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December 25, 2023, 06:55:28 AM
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I don't think real estate and property is area of speculation i see real estate as place where to live and good for people to have some place to live as home.

that is why i think real estate is a good investment you can live in it and pass it down to your children and if they want, they can sell it at some point

land is a fixed supply which is why real estate is considered to be a safe investment you just have to pick out a good location

Real estate is a life investment everyone want to invest his or her money so that they will have so much income to earn in the future, and it will also help you to live to achieve a lot of income and when you pass out from this world, your children will continue to maintain the investment in a way it will continue generating income to the family.  If you have the money to invest in this two investment, land and Real Estate, I will advice you to make Real estate your investment because it will serve you for a long period of time and it will reduce house rent money from you when you change your mind to live in the estate. Land is another good investment, you can invest your money and wait for a long period of time for the environment to develop before you can get a good Customer that will price the land the way you want to sell it to make double income.

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December 25, 2023, 09:07:24 AM
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It's too bad many of us experinces a lot banking errors like the online banks don't work and cybercrimes in otherwords our money is not in safe and all those online bank wallets not always working good.


Digital payment methods are convenient because you don't have to count the change, don't risk getting fake notes, all the money that you need are on one plastic card and if you lose it, you can block it and issue a new card, while losing a wallet full of cash has near zero chances of seeing it again.


I don't think real estate and property is area of speculation i see real estate as place where to live and good for people to have some place to live as home.
The real estate prices don't make any sense because they are in the DEBT ECONOMY i stay away from debt economy yes you could make good profit but since debt economy bubble can pop it can trigger fast and you might not get out you can lose fast.


Real estate generates income. Even if the prices will crash, people will still rent it and the prices will go up again after some years. It's not a purely speculative investment like Bitcoin where you only care about the price.
Currently we have to have a long-term target so that there is savings for old age and family, we have to build digital assets, be it a blog platform that has been monetized or alcoin assets, every day developments require working in the digital world, so like it or not, those who master digital will it is certain that he will get big profits from all of that, alcoin, bitcoin is the solution for storing our wealth assets

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December 26, 2023, 04:59:54 AM
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Real estate is a life investment everyone want to invest his or her money so that they will have so much income to earn in the future, and it will also help you to live to achieve a lot of income and when you pass out from this world, your children will continue to maintain the investment in a way it will continue generating income to the family.  If you have the money to invest in this two investment, land and Real Estate, I will advice you to make Real estate your investment because it will serve you for a long period of time and it will reduce house rent money from you when you change your mind to live in the estate. Land is another good investment, you can invest your money and wait for a long period of time for the environment to develop before you can get a good Customer that will price the land the way you want to sell it to make double income.

That's true because real estate is also a part of a promising investment in the long run because the value of the asset can increase over time.
But the problem is when someone wants to invest in this sector it requires a large capital because real estate cannot be run with limited capital.
There are several investment models that have value and maybe from which angle we start with the availability of capital.
Gold and land for example these two investments are also quite good when someone can maximize and opportunities will exist when we have a budget source as a support.

I have seen how the real estate business, land and gold are protected and people before we may have carried out investments in several sectors and until now it has been inherited to their children.

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December 26, 2023, 06:03:23 AM
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Real estate wouldn't be a debt economy for you if you were buying properties in full without having debts or a mortgage to pay, the problem you are trying to convey about real estate is only for those who can't afford to buy a property of their own because they don't have enough resources for that. In reality, real estate is one of the best and safest investment methods but it's only for those who can afford it because you can't invest in real estate if you have a limited capital.

Gold and Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies are good for those who can't afford to invest in other things such as real estate because you don't need a fortune to buy some gold or have some Bitcoin since you can start with as low as $10 for Bitcoin and maybe $50 for gold or just $100. However, your profit will depend on the amount you are investing.

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December 26, 2023, 06:16:56 AM
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You don't just have a personal dislike for the standard banking system and the so-called "debt economy." It's a sign of a larger disappointment. Cybercrimes and online banking failures aren't just faults; they're systemic problems. Gold, on the other hand, is still the safest place to be in times of chaos. Let's not forget Bitcoin. It's a monetary revolution, not just an asset. It offers hope in finance because to its decentralisation, limited supply, and inflation resistance

You're right regarding real estate worries. It's overrated in debt-driven circus. Debt-laden real estate is a time bomb. Property is about shelter, not investment, as many people forget. Bitcoin shines again. Its ETF assimilation into mainstream finance will change everything. Nations are accumulating BTC and gold because debt economies will fail. BTC-backed economies are imminent. Bond maturity deadlines in 2026? They may be a wakeup call that 'funny money' is over. In the future, assets will matter, not digital promissory notes

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December 26, 2023, 10:17:24 AM
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I think a lot of people have lost faith in their governments and they do not trust them anymore. They also do not trust Banks anymore... seeing that the Banking crisis exposed the greediness behind those corporate entities.

People will rather invest into something, where they have the control. You go out and buy physical Gold or Silver or you buy bitcoins, because you know it is not manipulated by a central government or central authority. (accept for the Gold syndicates or cartels)

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December 26, 2023, 11:47:00 AM
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Nowadays it has become very difficult to trust the banks of our country. Many banks are already on the verge of bankruptcy. So now people want to keep their wealth to themselves. Gold is very trustworthy to people when it comes to investment to manage their own control. However, compared to other investments, the profit margin in gold is very low. Even though the profit share in gold is less, people prefer to store gold for security of their wealth. But now people are thinking of investing in Bitcoin in the desire of high returns from digital thinking. But I think like banks, investing in Bitcoin involves some risk to your capital.
It is assumed that a major global economic recession is imminent and whenever a global economic recession occurs there are many banks that will officially declare themselves insolvent. In every country you will find many big banks in which people have a lot of trust but when they are caught they are insolvent and all they have to do is declare them. But it is a matter of concern what the situation of the country may be when some important banks declare bankruptcy. Most of the people like to keep money in bank because they think keeping money in bank is safe but by keeping money in bank if bank goes bankrupt they will be more in debt instead of withdrawing money from bank. We are getting to know about this in advance so we should be alert about this in advance.

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December 26, 2023, 02:28:18 PM
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I trust btc / gold and cash.
It's too bad many of us experinces a lot banking errors like the online banks don't work and cybercrimes in otherwords our money is not in safe and all those online bank wallets not always working good.


This is normal there's no perfect system but again better to make sure that you choose a higher credibility to make sure they are responsible with the case if they meet this kind of issue. It's hit differently if they care about their users.


I stay away debt and i don't play or speculate things what not backed of any value.
One day all those debt economy gamblers will learn Lesson hard way , yes you can make money like taking the mortgage and then renting out ....but here is the thing it's like a gamble you can win a lot but can lose fast.

Its nothing wrong with having debts its depends on the people and how they manage this because if you can see rich people using their debts to create more assets and let those asset makes an earning and pay the debts few years or months they are now successfully paid the debts and having a good amount of money continuously. Instead seeking for debt and just use for luxuries things that's the time surely you will suffer then.

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December 26, 2023, 02:51:11 PM
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I don't think real estate and property is area of speculation i see real estate as place where to live and good for people to have some place to live as home.
Real estate can also be used as a long-term investment without risk, you can earn income every year from renting a house to other people and the selling value will also increase in the future. Real estate is still an investment choice for all groups, imagine if you had a rental property, you could get regular income every month without having to work.

The house you live in now can also be an investment for your children in the future, now they can enjoy the facilities as a comfortable place to rest without having to pay rent. Even though Bitcoin, gold and other valuables are being sought after by today's investors, real estate remains a safe investment because the risk level is very small.

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I stay away debt and i don't play or speculate things what not backed of any value.
One day all those debt economy gamblers will learn Lesson hard way , yes you can make money like taking the mortgage and then renting out ....but here is the thing it's like a gamble you can win a lot but can lose fast.

Its nothing wrong with having debts its depends on the people and how they manage this because if you can see rich people using their debts to create more assets and let those asset makes an earning and pay the debts few years or months they are now successfully paid the debts and having a good amount of money continuously. Instead seeking for debt and just use for luxuries things that's the time surely you will suffer then.

I agree with you, and in my opinion there are two points of view when it comes to debt. where there are those who think it is bad and there are those who respond well, but as you said, it all depends on the person, if they have a good mindset, I think they are in debt for their own sake and it will produce profits later as you explained, and this is not a problem if they take out loans for good things, because just like someone who wants to start a business and is sure that it will grow and make a profit later but he doesn't have enough capital or money to start the business, then in my opinion he There is no harm in taking out a loan because the loan will be used for something positive and good for the future.

different from people who think that the act of taking a loan is bad, it is likely that they will think that someone who takes out a loan is someone who has bad thoughts, even though people are not always like that, because in my opinion someone who has a good mindset of course wants positive change. , therefore he took out a loan to start a business or something else. Regarding debt, in my opinion, this is just a different perspective for each person. and my advice is don't listen to other people who want to bring us down, if we do positive things for the future it won't be a problem.

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December 26, 2023, 04:19:55 PM
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Well, real estate is a good investment for me if you are capable of buying any of the lots available. Although it is not cheap because we are talking about land, It may not be a good investment for others, but most still believe that it is still a good investment because, as time goes on, the value increases.

So I don't see any loss in real estate investment, to be honest, because it decreases in value with each passing year. Unlike cryptocurrency, bitcoin is very volatile, which will increase and decrease the price value in the market. Although it is possible to earn here in crypto every day, and that depends on the idea or knowledge you have here, if your knowledge is only superficial, you will not achieve the profit you want to get.

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Real estate wouldn't be a debt economy for you if you were buying properties in full without having debts or a mortgage to pay, the problem you are trying to convey about real estate is only for those who can't afford to buy a property of their own because they don't have enough resources for that. In reality, real estate is one of the best and safest investment methods but it's only for those who can afford it because you can't invest in real estate if you have a limited capital.

Gold and Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies are good for those who can't afford to invest in other things such as real estate because you don't need a fortune to buy some gold or have some Bitcoin since you can start with as low as $10 for Bitcoin and maybe $50 for gold or just $100. However, your profit will depend on the amount you are investing.
In other words investing in Real Estate is not for everyone, only for those who have a lot of money. It must be admitted that real estate investment does have good prospects for our finances in the future, but the problem is that not everyone can do it, because not everyone has a lot of money.

In stark contrast to Bitcoin, gold can still be reached by all groups by investing using the DCA strategy, we can use as much money as we can afford and the profits we get in the future are higher than real estate. It is true, Bitcoin has very high risks, but this can be minimized by seeking more knowledge about Bitcoin.

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If we store wealth in the form of paper money, then every year we will lose money. because paper money always experiences changes in exchange rates. And if we just want to maintain your wealth, then save your wealth in the form of gold, or in the form of currency, which is really stable. However, if you want to increase the wealth we have, then investing is the solution. And it is true that when we want to invest in other things such as real estate, we will be required to have quite a large amount of capital, and sometimes this is what makes some people confused when they want to start investing, they want to start but don't have enough capital. And with the presence of crypto and bitcoin, this should be a solution for those who want to start investing with minimal capital. but due to a lack of literacy and information, it turns out that there are still many people who don't know and understand what crypto is, what bitcoin is and what trading is.

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December 26, 2023, 11:09:20 PM
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that is why i think real estate is a good investment you can live in it and pass it down to your children and if they want, they can sell it at some point

land is a fixed supply which is why real estate is considered to be a safe investment you just have to pick out a good location

Although real estate investment has the advantages you mentioned, it has the disadvantage of not providing as much profit as other options especially in the long term. Of course, it is possible to obtain high returns by investing in real estate at a bargain price or in an area that hasn't yet been valued but this isn't always an opportunity and in some cases it can give good results as a long-term investment. Of course, the advantages of investing in real estate such as renting or living in a house or land make this option attractive but I don't think it is a logical option to constantly grow the existing savings. Being able to pass on these investments to our future generations as an inheritance is certainly an important advantage but we can also pass on options such as crypto or commodity investment to future generations.

The reasons why I don't prefer real estate investment especially in the long term, are that it requires high capital and if the rental option is used the rental income amortizes the investment in a very long time.
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that is why i think real estate is a good investment you can live in it and pass it down to your children and if they want, they can sell it at some point

land is a fixed supply which is why real estate is considered to be a safe investment you just have to pick out a good location

Although real estate investment has the advantages you mentioned, it has the disadvantage of not providing as much profit as other options especially in the long term. Of course, it is possible to obtain high returns by investing in real estate at a bargain price or in an area that hasn't yet been valued but this isn't always an opportunity and in some cases it can give good results as a long-term investment. Of course, the advantages of investing in real estate such as renting or living in a house or land make this option attractive but I don't think it is a logical option to constantly grow the existing savings. Being able to pass on these investments to our future generations as an inheritance is certainly an important advantage but we can also pass on options such as crypto or commodity investment to future generations.

The reasons why I don't prefer real estate investment especially in the long term, are that it requires high capital and if the rental option is used the rental income amortizes the investment in a very long time.

I can understand if a lot of people will choose to have real-estate in their assets because that's a tangible asset that has benefits for the entire family.
Crypto and other volatile assets are great to possess, but not all people are equip to handle this market.
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December 27, 2023, 09:41:17 AM
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OP, you are missing facts, or you are less informed about facts, or perhaps you don't know much about investments. Fine, you might want easy money, and such that you can be controlled electronically, but that doesn't mean you should undermine the importance of real estate and physical properties and investments. Bitcoin and Gold are good, but that is if you are smart with them because as they can earn more for you, they can make you lose too. Also, I want you to know that these assets have their on and off seasons, so it is not all the time you will be gaining from them unless you are a trader who can be earning from them in every one of the seasons. Imagine waiting for about 3 years before you can earn again from Bitcoin. This means you are wasting a lot of time.

In light of this, I believe that you can still be smart to invest in real estate or/and other physical investments during the off-season of these assets. This will amount to making more money for you instead of either leaving the money in them (the assets) and letting them continue to depreciate during the off-season, or moving the money to a fixed USD or USD-related stablecoins that will earn you nothing. Aside from that, it is good to diversify your portfolio, everything can't be wisely done only online, which is too risky. What if anything unplanned happens? Even this online business does not work for everyone, and you should not let the joy of the moment (if you are making money from it now) cloud your entire investment's judgment and plans because what happens now might not happen in the near future. But good plans and diversification might be the answer to cover up for you during the unforeseeable times of uncertainty.

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December 27, 2023, 12:09:24 PM
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I don't think real estate and property is area of speculation i see real estate as place where to live and good for people to have some place to live as home.

that is why i think real estate is a good investment you can live in it and pass it down to your children and if they want, they can sell it at some point

land is a fixed supply which is why real estate is considered to be a safe investment you just have to pick out a good location

If the reason for you to think that real estate is a good investment is because you can pass it to your children as inheritance, then I want you to also know that bitcoin investment can be pass to your children too, if you teach them bitcoin and make them to know you holding pass phrase or seed phrase they can still sell it anytime they deem it necessary, I want you to also understand that both bitcoin and real estate has their own importance, from time to time you have to do renovation in your house to meetup with the present standard that will attract individuals but in bitcoin what you need is to use a good wallet to safeguard your investment, am not saying that real estate is not a good investment, am just saying that bitcoin and real estate be it housing or land are excellent type of investment.

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December 27, 2023, 01:38:24 PM
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You don't just have a personal dislike for the standard banking system and the so-called "debt economy." It's a sign of a larger disappointment. Cybercrimes and online banking failures aren't just faults; they're systemic problems. Gold, on the other hand, is still the safest place to be in times of chaos. Let's not forget Bitcoin. It's a monetary revolution, not just an asset. It offers hope in finance because to its decentralisation, limited supply, and inflation resistance

You're right regarding real estate worries. It's overrated in debt-driven circus. Debt-laden real estate is a time bomb. Property is about shelter, not investment, as many people forget. Bitcoin shines again. Its ETF assimilation into mainstream finance will change everything. Nations are accumulating BTC and gold because debt economies will fail. BTC-backed economies are imminent. Bond maturity deadlines in 2026? They may be a wakeup call that 'funny money' is over. In the future, assets will matter, not digital promissory notes
I agree that gold is a lot better and I think that bitcoin is much better than anything we have seen, much better than fiat obviously and the banking system there is not even a slight doubt about that, but I think it is better than gold as well, it's much better option. I believe that the best thing to invest , the best asset in the world, is bitcoin and we should keep investing into that.

I agree that it is not going to be all that easy to handle it any way possible, because bitcoin is a volatile currency as well so we need to realize that we may have to hold it during bad times and psychologically that's a very troubled thing, it is not easy at all. However, if we can endure those periods then I am sure that everyone would agree that it's the best thing to invest into without a doubt.

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December 27, 2023, 01:58:23 PM
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Well, real estate is a good investment for me if you are capable of buying any of the lots available. Although it is not cheap because we are talking about land, It may not be a good investment for others, but most still believe that it is still a good investment because, as time goes on, the value increases.

So I don't see any loss in real estate investment, to be honest, because it decreases in value with each passing year. Unlike cryptocurrency, bitcoin is very volatile, which will increase and decrease the price value in the market. Although it is possible to earn here in crypto every day, and that depends on the idea or knowledge you have here, if your knowledge is only superficial, you will not achieve the profit you want to get.
Real Estate can also be used for businesses that can provide passive income for us in the future. Which will enable us to achieve financial stability or even financial freedom. It depends on the idea and how we make good use of it. But what is certain is that real estate apart from the price continues to increase from time to time. And also Real Estate can be a source of passive income for us.

But the problem is that real estate is currently expensive. A large amount of money is needed in this case. But we should not force ourselves to enter a field that we are not yet capable of entering. But if you are patient and collect a lot of money. So one day we will definitely be successful in buying Real Estate if we continue to consistently collect money and make money for it.

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December 27, 2023, 10:17:38 PM
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If we store wealth in the form of paper money, then every year we will lose money. because paper money always experiences changes in exchange rates. And if we just want to maintain your wealth, then save your wealth in the form of gold, or in the form of currency, which is really stable. However, if you want to increase the wealth we have, then investing is the solution. And it is true that when we want to invest in other things such as real estate, we will be required to have quite a large amount of capital, and sometimes this is what makes some people confused when they want to start investing, they want to start but don't have enough capital. And with the presence of crypto and bitcoin, this should be a solution for those who want to start investing with minimal capital. but due to a lack of literacy and information, it turns out that there are still many people who don't know and understand what crypto is, what bitcoin is and what trading is.
Before investing in Bitcoin, certain things need to be understood at what purpose of wanting to buy Bitcoin. Buying Bitcoin as a store of value, one should note he may not get Bitcoin at the same price he invested, it is either low or higher. If it is lower then he needs it at that moment he has no option either to wait till the price appreciates or sell, selling at that point is taking a loss.
I suggest that instead of using Bitcoin mainly as a store of value it will not be proficient as using Gold. Bitcoin should be most likely used for investment and payment for services.

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