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December 20, 2023, 05:11:34 AM
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I trust btc / gold and cash.
It's too bad many of us experinces a lot banking errors like the online banks don't work and cybercrimes in otherwords our money is not in safe and all those online bank wallets not always working good.
Gold offcourse If you can hold it where good place to storage i trust physical locations Smiley for example London and i can get credit on my gold collateral aswell Smiley

I have been using online banking transactions since it was first introduced to the clients, but not even once did I have any troubles using it. I believe you won't be able to encounter any if you know how to the banking app safely. So, your account's safety doesn't only rely on the bank itself, but it is you who will play a huge role in keeping your assets safe. Therefore, I kinda disagree with this one, while agreeing that gold could be a good way of storing your wealth at the same time.

I don't think real estate and property is area of speculation i see real estate as place where to live and good for people to have some place to live as home.
The real estate prices don't make any sense because they are in the DEBT ECONOMY i stay away from debt economy yes you could make good profit but since debt economy bubble can pop it can trigger fast and you might not get out you can lose fast.

I stay away debt and i don't play or speculate things what not backed of any value.
One day all those debt economy gamblers will learn Lesson hard way , yes you can make money like taking the mortgage and then renting out ....but here is the thing it's like a gamble you can win a lot but can lose fast.

I don't understand what you mean by you losing fast when you put your money in real state. Properties don't rot nor stole , the value of it appreciate over time. Sure, business is like gambling, it doesn't always means success, but real state is one of the businesses/investment that bears lesser risks compared to other business models.

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December 20, 2023, 06:13:25 AM
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The assets that I trust most at the moment are more about Real Estate and Property. Although I don't have many yet. But I would like to have more in the future. Because the price growth is clearly visible from time to time. And sooner or later property will always be needed by people. Considering the human population which continues to grow rapidly at this time. Physical gold is my second choice. Because in terms of storing value, gold is number one compared to others. But way I make storing it, which must always be safe, really difficult for me. the third currently is digital assets such as bitcoin. I chose bitcoin based on the development of the digital world and the technological era which continues to develop rapidly. Sooner or later everyone will adopt it. I believe it. So I accumulate it from now on. I only use banks and fiat in daily transactions and they are still useful today. And everything can coexist in the future.
For a long time, real estate has attracted a lot of attention and people are investing heavily in it. I am surprised, but starting a real estate business costs a lot of money, the model is changing every day, and people are adopting the use of smart houses, which makes it expensive to buy and expensive to maintain. After food, the next most important thing in a man's life is shelter, and the issue of housing has been around for a long time, with the only difference now being that it has always been modernized. And one of the issues confronting every nation today is the issue of housing and poverty, with most houses built being unaffordable, exacerbating or exacerbating the housing crisis, which is a global issue.

And all of the assets you chose are quite interesting. Gold is gold because it is an asset that does not require any form of maintenance and when you are ready to sell it is no big deal and does not cost much compared to starting up a real estate business. Bitcoin is also a good choice, but proper research is always a good one before you go into it.

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December 20, 2023, 06:42:36 AM
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That something doesn't work for you doesn't mean it doesn't work at all and you shouldn't  speak bad against it. Real estate is one of the most profitable investments because land is in fixed supply and land investments appreciates very well if  acquired in good and developing site, at my side in Nigeria, my father bought a piece of land in 2007 for two hundred and fifty thousand naira $(230) and he finally sold it off  twelve years later at twenty million naira $(20,000) after the place has experienced significant development and population density increased.

Gold is a valuable investment as well as BTC, real estate is still good and more importantly, a good investor spreads his investment into more  than 1 profitable ventures to minimize his risks. Investing in all of them isn't a bad idea at all cos they all have good potentials and mostly investing seriously in BTC today has the highest potential because of next year's halving. Everything is good, but a good businessman will choose the very promising investment for now which is BTC, after the halving and possible great gains, he can  invest his proceeds on other streams above.

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December 20, 2023, 06:46:03 AM
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     -   I agree with what you said that it is not safe to use online banks; many bank holders who have used them have had their accounts robbed of money. So that means it is not really safe, and your money will be at risk there.

Also, the digital currency in this era, especially in digital payments, makes it easier and faster for the transaction to be completed; in short, it becomes more convenient compared to the physical transaction, which usually becomes a hassle.

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December 20, 2023, 12:49:54 PM
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    -   I agree with what you said that it is not safe to use online banks; many bank holders who have used them have had their accounts robbed of money. So that means it is not really safe, and your money will be at risk there.

Also, the digital currency in this era, especially in digital payments, makes it easier and faster for the transaction to be completed; in short, it becomes more convenient compared to the physical transaction, which usually becomes a hassle.

As we live in digital era, it is very efficient to use digital currency nowadays, like what you've said, most people are currently using digital payments which is more convenient for us but when it comes to a digital currency, we are all aware the risk of it, by being volatile. I agree that sometimes It's not safe and not worth it to save money to banks because of low interest and most cases today are robbed and scammed their banks which shows lack of system privacy, but both bank and crypto has their own risk.



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December 20, 2023, 03:13:47 PM
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If money is not a problem, I will surely invest in precious metals in the form of collectible coins, then real estate and Bitcoin. All of these assets are future proof so it is for me the best choice of investment right now.



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December 22, 2023, 09:27:32 AM
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Nowadays it has become very difficult to trust the banks of our country. Many banks are already on the verge of bankruptcy. So now people want to keep their wealth to themselves. Gold is very trustworthy to people when it comes to investment to manage their own control. However, compared to other investments, the profit margin in gold is very low. Even though the profit share in gold is less, people prefer to store gold for security of their wealth. But now people are thinking of investing in Bitcoin in the desire of high returns from digital thinking. But I think like banks, investing in Bitcoin involves some risk to your capital.

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If money is not a problem, I will surely invest in precious metals in the form of collectible coins, then real estate and Bitcoin. All of these assets are future proof so it is for me the best choice of investment right now.
Money is not a problem, but for some people they just think that money is a barrier for them to start something really good like some of the things you have mentioned (precious metals, real estate and Bitcoin). However, that doesn't mean that this will be a barrier forever for people who still have the desire to make their dreams come true through these three things because remembering that these three are future investment options that are absolutely not wrong to choose.

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If money is not a problem, I will surely invest in precious metals in the form of collectible coins, then real estate and Bitcoin. All of these assets are future proof so it is for me the best choice of investment right now.
Money is not a problem, but for some people they just think that money is a barrier for them to start something really good like some of the things you have mentioned (precious metals, real estate and Bitcoin). However, that doesn't mean that this will be a barrier forever for people who still have the desire to make their dreams come true through these three things because remembering that these three are future investment options that are absolutely not wrong to choose.
Even though it is difficult, not having money is not a reason to start investing for the future, regardless of whatever investment you want to make, but I am sure it can be done as long as you have a strong desire, because all investments can be made on a small scale first.

Personally, at the moment I tend to be more confident in investing because my mind is increasingly open due to the amount of investment knowledge that I know and in my opinion it is better for the assets we have now to turn into something that makes it possible to make a profit rather than remaining motionless even though that will also It's risky, but I think it's worth it.

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December 23, 2023, 06:57:18 AM
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The assets that I trust most at the moment are more about Real Estate and Property. Although I don't have many yet. But I would like to have more in the future. Because the price growth is clearly visible from time to time. And sooner or later property will always be needed by people. Considering the human population which continues to grow rapidly at this time. Physical gold is my second choice. Because in terms of storing value, gold is number one compared to others. But way I make storing it, which must always be safe, really difficult for me. the third currently is digital assets such as bitcoin. I chose bitcoin based on the development of the digital world and the technological era which continues to develop rapidly. Sooner or later everyone will adopt it. I believe it. So I accumulate it from now on. I only use banks and fiat in daily transactions and they are still useful today. And everything can coexist in the future.
For a long time, real estate has attracted a lot of attention and people are investing heavily in it. I am surprised, but starting a real estate business costs a lot of money, the model is changing every day, and people are adopting the use of smart houses, which makes it expensive to buy and expensive to maintain. After food, the next most important thing in a man's life is shelter, and the issue of housing has been around for a long time, with the only difference now being that it has always been modernized. And one of the issues confronting every nation today is the issue of housing and poverty, with most houses built being unaffordable, exacerbating or exacerbating the housing crisis, which is a global issue.

And all of the assets you chose are quite interesting. Gold is gold because it is an asset that does not require any form of maintenance and when you are ready to sell it is no big deal and does not cost much compared to starting up a real estate business. Bitcoin is also a good choice, but proper research is always a good one before you go into it.
Even today the cost of building a house has increased almost twofold. So it is not surprising that in the end house prices become quite high from year to year. Because the price of land and the cost of building it have also increased. And that is why currently many people have difficulty owning a house. So we meet many young couples who prefer to rent a house instead of buying. Because rental costs are sometimes cheaper than paying for a house in installments. But from a business and investment perspective, real estate remains profitable and has potential. Building property and creating elite housing, for example, can also make us have much bigger profits.

But the problem is capital. Although many have the courage to get capital from loans. But to get a large loan you also need large collateral. So for those who don't have a lot of real estate to begin with, it's impossible to enter that field.

Gold and Bitcoin are two things that are more accessible to all groups. Both people with small capital and those with large capital. So it is not surprising that investment growth in these two things has increased rapidly. I also have investments in this field. But later, when I have enough money, my goal will still be Real Estate.

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The reality of Bitcoin can only be sensed if we hold it for long terms. The sweet fruit doesn't grow overnight, you need to ripe it first. I do not want to go in complexion of comparing whose great and not because over the time you get good returns on worst asset too. For example, Bitcoin or Real estate or Gold, all of them will hrow to new ATH with the time. If one is scarce in supply then other is becoming scarce due to external or internal factors that increases its value enormously. If we buy land and bitcoin today of equal value then imagine in next 20 years that land will be affected due to its surrounding demand. Maybe there is big township developing, or population is growing faster which eventually will add the value to it. Apart from it, in case of Bitcoin its supply will be limited and limited with higher network difficulty thus making it more demanding for possession. I think thats how we will see rise in all of the assets we hold. Its just matter of time.
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If money is not a problem, I will surely invest in precious metals in the form of collectible coins, then real estate and Bitcoin. All of these assets are future proof so it is for me the best choice of investment right now.
For me, money is not a treasure to be kept in a bank, money is a means of payment, a medium of exchange, that is written on every piece of banknote, understand the meaning.

So it's better for us to be smart in using money for saving and investing. If you want to save, it's safe, the value doesn't go down, and liquid (easy to disburse) is gold. But if you want to invest (make a profit/increase in value) there are many choices, such as real estate, or the more modern bitcoin investment. Of course these three assets will strengthen our finances in the future.
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Now Im wondering what they will do with all that bonds wich will have maturity on 2026

Im not economic expert i just think people have lost their guard too confident to trust something what does not have solid security.

All of the major companies rely on bonds to finance their operations. For the last 15 years the companies got used to cheap money, paying only 1-3% interest on most of their debt. Without the debt market there would be a huge issue for the companies to create new projects and invest in the future. The problem companies will face now is to roll all their existing debt into much higher interest debt for the next 3-10 years. This is going to put a lot of pressure on the financing department and will likely lead to some bankruptcy. Which is why the Fed already stopped raising rates and will likely lower rates again. If the whole economy is suffering the politicians will demand lower rates again, even if this means rising inflation again. The alternatives for us are bitcoins and gold, but gold is already at the ATH, I am not sure how much upside potential is left.
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If money is not a problem, I will surely invest in precious metals in the form of collectible coins, then real estate and Bitcoin. All of these assets are future proof so it is for me the best choice of investment right now.
For me, money is not a treasure to be kept in a bank, money is a means of payment, a medium of exchange, that is written on every piece of banknote, understand the meaning.

So it's better for us to be smart in using money for saving and investing. If you want to save, it's safe, the value doesn't go down, and liquid (easy to disburse) is gold. But if you want to invest (make a profit/increase in value) there are many choices, such as real estate, or the more modern bitcoin investment. Of course these three assets will strengthen our finances in the future.

I agree with you, money is a means of payment or exchange that exists in everyone's life, but in my opinion everyone needs money, money is an important thing in everyday life because to meet basic needs of course there must be money first. . Some say money is everything, but not everything can be paid for with money, I agree with this, but to be precise, money has an important role in life, everything we do is sometimes related to finances.

In my opinion, saving and investing are also related to money. To save itself, of course it must be money and the amount. Meanwhile, investment may be in the form of goods or whatever, but mainly money still has a high role, for investing in Bitcoin I also think that need money to get started.

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If money is not a problem, I will surely invest in precious metals in the form of collectible coins, then real estate and Bitcoin. All of these assets are future proof so it is for me the best choice of investment right now.

Investment is a good option for multiplication of your cost as if you invest early you will be more profitable and among precious metals I will prefer gold because in my opinion gold is a better investment and if it comes to digital asset then bitcoin is the primary source which should be selected first.

Real estate can give you profit therefore if you are economically stable then invest little by little in each and every type of investment about which you think that it will be suitable option and you have no doubt about its future but if little doubt exists in your heart then don't choose that type of investment because as doubtful you are then you will have reduce interest about it.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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December 24, 2023, 12:24:05 PM
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For me, money is not a treasure to be kept in a bank, money is a means of payment, a medium of exchange, that is written on every piece of banknote, understand the meaning.

So it's better for us to be smart in using money for saving and investing. If you want to save, it's safe, the value doesn't go down, and liquid (easy to disburse) is gold. But if you want to invest (make a profit/increase in value) there are many choices, such as real estate, or the more modern bitcoin investment. Of course these three assets will strengthen our finances in the future.
You're right, but strangely, a lot of people worldwide measure someone's wealth based on the money they have, and that's become the standard. Hoarding wealth in the form of fiat is not a great idea, given the looming threat of inflation. The best option nowadays is to store money in the form of assets. It's projected for future needs, as the growth of money is better when invested rather than just stored or saved.

If you're not too confident about the amount of money you have, Bitcoin offers privacy, allowing anyone to invest with just a few dollars or even without a minimum limit. Quite flexible, isn't it?
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For me, money is not a treasure to be kept in a bank, money is a means of payment, a medium of exchange, that is written on every piece of banknote, understand the meaning.

So it's better for us to be smart in using money for saving and investing. If you want to save, it's safe, the value doesn't go down, and liquid (easy to disburse) is gold. But if you want to invest (make a profit/increase in value) there are many choices, such as real estate, or the more modern bitcoin investment. Of course these three assets will strengthen our finances in the future.
You're right, but strangely, a lot of people worldwide measure someone's wealth based on the money they have, and that's become the standard. Hoarding wealth in the form of fiat is not a great idea, given the looming threat of inflation. The best option nowadays is to store money in the form of assets. It's projected for future needs, as the growth of money is better when invested rather than just stored or saved.

If you're not too confident about the amount of money you have, Bitcoin offers privacy, allowing anyone to invest with just a few dollars or even without a minimum limit. Quite flexible, isn't it?
Isn't one of the criterias for one to be called a man or given the respect of a man these days not tied to how much is in the wallet or bank account?
Let's not pretend like this isn't a default character of almost every living being who lives in civilization and seeks a better life for themselves and family.

Assets investment always pay better than saving up cash in the bank for no good cause, because it would not add up in value unless it is invested with an expected return. To buy gold, intellectual property, investment in real estate, trading BTC pertime or DCAing till a duration and then one withdraws the capital and continue to DCA or diversify within the crypto currency market to gain useful information and best investment practice, is one way to build wealth and guarantee wealth for the future rather than saving up with no intention of ever investing it.

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For me, money is not a treasure to be kept in a bank, money is a means of payment, a medium of exchange, that is written on every piece of banknote, understand the meaning.

So it's better for us to be smart in using money for saving and investing. If you want to save, it's safe, the value doesn't go down, and liquid (easy to disburse) is gold. But if you want to invest (make a profit/increase in value) there are many choices, such as real estate, or the more modern bitcoin investment. Of course these three assets will strengthen our finances in the future.
You're right, but strangely, a lot of people worldwide measure someone's wealth based on the money they have, and that's become the standard. Hoarding wealth in the form of fiat is not a great idea, given the looming threat of inflation. The best option nowadays is to store money in the form of assets. It's projected for future needs, as the growth of money is better when invested rather than just stored or saved.

If you're not too confident about the amount of money you have, Bitcoin offers privacy, allowing anyone to invest with just a few dollars or even without a minimum limit. Quite flexible, isn't it?
It is true that most people nowadays measure each person's wealth based on the money they have and also people who have a lot of wealth will be more easily accepted in any environment because they will be able to ask for help from those who already have a lot of wealth, if we choose to collect the wealth we have. Having it in the form of money is not a good choice because if inflation occurs the value of the money we save will certainly decrease. It would be better if we saved the wealth we have in the form of real assets because this will be an investment for our future.
You are right, we can invest using Bitcoin whatever we can afford and we will also be able to make a profit if we do it consistently.

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I also believe in gold and BTC as assets.  But it must be within your own means. You should invest as much as you can afford, it is not right to borrow BTC or gold and invest in anything.  The future of BTC and gold is bright.  If you invest in them, there will be less chance of loss. But I will say that if someone buys the land, the money will be safe.  I have seen the price of land is increasing day by day.  But it is a fixed asset.  It cannot be used as needed but is safe.  It is best to invest in BTC. We know that bull run is coming and people investing in BTC are going to get expected results.  Also, the price of gold is increasing day by day and there is no chance to reduce it, so I hope it will be very profitable to invest in gold.

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- banks and online banking are the worst. Sometimes when we want to withdraw a large amount of money we have to wait a few days when it is not available right away. Online banking also has several very difficult obstacles. Sometimes errors and break-ins occur.

- Apart from gold and Bitcoin, I even recommend turning property with OP, the value of property such as land and houses has a projected price increase every year and this is worth considering as a wealth asset or investment that is clean from the debt method.

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