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[aioc]

Hello everyone,
I've been betting on Rollbit for about two months, just yesterday a friend of mine was banned after completing KYC and the reason they gave him was that he was an Italian user.
Without completing the KYC, is it possible to operate on Rollbit also for Italian users?
I ask for help because I don't want to find myself with blocked funds just for being Italian

It's going to hurt sooner or later if you're going to ignore reading the terms of service, honestly, I also find reading terms of service boring, reading these terms hurts the eyes because of too many words and some casinos put a lot of words that are confusing and repetitive, but you have no choice but to understand and read the terms because if there's any issue on your account, the terms are your best defense, and this will save you from all the troubles, be sure that before you start playing you fully understand the terms or better defer playing until you fully understand everything.

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[erep]

but I'm thinking of another solution option, if he hasn't applied for KYC but he uses other people's data from a legal gambling country, will the KYC be accepted?

I wouldn't recommend doing this. Not only because it is cheating but because it will do nothing but complicating things and making it harder to reach a friendly resolution for the problem.
Casinos already know about these cheating techniques and it will be hard to fool them. In OP's friend case, Rollbit asked him to verify his identity because they most likely know he is from a restricted country. If he submits fake documents, they will definitely ask for a extended verification such as a video call.

Better be honest and if you are lucky enough, they might let you withdraw your initial deposit.

Maybe my suggestions and solutions are not to be imitated but I only provide solutions to deal with problems experienced in being able to withdraw funds, I mean he transferred the account to another person to verify KYC and also for video call verification if needed, but I hope they are given permission to withdraw the initial deposit without needing to verify the account. However, everyone should pay attention to the terms and conditions even if you don't like reading a bunch of boring sentences but the fact is that all the rules depend on those sentences, users need to skim through the TOS to make sure there are no rules prohibiting their country from gambling at that casino.

[Wapfika]

Maybe my suggestions and solutions are not to be imitated but I only provide solutions to deal with problems experienced in being able to withdraw funds, I mean he transferred the account to another person to verify KYC and also for video call verification if needed, but I hope they are given permission to withdraw the initial deposit without needing to verify the account. However, everyone should pay attention to the terms and conditions even if you don't like reading a bunch of boring sentences but the fact is that all the rules depend on those sentences, users need to skim through the TOS to make sure there are no rules prohibiting their country from gambling at that casino.

This is really not a solution because of the IP difference when he create the account and play to the new IP which he will use to fake the KYC. Besides OP is still not caught yet which means he still have a time to withdraw his fund without doing KYC.

Faking KYC while you live on a restricted country will just make your funds forever frozen since you try to cheat instead of admitting your from restricted country since casino needs to refund the deposit no matter what happened due to legality of the issue.

[CODE200]

Sure that's what you've believe it to be but to me as a consumer, it shouldn't be my responsibility to sift through all the deeper words and technical mumbo jumbo because the more I spend understanding the words that I don't understand and even know the meaning it will end up with me having to less time gambling plus they probably should've just highlighted the spots that we need to know, the casinos should know by now that anyone's going to complay to all these stupid demands anyway since the players don't get to play there if they don't accept the terms and conditions, if that's not the case I'm sure a lot of people have been disagreeing with these terms and conditions.

There is no way you sign up on a site and disagree with the terms and conditions even after you read it and it does not sit well with you, you can only disagree if you don't want to use the site, but as long as you want to use that, you must agree to their terms and conditions or you just get out  . I this exactly what part of centralization is all about, and entity wilding all the power, while the user either agree to their bid or look else where.

And speaking of casinos making the part of their terms and conditions which users really have to know available to them, what I did tell you is, you should not allow your laziness to read deceive you into believing that there is a special part of terms and conditions that should be known while the other parts shouldnt  , every part of a casino's terms and conditions is very important to know as a user, but then, most users just find the entire document so uninteresting to read including myself  .

No matter how much you want to convince me, I will never have the energy and time to read the terms and conditions, I'm not Bilbo Baggins of the Shire! I do agree with your opinion and I think that everyone should be like that if they want to be secure as much as they want to be and reading them makes it easy for them to avoid what the terms and conditions says. See, even you aren't that enthusiastic and interested at reading a boring legal wall of text which means that weren't so different after all.

[Wiwo]

Maybe my suggestions and solutions are not to be imitated but I only provide solutions to deal with problems experienced in being able to withdraw funds, I mean he transferred the account to another person to verify KYC and also for video call verification if needed, but I hope they are given permission to withdraw the initial deposit without needing to verify the account. However, everyone should pay attention to the terms and conditions even if you don't like reading a bunch of boring sentences but the fact is that all the rules depend on those sentences, users need to skim through the TOS to make sure there are no rules prohibiting their country from gambling at that casino.

This is really not a solution because of the IP difference when he create the account and play to the new IP which he will use to fake the KYC. Besides OP is still not caught yet which means he still have a time to withdraw his fund without doing KYC.

Faking KYC while you live on a restricted country will just make your funds forever frozen since you try to cheat instead of admitting your from restricted country since casino needs to refund the deposit no matter what happened due to legality of the issue.

Asking another user to get through kyc process instead of the real account owner is another crime against casino and at such Wapfika suggestion is not work for the ops at some point and since the ops made the mistake of not reading the terms and conditions of the casino,  he has violated the first rule,  which is not reading the rules at all and now that his account is having issues,  the only option left is to comply with whatever the casino come out with and try to get himself cleared.

Is very bad to use a site where you don't know what the terms of operations are and what possible reality awaits you in the future,  such as in ops situations.

[LEVSKI7]

From a legal point of view, the fault lies entirely with the site. It allowed the game to be registered and played

[KiaKia]

Everyone hates reading terms of services and I know why, looking at a page full of worlds just feel tired to me before I start reading, I know how it feels but on the other part, reading through it will reveal some secrets to you, maybe you are already about to do something wrong, but you don't know it.

I will advice everyone to take their time with Terms of Services first, to avoid stories that touch later, there are so many stories about casinos scamming them on here and when you read through it you will see that they don't read the Terms of Services first.

You don't have to read it all at once, and you don't have to rush into a casino all because you quickly want to start gambling, give it time, do some reading and come back the next day if you feel it's too much to read, this will save you from possible mistakes that you can only identify as mistake if you read through the Terms of Services.

[darkangel11]

From a legal point of view, the fault lies entirely with the site. It allowed the game to be registered and played

Are you sure about that?
Think of a situation where you have a guard dog and a gate with a warning sign "do not enter, guard dog inside." and someone opens the gate and walks in. Who is responsible for the bite, you, the dog, or the person who walked in despite the warning? It's impossible for any site to do KYC and check the account on the same day that it's registered.
I'm against casinos holding player's money and I think the fair way to settle this would be to return whatever is left from player's deposit and keep the rest. This way the casino is fair towards authorities because the gambler did not profit and the gambler gets to keep the deposit.

[BitcoinPanther]

From a legal point of view, the fault lies entirely with the site. It allowed the game to be registered and played

I do not agree that the fault lies entirely on the site.  The player can circumvent geolocation through the use of VPN or TOR.  It is also stated on their TOS that they do not allow player from the restricted country.  If the player only have read the ToS and if they are the one among those people who live in the restricted country then they should voluntarily give up the idea of registering to the site.

We all know that most of the online casino skip reading the ToS and just click the confirmation that they had read and agree with the Terms of the casino.  So how can it be entirely the casinos fault when they already stated on their terms the restricted country and still these people from these banned country still register and play on the site?

[Mahanton]

From a legal point of view, the fault lies entirely with the site. It allowed the game to be registered and played

I do not agree that the fault lies entirely on the site.  The player can circumvent geolocation through the use of VPN or TOR.  It is also stated on their TOS that they do not allow player from the restricted country.  If the player only have read the ToS and if they are the one among those people who live in the restricted country then they should voluntarily give up the idea of registering to the site.

We all know that most of the online casino skip reading the ToS and just click the confirmation that they had read and agree with the Terms of the casino.  So how can it be entirely the casinos fault when they already stated on their terms the restricted country and still these people from these banned country still register and play on the site?

Totally agree on what you have said that it wasnt all fault of the site because if those people had just read up on what stated on the terms and conditions then you do already make yourself that aware or being wary on what are the things that should be avoided. Not all sites would really be totally restricting out or ip ban access despite of those prohibitions. This is why it would really be that always relevant that you should really be making yourself that aware and read up those terms and conditions on making yourself to be wary on whatever on things that had been stated.

Just like the rest been saying is that people would really be just that mindful on reading up those terms on the time that they would be experiencing those problems and they would really be just telling to themselves that they are really that wrong but we know that there would really be those type of person who would really be trying out to make some arguments that they were never commit out such thing or didnt have that violation
which is really that absurd. This one would really be opening up their minds and make out some realization that reading up sites ToS would really be always relevant and would really be that important.

[Ojima-ojo]

From a legal point of view, the fault lies entirely with the site. It allowed the game to be registered and played

You mean the casino was supposed to ban or restrict ip(s) accessing the forum from italy?, if this is what you actually meant, then I did say that you are right to some extent, but also have it in mind that for such restrictions, non Italian users may sometimes get affected due to a bug or some other reasons.

So, for me, it's always better to simply state the number of jurisdictions or countries that the casino are not providing service to, its up to the players accessing the casino to avoid such casino after reading their terms of service and realizing that the his or her country is not supported.

So to this effect, I did advice op to stay away from Rollbit as from now on, to avoid getting banned just the same way his friend was banned.

[Dunamisx]

Hello everyone,
I've been betting on Rollbit for about two months, just yesterday a friend of mine was banned after completing KYC and the reason they gave him was that he was an Italian user.
Without completing the KYC, is it possible to operate on Rollbit also for Italian users?
I ask for help because I don't want to find myself with blocked funds just for being Italian

Rollbit Razer could you help me?

You know he problem that most of us gave, we will know that something is not right but yet we will also want to give a try to see what might be the consequences of doing the wrong thing, he was banned, yet you're asking if another person from the same region could register and not get banned, of being a citizen of italy is what caused the ban, then don't try yours, if it was other reasons, try to Know which in other not to fall on the same reason and get penalized too.

[LEVSKI7]

https://www.blenheim.nl/en/blog/online-casinos-must-repay-gamblers-what-does-this-mean-for-the-gambling-industry/
Advice from a lawyer if you have lost money on an illegal online gambling website

[mak013]

... There are lots of casinos without such restrictions with high quality gambling.

This is not true! Don't give fake claims/suggestions...

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ANY site that is not listed in AAMS/hence has not a license cannot be used by Italians on Italy territory.
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I would pay "attention if a site accept" Italians players (with KYC) since here in Italy they are completely illegally.

https://www.adm.gov.it/portale/en/monopoli/giochi/gioco_distanza/gioco_dist_concessionari
above, full list of gambling site authorized in Italy.

What is "not true"? You just repeated my words and added some proves. There are sites without restrictions? Yes. May be you don`t like some other my words, or it is not enough casinos without restrictions to be called "lots of", or the gambling on other sites is "low quality"?
It was what i`m talking about and you tell the same.

[bitbollo]

@mak013
Did you really know gambling sites that accept Italians "legally" and are not registered in AAMS portal hence they are not authorized in Italy? 🤨

Ok. I confirm this is not true. Can you provide proofs of what you are saying?
Even silence Is an answer....

[Jawhead999]

Instead of confirming either Rollbit gives the @OP' money or the @OP accusation was wrong, the @OP decided to delete the title and the post without giving any words. So what does this mean? is @OP scared to get caught because he gamble in illegal site.

I've report the topic to be locked.