FortuneJack Provably fair games are NOT FAIR

[Saint-loup]

Hi,

FJ has provided me with script to verify the "Cyberdice game" which seems to be accurate and provably fair, however there are many other provably fair games on their website that i have still not been provided with scripts to verify any of their fairness. Also all these scripts should be included on the website otherwise players wont be able to verify. For Now the only game out of all provably fair ones that i was able to verify was the cyberdice.

Thank you for the update bro, but is the script available online and they've sent you a link towards it or did they just sent you the script through email? It's surprising to be so unprofessional, why don't they include the script or a link towards it in the game? When we go to the settings of the game there is a "Provably Fair" section but it only shows the client seed, the server seed hash, the nonce and the previous server seed. Could you confirm the hash function for the server seed hash is SHA256 like most provably fair games, btw?

[newblackbetty]

Hi,

FJ has provided me with script to verify the "Cyberdice game" which seems to be accurate and provably fair, however there are many other provably fair games on their website that i have still not been provided with scripts to verify any of their fairness. Also all these scripts should be included on the website otherwise players wont be able to verify. For Now the only game out of all provably fair ones that i was able to verify was the cyberdice.

Thank you for the update bro, but is the script available online and they've sent you a link towards it or did they just sent you the script through email? It's surprising to be so unprofessional, why don't they include the script or a link towards it in the game? When we go to the settings of the game there is a "Provably Fair" section but it only shows the client seed, the server seed hash, the nonce and the previous server seed. Could you confirm the hash function for the server seed hash is SHA256 like most provably fair games, btw?

Hi Saint,

Yes it's SHA256. They just sent me the script through codepen. It is still not officially mentioned anywhere on the website and all the other games are still unverifiable and i haven't got scripts for any of the other games. I was also able to find a bug with Orbital's cyberdice with their server seed and got $150 reward for reporting it (Was hoping it to be a bit more to be honest), once i tried to withdraw it they wouldn't let me do it without going through KYC even though I asked tokash to make an exception because all i was doing was helping them fix a bug and not even gambling on their website. I was denied that and I decided not to go through the whole KYC process for $150. I was definitely Disappointed.

[Saint-loup]

Hi Saint,

Yes it's SHA256. They just sent me the script through codepen. It is still not officially mentioned anywhere on the website and all the other games are still unverifiable and i haven't got scripts for any of the other games. I was also able to find a bug with Orbital's cyberdice with their server seed and got $150 reward for reporting it (Was hoping it to be a bit more to be honest), once i tried to withdraw it they wouldn't let me do it without going through KYC even though I asked tokash to make an exception because all i was doing was helping them fix a bug and not even gambling on their website. I was denied that and I decided not to go through the whole KYC process for $150. I was definitely Disappointed.

To be honest I don't play much there, because I've also been disappointed with their bonuses/promotions and their support unfortunately, the withdrawal threshold (while charging withdrawing fees) which has been even higher than currently IIRC is also not very welcoming. So I'm not surprising by what you are saying. Anyway thanks for this information about the SHA256 hash function, people will at least be able to check if the previous server seed matches with the hash seed given, even if I don't think they will add a checking method not anytime soon, sadly.

[newblackbetty]

Hi Saint,

Yes it's SHA256. They just sent me the script through codepen. It is still not officially mentioned anywhere on the website and all the other games are still unverifiable and i haven't got scripts for any of the other games. I was also able to find a bug with Orbital's cyberdice with their server seed and got $150 reward for reporting it (Was hoping it to be a bit more to be honest), once i tried to withdraw it they wouldn't let me do it without going through KYC even though I asked tokash to make an exception because all i was doing was helping them fix a bug and not even gambling on their website. I was denied that and I decided not to go through the whole KYC process for $150. I was definitely Disappointed.

To be honest I don't play much there, because I've also been disappointed with their bonuses/promotions and their support unfortunately, the withdrawal threshold (while charging withdrawing fees) which has been even higher than currently IIRC is also not very welcoming. So I'm not surprising by what you are saying. Anyway thanks for this information about the SHA256 hash function, people will at least be able to check if the previous server seed matches with the hash seed given, even if I don't think they will add a checking method not anytime soon, sadly.

I noticed there are many bugs in their provably fair games and even some possible big exploits, but i stopped testing and spending my time on their games just because the bounty rewards for helping them fix bugs is so low and even then they aren't letting me withdraw bounty reward unless i provide them full KYC.


My background is testing crypto casinos and crypto exchanges security. So i'm pretty good at this stuff but no point spending my time helping FJ to fix bugs.

[khaled0111]

Yes it's SHA256. They just sent me the script through codepen. It is still not officially mentioned anywhere on the website and all the other games are still unverifiable and i haven't got scripts for any of the other games. I was also able to find a bug with Orbital's cyberdice with their server seed and got $150 reward for reporting it (Was hoping it to be a bit more to be honest), once i tried to withdraw it they wouldn't let me do it without going through KYC even though I asked tokash to make an exception because all i was doing was helping them fix a bug and not even gambling on their website. I was denied that and I decided not to go through the whole KYC process for $150. I was definitely Disappointed.

Thank you for keeping us updated, OP.
Am wondering what's the point of advertising a game as provably fair when you don't provide a tool (be it on the casino itself or on third party website) to verify the results!
Regarding the $150 reward, honestly, I don't see any reason to ask for kyc if you are going to withdraw it without using it to play there!

[newblackbetty]

Yes it's SHA256. They just sent me the script through codepen. It is still not officially mentioned anywhere on the website and all the other games are still unverifiable and i haven't got scripts for any of the other games. I was also able to find a bug with Orbital's cyberdice with their server seed and got $150 reward for reporting it (Was hoping it to be a bit more to be honest), once i tried to withdraw it they wouldn't let me do it without going through KYC even though I asked tokash to make an exception because all i was doing was helping them fix a bug and not even gambling on their website. I was denied that and I decided not to go through the whole KYC process for $150. I was definitely Disappointed.

Thank you for keeping us updated, OP.
Am wondering what's the point of advertising a game as provably fair when you don't provide a tool (be it on the casino itself or on third party website) to verify the results!
Regarding the $150 reward, honestly, I don't see any reason to ask for kyc if you are going to withdraw it without using it to play there!

I completely agree. The Casino should provide a way to verify each provably fair game. Otherwise its pointless to label them provably fair (even if they all are). It's strange I kept asking them to let me cash it out without KYC but they strongly disagreed and told me i had to either KYC to withdraw or play with the $150 on the site.

[holydarkness]

Yes it's SHA256. They just sent me the script through codepen. It is still not officially mentioned anywhere on the website and all the other games are still unverifiable and i haven't got scripts for any of the other games. I was also able to find a bug with Orbital's cyberdice with their server seed and got $150 reward for reporting it (Was hoping it to be a bit more to be honest), once i tried to withdraw it they wouldn't let me do it without going through KYC even though I asked tokash to make an exception because all i was doing was helping them fix a bug and not even gambling on their website. I was denied that and I decided not to go through the whole KYC process for $150. I was definitely Disappointed.

Thank you for keeping us updated, OP.
Am wondering what's the point of advertising a game as provably fair when you don't provide a tool (be it on the casino itself or on third party website) to verify the results!
Regarding the $150 reward, honestly, I don't see any reason to ask for kyc if you are going to withdraw it without using it to play there!

I completely agree. The Casino should provide a way to verify each provably fair game. Otherwise its pointless to label them provably fair (even if they all are). It's strange I kept asking them to let me cash it out without KYC but they strongly disagreed and told me i had to either KYC to withdraw or play with the $150 on the site.

Were they previously provable? Like, only recently orbital's game were not verifiable, perhaps because they update their game's script or something that messed up their previous PF script?

[newblackbetty]

Yes it's SHA256. They just sent me the script through codepen. It is still not officially mentioned anywhere on the website and all the other games are still unverifiable and i haven't got scripts for any of the other games. I was also able to find a bug with Orbital's cyberdice with their server seed and got $150 reward for reporting it (Was hoping it to be a bit more to be honest), once i tried to withdraw it they wouldn't let me do it without going through KYC even though I asked tokash to make an exception because all i was doing was helping them fix a bug and not even gambling on their website. I was denied that and I decided not to go through the whole KYC process for $150. I was definitely Disappointed.

Thank you for keeping us updated, OP.
Am wondering what's the point of advertising a game as provably fair when you don't provide a tool (be it on the casino itself or on third party website) to verify the results!
Regarding the $150 reward, honestly, I don't see any reason to ask for kyc if you are going to withdraw it without using it to play there!

I completely agree. The Casino should provide a way to verify each provably fair game. Otherwise its pointless to label them provably fair (even if they all are). It's strange I kept asking them to let me cash it out without KYC but they strongly disagreed and told me i had to either KYC to withdraw or play with the $150 on the site.

Were they previously provable? Like, only recently orbital's game were not verifiable, perhaps because they update their game's script or something that messed up their previous PF script?

Who knows. Hard to tell if game script wasn't changed once i requested them to provide provably fair script.

[j6o74]

Spribe aviator is doing the same

[FortuneJack]

Hello Everyone,


Firstly, a sincere thank you to everyone for your active involvement, valuable feedback, and the time you've invested.


I'm glad to announce that verifiers have been successfully integrated into every PF game. You can now easily verify the fairness of each game by accessing the codepen.io link provided in the game settings.


We kindly request you to test it and share your feedback with us. Your insights are greatly appreciated and are of significant importance to the FortuneJack Team.


Cheers,


tokash | Community Team Lead

[holydarkness]

Hello Everyone,


Firstly, a sincere thank you to everyone for your active involvement, valuable feedback, and the time you've invested.


I'm glad to announce that verifiers have been successfully integrated into every PF game. You can now easily verify the fairness of each game by accessing the codepen.io link provided in the game settings.


We kindly request you to test it and share your feedback with us. Your insights are greatly appreciated and are of significant importance to the FortuneJack Team.


Cheers,


tokash | Community Team Lead

I appreciate the effort to keep the forum updated about this and promptly push Orbital to provide their PF script once asked. It shows sign of professionalism.

OP, can you help us confirm if this issue with Orbital's game is solved and their game can now be verified? I'll mark the case as resolved with your confirmation

[newblackbetty]

Hello Everyone,


Firstly, a sincere thank you to everyone for your active involvement, valuable feedback, and the time you've invested.


I'm glad to announce that verifiers have been successfully integrated into every PF game. You can now easily verify the fairness of each game by accessing the codepen.io link provided in the game settings.


We kindly request you to test it and share your feedback with us. Your insights are greatly appreciated and are of significant importance to the FortuneJack Team.


Cheers,


tokash | Community Team Lead

I see that verification has been added to all of the games. I will be testing them out tomorrow.


However, All my past bets on all of the games have been deleted/cleared. Unable to verify any of my past games. Kinda strange huh? 


https://imgur.com/a/fgsIWQ8

[holydarkness]

Hello Everyone,


Firstly, a sincere thank you to everyone for your active involvement, valuable feedback, and the time you've invested.


I'm glad to announce that verifiers have been successfully integrated into every PF game. You can now easily verify the fairness of each game by accessing the codepen.io link provided in the game settings.


We kindly request you to test it and share your feedback with us. Your insights are greatly appreciated and are of significant importance to the FortuneJack Team.


Cheers,


tokash | Community Team Lead

I see that verification has been added to all of the games. I will be testing them out tomorrow.


However, All my past bets on all of the games have been deleted/cleared. Unable to verify any of my past games. Kinda strange huh? 


https://imgur.com/a/fgsIWQ8

Is it just the ones from Orbital's bet or every single past bets on FJ, from every game provider, are not retrievable? Perhaps it's a temporary issue when they tried to add the new script of PF into their system.

[PaperWallet]

Yes it's SHA256. They just sent me the script through codepen. It is still not officially mentioned anywhere on the website and all the other games are still unverifiable and i haven't got scripts for any of the other games. I was also able to find a bug with Orbital's cyberdice with their server seed and got $150 reward for reporting it (Was hoping it to be a bit more to be honest), once i tried to withdraw it they wouldn't let me do it without going through KYC even though I asked tokash to make an exception because all i was doing was helping them fix a bug and not even gambling on their website. I was denied that and I decided not to go through the whole KYC process for $150. I was definitely Disappointed.

Thank you for keeping us updated, OP.
Am wondering what's the point of advertising a game as provably fair when you don't provide a tool (be it on the casino itself or on third party website) to verify the results!
Regarding the $150 reward, honestly, I don't see any reason to ask for kyc if you are going to withdraw it without using it to play there!

I completely agree. The Casino should provide a way to verify each provably fair game. Otherwise its pointless to label them provably fair (even if they all are). It's strange I kept asking them to let me cash it out without KYC but they strongly disagreed and told me i had to either KYC to withdraw or play with the $150 on the site.

You are dealing with some of nastiest people out there. I would rather not engage in anything with those involved with FortuneJack. Go check this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5449674.0

And the thread of my scam accusation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5368279.msg58302543#msg58302543
The photos are in the old format so no longer available, I don't know when I'll have time to put them back, but all bets description is in there.

They've always at some point or another, deleted bet history for some players. I happened to catch them with their hand in my pocket. I always used to call their supposedly "provably fair games", the "probably fair games".