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December 18, 2023, 10:43:35 AM
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Reading terms and conditions of casino have I done that before  Roll Eyes? Nah I don't think so even in some websites i use. Because most of the casino I've used are the one recommended to me by a friend so I don't take my time reading their terms and conditions . But now I'm seeing this post ready drag my interest, what all most gambler think about is the amount they her aiming for. And the fun they will catch doing it. So I guess I haven't.

If you don't love to read you won't read the TOS because it's too long, but there's always an assurance that when you are gambling in a reputable website, their rules are based on standards. Most of the concerns only are the KYC process, so if you aren't ready to comply with that, that should worry you, and if you still want to continue gambling, make sure you don't put a decent amount of money as funds can be frozen once the rules are being activated against you.

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December 18, 2023, 11:07:14 AM
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-  That is important to read first before you decide to deposit money in a casino where you will gamble. So you don't end up in trouble. What often becomes a problem for gamblers who enter crypto gambling is not first reading the TOS of a gambling platform.

Most of them are in a hurry to play, so when they withdraw money, they can't withdraw because they still need kyc. That's why it's important to read it from the very beginning to know what your restrictions are as a gambler or player on the casino platform.

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December 18, 2023, 11:17:02 AM
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I usually don't since they're mainly copy-paste of literally any other ToS out there imo. I do mainly read stuff related to KYC, withdrawals, and whatnot instead which can vary but in general still mostly the same across any other casinos really, but hey, don't want to regret it afterwards because I didn't read jack. You'd almost always want to read ToS related to money stuff when money is well, involved, and casinos are definitely one of those instances. Even if it was limited to the money part, you should definitely take the time imo. I mean, even VPN usages can get you banned and some are unaware of this, what more of other say obscure rules.

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December 18, 2023, 01:26:45 PM
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-  That is important to read first before you decide to deposit money in a casino where you will gamble. So you don't end up in trouble. What often becomes a problem for gamblers who enter crypto gambling is not first reading the TOS of a gambling platform.

Most of them are in a hurry to play, so when they withdraw money, they can't withdraw because they still need kyc. That's why it's important to read it from the very beginning to know what your restrictions are as a gambler or player on the casino platform.
Entering the fascinating world of crypto gaming without reading the tiny print is like driving blindfolded: risky and dumb. Why gamble your mind when you're gambling your money? Even seasoned gamblers make the beginner mistake of ignoring the ToS, your handbook of rules. Not simply KYC, but knowing the game.

It would be a game-changer if these casinos made their ToS more digestible than long and boring. Imagine a clipped or animated explainer video! Today's information must be quick, engaging, and simple. ToS engagement would benefit players and boost casinos' reputations. Time online gambling caught up with information clarity and pleasure!

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December 18, 2023, 03:43:35 PM
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Reviews are not always reliable, especially if they are not from a trusted source. A casino can always pay $20 to a blogger to write very good things about them and publish it for the audience to see and read.
You can always check different reviews about a same online casino, from different websites. And of course, seek for trusted sources, well established sites written by active and legit gamblers who are sharing real and personal experiences, instead of those websites where the owner just want to farm referrals with copied and pasted informations from other platforms or from the casino itself.

The internet is indeed a risky place, where we can't trust other people, since anyone can be paid to say anything, but I believe when you read from some different potential trusted sources and compare the informations among them, you can reach to a decent and accurate conclusion about the casino you are willing to deposit and play.

Even if a certain review isn't paid or fake, you can't have any idea about the terms and conditions of the platform by reading the article. An article about Stake will only give you a review about their services, their website, customer support, etc. It wouldn't tell you anything about the terms and conditions.
Well, it actually would, because it's part of the review to highlight rules, prohibitions, withdrawals limits, KYC terms and so on... These are all elements contained on terms and conditions of the platform, as @stomachgrowls said earlier:

Highlighting would really be just enough,there's no need for you to read up the entire text just to know on what are those prohibitions which might
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1. Country restriction
2. VPN access
3. Deposit/Withdrawal limits
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December 18, 2023, 10:49:46 PM
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What is your take on this?

No, just like many websites I sign-up for online, I usually don't read the terms and conditions when signing up for a new online casino service. Of course, the basic situation here isn't because I don't want to be informed about the terms and conditions of the website I registered to or because of irresponsibility. Generally, many casino services and websites use similar terms and conditions documents and since I am not aware of many important articles here, I don't read all the articles one by one during each registration. Although this is a partially faulty behavior, as I mentioned it hasn't caused me to experience any different or abnormal problems at least so far since I already know the basic and most important terms and conditions.

So, is it important to read the terms and conditions? Of course, it is very important for someone who becomes a member of an online casino business for the first time to read this document at least once and to be informed about the generally used terms and conditions. Anyone who is knowledgeable about the generally used terms and conditions doesn't have to do this during each registration but for a website or online gambling service that he/she doesn't trust or that he/she has heard of for the first time it will be beneficial to read it specifically for that business or website.
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December 19, 2023, 05:55:23 PM
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.
Who does that? I mean not only I do not read the terms and conditions of a casino that I gamble at, unless I am about to do something grey and I want to make sure (like using vpn) but also I do not read it anywhere else neither. Every game, every software, every website I join has one of those and I do not have the time to read 20+ pages worth of terms and conditions for every single one of them.

I know that's wrong and I know that I should be reading it, but the majority of the world does not do that at all, they rather just skip it and accept without reading it. That's how we all are, those are mostly just copy paste stuff anyway, and they do not really care about you accepting or not, they just don't want you to sue them, and put the terms and conditions there to prevent anyone going to court, I am not going to court so I don't care.

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December 19, 2023, 06:25:41 PM
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If casinos will make their terms and conditions more shorter and readable, a lot more gamblers will take the time to read through what the casino says. The problem with term and conditions is that asides the fact that they can be long and boring, the font used for the writing of theses terms is not always attractive to read, hence many gamblers do not waste time there, but will quickly accept the terms and conditions even without reading.

Why do you talk about making it shot? Like, what part of the terms on the casino will you advise them to remove? The terms and conditions that they post there are their legal agreement between their customers, which are the gamblers, and them, who are the casino, and when you want to go into an agreement, everything should be in detail, meaning no single line of the agreement should be removed as a result of trying to reduce the size.
 
And beside, anyone who is unable to read through those agreements when they are detailed might also find another reason not to read them, even if they're reduced to one line. There will always be an excuse for us to use and justify our laziness.
 
Besides, not all parts of information are needed to be completed before you can understand the whole thing; you can just pick those that you are interested in and read about them in places like withdrawal limits, legal restrictions, KYC, and a lot more, which could result in funds being frozen and all of that.

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December 19, 2023, 06:56:41 PM
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?
I will admit that I have not always read the TOS before creating an account, but you can be sure that by the time I made my first deposit I have read the entire thing, and while the TOS of most casinos can be very similar, sometimes you can find some policies that seem to be extremely favorable to the casino for the detriment of the player, and when that is the case I forget about that casino and if possible I just eliminate my account as I know I am never making a deposit at that casino.

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 #130

The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?
I will admit that I have not always read the TOS before creating an account, but you can be sure that by the time I made my first deposit I have read the entire thing, and while the TOS of most casinos can be very similar, sometimes you can find some policies that seem to be extremely favorable to the casino for the detriment of the player, and when that is the case I forget about that casino and if possible I just eliminate my account as I know I am never making a deposit at that casino.
All of us for sure are really that guilty with this on which it would really be just that normal that we would really be skipping out on reading up those terms and conditions just because it is really just that too long.
Normally we would be thinking that it would really be requiring some time for you to read it up as a whole on which it wont really be something that we do really like to spend time on just reading those text.
Even myself would really be guilty on this one on which i  dont really tend to make those kind of reading or checking with those terms and conditions on which i do simply just stick into those known and reputable sites
on which i do assume that im really that dealing in the right place.

Yes, its true that there would really be terms on which you would really be needing up to learn like KYC and restricted countries on which these are the usually things that would be altered
or would really differ into each other on which it would really be just that important to check out those things for peace of mind. These are the only information that
i do really check out and not really reading up the whole text in overall.

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December 19, 2023, 07:05:20 PM
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-  That is important to read first before you decide to deposit money in a casino where you will gamble. So you don't end up in trouble. What often becomes a problem for gamblers who enter crypto gambling is not first reading the TOS of a gambling platform.

I know as well that only fee gamblers do take time to read about the gambling platforms rules and regulations as stated in their ToS and later when they begin to have issues with the site, they keep on complaining giving series of excuses for what they were responsible for.

Most of them are in a hurry to play, so when they withdraw money, they can't withdraw because they still need kyc. That's why it's important to read it from the very beginning to know what your restrictions are as a gambler or player on the casino platform.

Some are not only in a hurry to play bet, they have it in mind that they can't just waste their time in reading through, so in this case, we also have to considers the gamblers especially those that were too lazy to read long posts to always summarize the rules for them than making a number of pages to constitute the rules, which is one of the reasons some don't read them.

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December 19, 2023, 07:17:06 PM
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?
Trying to find out whether KYC status is required or not at the casino I want to register with. Then, if it doesn't require KYC, I will register. On gambling sites that use fiat currency in my local country, I don't read long terms and conditions anymore because they don't require players to do KYC. However, when I have free time, I will take the time to read all the terms and conditions they make.

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December 19, 2023, 07:37:53 PM
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Trying to find out whether KYC status is required or not at the casino I want to register with. Then, if it doesn't require KYC, I will register. On gambling sites that use fiat currency in my local country, I don't read long terms and conditions anymore because they don't require players to do KYC. However, when I have free time, I will take the time to read all the terms and conditions they make.
Either a gambling site requires KYC or not, reading the terms and conditions is very important. If you are not new to gambling online, you can just skim and scan through the terms and conditions. Just know that local gambling sites may not require for KYC because you use your bank to fund the account and you also provide phone number phone number. As your bank account is connected to it, it is enough as KYC.

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December 19, 2023, 07:46:31 PM
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?
The terms and conditions of a service should be mandatory for every potential customer to read, this can prevent you from accidentally breaking the rules in the future. I know reading the terms and conditions of a service is tedious, but useful.

But one thing may be true, almost all services with the same business idea have almost the same terms and conditions too. If it's about casinos, I don't read everything and just highlight some important information like KYC and also restricted countries. Apart from that, the currency accepted may also need to be considered because each gambler has their own preferences in using this currency.

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December 19, 2023, 08:17:28 PM
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them.
Of course, the terms and conditions are always very lengthy because it tells us a lot of important information in the casinos. For lazy people, they will feel bored to read the terms and conditions but it won't be a boring thing for smart people. I will never register my account on a casino if I don't read the terms and conditions carefully. It is a very important part for me, I don't want to miss reading something on it. Since it is like a guide, it is quite strange if people feel lazy to read it. It means they don't care about the safety of their account and data on the casino.  Undecided

To be fair I think not everything in the terms and conditions are very important that we have to read all of them before creating an account. You can actually jump straight to your most important details such as whether you're allowed to play there from where you're living. Or if you're very particular about any possibility that you'll be asked to provide personal information, you can go ahead and look for the specific items pertaining to the gathering or keeping of those information.
I don't think so. Every part of the term and conditions is important, it is necessary to read as a whole. If you skip some parts, you probably miss some important issues on the term and conditions. Although it probably takes a long time, I really suggest that everyone must read all parts of the term and conditions. Don't get a problem because we don't read it carefully!!


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December 19, 2023, 08:35:24 PM
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?
The terms and conditions of a service should be mandatory for every potential customer to read, this can prevent you from accidentally breaking the rules in the future. I know reading the terms and conditions of a service is tedious, but useful.

Of course, I think it is indeed a very important thing, it is impossible for the casino to also provide something that is not useful for gamblers who want to get involved, nothing else I know is that the casino provides conditions for gamblers, namely to avoid accusations of fraud, or the intention is that the casino avoids accusations from gamblers who do not understand the rules and regulations in the casino.

Yes, it's true that sometimes it's quite boring and I think that feeling is very common for some people, usually they will be lazy when reading something that is certainly quite long but after all it's for the common good, after all you don't need hours to just read a notice like that, by taking at least 1-5 minutes it doesn't matter because it's for your own benefit to avoid breaking the rules which even the possibility could be that your account is frozen and finally there are accusations on the casino.

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December 19, 2023, 08:37:57 PM
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.
Who does that? I mean not only I do not read the terms and conditions of a casino that I gamble at, unless I am about to do something grey and I want to make sure (like using vpn) but also I do not read it anywhere else neither. Every game, every software, every website I join has one of those and I do not have the time to read 20+ pages worth of terms and conditions for every single one of them.
This is exactly the problem, having time to read that important things that matters is where many people miss it. They can hide some key weakness of the casino in the T&C knowing that not many people find time to read through. You will only find out you accepted them when there is dispute.

I know that's wrong and I know that I should be reading it, but the majority of the world does not do that at all, they rather just skip it and accept without reading it. That's how we all are, those are mostly just copy paste stuff anyway, and they do not really care about you accepting or not, they just don't want you to sue them, and put the terms and conditions there to prevent anyone going to court, I am not going to court so I don't care.
You never know if you will win a huge multiplier jackpot one day. Hope you know that some casinos put some rules when you win certain amounts. They might put conditions that night require you going to court when you win big. It will be better you read and know them from the beginning than waiting to realise when it is late.

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December 19, 2023, 10:33:54 PM
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?
The terms and conditions of a service should be mandatory for every potential customer to read, this can prevent you from accidentally breaking the rules in the future. I know reading the terms and conditions of a service is tedious, but useful.

Of course, I think it is indeed a very important thing, it is impossible for the casino to also provide something that is not useful for gamblers who want to get involved, nothing else I know is that the casino provides conditions for gamblers, namely to avoid accusations of fraud, or the intention is that the casino avoids accusations from gamblers who do not understand the rules and regulations in the casino.

Yes, it's true that sometimes it's quite boring and I think that feeling is very common for some people, usually they will be lazy when reading something that is certainly quite long but after all it's for the common good, after all you don't need hours to just read a notice like that, by taking at least 1-5 minutes it doesn't matter because it's for your own benefit to avoid breaking the rules which even the possibility could be that your account is frozen and finally there are accusations on the casino.

The terms and conditions are pretty long. We are too lazy to read and cannot remember them all. However, these things are beneficial for players. We can safely understand the rules and regulations of the casino. And as you said, avoid freezing players' accounts. I have encountered many very annoying cases when my account was frozen.

Instead, we ask someone to show us the steps of the casino. Instead, the casino guided us through everything. I have read and followed those instructions and terms.

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December 19, 2023, 10:51:17 PM
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I'd be a hypocrite if I say I read the terms of agreement and conditions as thorough as you could. At the end of the day we have the attention spans of a goldfish and of course, we wouldn't have time for all of that shit especially when all you're in for is a quick entertaining game and possibly a good time as well. Which is why I so advocate for more interactive and evoking introduction of rules and regulations when you're introducing your product. If it's in your heart to really let your customers know what they're getting themselves, it will only make sense for you to make it more interactive and informative. But I also understand at the same time the limitations by which you could make things more interesting for the people, not to mention the probable millions of dollars it's gonna cost the casino to make such an overhaul. So at the very least, to make sure that I don't get fucked with when I gamble with a new casino (which I rarely do nowadays as I pick favorites too quickly), I skim each section of the terms and conditions so I don't miss out on the important stuff while still making sure that I don't waste as much time as possible. It's only fair that way if you'll ask me and I guess everyone should try the same thing too so we don't get instances here of people getting banned for seemingly the most random stuff only for them to find out that it was included in the terms and agreement of the casino they're playing in years ago.

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December 20, 2023, 09:12:53 PM
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Trying to find out whether KYC status is required or not at the casino I want to register with. Then, if it doesn't require KYC, I will register. On gambling sites that use fiat currency in my local country, I don't read long terms and conditions anymore because they don't require players to do KYC. However, when I have free time, I will take the time to read all the terms and conditions they make.
Either a gambling site requires KYC or not, reading the terms and conditions is very important. If you are not new to gambling online, you can just skim and scan through the terms and conditions. Just know that local gambling sites may not require for KYC because you use your bank to fund the account and you also provide phone number phone number. As your bank account is connected to it, it is enough as KYC.
It is true that the terms and conditions of the casino are important to read because they are all written there. For players who are not beginners for a long time, it is important to take the time to read all the terms and conditions when you have free time.
And you are right if you gamble on a local site, you don't need KYC because account registration is done by entering the full name that matches the name listed on the bank account, email, telephone number which has confirmed them.
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