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January 17, 2024, 03:52:11 PM
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Don't be deceived, not every gamblers who actually claims that they won really won.
Some falsefully speculates that they won just because they want to pave an ease to those who has been advising them to quit or limits gambling simply because the gambler has been unlucky to win instead he keep betting over and over without a good bankroll management in their gambling carriers.
They basically do this because they feels disturbed and inconveniences of the people's opinions and advices towards the gamblers unprofitable gambling experiences

Some of the stories are just exaggerated, once they experience winnings they keep spreading out the news about how they won, how their journey they go in and what are their struggles, some of them get inspired but let's face the reality not as always gamblers win the game, it takes a lot of money before they get another win, and not all of the faith of the gambler is the same some people are luck that day and others won't. Gambling is about money and risky plays with a different gambler that has different stories.

They do that in order to get more people to support them on their delusion. That's the only benefit I can see to it. It could also be converted to referrals if that's what the person is going for. Kind of smart if you ask me but it takes a lot of persuasion for people to do something risky even if it promises of fortune and monetary rewards.

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January 17, 2024, 04:25:48 PM
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Don't be deceived, not every gamblers who actually claims that they won really won.
Some falsefully speculates that they won just because they want to pave an ease to those who has been advising them to quit or limits gambling simply because the gambler has been unlucky to win instead he keep betting over and over without a good bankroll management in their gambling carriers.
They basically do this because they feels disturbed and inconveniences of the people's opinions and advices towards the gamblers unprofitable gambling experiences

Some of the stories are just exaggerated, once they experience winnings they keep spreading out the news about how they won, how their journey they go in and what are their struggles, some of them get inspired but let's face the reality not as always gamblers win the game, it takes a lot of money before they get another win, and not all of the faith of the gambler is the same some people are luck that day and others won't. Gambling is about money and risky plays with a different gambler that has different stories.

They do that in order to get more people to support them on their delusion. That's the only benefit I can see to it. It could also be converted to referrals if that's what the person is going for. Kind of smart if you ask me but it takes a lot of persuasion for people to do something risky even if it promises of fortune and monetary rewards.

But stop lying to yourself and spreading lies to others. Because in fact, when we talk about gambling, that's not the case. And believe it or not, the more often you spread the news, news about the victory you have won, the more people will ridicule you.

Someone talked about his success in gambling because he managed to get a number of very big wins, but in fact his life was still difficult and even when he wanted to gamble, he had to take out a loan first. So stop continuing to talk nonsense, because other people won't believe what they hear, they will only believe it if they see it in person.
And I personally don't have enough time to listen to things like that, because there are still more useful things I can do than just listening to nonsense that has no meaning at all. And I also once met someone who behaved like that, who kept bragging about his winnings in gambling, but in the end he asked me to pay for his gambling and promised he would return more than what I gave... and after listening At these words, I could only laugh and slowly leave it.

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January 17, 2024, 04:40:46 PM
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I could easily imagine there is an important percentage of bettors out there on the internet who have chosen to lie about their winnings in some specific occasions of the betting career because they have been afraid of the public opinion and the opinion of those close to them about losing money to a casino. There is people who lie and deceive others for reasons which at first glance does not make any sense to us, so it should not be a surprise to anyone the fact someone could be able to lie about money.

It becomes specially serious when the person who is betting uses it as a way to promote themselves in social Media somehow, in that case it would not be just about deceiving person around his intimate circle but a massive one.

If anyone feels they cannot openly talk about their losses, when it would better not to gamble at all or reduce the wager, because when one starts to lie in such way, it would not take much before turning into a pathological liar.

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January 17, 2024, 05:11:09 PM
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But as I noticed, gambling winners usually never say publicly that they win, they prefer to keep it silent which is why it was unbelievable to someone who claim that they win as it is possibly a big lie.

Maybe the purpose of such exposure is to grab attention and give motivation to the other gamblers to gamble more, a sort of mind manipulation. A strategy that is usually practiced by some sites hiring influential individuals to show their (fake winnings).

I feel that the gambler who is making others believe that he won some money while he didn't may be doing that to take away shame from himself for not winning his betting for sometime because really it is shameful that you are gambling and you are not winning so you can be forced to pretend you have won in the presence of your friends but while you are still hoping to win, so this could be a reason.

Another reason could be to show off that you are a consistent winning and always cashing out making people to believe your prediction. This is the strategy that those who sell predictions use. They paste on their social media handles games that they didn't bet as if they bet and won it just to attract people to subscribe to their gambling channel.
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January 17, 2024, 05:29:18 PM
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I could easily imagine there is an important percentage of bettors out there on the internet who have chosen to lie about their winnings in some specific occasions of the betting career because they have been afraid of the public opinion and the opinion of those close to them about losing money to a casino. There is people who lie and deceive others for reasons which at first glance does not make any sense to us, so it should not be a surprise to anyone the fact someone could be able to lie about money.

But why do they have to lie online about that, If they are afraid of judgement from some individuals that are closed to them they can lie offline but not online. I think most of the lies online about what they got from the games they were playing is for deceiving other gamblers to believe that they're experts and if they follow them, they can make money as the individual lying is claiming to make, those individuals lying online are doing that to get followers.

Many influencers online are lying and the gambling influencers are also lying which is why you won't see them losing. You'll only see them making profits all the time but when you try to copy them you'll lose. Some of the influencers are also working for the casino and sportsbooks to bring more customers to them and they make profits from doing this. Influencers are the worst individuals to follow online.

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January 17, 2024, 05:45:49 PM
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But as I noticed, gambling winners usually never say publicly that they win, they prefer to keep it silent which is why it was unbelievable to someone who claim that they win as it is possibly a big lie.

Maybe the purpose of such exposure is to grab attention and give motivation to the other gamblers to gamble more, a sort of mind manipulation. A strategy that is usually practiced by some sites hiring influential individuals to show their (fake winnings).

I feel that the gambler who is making others believe that he won some money while he didn't may be doing that to take away shame from himself for not winning his betting for sometime because really it is shameful that you are gambling and you are not winning so you can be forced to pretend you have won in the presence of your friends but while you are still hoping to win, so this could be a reason.

Another reason could be to show off that you are a consistent winning and always cashing out making people to believe your prediction. This is the strategy that those who sell predictions use. They paste on their social media handles games that they didn't bet as if they bet and won it just to attract people to subscribe to their gambling channel.
I honestly do not know about others, but for me, there is absolutely nothing shameful in losing a bet consistently, as long as money being lost is not one that is significant, this is why it's very important for us to always stake only what we can afford to lose.

In the part of the world where I live, pretending to win a bet when you have not won anything could mean incurring more expenses for yourself, because as a matter of fact, guys must hold you and will request that you give them their own share of your winning, you don't have to give them money actually, but you will be required to buy bottles of drinks, plates of pepper soup (depending on how much you claim you won), and this is completely normal because when next someone else in the circle wins, he or she will also celebrate the winning in the same manner.

So, over here, claiming to have won a bet when you really have won nothing can be a very big mistake, and could cost to alot of money if you are not careful.

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January 17, 2024, 06:13:54 PM
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I honestly do not know about others, but for me, there is absolutely nothing shameful in losing a bet consistently, as long as money being lost is not one that is significant, this is why it's very important for us to always stake only what we can afford to lose.
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There is nothing to be ashamed of if gambling is only used for entertainment or only a small amount of funds are lost.
After all, the deal from the beginning, gambling uses money that will not be disputed when losing.
The allocation of funds for gambling has certainly been agreed upon, and losing will not make you regret.

But there are also people who gamble and lose, find it very embarrassing, because they never get the winning target that they always want to achieve.
It's like waiting for a miracle whether every bet can make a profit.

And some gamblers don't actually win the bet, even though they hit the jackpot.
Seeing how the history of bets they do with many losses, if the accumulated losses are more dominant and still lose, the comparison between 1 win with 10 losses.

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January 17, 2024, 06:19:03 PM
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But as I noticed, gambling winners usually never say publicly that they win, they prefer to keep it silent which is why it was unbelievable to someone who claim that they win as it is possibly a big lie.

Maybe the purpose of such exposure is to grab attention and give motivation to the other gamblers to gamble more, a sort of mind manipulation. A strategy that is usually practiced by some sites hiring influential individuals to show their (fake winnings).

I feel that the gambler who is making others believe that he won some money while he didn't may be doing that to take away shame from himself for not winning his betting for sometime because really it is shameful that you are gambling and you are not winning so you can be forced to pretend you have won in the presence of your friends but while you are still hoping to win, so this could be a reason.

Another reason could be to show off that you are a consistent winning and always cashing out making people to believe your prediction. This is the strategy that those who sell predictions use. They paste on their social media handles games that they didn't bet as if they bet and won it just to attract people to subscribe to their gambling channel.
I honestly do not know about others, but for me, there is absolutely nothing shameful in losing a bet consistently, as long as money being lost is not one that is significant, this is why it's very important for us to always stake only what we can afford to lose.

In the part of the world where I live, pretending to win a bet when you have not won anything could mean incurring more expenses for yourself, because as a matter of fact, guys must hold you and will request that you give them their own share of your winning, you don't have to give them money actually, but you will be required to buy bottles of drinks, plates of pepper soup (depending on how much you claim you won), and this is completely normal because when next someone else in the circle wins, he or she will also celebrate the winning in the same manner.

So, over here, claiming to have won a bet when you really have won nothing can be a very big mistake, and could cost to alot of money if you are not careful.

in the boxing and ufc threads, users are sharing their bet picks. i don't see them embarrassed, they just pick the wrong fighter and their analysis but most probably just unlucky to have listened to someone else pick.  nothing is wrong in losing, we all lose and they are not the only ones to have chosen the underdog. i lose many times but lying that you won is like losing twice. you know to yourself it's not true.









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January 17, 2024, 06:23:25 PM
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I honestly do not know about others, but for me, there is absolutely nothing shameful in losing a bet consistently, as long as money being lost is not one that is significant, this is why it's very important for us to always stake only what we can afford to lose.
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There is nothing to be ashamed of if gambling is only used for entertainment or only a small amount of funds are lost.
After all, the deal from the beginning, gambling uses money that will not be disputed when losing.
The allocation of funds for gambling has certainly been agreed upon, and losing will not make you regret.

But there are also people who gamble and lose, find it very embarrassing, because they never get the winning target that they always want to achieve.
It's like waiting for a miracle whether every bet can make a profit.

And some gamblers don't actually win the bet, even though they hit the jackpot.
Seeing how the history of bets they do with many losses, if the accumulated losses are more dominant and still lose, the comparison between 1 win with 10 losses.
It all matters on the money that you had spent out on which this is something that would really be that important when you do deal up with gambling and on the  time
that you do make out those kind of reactions on which we do know that this isnt something new on where people wont really be bothered much on how much they have
lost and really that desperately aiming on hitting up their goals and targets no matter what. Self realizations in regarding into their actions will really be just that be applied or would really be
that minded on the time that they will really be experiencing those hard or tough situations. People do only mess up just because of that messy kind of thinking and perceiving on things
which it isnt even right.

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January 17, 2024, 06:42:57 PM
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But as I noticed, gambling winners usually never say publicly that they win, they prefer to keep it silent which is why it was unbelievable to someone who claim that they win as it is possibly a big lie.

Maybe the purpose of such exposure is to grab attention and give motivation to the other gamblers to gamble more, a sort of mind manipulation. A strategy that is usually practiced by some sites hiring influential individuals to show their (fake winnings).

I feel that the gambler who is making others believe that he won some money while he didn't may be doing that to take away shame from himself for not winning his betting for sometime because really it is shameful that you are gambling and you are not winning so you can be forced to pretend you have won in the presence of your friends but while you are still hoping to win, so this could be a reason.

Another reason could be to show off that you are a consistent winning and always cashing out making people to believe your prediction. This is the strategy that those who sell predictions use. They paste on their social media handles games that they didn't bet as if they bet and won it just to attract people to subscribe to their gambling channel.
I honestly do not know about others, but for me, there is absolutely nothing shameful in losing a bet consistently, as long as money being lost is not one that is significant, this is why it's very important for us to always stake only what we can afford to lose.

In the part of the world where I live, pretending to win a bet when you have not won anything could mean incurring more expenses for yourself, because as a matter of fact, guys must hold you and will request that you give them their own share of your winning, you don't have to give them money actually, but you will be required to buy bottles of drinks, plates of pepper soup (depending on how much you claim you won), and this is completely normal because when next someone else in the circle wins, he or she will also celebrate the winning in the same manner.

So, over here, claiming to have won a bet when you really have won nothing can be a very big mistake, and could cost to alot of money if you are not careful.

in the boxing and ufc threads, users are sharing their bet picks. i don't see them embarrassed, they just pick the wrong fighter and their analysis but most probably just unlucky to have listened to someone else pick.  nothing is wrong in losing, we all lose and they are not the only ones to have chosen the underdog. i lose many times but lying that you won is like losing twice. you know to yourself it's not true.

Exactly the point bud, it's like a common proverb well known in this part of my country where it's commonly believed that, selling a plot of land to raise money to bury a dead person, is like losing two relatives and burying the both of dead bodies at the same time.

What does this mean? It's simple, a land is an asset that appreciates in value over time, but a dead body is a waste, that will go into the ground and become a dust, it does not bring any value or benefit to the living, when you lose something of value, that could possibly and potentially make you a millionaire in the future, to dispose off a waste, something of no value to you or to anyone else, then you have simply lost on both sides, a relative and an asset.

When you announce to your physical friends that you've won a bet, when you really have not won anything, you incur expenses rather than get sympathy, you lose more money on celebrating with your friends in order to prove you really won, rather than get support, and possible help and tips that will help you win your next bet/game, you make people see you as who you are not, and this opens you up to life threatening dangers, like kidnapping, because you could become a potential target for kidnappers, depending on how much you go about telling people you have won, when in reality, you have won nothing.

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January 17, 2024, 06:46:41 PM
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I could easily imagine there is an important percentage of bettors out there on the internet who have chosen to lie about their winnings in some specific occasions of the betting career because they have been afraid of the public opinion and the opinion of those close to them about losing money to a casino. There is people who lie and deceive others for reasons which at first glance does not make any sense to us, so it should not be a surprise to anyone the fact someone could be able to lie about money.

But why do they have to lie online about that, If they are afraid of judgement from some individuals that are closed to them they can lie offline but not online. I think most of the lies online about what they got from the games they were playing is for deceiving other gamblers to believe that they're experts and if they follow them, they can make money as the individual lying is claiming to make, those individuals lying online are doing that to get followers.

Many influencers online are lying and the gambling influencers are also lying which is why you won't see them losing. You'll only see them making profits all the time but when you try to copy them you'll lose. Some of the influencers are also working for the casino and sportsbooks to bring more customers to them and they make profits from doing this. Influencers are the worst individuals to follow online.

Influencers make up those lies to be able to deceive their followers and drive out funds through them. The online space for most gamblers is an avenue to claim success in gambling. Since people on social media platforms derive joy seeing lies and fake posts, it has allowed for the need for more wrong claims and deceits. The problem arises more when the followers gamble because of the information they've seen on their favorite influencer's page. The online lies seem a bit fair because the person could be generating some impressions through the fake contents, compared to the offline lies where the gambler gains nothing in return for lying. They only do that to impress their friends and make them believe, just like the online gambler, that they're experts in gambling. So, they can pass the message across other acquittances that he's indeed sure of what he's doing in gambling.

Those attitudes don't help the gambler and could lead him to depression and anxiety like most influencers suffer stress and depression, trying to impress their followers. No reasonable explanation is satisfactory to why gamblers lie to their friends. Isn't it some problem gambling signs? Or a more reliable alibi for letting those pressurizing them to stop gambling, overlook their complaints and conclude that the player is not a bad gambler as they may have thought. Their bank roll suffers it, and the player would find gambling for a longer period hard to achieve. As he takes money from his bank roll to claim as his earnings. That's so weird. He wouldn't feel on the inside, while watching his friends devour the money, he's saving for gambling purposes.

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January 17, 2024, 06:56:34 PM
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This is a common scam attack vector and it’s good to be alert about it
Casino owners knows
Many of the posts we see, even here, accusing some big websites are fake evidence created to try to stain the website reputation

But of course there are true ones too. One have to learn to separate one from the other

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January 17, 2024, 06:59:54 PM
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I still can't understand the reason for doing this, for someone to claim what is not, when you never win but decided to take it to your fellows that you did just to entice them, this alone is worth enough to remind us not to always believe in everything people are saying, some things might be lies, people can flatter stake and deceives, in gambling, we shouldn't engage it because we wanted to please others of what we are not, we are to focus ourselves on having fun in it and be sincere with every dealings we are making through it, after all, we owe no one accountable on how we gambles.
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January 17, 2024, 07:20:46 PM
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I still can't understand the reason for doing this, for someone to claim what is not, when you never win but decided to take it to your fellows that you did just to entice them, this alone is worth enough to remind us not to always believe in everything people are saying, some things might be lies, people can flatter stake and deceives, in gambling, we shouldn't engage it because we wanted to please others of what we are not, we are to focus ourselves on having fun in it and be sincere with every dealings we are making through it, after all, we owe no one accountable on how we gambles.

Yes that's right, I also don't understand what exactly their purpose is why they claim something they never actually got, I think one of the reasons that might be in their minds is that they want to be someone who is superior to others or some of their friends, but will your friends just believe what you say? No buddy, it's not that easy to believe in something if there is absolutely no evidence shown, and if you do provide real evidence that you really get a win then obviously it doesn't matter because those of us who see will also easily believe that you really managed to win.

But if you don't provide any evidence at all then obviously what your friends have in mind is just "all that nonsense", to be honest I've been in a situation like this where one of my gambling friends said that he managed to get a big win by only bringing very small capital, like he got $500 by only bringing $0 capital, 5, yes maybe I could have believed it because in gambling anything can happen if you are very lucky, but on the other hand he did not provide any evidence and at the same time even borrowed money from me to buy food, haha yes that's very ridiculous and with him borrowing money to alone it already proves that what he said was a lie. So the point is don't trust easily and just take it as the wind passes by and the other thing is I agree with your advice that we must be responsible gamblers for the gambling activities we do and focus on having fun.

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January 17, 2024, 08:44:45 PM
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I still can't understand the reason for doing this, for someone to claim what is not, when you never win but decided to take it to your fellows that you did just to entice them...
People do this because they are scammers. They want to earn money in illegitimate and disgusting ways. The practice of forging accusations against someone or against a service is mainly used by blackmailers, people who attempt to make profit by asking money to stay quiet. While their target doesn't pay them, they continue spreading lies and negative reviews in order to destroy the reputation of their targets. So these people who are attacked may feel cornered and oppressed by such accusations, and to get rid of them as faster as possible, they do as the blackmailers ask.

At least, that is what these scums expect to happen. But on internet it's not so easy for scammers to succeed on this field... It uses to be more effective for scammers when this practice is executed in real world, as the threats seem more damaging and may go beyond destroying reputations, but also causing physical harm, therefore the mental pressure and torture is much more intense over the victims.

In fact, this practice has been really common at children and teenagers' schools, executed by bullies, who blackmailed and humiliated others in public to get what they want from them and build their own reputations as bad guys who nobody could confront.

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January 17, 2024, 10:13:54 PM
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I could easily imagine there is an important percentage of bettors out there on the internet who have chosen to lie about their winnings in some specific occasions of the betting career because they have been afraid of the public opinion and the opinion of those close to them about losing money to a casino. There is people who lie and deceive others for reasons which at first glance does not make any sense to us, so it should not be a surprise to anyone the fact someone could be able to lie about money.

But why do they have to lie online about that, If they are afraid of judgement from some individuals that are closed to them they can lie offline but not online. I think most of the lies online about what they got from the games they were playing is for deceiving other gamblers to believe that they're experts and if they follow them, they can make money as the individual lying is claiming to make, those individuals lying online are doing that to get followers.

Many influencers online are lying and the gambling influencers are also lying which is why you won't see them losing. You'll only see them making profits all the time but when you try to copy them you'll lose. Some of the influencers are also working for the casino and sportsbooks to bring more customers to them and they make profits from doing this. Influencers are the worst individuals to follow online.

Sure, that is what I mean. There are ulterior motives most of the times when people on the internet try to lie about money. In the context of social Media, I have been told and read before that it is an ecosystem where much of the people pretend to be someone who they are not in reality: excessive use of filters for pictures, staged events or vacations, even undisclosed advertising in their publications. Lying about possitive results in gambling is just another way to market oneself as someone who is better at something than the average people out there.
The bad news is that there is not easy way to catch those how are dishonest about their wins in social media, if they were asked to do predictions about a match before it started, they would try to avoid the question somehow and still share their positive earnings once the match is over.

It is quite sad how now in this era of the internet we cannot trust anything we see withour first considering the possibility of if being the result of artificial intelligence or dishonest human intelligence...

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January 22, 2024, 04:24:21 AM
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I still can't understand the reason for doing this, for someone to claim what is not, when you never win but decided to take it to your fellows that you did just to entice them, this alone is worth enough to remind us not to always believe in everything people are saying, some things might be lies, people can flatter stake and deceives, in gambling, we shouldn't engage it because we wanted to please others of what we are not, we are to focus ourselves on having fun in it and be sincere with every dealings we are making through it, after all, we owe no one accountable on how we gambles.
Some people are just pathological liars that will say and do anything to convince you that what they say is the truth as even they believe their own lies, there are others that lie because it is more convenient, to gain a reputation or to try to earn money from those that may create an account using their referral link, it is because of this that whatever you read on a social media website needs to be taken with a pinch of salt, because a great deal of what you can read there is completely fake.
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I still can't understand the reason for doing this, for someone to claim what is not, when you never win but decided to take it to your fellows that you did just to entice them, this alone is worth enough to remind us not to always believe in everything people are saying, some things might be lies, people can flatter stake and deceives, in gambling, we shouldn't engage it because we wanted to please others of what we are not, we are to focus ourselves on having fun in it and be sincere with every dealings we are making through it, after all, we owe no one accountable on how we gambles.
They do this so that people will think they are professional gamblers who won big and made them famous in their community. It doesn't matter because it will depend on people's trust in those who make the claim. If those who make these claims often lie and cheat, the people around them will not believe their win and will ignore them. We also don't need to believe what they say, especially if we don't know them very well. It is their business if they make such claims, and we also have our own business. So as long as they don't bother us, we'll leave them alone because it will be their business if they lie to the public. The important thing is that we don't disturb the people around us and remain kind to all of them.

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January 23, 2024, 02:52:09 AM
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Some people are just pathological liars that will say and do anything to convince you that what they say is the truth as even they believe their own lies, there are others that lie because it is more convenient, to gain a reputation or to try to earn money from those that may create an account using their referral link, it is because of this that whatever you read on a social media website needs to be taken with a pinch of salt, because a great deal of what you can read there is completely fake.
Hahaha of course and indeed everyone attitude will always be to look for an advantage over other people, the same goes for gamblers where they will outperform other gamblers in any aspect.
That is one of the reasons why I am quite skeptical of other people, especially gamblers, but not all of them because there are several gamblers that I know and they can really provide quite good benefits such as providing advice and suggestions.
Believing what you see just because it is convincing should not be completely trustworthy because there will be many things that we may not know behind the scenes, we will only know about what has been seen, not what has really happened.
Seeing surprising things on social media can influence some people and make mistakes they might never have imagined.
The problem that might occur is usually imitating what has been seen or read and in the end becoming gambler whose ambition is to be able to do or realize the same achievement so that in the end he will lose all the valuable things and worse still he will experience ruin.
I agree that should underestimate what often see or read on social media.

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January 23, 2024, 03:08:19 AM
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I still can't understand the reason for doing this, for someone to claim what is not, when you never win but decided to take it to your fellows that you did just to entice them, this alone is worth enough to remind us not to always believe in everything people are saying, some things might be lies, people can flatter stake and deceives, in gambling, we shouldn't engage it because we wanted to please others of what we are not, we are to focus ourselves on having fun in it and be sincere with every dealings we are making through it, after all, we owe no one accountable on how we gambles.
Yes you are right It is confusing why someone would lie to others especially when they know they won't succeed. We should be careful and not believe everything we hear. People can trick others for their own benefit. When it comes to gambling it's important to be true to ourselves and not do it just to make others happy or pretend to be someone else. The most important thing is to have fun and be honest.

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