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December 16, 2023, 07:13:15 PM
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Here we can see the double standards of Twitch's developers. Gambling was condemned as something outrageous, but nudity is fine as family friendly content...
Gambling was not condemned as outrageous. As i vaguely remember the story, it was banned for something that had to do with big influencers and their attitude towards the platform, or something related to that. This was not a moral stand at any point.

If they choose to allow any form of nudity, then it is up the company to decide, does not make it double standards.

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December 16, 2023, 08:52:18 PM
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Here we can see the double standards of Twitch's developers. Gambling was condemned as something outrageous, but nudity is fine as family friendly content...
Gambling was not condemned as outrageous. As i vaguely remember the story, it was banned for something that had to do with big influencers and their attitude towards the platform, or something related to that. This was not a moral stand at any point.

If they choose to allow any form of nudity, then it is up the company to decide, does not make it double standards.

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Yes, their business then its their rules on which it would be applied.It is really just that we cant really be able to avoid on not to say something basing up with those decisions or things that they've been doing specially into those people who had been using Twitch before specially on gambling streams and other correlated things on which they've decided to ban it out due to some issues or whatever reasoning it would be and now that they are allowing out that kind of nudity then it cant really be avoided that it would be raising up some eyebrows basing up into the decision that they had made.
If we arent really that liking on what Twitch is doing now, well we do have some options on making use of other platforms as well. It would really be that always falls down into someones preference
i should say.

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December 16, 2023, 09:02:32 PM
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So they explore other routes. It wouldn't surprise me if they decided to go full onlyfans next to make their shareholders more profit.

when money is what motivates them, that could be a plan in motion. what doesn't make sense is that the casino streamers were sacked, they didn't make money from those gambling streamers?

nude art or not, i don't think it will still be a family-oriented photo. anyone looking at a picture even the nude art on deviantart.com can give you a boner. so it doesn't matter how they distinguish art and porno. twitch is not even a site for art but whatever they say.

i don't think this site will be a family-oriented site anymore as based from the OP's link, in one of the statements -

"Creators can now also stream video highlighting their "breasts, buttocks or pelvic region" the Amazon-owned site has announced."

now, do you really think that is a family-oriented one? but they will say it is just artistic approach on things. people are really losing their minds.  Roll Eyes for sure they will rack good money from this move, as people who are into this thing have now a very good reason as they can easily say, they are just doing this for art sake or they can claim it as their artistic way of things. such a very subjective approach.

next time, people are going to this streaming platform not because of some game or sports, but because of this "artistic" side of the users.

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December 16, 2023, 09:04:36 PM
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Yes, I recall when Twitch banned gambling from the platform and I was aware of the new Terms of the platform about nudity. Honestly, it has become a very strange and ironic situation, because people were not able to gamble on there but now some days ago I started to watch people reacting to the new content which is allowed in Twitch and it has turned into a literal soft core pornography webside.
I saw an artist streamer drawing on line furry pornography art I also saw another female Vtuber displaying explicit drawings of her avatar to her subscribers and every time she received a donation started to jiggle the boobs of her avatar to the camera.

It is simply surreal. I do not even know what Amazon/Twitch is expecting to ge money off this and at the same time continue to hold their alleged values of a platform which is supposed to be family friendly. Yesterday I read rumors they have already backpedaled and have reversed the decision on allowing pornography on Twitch. The lesson we can get from all this mess: a slot machine is apparently more dangerous to teen than copious amounts of pornography is. Messy.

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December 16, 2023, 09:19:27 PM
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Both nudity and gambling are harmful in their own ways, especially when the content viewer is not of age and can't take some decisions for themselves, as it might mislead them in negative ways.
 
When it comes to nudity, we might see it as something that might be kept off the internet or made public based on our personal views and interests, but then again, whether we like it or not, these things really need to be made public, up to some extent. To some point, they are education, depending on how the person who has access to the information wants to treat it.
 
In the aspect of gambling, they are also good and bad, and I don't judge anyone who wants to limit it from their publications; it's their world; they can decide what they consider healthy and what they shouldn't.

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December 16, 2023, 09:25:16 PM
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Ironically, now artistic nudity is allowed (And who is going to define the limit between what is artistic and what is pornography?)!

Here we can see the double standards of Twitch's developers. Gambling was condemned as something outrageous, but nudity is fine as family friendly content...

Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?
Let me say that Twitch has the right to do whatever it wants to do and also interpret views as it wants to act accordingly. But they certainly cannot tell me that they have the perfect justification for banning gambling and allowing nudity. Is it for addictions? People can be addicted to both, and to be more elaborate, nudity attracts more people to addiction than gambling, and the same goes for the sales of the company. Maybe that is why they opted for it as they still have nothing to lose in this package.

Nudity, especially for the young generation is so addictive, that's what they love most, and only for it, they might be the core fans of Twitch. However, the only argument Twitch can claim against gambling is that, in addition to its addictive capability, people may still waste money engaging in it, and this could cause a whole lot of psychological issues. But for the nudity, people might be tempted to come often but will have nothing huge to waste like money or have some kind of depression that gambling addiction could cause. Above all, the two could have been allowed since they are both allowed legally, only that they should issue a disclaimer in line with that of gambling so that people know the risk involved, not entirely banning it.

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December 17, 2023, 12:07:07 AM
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Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?
Seems like they just were playing at the market. As we know nudity is more dangerous than gambling. it actually damages the mentality of young people rather than playing gambling which is similar to games. We don't know how much money Twitch gets from the nudity company. That is possible a lot because that industry always grows up the same as gambling itself. Now, from here we can actually see that Twitch is just a company that is only money-oriented, Maybe gambling does not give them too much money then show up the naked girl on video.

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December 17, 2023, 02:38:24 AM
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Seems like they just were playing at the market. As we know nudity is more dangerous than gambling. it actually damages the mentality of young people rather than playing gambling which is similar to games. We don't know how much money Twitch gets from the nudity company. That is possible a lot because that industry always grows up the same as gambling itself. Now, from here we can actually see that Twitch is just a company that is only money-oriented, Maybe gambling does not give them too much money then show up the naked girl on video.


Everyone have a plan and budgets to executes every season, there's no resting until one succeeds in ensuring he makes good amounts daily, weekly, monthly and yearly from the lay down investment. There are times we give up but do bounce back because we just gave to keep pushing for excellent results. Twitch can be generating 10x of what gambling gives them because nudity spreads so fast before anyone could notice. They know the exact amounts they produce daily, If they didn't produce good results, then I think they won't bother to abandon gambling fro nudity.

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December 17, 2023, 02:51:12 AM
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If they choose to allow any form of nudity, then it is up the company to decide, does not make it double standards.
Yes, just like a father who has two sons with one year difference between them, but since an early age, only one is allowed to go to birthday's parties, choose what to eat on breakfast, play videogames as long as he want during the day, while the other has to strictly follow a routine of studies, eating and discipline.

The father doesn't have double standards towards the education of his children. It's just that he is in the charge of the situation, so he can do as he wish. Tongue

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December 17, 2023, 01:23:03 PM
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This is surely a double standard by twitch. If they have decided to allow artistic nudity is same as pornography because those are going to be explicit pictures running in the mind of people including children. Nudity and gambling are suppose to be to the exclusive reserve of adults but with such nudity, children are going to be at risk.

To stream art works with naked bodies is only going to corrupt children more and the reason for banning gambling on their platform is more or less defeated.
Last time, I heard/saw someone which states that nudity is a kind of art. While this is my first time hearing the term "artistic nudity" here. I think this is where the nude models are being painted, or their body are being inked. Maybe this is the ones who were allowed, because the audience can't still see the full naked body of the models.

However, in the eyes of others, especially to the gamblers and gambling streamers, who are once removed, and affected in the decision made by Twitch last time to gambling, they aren't happy with it. Twitch only gave them another weapon to attack them more. But as usual, Twitch can only ignore them.

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December 17, 2023, 10:33:02 PM
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This is surely a double standard by twitch. If they have decided to allow artistic nudity is same as pornography because those are going to be explicit pictures running in the mind of people including children. Nudity and gambling are suppose to be to the exclusive reserve of adults but with such nudity, children are going to be at risk.

To stream art works with naked bodies is only going to corrupt children more and the reason for banning gambling on their platform is more or less defeated.
Last time, I heard/saw someone which states that nudity is a kind of art. While this is my first time hearing the term "artistic nudity" here. I think this is where the nude models are being painted, or their body are being inked. Maybe this is the ones who were allowed, because the audience can't still see the full naked body of the models.

However, in the eyes of others, especially to the gamblers and gambling streamers, who are once removed, and affected in the decision made by Twitch last time to gambling, they aren't happy with it. Twitch only gave them another weapon to attack them more. But as usual, Twitch can only ignore them.

Actually, if you look even deeper into the concept of Artistic nudity, you will realize it is not only applied to body paint or ink. It is more about nudity not having the explicit purpose to turn lustful feeling in the expectator, but rather being part of a representation of art. Some examples include artistic depictions of nudity in marble statues or paintings where a naked woman is featured, being one of the oldest representations the body of Aphrodite, the goddess of beauty and fertility.
So if Twitch rules stay the way they are so people are allowed to stream artistic nudity, in theory, there will be artist further encouraged to stream the creation of pornography and at the same time they won't be able to be banned because they could argue whatever they are going is an artistic representation.
It is truly a slap on the face against people who got banned from Twitch for minor things like swearing or doing content which was alledgely not Family friendly, all while this is going on.

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December 17, 2023, 10:40:10 PM
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This is surely a double standard by twitch. If they have decided to allow artistic nudity is same as pornography because those are going to be explicit pictures running in the mind of people including children. Nudity and gambling are suppose to be to the exclusive reserve of adults but with such nudity, children are going to be at risk.

To stream art works with naked bodies is only going to corrupt children more and the reason for banning gambling on their platform is more or less defeated.
Last time, I heard/saw someone which states that nudity is a kind of art. While this is my first time hearing the term "artistic nudity" here. I think this is where the nude models are being painted, or their body are being inked. Maybe this is the ones who were allowed, because the audience can't still see the full naked body of the models.

However, in the eyes of others, especially to the gamblers and gambling streamers, who are once removed, and affected in the decision made by Twitch last time to gambling, they aren't happy with it. Twitch only gave them another weapon to attack them more. But as usual, Twitch can only ignore them.
Not really shocking on things that would really be invented, humans do really love on creating something and calling it something but its actually the same.
We are living on a world on having those drastic changes and decisions made into those people or company will really be basing up into their interested. If Twitch had banned gambling but actually
did allow this artistic nudity then it would be their choice but for sure there would be those people who would really be always loving to criticize on whatever the things they've been deciding.
We know that we cant please anyone on which means that there would be  those people who would really be that that always have something to say.

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It's banned now as well, they tried something but they knew that it would cause trouble and just wanted to see how it would go, and now that it's gone, we ended up with them banning it yet again as well. It was always a bad decision, but they wanted to see what kind of bad it would be, like would it be ok to just keep it going that way or would it be way too much, and it was way more than what they assumed so they banned it.

Gambling being banned on twitch is not a bad idea by the way, I am still supporting it, there are way too many underage people at twitch and you do not know if the yare watching gamblers or not, to be fair they can watch gamblers even at youtube, so it is not like we are hiding it, but we should try our best to not promote gambling to underage people.

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December 19, 2023, 05:59:09 PM
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It's banned now as well, they tried something but they knew that it would cause trouble and just wanted to see how it would go, and now that it's gone, we ended up with them banning it yet again as well. It was always a bad decision, but they wanted to see what kind of bad it would be, like would it be ok to just keep it going that way or would it be way too much, and it was way more than what they assumed so they banned it.
It's true, accordingly to news, a day later the approval of the new policy, they already regret about it and went back on their decision. Tongue

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However, there also was a great deal of new content that was allowed under the updated policy. Much of the content created has been met with community concern. These are concerns we share. Upon reflection, we have decided that we went too far with this change. Digital depictions of nudity present a unique challenge–AI can be used to create realistic images, and it can be hard to distinguish between digital art and photography.

Twitch Walks Back Ridiculous ‘Artistic Nudity’ Policy One Day After Totally Unpredictable Outcome

I think it's funny the platform blamed on AI for canceling the new policy, as the main issue here was the fact it's hard to distinguish between photography and generated AI image. It actually doesn't make any difference. The real point which made total difference was the heavy backlash they suffered from every directions. Public opinion was totally against Twitch's new policy, and they concluded there was no logical reasoning to support nudity on the platform at same time they want to promote it as a family friendly environment for teenagers.

They must have thought: let's blame the failure of the policy on the AIs, move ahead and forget about this matter, for our own good, before more backlashes and inconsistencies come up against us.

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December 19, 2023, 07:26:23 PM
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It's banned now as well, they tried something but they knew that it would cause trouble and just wanted to see how it would go, and now that it's gone, we ended up with them banning it yet again as well. It was always a bad decision, but they wanted to see what kind of bad it would be, like would it be ok to just keep it going that way or would it be way too much, and it was way more than what they assumed so they banned it.

Gambling being banned on twitch is not a bad idea by the way, I am still supporting it, there are way too many underage people at twitch and you do not know if the yare watching gamblers or not, to be fair they can watch gamblers even at youtube, so it is not like we are hiding it, but we should try our best to not promote gambling to underage people.
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Twitch U-turns on 'artistic nudity' policy
Twitch’s ‘artistic nudity’ policy rolled back days after it was introduced

When the masses would really be that opposing such decisions then they would normally that reverting on the things that they've been planning to do.
Of course they would really be mindful about peoples feedbacks and opinions and if they do saw that it would be that negative then they would
really just simply revert it back.

We can say that it is a smart move rather than on trying out to enforce those things but ended up on having those forever non good feeling
towards the company and this isnt something good for them on any angle. So they did the right call i should say or something
that would really be just that normal.
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December 19, 2023, 07:38:57 PM
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Not a long time ago, we had a lot of news and discussions on this forum about Twitch platform censoring gambling lives and content, due to their decision to keep the social media "family friendly".

Ironically, now artistic nudity is allowed (And who is going to define the limit between what is artistic and what is pornography?)!

Shame on those who think that gambling is what will mislead the people from being responsible in life and shift their focus on concentrating on what is important to their lives, many have castigated gambling for the past and now allow for the worst which is nudity, in life, we sometimes create time for the less important things leaving the most important ones behind because we loosed focus along the way forgetting that no one is perfect in life, these same people fighting against gambling and now watching their children doing it and also paving way for immoralities which is worst than gambling.


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December 19, 2023, 08:11:41 PM
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For Twitch, having nudity on their platform is far more acceptable than gambling. It's laughable how certain apps make every effort to prevent users from uploading nude content, whereas Twitch welcomes it with open arms. Is that not strange?

This move by Twitch to censor gambling and tolerate nudity raises concerns about why they would want to do such things, as if it won't undoubtedly ruin the minds of future generations as they keep getting access to it

 
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December 19, 2023, 08:13:37 PM
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Not a long time ago, we had a lot of news and discussions on this forum about Twitch platform censoring gambling lives and content, due to their decision to keep the social media "family friendly".

Ironically, now artistic nudity is allowed (And who is going to define the limit between what is artistic and what is pornography?)!

Shame on those who think that gambling is what will mislead the people from being responsible in life and shift their focus on concentrating on what is important to their lives, many have castigated gambling for the past and now allow for the worst which is nudity, in life, we sometimes create time for the less important things leaving the most important ones behind because we loosed focus along the way forgetting that no one is perfect in life, these same people fighting against gambling and now watching their children doing it and also paving way for immoralities which is worst than gambling.
Well, exposure is the root cause of those problems. We cannot do anything from people who negatively views this industry with terminologies and such. Indeed it is not gambling which pushes a gambler to go all out but the gambler's emotion. However, self-discipline does not take place in a single instance and there should be still a learning procedures which contributes to the negative outcome. Problem only is that gambling industry;wherein there are people who negatively views crypto and gambling investments. Same with platforms wherein they tend to agree with what's mainstream.

Quite unfair also with the platforms.they are sometimes too selective on which one should be promoted or shown to daty.

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December 19, 2023, 08:27:43 PM
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This shows that there are set of organizations that can not do without Gambling, even if they don't gamble, at least they might be making some good profits from it anyway.
It's boring to not gamble, even if one is gambling for profit making, he or she can not feel the vibes of someone who have been a gambler for sometimes, gambling can not take advantage of a gambler unless the gambler decides to create a room for gamble to take advantage of him or her, what I am trying to say is that only an addicted gambler might think that it is wring to know be involve in anything that has to do with gambling.
Gambling is fun but not for fun Roll Eyes so, if one thinks that it is bad to even know about or what gamble is all about them such person is apparently wrong.

 
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December 19, 2023, 08:53:08 PM
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Not a long time ago, we had a lot of news and discussions on this forum about Twitch platform censoring gambling lives and content, due to their decision to keep the social media "family friendly".

Ironically, now artistic nudity is allowed (And who is going to define the limit between what is artistic and what is pornography?)!

Here we can see the double standards of Twitch's developers. Gambling was condemned as something outrageous, but nudity is fine as family friendly content...

Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?

Twitch revamps rules on sexual content

Obviously the whole "we want to make this site safe for families" is just an excuse and a lie. I think they were just afraid of getting into legal trouble and had to cover their tracks. Something obviously happened or some regulations changed for them to become so spooked.

And to be honest, that is completely understandable. If I was the CEO of some streaming site, I would cut out anything which would make me legally liable.

Gambling streams have a lot of bad actors like scammers, underage children and bad financial advisers.

But there are other streaming sites that do not ban gambling, so it is really anybodies guess as to what is happening. It may have been an arbitrary decision by the owners and nothing more.

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