief for them to do this, let them have their lies and be good with it, it's a worthless squabble to get into anyway if you call them out plus they're not hurting anyone so only call them out when someone's getting hurt from all that lies.



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January 02, 2024, 09:55:31 AM
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They only speak loudly it is better not to argue with those who forcefully demand something. They tend to do whatever is going on in their mind and they are usually people who get involved in activities and arguments which will turn into quarrels. They should be told that if they win the bet by trick then win more. When he realizes his mistake he will stop such activities on his own.

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January 06, 2024, 10:58:52 PM
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They only speak loudly it is better not to argue with those who forcefully demand something. They tend to do whatever is going on in their mind and they are usually people who get involved in activities and arguments which will turn into quarrels. They should be told that if they win the bet by trick then win more. When he realizes his mistake he will stop such activities on his own.
There are people who are really that highly reactive on something which is obviously not true on which if they do have that chance then they would really be making out such comment which might lead into argumentation if that someone who do make out some claims would really be insisting that he's really making some bucks rather than on losing. It would be normal that human beings would really be on such denial on the time that experiencing such problem. So its better that you shouldnt really be that making those kind of comments and just let them be on learning those
common life lessons on which it would really be just that common that things turns out to be always in the end of the line if we do speak about learning.

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