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Author Topic: Do you take time to read the terms and conditions of casinos before registering?  (Read 3293 times)
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December 16, 2023, 12:22:57 PM
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1. KYC requirement needed or not
2. Restricted countries
3. Deposit and withdrawal

After checking those, I will later find time to read the ToS in full anytime that I am less busy, but when I am already using the site.

This is a good suggestion, because it's the most important thing especially the Deposit and Withdrawal section, so when we've made a deposit, we don't have any trouble withdrawing it. Honestly, I'm very rarely and lazy to read a rule that's so long, usually I ask it to someone else who's already been a user. Especially related to withdrawal of funds and KYC should be done or not.
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December 16, 2023, 12:28:54 PM
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If casinos will make their terms and conditions more shorter and readable, a lot more gamblers will take the time to read through what the casino says. The problem with term and conditions is that asides the fact that they can be long and boring, the font used for the writing of theses terms is not always attractive to read, hence many gamblers do not waste time there, but will quickly accept the terms and conditions even without reading.

Some other gamblers also assume that the terms and conditions of all casinos are the same, so because they have read the T and C for this casino, they do not read the  conditions by the other casino.

I agree with this.

Most people do not really read the whole terms of service because typically, the TOS is too long to read which makes it boring and time consuming that's why some people become lazy and do not read it despite the consequences. There were times back then that I didn't bother to read before clicking the i agree button and that's definitely not something to be followed upon. If you decided not to read it, just be ready for the consequences. Because reading the conditions and policies of the casino is very important since it's highly possible that the deciding factor/s is almost everytime stated there.

If you want to avoid trouble and hassle in the long run, you should sacrifice some time reading the whole thing.
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December 16, 2023, 12:38:08 PM
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Reading the rules of each casino where we gamble is a must, even if we only read some of the rules. Maybe we need to look for basic regulations such as withdrawals, deposits, KYC, and anything else we want so that we know the rules that are allowed and not allowed by the casino. This is to prevent us from making mistakes that could give us difficulties. As customers or gamblers at the casino, we must know the rules before registering or creating an account. If we don't match the rules, we can look for another casino that we want.

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December 16, 2023, 12:41:56 PM
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?
To be honest, I find it tiring reading all those lengthy post. Although I know I should be aware on that in the first place, but as long as the casino itself is known reputable and has no pile of complaints, I just feel confident to gamble.

But when I started gambling, I make time to read the terms and conditions of every casino I played. Until time comes that I've become a regular gambler, and definitely gets tired of reading almost all the same lengthy post.
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December 16, 2023, 12:44:47 PM
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?

It may be boring but this will save you a lot of trouble if you decide to play and take the casino seriously, whether it's boring or it will take you the time you have to read it and not only read it but also understand it because without reading and understand these terms of services, you have no guide on how you proceed on the casino that you're going to play, like checking if your location is allowed to play in the casino, and also about KYC and when and how they ask KYC and what are the necessary documents so you can prepare beforehand if ever they need you to do KYC.

It's irresponsible if you just sign up deposit and play without reading and fully understanding the terms of service of the casino you're playing, you can not make an excuse for not being aware or forgetting to read their TOS, all casinos may have the same TOS but be sure to check some casino makes their TOS different from other casinos, so prevent having issues read, understand and get an update on the TOS of the casinos that you're interested to play.

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December 16, 2023, 12:52:32 PM
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It is actually very important for gamblers to read and thoroughly understand the terms and conditions of the online casino they use before doing so.
But most of them don't do that, including me, because I think the terms and conditions of all casinos are the same and only have slight differences. And it's also not very important for me to read everything because I'm not an active gambler, but regarding KYC and also regarding deposit and withdrawal rules it is very important to read because not all casinos are the same and for that I will try to take the time to read it.

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December 16, 2023, 01:03:27 PM
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If you are a newbie in gambling then it's better to read the terms and conditions the first time. It's not that long so it's better to make an effort to read them all. Why? Once you switch to another gambling site it won't be that difficult anymore to read their terms. You can just simply browse them and see if there's anything different about what you initially read.
It's true that many gamblers do not put time into reading the terms but that is why many gamblers do not understand the rules and they tend to get angry if they make mistakes because they don't understand anything especially when it's about KYC and wagering requirements. I think we have already seen a lot of questions here in the forum about it that proves many gamblers still don't understand it and they tend to get angry first without even knowing that it's all written in the terms.

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December 16, 2023, 01:06:31 PM
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?
I think we have discussed it about this here, but maybe there will be a new view of new people and other thoughts, but still for me even though it seems very disturbing for me personally but if you think more broadly then the KYC is needed, because of money laundering It often happens and is detrimental.

But if we want to avoid it there are some casinos that limit the number of gambling before it is required to do KYC so you don't need to worry, it's just that you cannot make a withdrawal or a deposit with the amount of boundaries that have been determined by each casino that makes a policy like this.

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December 16, 2023, 01:11:09 PM
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I agree with you; my usual method is to scan, occasionally even skip, those lengthy terms. Our minds are designed to be efficient, isn't that right? We naturally shy away from tasks that look laborious, like reading lengthy documents. Humans naturally gravitate toward clarity and simplicity, particularly in a time when time seems like a luxury. Even still, those terms have a purpose, despite how meaningless they may appear. They are important yet frequently disregarded, much like the fine print in a contract. Companies and casinos don't merely add them for kicks. They include important details on our privileges, limitations, and processes such as KYC for AMl

What then is the compromise? Maybe we must admit that these documents, despite their lack of excitement, are significant. It's about striking a balance between the need to be informed and our innate inclination to avoid boring jobs. It's not necessary for us to read every word; in fact, a cursory scan of the headings and the sections that look most pertinent is probably a more sensible course of action. We may stay informed without becoming overburdened in this way. It's preferable to have some knowledge than to be totally ignorant, don't you think?

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December 16, 2023, 01:49:08 PM
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Reading the rules of each casino where we gamble is a must, even if we only read some of the rules. Maybe we need to look for basic regulations such as withdrawals, deposits, KYC, and anything else we want so that we know the rules that are allowed and not allowed by the casino. This is to prevent us from making mistakes that could give us difficulties. As customers or gamblers at the casino, we must know the rules before registering or creating an account. If we don't match the rules, we can look for another casino that we want.

that's right, I myself don't read all the other rules, when I register at the casino, I only read the rules about deposits, withdrawals and KYC, because in my opinion there are no different rules but from those three things that usually have differences, so there are no more rules that I read or understand because I'm used to like understanding those three things is enough and can play immediately.

maybe there are also people who read all the rules carefully to understand all the rules in the casino. but that doesn't apply to me, somehow I can't take the time to read and understand all the rules listed.

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December 16, 2023, 01:53:05 PM
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?

Before now the terms of service used to be long and ambiguous. But I think this has reduced to a large extent because these terms have become less cumbersome. It is very important to read and understand the terms of service. If you refuse to read the terms of service before registering in a casino you will be forced to read it when you have problems. Some of these casinos will tell you that you don't need KYC but in their terms of service you will have to provide personal information when you want to withdraw.

I always suggest to gamblers not to be carried away by bonuses or other offers by the casino until they have invested time in reading and understanding the terms of service. Casinos can promise you anything just to make you a customer but the true nature of the casino is clear in the ToS.

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December 16, 2023, 02:06:51 PM
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1. KYC requirement needed or not
2. Restricted countries
3. Deposit and withdrawal

1. I do not need to read about KYC terms anymore since most casinos are the same where they reserve the right to ask KYC anytime.
Maybe the only difference among casinos is that the KYC is mandatory or not.
2. It is a must to read to avoid something bad later because there are many cases where players who come from restricted countries do not notice that the casino has this terms.
3. Withdrawal limit (minimum and maximum) and withdrawal fee are 2 important things to read and maybe about the processing time, whether the casino process withdrawal instantly or manually.
If I have to add, I'll add about VPN usage since I believe there are still many players who like to gamble with VPN for their own reason.
 

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December 16, 2023, 02:52:08 PM
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?
I'm going to bet that 90% or more of the players who sign up for a casino do not read the ToS. That's why we see so many scam accusations and a good portion of those are from users that didn't read the ToS and are breaking them.

If you are going to be a regular player on a site and deposit a decent amount of money(loose term as decent can be different amounts to everyone), it's best to make sure you know the sites rules and will be able to cashout on a big win.

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December 16, 2023, 03:21:57 PM
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?

You're irresponsible and you don't care if you do not bother to read the TOS of the casinos you're playing and you're going to play, the Terms Of Service are very important, I always make it a point to read them many times and fully understand and check for additional updates if there are new updates.
So many accounts perish or suffer because of ignoring the terms of services and I have so many complaints on the scam section forfeiting their payout because they failed to read or get updated on the new TOS.
Terms of created as a guide for gamblers, if you find it boring and thinks that all terms are the same then you are in big trouble, it may not be later but soon.
 
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December 16, 2023, 03:37:07 PM
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I'm going to bet that 90% or more of the players who sign up for a casino do not read the ToS. That's why we see so many scam accusations and a good portion of those are from users that didn't read the ToS and are breaking them.
Most times, I do not bother reading the ToS of casinos because I already know that most of what is written there are all the same with other casinos ToS maybe just a slight difference. This is true when you play at very reputable casinos. Scam accusations bothers on failure to read the ToS, Failure to thoroughly understand the ToS, purposefully breaking the rules, or even playing in an unfamiliar casino.

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December 16, 2023, 03:58:39 PM
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?
It's true in the terms and conditions of most casinos, they do contain the solution to most of the issues and complains made by some of their clients and they don't go through it only to go complaining when the are faced with these challenges when they arise in course of them make use of the platform of which they would have resolved themselves by reading the terms earlier.

Personally I don't read all through the terms and conditions but I skim through and make sure to pick and understand some points after which I proceed with my registration to get on the platform and proceed to placing my bets but then most times I do refer to the terms if at any point I feel like I don't understand really well what is really happening with my account or probably I seem not to be able to resolve issues my self then I further proceed to reach out to the customer care unit. This is because like you did stated the terms are sometimes boring and takes too much of time to read.

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December 16, 2023, 03:59:36 PM
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?
I'm going to bet that 90% or more of the players who sign up for a casino do not read the ToS. That's why we see so many scam accusations and a good portion of those are from users that didn't read the ToS and are breaking them.

If you are going to be a regular player on a site and deposit a decent amount of money(loose term as decent can be different amounts to everyone), it's best to make sure you know the sites rules and will be able to cashout on a big win.

That's right, I'm sure that what you said is a true fact and also a strong reason why there are still many gamblers who make accusations on some casinos where they engage in gambling activities. Honestly, I don't really know why they are so lazy to read some of the ToS provided by the casino, but what is certain is that overall and in general most people don't like rules or they don't like to be regulated in any way so they ignore the ToS, even though I think it doesn't hurt to take a little time to read it, with that they will know and understand about everything in the casino, especially in terms of possible risks.

Basically it's all their right whether they will read it or not, I think it's likely that casinos should create a system that can make gamblers feel forced to read and understand the ToS first before they engage in gambling, at least it will be useful to minimize some of the accusations that will occur.

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December 16, 2023, 04:00:23 PM
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?
To be honest, the terms and conditions have been an issue for consumers in all fields you can think of. This is also one of the reasons why, at times, when the condition is tight enough and possibly could be bent, the judge always sides with the consumer. This often happens in the US. Come to think of it, most terms and conditions are too cumbersome, and to many people, they need a lawyer to interpret them for them. Stop kidding, this is not because they can't read, but even if they read it over and over again at times, they might not get it. And to make matters worse, companies/casinos do not do the simplified version, at least most of them even though I know a broker that gives the hint on what the terms and conditions are all about.

For these, I am guilty of the question, I do not read terms and conditions, but for obvious reasons, and this is part of the reasons I don't take any bonus from any casinos. I couldn't even waste my time on that as it might take several hours to be able to fully read some terms and conditions, digest and understand. Just to play play game? Despite this though, there are some needed questions that are obvious that I point directly to the support staff of the casino to be sure of their stand about them. They often contain the basics I need to know. With that, I am good to go than wasting my time on too many voluminous terms and conditions.
We've all struggled through legalese created to confuse and trap us. Isnt it annoying everyone? Companies, especially casinos, create these documents like complicated puzzles. Why? Why? Because they can and it helps them, not customers. The meaning of ToS sometimes gets lost in translation from legal language to layman's terms. It's ingenious, keeping users like us in the dark about what we're committing to. A tale for you: After hours of dissecting a casino's ToS, I still didnt comprehend the stakes. It seemed like an attempt to wear me down and make me click "I agree" without really agreeing.

Your questions are directed at support personnel for clarification. Smart move. A system that favors obscurity over transparency makes it a workable workaround. Our critical and resourceful approach to these murky waters requires skepticism and prudence.

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December 16, 2023, 04:10:30 PM
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?
To be honest, the terms and conditions have been an issue for consumers in all fields you can think of. This is also one of the reasons why, at times, when the condition is tight enough and possibly could be bent, the judge always sides with the consumer. This often happens in the US. Come to think of it, most terms and conditions are too cumbersome, and to many people, they need a lawyer to interpret them for them. Stop kidding, this is not because they can't read, but even if they read it over and over again at times, they might not get it. And to make matters worse, companies/casinos do not do the simplified version, at least most of them even though I know a broker that gives the hint on what the terms and conditions are all about.

For these, I am guilty of the question, I do not read terms and conditions, but for obvious reasons, and this is part of the reasons I don't take any bonus from any casinos. I couldn't even waste my time on that as it might take several hours to be able to fully read some terms and conditions, digest and understand. Just to play play game? Despite this though, there are some needed questions that are obvious that I point directly to the support staff of the casino to be sure of their stand about them. They often contain the basics I need to know. With that, I am good to go than wasting my time on too many voluminous terms and conditions.
We've all struggled through legalese created to confuse and trap us. Isnt it annoying everyone? Companies, especially casinos, create these documents like complicated puzzles. Why? Why? Because they can and it helps them, not customers. The meaning of ToS sometimes gets lost in translation from legal language to layman's terms. It's ingenious, keeping users like us in the dark about what we're committing to. A tale for you: After hours of dissecting a casino's ToS, I still didnt comprehend the stakes. It seemed like an attempt to wear me down and make me click "I agree" without really agreeing.

Your questions are directed at support personnel for clarification. Smart move. A system that favors obscurity over transparency makes it a workable workaround. Our critical and resourceful approach to these murky waters requires skepticism and prudence.
The terms and conditions often offered by these casinos is for their benefits mostly because which business is in it if not for making profits.
It is individuals that are to bear the brunt of reading thoroughly so as not to be fined or penalized or denied their rewards when the win .
I don't think anyone really cares to read the damn thing, but just has to agree inorder to enjoy the thrill of what the casino is about to offer.

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December 16, 2023, 04:19:57 PM
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The majority is not reading those terms and conditions, they are the same in every casino and the words can be something that is not meant to be understood by a regular person. The legal terms are just mumbo-jumbo words but when a regular gambler suddenly finds himself blocked or suspended by the casino, that's when he'd read back the terms as the casino representative referred him to the violation he broke or mandated to submit the KYC documents.

Online gamblers are internet savvy already, if they want to learn about the casino and its reviews, they will just search it on Google and find all the feedbacks that's just it and register if they find no negative feedback.

It is recommended to read but due to the repetitive signups we do to multiple websites all of which have the terms and conditions, it gets tiring sometimes besides we have no intention of breaking any rules.

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