Used cars and real estate market very volatile and a lot people will fomo in

[Parklane777]

Everybody waiting for fed rate cut like new hope.
A lot people will fomo in to used cars and real estate market.
But the estimated real bull market for real estate and cars will be about 2027-2028.
Until then will be very volatile market (long. wicks short wicks) a lot real estate investors and car dealers will be liqutated out of business.
If real estate will be on chart then we are at "deadcat bounce" now

Now it's very difficult to understood because assets will not move correlated together.
We gona see one of the biggest shake out + liqutation of capital.
Cars specially used cars + real estate+bond market+sp500 Will be very volatile.
Now many people taking those assets for granted they are confident specially real estate and that's how many will lose money because all the guards are down.

Don't take my words as truth If you can't connect the same dots together in your own mind.

[Manny@11111]

Totally agree with your assertion because real estate and housing in 2023 was a bumpy and rough one as purchasing power across the globe kept decreasing year on year same happened with used cars in 2023 as people prefer to maintain what they have now than buying another, either new or used, and 2024 won't be any different as most countries are going through recession that is difficult to curb

[BIT-BENDER]

Totally agree with your assertion because real estate and housing in 2023 was a bumpy and rough one as purchasing power across the globe kept decreasing year on year same happened with used cars in 2023 as people prefer to maintain what they have now than buying another, either new or used, and 2024 won't be any different as most countries are going through recession that is difficult to curb

You can not generalise those types of market, I am not familiar with the used cars market but I am a bit familiar with the real estate market and one thing is that you don't generalise the real estate market.
There are factors that affects the value or situation of real estate market and the biggest factor is it's location if it's a sorted after location the value of it is expected to grow, but other factors like the condition, previous owners etc can also play part in the value.

[Casdinyard]

Used cars? Really?

Secondhand properties I can understand and get behind,but I don’t think there’s a market for used cars now unless we’re talking about luxury cars or muscle cars for that matter, and even then we can’t guarantee that since the car industry depreciates in value every year more drastically than the smartphone world.

As a businessman I get the idea behind setting up a used-car dealership. But as a customer or perhaps a flipper? You’ll have better chances flipping NFTs and cryptocurrencies cause no one’s gonna buy your 80k mileage Toyotafor higher than its set , even if there’s historical relevance to it. No one’s gonna buy the car that Michael Jackson used to go to grocery once or whatever the fuck they sell items in the auction for nowadays.

[348Judah]

From the way i see it, used cars and real estate are not as that volatile, their prices are not to be regarded as being volatile because for something to be rated in this category, it's price must rise and fall and do this often or under a continuous process, most people into these category kind of business are the type that make currency exchanges in running the businesses, but if it's something that you make use of the USD without making conversions to local currencies to run your business, it may not be as that volatile like the foreign exchanges.

[Fortify]

Everybody waiting for fed rate cut like new hope.
A lot people will fomo in to used cars and real estate market.
But the estimated real bull market for real estate and cars will be about 2027-2028.
Until then will be very volatile market (long. wicks short wicks) a lot real estate investors and car dealers will be liqutated out of business.
If real estate will be on chart then we are at "deadcat bounce" now

Now it's very difficult to understood because assets will not move correlated together.
We gona see one of the biggest shake out + liqutation of capital.
Cars specially used cars + real estate+bond market+sp500 Will be very volatile.
Now many people taking those assets for granted they are confident specially real estate and that's how many will lose money because all the guards are down.

Don't take my words as truth If you can't connect the same dots together in your own mind.

Fomo into used cars and real estate? What does that even mean, as it makes zero sense? People are always buying used cars, year after year, decade after decade, it's not some new sort of trend or idea you've discovered - nor is it in any way likely to happen in correlation with a rate cut. Real estate is the same, there will be more people buying when rates come down but you don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure that out, it's harder for people to borrow money when rates are high as there are more affordability checks and difficulties borrowing. Deadcat bounce is not relevant to this situation, nor have you understood what it means based on the rest of the things you've said, better to stay away from terminology when you don't know what it means.

[boyptc]

Isn't it that the real estate market is still in the bubble even if we've gone through the pandemic for which will make the value of the houses down due to everyone had difficulties with their living when it has started?

I guess things are totally back to the normal but with these high prices of real estates. It's just going to be a matter of time when most people will have the same thought of not buying these expensive real estate that has been priced in by the realtors.

In most places, there should be a suggested pricing in based on the area of it but because of realtors, agents + taxes, sellers are putting a lot of margin from it that's crazy to consider.

[yhiaali3]

Yes, this is a fact. Since the car and real estate market is mainly linked to the economy, it is naturally affected by economic factors such as recession and inflation, so it is very natural for it to be volatile.

But since paper currency constantly loses its value, it would be a good idea to buy a property or a car to maintain the value of your money. This is better than keeping your money as paper money or keeping it in banks.

For me, of course, the best thing is to buy Bitcoin or gold. Whether it is for the purpose of investment or long-term reserve storage, gold and Bitcoin will be my preferred choice in the long term.

[Yamane_Keto]

If the used car market reacts to interest rate variables, it should flourish when interest rates are high, as people will tend to buy used cars instead of paying $30,000+ for a new car, so it is illogical for it to react positively to interest rates.
Real estate is linked to mortgages and interest rates, and we will see positive movement starting in 2025 if the current conditions continue.

[YUriy1991]

Until then will be very volatile market (long. wicks short wicks) a lot real estate investors and car dealers will be liqutated out of business.
If real estate will be on chart then we are at "deadcat bounce" now

If we try to make a connection with mortgages and interest rates it might get complicated and it will only happen at that point, but look at consumer expectations and I don't think car dealers will go out of business, because people are looking more at the used car market because people's ability to buy new ones is currently limited, especially as consumers tend to choose economical options where they don't spend more money to buy a new car.

[Accardo]

Don't know much about the real estate business, but would say that it's having some growth slow down since the inflation started. People are working hard on maintaining their wealth and properties and many buildings put out for sale are not getting better deals promising to pay a high amount. I won't be surprised to know that they're having low sales across the world. But one good aspect of real estate is that this is the right time to buy so that when the bullish run begins those who have properties can sell and earn huge profits. So if people fomo on real estate do you mean missing out on buying at a low price? However, the dealers in the real estate business understand how the market works and know how to handle any situation associated with the risk. They can wait till it gets bullish and then begin to sell, I don't think they'll be running out of business. The problem would be not making high profits like during the bull time.

As for the car business, the value doesn't have any chance of being profitable. As the rate of impounded cars are being sold for cheap prices to citizens, the governments are making banks off seized cars. Many people prefer going for the impounded cars due to the lesser rate in price. Hence affecting the growth of the car business. Secondhand cars thrive as well, hardly would you see a buyer going for new cars. The price of a new car is very high, and when the owner wants to sell, he'd get a low-price proposal. Comparing both markets, real estate would survive any market crash that would happen and easily bounce back to making huge profits. As the longer the property stays the higher the price, in most cases. But the car business keeps depreciating every day, and it's not worth venturing into during a time like this, so the term "Fomo", doesn't fit into the car business. There'll be nothing to miss out on whether the market price is low, or car prices don't increase instead they depreciate.

[btc78]

used cars in 2023 as people prefer to maintain what they have now than buying another, either new or used, and 2024 won't be any different as most countries are going through recession that is difficult to curb

because of the pandemic there was a decrease of buyers in cars since a lot of people lost their jobs or had experienced financial challenges now because of this, most car companies opted to supply less newly made cars which of course resulted to a lesser supply but a higher price after we’ve come back to normal and people are once again buying cars, these newly made cars are only now slightly used so of course they’re not going to sell when they’ve only used it for a short amount of time and even if they sell it, they’re going to sell it for a high price because of its condition so if you’re an interested buyer of second hand cars this is bad news for you because for you to buy a cheap used car, you’re gonna have to buy a much older model made pre-pandemic

[jrrsparkles]

Used cars? Really?

Secondhand properties I can understand and get behind,but I don’t think there’s a market for used cars now unless we’re talking about luxury cars or muscle cars for that matter, and even then we can’t guarantee that since the car industry depreciates in value every year more drastically than the smartphone world.

A practical used car dealership is one of a successful business for decades but it needs experience, someone with zero knowledge starts a dealership just because they have money then they will fail but one who has at least 5 years of experience in the field can buy a car for 5K and do some detailing work and sell it for 10K in less than a week.

[poodle63]

Used cars? Really?

Secondhand properties I can understand and get behind,but I don’t think there’s a market for used cars now unless we’re talking about luxury cars or muscle cars for that matter, and even then we can’t guarantee that since the car industry depreciates in value every year more drastically than the smartphone world.

A practical used car dealership is one of a successful business for decades but it needs experience, someone with zero knowledge starts a dealership just because they have money then they will fail but one who has at least 5 years of experience in the field can buy a car for 5K and do some detailing work and sell it for 10K in less than a week.

so much underestimation for used car market by the people but its actually quite profitable market, usually these used car dealer got their used car from people that don't bother selling their car and the complicated process by their own and just brought their car to these dealership and give very cheap prices. usually it just needs some detailing as you stated and we are already talking about whooping 20% profit from initial capital if im not being parabolic but thats the truth, the market for used car are quite good market for now not too saturated either its just matter of finding a good secondhand car that are having super cheap prices and we are already talking about profit but yes the cars need to be sold within short amount of time definitely not more than half a year for it to retain value but regardless if we got the car at much cheaper price we still have many rooms for negotiation.
overall used cars market are just as good if not better than real estate market tbh.

[jrrsparkles]

overall used cars market are just as good if not better than real estate market tbh.

The used car market is business but real estate is for investment so I don't know why both came into comparison in the first place. Real estate is still profitable and it highly depends on the city we are talking but the future is highly uncertain and with some of the revolutionary ideas there won't be any need for people to huddle up in the city, they can do whatever they do at any place if there is an internet connection.

[johnsaributua]

For me between the used car market and real estate is a price that not everyone knows, I think the market for these two types of assets from between sellers and buyers, as well as the location and conditions affect the fluctuation of the item even though it may be of equal or greater value. Indeed, it may be more affordable than half or a quarter of the price than new but with no interest rates, the price tends to be even greater and may only differ by a few % from the price of the asset, also falls into the category of hobbies and collections because not everyone likes it apart from its function, meaning that some people prefer to store in other assets that are highly liquid. Real estate is better and people think it has a high selling value, but it could also be because the inflation eroded factor also affects the selling and buying value even though it is the same, only the nominal difference when you first buy it.

Quite a lot of people are in this business, it's not even a new business, but if the person is a buyer and is only consumptive for themselves, of course they will feel what the buyer feels.

I prefer to hold in usdt crypto because it can DCA retain value and sell faster than other investment securities.

[slapper]

Simply put, markets are changing, and your analysis is accurate. Do not oversimplify. A fed rate cut might impact market liquidity and investor feelings, not simply hope. People are eyeing secondhand automobiles and real estate like golden goose, but it's a high-risk endeavor with uncertain rules. Your timescale for a real estate and car bull market may be too optimistic. Due to global economic uncertainty and changing consumer behavior, market dynamics are more complex than ever.

Next, a "deadcat bounce" in real estate is good but controversial. It signals a short turnaround, but it could be the start of a longer downturn. Overconfidence may blindside people, especially in real estate. But let's not ignore smart investors who are positioned themselves for the long term. These players know that diversifying assets and techniques is vital to survival. Your predicted shakeout and liquidation will happen, but it's not the conclusion. A filter separates wheat from chaff. The smart investor sees turbulence as an opportunity. Cash flow rules in this disorder.

[Fiatless]

You can not generalise those types of market, I am not familiar with the used cars market but I am a bit familiar with the real estate market and one thing is that you don't generalise the real estate market.
There are factors that affects the value or situation of real estate market and the biggest factor is it's location if it's a sorted after location the value of it is expected to grow, but other factors like the condition, previous owners etc can also play part in the value.

I know that the global market is interconnected but some sector of the economy has relative experience based on different country. The Chinese real estate market is in a mess because of bad debt and constant population decline. In my country, the real estate market is flourishing especially in cities. The real estate sector is experiencing this boast because of increasing population and rural-urban migration.

The used car market is also a prosperous sector in my country because the majority of the population of my country depends on used cars. Due to the low standard of living most people cannot afford brand-new cars. So investing in the used car business is not a bad idea for people who have experience in the business. So I accept the fact that we cannot generalise about these two sectors because every country has different experiences.

I prefer to hold in usdt crypto because it can DCA retain value and sell faster than other investment securities.

Is it advisable to hold a centralised coin for a long time? It would have been better to keep Bitcoin for a long time because it is decentralized which makes it more secure.  

[icalical]

Cars specially used cars + real estate+bond market+sp500 Will be very volatile.

I don't understand why you put Cars in this list together with real estate and bond market. The other two are investment but Car is not, Car could be a used as a productive tool, but a certain thing is that Car is liability. You need to spend more money on your car for gas and maintenance. And most of the time if you own a generic car, the price will keep declining.

While real-estate and bond is an investment, those two can gain value.

[0t3p0t]

Real estate investment is still profitable here in my place that is why it is my second choice of investment aside from Bitcoin and precious metals. I personally don't like cars because of the fact that it is undoubtedly a liability.