Local Base Or International Based Online Casino

[Juse14]

Well, I gamble only with crypto... I don't even think about playing in local casinos, even thou they have their online versions now and offer some nice promotions. Here in Serbia, we don't have some "special & unique" games like cockfighting, but even if there were something similar I would never bet on animal fights, that's not my taste.

I will stick to crypto gambling and classical games, without any kind of victims. I never understood people who bet on animal fights and races, why would anyone do that when there are many games around that don't hurt anyone, especially some helpless animals?

But if we talk about traditional betting such as cockfighting, sheepfighting, dog racing, horse racing and the like. These are betting activities that have existed and developed for a long time. So it has become entrenched and cultural in some countries. Indeed, if we talk about "animal abuse" most types of gambling involve animal abuse. And when these activities are restricted and banned, those who favor this type of betting often assume that this is part of their customs and culture. And if it is banned or restricted by the government, then the government has gone against the customs and traditions that exist in their area.

And I agree that we don't bet in this type of gambling, because the more people who bet there, then this activity will continue.

[TravelMug]

Been playing locally though in the last 5 months or so, even our beloved apps, like coins.ph and Gcash or even Paymaya is somewhat connected to online gambling already. So yeah if this is already on the roll-out, (haven't heard of it, but obviously it was Atong Ang (AA) idea again) so it might be good that I will try it and see out it goes. There's a lot of games already, like street games like in the perya, color games and others that have been developed. And with that I won't be surprised if the Philippines will again have this e-sabong as it is really well known in our country just like what the OP describes. So regardless if it is local or international based then I will go with it. 

[chaser15]

Currently, I'm mostly using the service of a local online casino since funding my account there is just one click away and they are accepting almost all payment methods here in our country. When using a crypto-gambling site, I need first to fund my account on Binance and then from there, the deposit to the said crypto-gambling site.

In terms of gaming and experience, not that much difference. It's just that it's more convenient to top-up my account on a local gambling site.

These local online gambling sites in our country also finally give us the chance to play Pragmatic Play games which most international-based online gambling sites or crypto-gambling sites don't allow us to play games at that provider since a long time ago.

[Yatsan]

Currently, I'm mostly using the service of a local online casino since funding my account there is just one click away and they are accepting almost all payment methods here in our country. When using a crypto-gambling site, I need first to fund my account on Binance and then from there, the deposit to the said crypto-gambling site.

In terms of gaming and experience, not that much difference. It's just that it's more convenient to top-up my account on a local gambling site.

These local online gambling sites in our country also finally give us the chance to play Pragmatic Play games which most international-based online gambling sites or crypto-gambling sites don't allow us to play games at that provider since a long time ago.

Difference is mode of payment. If you are a crypto enthusiast, then local gambling providers won't be an option. Fiat is most of the time, the medium in every transaction and that means taxes, and lack of anonymity with the activity. However if they would be able to make a way to adopt this technology then that would be better. With local and international gambling providers, the first distinction is accessibility; atleast with local providers you won't have that much of a problem with it, and that is included with better gambling experience.

[coin-investor]

Been playing locally though in the last 5 months or so, even our beloved apps, like coins.ph and Gcash or even Paymaya is somewhat connected to online gambling already. So yeah if this is already on the roll-out, (haven't heard of it, but obviously it was Atong Ang (AA) idea again) so it might be good that I will try it and see out it goes. There's a lot of games already, like street games like in the perya, color games and others that have been developed. And with that I won't be surprised if the Philippines will again have this e-sabong as it is really well known in our country just like what the OP describes. So regardless if it is local or international based then I will go with it. 

When online cock fighting was in its heyday I remember one popular money remittance accepting top up to online cockfighting, this was possible because the operator Mr. Atong Ang has a wide connection he has a connection to telecommunication companies and other big businesses so it was easy for him to roll up his project, all he needs is an idea involve his partners and logistics and voila he can easily make millions.
If you're a gambling operator and you've been operating for many years in one country you will have a lot of communications and backing from authorities so I expect this new idea to be another hit in the country and this could spell disaster for those chronic gamblers or those who once patronage online cockfighting because there's a new game that will feed their addiction.

[swogerino]

I think it depends really as if the casino that is local to you is really successful there is no reason as to why not to play there and try it.I never had the chance to have such a successful casino where I live as in here people are greedy they only want to profit themselves and surely this is not the way to go forward.Therefore I strongly suggest to anyone to give a try to a local casino that has made a name for themselves and if not then there is always the safest option which is to play in an International well established casino and that is the best you can do.That is what I do intensively,I keep playing only in my favorite online casino and so far everything runs smoothly.

[danherbias07]

Still a national base. Although it will be easy to bet because it's in our currency, I don't like the idea that it's based locally and I have lesser trust when it's from us. History trauma I guess.
Also, I don't trust how the system will work. If they do see all the bets that are listed then there's a chance it will be manipulated where there's lesser money on one color. Well, it's part of gambling but I don't want to see it becoming more obvious. At least in international gambling sites, they still do not make it obvious and sometimes they do let their patrons win the game.
We have also seen how many people in the online sabong lose their money and this is the same owner of that gambling method. Are we going to expect the same thing could happen to us? Yes, I do believe it's just the same. From being a car owner to a bicycle owner. 

[pawel7777]

Thanks for sharing the story OP. I've never heard of e-sabong until now. I've done some reading on this and I'm shocked at how big it has become and how big the negative impact it had on the entire country.
For those interested, more details here: https://www.casino.org/blog/esabong-rise-and-fall/

As for the local or international question - it doesn't make much difference as long as both operate legally in your jurisdiction. But I prefer local ones, as it would be easier to take a legal action if something went wrong and you got mistreated by a casino.

[Oasisman]

Well, If a country does not prohibit any gambling activities, then I guess local online casino is a much better option as long they are registered and has license to operate to make sure your money is safe with their platform.
International online casino may require extra step to process a local currency converted into dollar, especially if one is not using bitcoin or any crypto. So, in this area, local online casino always have the edge.
Customer service with your own locality may be more convenient than an international customer service representative.
This new online gambling game maybe the next big thing in the PH I guess.

[angrybirdy]

Two years ago e-sabong or online cock fighting has become so popular in our country that many people who do not play online learned how to play online because of this game after our government shut down this online betting a new local online betting game will soon launch that is expected to make millions of profits from the same creator of online cockfighting and this is called Apple white or Apple Red a spin-off from the popular color game or slots

The rules are simple: participants select either a red or white apple, and the outcome is determined by three spinning wheels. A P100 bet can result in a P280 win if all three spinners land on the same color.

Similar to E-Sabong, players are faced with only two choices, and matches unfold every five minutes, running continuously for 24 hours, with a brief one-hour break. However, in contrast to E-Sabong, every match concludes with a clear winner, with no draws, and importantly, no fighting cocks are harmed

From cockfights to cocktails

This local online game will soon become so popular that local gamblers who play on international online casinos will prefer to play here because it is easy to fund the app and there are physical betting stations too like karaoke bars and gaming hubs.

Do you have similar games in your country and if there are popular local online games what will you prefer local or international-based

Definitely you're one of my kababayan! Honestly I'm very familiar about E-Sabong but this new gambling app called Apple white? I haven't heard it yet, or I'm just so busy in other stuffs that's why I am not updated to this latest Gambling application. If this app is easy to play, I think this will become a trend and friendly user to some gamblers. If you were asking me, I prefer to play local gambling because It's easy to access especially when it comes to cash in and withdrawal payment method, Also my goal is to play and just give it a try and I have no intention to place large bet amount on it.

[Latviand]

Dude, fruit games been a staple of illegal gambling in the country for a really long time, it's as popular as the arcade horse racing and has been the subjects of many police raids because they're illegal. That game's not going to last long because either the authorities are gathering more evidences or the protector of this operation isn't going to be happy with just a small paycheck monthly. When it comes to this kind of stuff, I'd just go for international based because it's likely to be a problem for authorities and the games there are more fun compared to this games which I've played already when I was younger.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Well, when it comes to local and international casinos, it's really complicated choosing which to do my gambling on more frequently, owning to the fact that today, in my country, we now have local casinos that now allow cryptocurrency deposit and withdrawals, but in the past, local casinos only had facility for local currency deposits and withdrawals, there were no other currencies supported, and I myself being into crypto and making most of my money in crypto, I like to gamble using crypto instead of going through the stress of converting it to local currency first.

So, aside this fact that I've stated above, I will normally prefer international casinos, as they probably offer far more games than a local Casino world, and on international casinos, one may gamble, win and withdraw without paying taxes, but on local casinos, the tax will be withdrawn from your winning amount by the casino themselves.

Overall, always better to play on international casinos, though this largely depends on country where one lives, local casinos may offer easier and faster deposit and withdrawal of fiat, but the gambler is compelled to pay taxes.

[Eternad]

Dude, fruit games been a staple of illegal gambling in the country for a really long time, it's as popular as the arcade horse racing and has been the subjects of many police raids because they're illegal. That game's not going to last long because either the authorities are gathering more evidences or the protector of this operation isn't going to be happy with just a small paycheck monthly. When it comes to this kind of stuff, I'd just go for international based because it's likely to be a problem for authorities and the games there are more fun compared to this games which I've played already when I was younger.

The game itself is not illegal but rather operating without a license is what makes it illegal. To be clear, any games is illegal once you offer it to the public without any license to operate.

On this case, the game will have a license before they will offer to the public. Atong Ang is one of the richest person in the Philippines the dominates e-gaming industry. He is the father of gambling here which means he will acquire license before he introduces the game to the public just like his e-sabong that later got licensed cancelled due to the majority request from affected users family. This game will be a major success in Philippines because there’s a lot of streamers here that can promote it and the game itself is already popular even before this game introduction on the article.

[uneng]

Dude, fruit games been a staple of illegal gambling in the country for a really long time, it's as popular as the arcade horse racing and has been the subjects of many police raids because they're illegal. That game's not going to last long because either the authorities are gathering more evidences or the protector of this operation isn't going to be happy with just a small paycheck monthly. When it comes to this kind of stuff, I'd just go for international based because it's likely to be a problem for authorities and the games there are more fun compared to this games which I've played already when I was younger.

Why are these fruit games illegal? They seem inoffensive compared to cockfighting, which besides being illegal was the reason why they migrated to fruits game. To not be able to play these games in national territory doesn't mean people are going to stop gambling. Instead, they will just move themselves to online international platforms dealing with cryptocurrencies, so the local authorities don't have any control and direct surveillance over them.

This way, governments won't stop any gambling practice in their country, with the additional fact they won't be gathering any income from taxes from this activity as well, since gamblers will be playing at international platforms, consequently moving their funds to foreigner countries, including the taxes paid by casinos to operate in the respective regions where they are registered.

It's understandable to ban and censor gambling practices which involve mistreatment of living beings, but to ban fruits game seem pointless. If the icons weren't fruits, but another elements like flowers or vehicles, would the game be banned as well?

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

From your poll, my answer is "both." There are some local games like Whot and Dice, which I really love to play, as well as some other international games that I also find very fun to play. So far, I cannot really say there are many games that give more profit, but it depends on the strategy of the gambler and their preference. If you are staking a small amount of money and still able to win, there is a high chance that the moment you increase your wagering amount, you may get burned. The expected result of a game is not just certain. The gambler will win and still lose. I just don't keep on with one game; I like to try new things, especially intriguing and fun ones. Although I am very much in love with sports games and I make more wins from sports, that doesn't mean I don't experience some heavy losses at times too.

[Darker45]

I guess I will consider other factors more besides whether a casino is local or not. As far as cockfighting is concerned, there's no other choice but to support local options because there are no alternatives. But when it comes to online casinos, there are tens of other options. Surely, there are way better casinos that are based abroad than ones which are local-based.

But there was a time I was looking for a sports betting site which offers the local currency aside from crypto. I hardly found any that is more or less reputable until I found one which is international-based.

[tsaroz]

I prefer international bases. The main reason is because my country prohibits gambling. There is a lot of illegal local slot gambling, but according to rumors the site is very devious and I once caught a glimpse of my friend playing local slots and the appearance was less attractive, the choice of games was also limited, apart from that, my friend also experienced a lot of losses there.

When compared with international gambling sites. There are many choices of games, the rules are clear and of course the fun and interface are very different, especially since the site is licensed. And the most important and main thing is that we can use crypto as a means of deposit and withdrawal, unlike local ones which only provide bank transfers.

Yeah internationally based specially on the tax haven jurisdiction operates with bleak regulations and are always a better option than the one in your own, which probably pays a huge fees and tax to your government. Not only there are legal gray zones for you and the site aswell but you also have a huge range of gambling options to choose from. They are not limited by the local jurisdiction.
As the site saves money on taxes and fees, they are able to provide more bonus and other perks to the users. They even seem to have better odds.
You just need to be sure your jurisdiction won't bring you in trouble for using them.

[samcrypto]

Two years ago e-sabong or online cock fighting has become so popular in our country that many people who do not play online learned how to play online because of this game after our government shut down this online betting a new local online betting game will soon launch that is expected to make millions of profits from the same creator of online cockfighting and this is called Apple white or Apple Red a spin-off from the popular color game or slots

This has been the start of online gambling revolution in our country and seriously, many are still in operation today and many are still gambling online. I think many prefer to gamble on a local based casino as it is being regulated by the government but if its about crypto casino, I still prefer to gamble in an international casinos as they are more professional about this and they have bigger capital where you can have peace of mind that you will get your money without being questioned.

[Fundamentals Of]

I don't know how others compare their choices of casinos but for me it seems the international based online casinos are better than what we have in the local. This is the primary reason why I prefer to play at the casinos that I'm with right now. Not to mention that when it comes to crypto casinos there aren't really local based options, so you would really end up with the ones which are mostly based in Curacao and other territories overseas.

[alani123]

For me the only advantage of local based casinos is that you can deposit with local banks without fear of your bank account getting terminated. This is very good for depositing small amounts because sometimes for example it's hard to actually get small deposits though with crypto due to fees at certain times.

But that's also only with licensed casinos, and only even if the country allowes legal gambling. Because to my understanding there exist some majority Muslim countries where governments outright ban all forms of online casino. Good on them I guess.

Probably the case OP mentions about online cock-fighting would not have these advantages though because it's a heavily sanctioned activity that is considered cruel by many so I don't know if that would relevant.

On the other hand, local casinos for me have huge disadvantages. So if you pose the question in more general terms, it's not worth it to play there. Mostly due to low odds, higher house edge and no provably fair games.